Should Music Be Allowed on the Golf Course?

[rzitup]

23 hours ago, ThaiGolfer2 said:

Forgive me for pointing this out, but music on the course seems to be an American thing! in the other countries I have played regular golf in, it does not happen (music on the course).

 

UK - never heard 

UAE (Dubai) - never

Malaysia - never

Thailand - never

Singapore - never

 

So in a word. No.

 

 

I lived in southern Spain for 7 years, played music on the course every round.  

[Malvern]

6 minutes ago, rzitup said:

 

I lived in southern Spain for 7 years, played music on the course every round.  

Are you American? If so it might just prove the fella's point.

[bekgolf]

11 minutes ago, Malvern said:

Are you American? If so it might just prove the fella's point.

 

He's a fisherman, right now there is a chartreuse spinner bait in the water and everyone wants to get it.

 

Don't feed the trolls and they go away.

[st1800e]

32 minutes ago, rzitup said:

 

I lived in southern Spain for 7 years, played music on the course every round.  

I live in Canada, I’ve never played music on the course.  

[sui generis]

27 minutes ago, st1800e said:

I live in Canada, I’ve never played music on the course.  

 

And, you probably don't wear your cap backwards and run around with your shirt tail hanging out. 😉

[2bGood]

3 hours ago, st1800e said:

I live in Canada, I’ve never played music on the course.  

The music thing is starting to infect Canada. Not super common yet, but a few yahoos doing it. 

Edited September 12, 2023 by 2bGood

[st1800e]

12 minutes ago, 2bGood said:

The music thing is starting to infect Canada. Not supper common yet, but a few yahoos doing it. 

Oh yes I’ve heard it, I just don’t play it.   

[david.c.w]

 

Sums up this thread.

Edited September 12, 2023 by david.c.w

[charli]

Music doesn’t bother me at all. But there are some rules 

 

1) no country 

2) I don’t want to feel like I’m at a concert 

[golfortennis]

On 9/12/2023 at 4:53 PM, charli said:

Music doesn’t bother me at all. But there are some rules 

 

1) no country 

2) I don’t want to feel like I’m at a concert 

 

But see, if I want to play opera, is that ok?   

[Dpavs]

11 hours ago, golfortennis said:

 

But see, if I want to play opera, is that ok?   

As long as you are playing at night... then... well .... yes of course it is.

 

[charli]

11 hours ago, golfortennis said:

 

But see, if I want to play opera, is that ok?   

Sure, 100% fine. Read the rules 

[mvvraz]

Hate music of any kind on the course. It's the one place I go to just have some peace and quiet.

 

You're literally in the middle of nature, just enjoy the sound of that. Also feels impossible to focus on a shot if I don't have the sound of impact to kind of guide me 

[rzitup]

5 hours ago, mvvraz said:

Hate music of any kind on the course. It's the one place I go to just have some peace and quiet.

 

You're literally in the middle of nature, just enjoy the sound of that. Also feels impossible to focus on a shot if I don't have the sound of impact to kind of guide me 

 

Some people go to the park, or hiking or camping to "enjoy the sound of nature".  And some people go to the park to spend time with friends and family and play some music.  If I go camping to enjoy myself, and play some music, and someone comes walking by, hears my music and tells me to turn it off, do you think I should have to?

 

Golf is an outdoor activity, and for some based around friends and being social.  Music is a part of that (for some).  Playing music at respectable volumes is allowed and really shouldnt even be a discussion.  

[sui generis]

6 hours ago, rzitup said:

 

Some people go to the park, or hiking or camping to "enjoy the sound of nature".  And some people go to the park to spend time with friends and family and play some music.  If I go camping to enjoy myself, and play some music, and someone comes walking by, hears my music and tells me to turn it off, do you think I should have to?

 

Golf is an outdoor activity, and for some based around friends and being social.  Music is a part of that (for some).  Playing music at respectable volumes is allowed and really shouldnt even be a discussion.  

 

Don't double down on your obnoxious behaviour. Nobody here's buying it. 🙄

[jacot23]

6 hours ago, rzitup said:

 

  Playing music at respectable volumes is allowed and really shouldnt even be a discussion.  

And therein lies the problem. Your definition of respectable doesn’t match mine (and a lot of others).

 

If I can hear it, it’s not respectable. 

[st1800e]

Round and round this goes, like the weather......

[nsxguy]

15 hours ago, jacot23 said:

And therein lies the problem. Your definition of respectable doesn’t match mine (and a lot of others).

 

If I can hear it, it’s not respectable. 

 

He knows. He just doesn't care.

[rzitup]

16 hours ago, jacot23 said:

And therein lies the problem. Your definition of respectable doesn’t match mine (and a lot of others).

 

If I can hear it, it’s not respectable. 

You are correct, our definitions don't match. 

 

I go to the park and want to play music, someone is going to hear it.  I got to play golf and want to play music, someone is going to hear it.  

It's going to happen, and those at the park looking to "enjoy the sound of nature" also understand that the park is not their privileged playground.  For some reason, many of you think the golf course is your privileged playground.  It's not.

 

[nsxguy]

6 minutes ago, rzitup said:

You are correct, our definitions don't match. 

 

I go to the park and want to play music, someone is going to hear it.  I got to play golf and want to play music, someone is going to hear it.  

It's going to happen, and those at the park looking to "enjoy the sound of nature" also understand that the park is not their privileged playground.  For some reason, many of you think the golf course is your privileged playground.  It's not.

 

 

 

Keep doubling down, eh ?

 

You go to the park and it's (usually) free and others are out there just enjoying nature and goofing around.

 

I pay $40-100 to enjoy (sometimes ) a game that requires various levels of concentration and is played on a "park" set up exclusively for GOLFERS, not people out for a stroll or having a picnic.

 

And then there's also the Rules of Golf you don't care about, but I guess that's another story.

 

Face it my friend. You've dug yourself a hole you can't get out of. Please stop digging. You just have ZERO consideration for others - at least in this particular situation.

[rzitup]

30 minutes ago, nsxguy said:

 

 

Keep doubling down, eh ?

 

You go to the park and it's (usually) free and others are out there just enjoying nature and goofing around.

 

I pay $40-100 to enjoy (sometimes ) a game that requires various levels of concentration and is played on a "park" set up exclusively for GOLFERS, not people out for a stroll or having a picnic.

 

And then there's also the Rules of Golf you don't care about, but I guess that's another story.

 

Face it my friend. You've dug yourself a hole you can't get out of. Please stop digging. You just have ZERO consideration for others - at least in this particular situation.

 

I went camping last weekend, paid $100/night to park my RV and "enjoy the sounds of nature".  Campsite next to me was a younger group, playing games and music.  The nerve of them trying to enjoy themselves.  They paid for their campsite, I should have told them to pipe down!

 

I dug no hole at all, the future will be on my side.  And I will continue to enjoy my music.

[nsxguy]

2 hours ago, rzitup said:

 

I went camping last weekend, paid $100/night to park my RV and "enjoy the sounds of nature".  Campsite next to me was a younger group, playing games and music.  The nerve of them trying to enjoy themselves.  They paid for their campsite, I should have told them to pipe down!

 

I dug no hole at all, the future will be on my side.  And I will continue to enjoy my music.

 

You are either trolling or,,,,,,, trolling.

 

You continue with false equivalences. You should run for office.

 

You know very well that an extremely important part of golf is the ability to concentrate. i.e. as little distraction as possible.

 

Yet you keep bringing up places where music is no issue trying to support your pov.

 

And continue to ignore the ROG as well.

 

But by all means, keep trolling.

[2bGood]

On 9/20/2023 at 11:35 AM, rzitup said:

the future will be on my side.

Sadly I think you are right - at least in the US.

 

Other parts of the world seem to be rejecting the music on the course thing far more, but in the US, Driving a cart, drinking and listing to music are gaining prominence. 

Edited September 22, 2023 by 2bGood

[kiwigolf72]

most courses in New Zealand you cannot have music.

 

[st1800e]

1 hour ago, kiwigolf72 said:

most courses in New Zealand you cannot have music.

 

Great! I’m planning a trip there in January.  

[rzitup]

12 hours ago, 2bGood said:

Sadly I think you are right - at least in the US.

 

Other parts of the world seem to be rejecting the music on the course thing far more, but in the US, Driving a cart, drinking and listing to music are gain prominence. 

 

That's the thing, I don't think it is sad.  While golf here (in California) is booming now (post Covid), it is a game that is dependent on evolving to attract the newer generations.  A sport/hobby cannot sustain off of older generations.  There are other industries that are very similar.  

The good news is, golf does seem to be evolving.  Tiger Woods legacy, Rickie Fowler, Phoenix hole 16 (and the other holes that are following suit), LIV, are all leaning towards those younger generations.  I go to tournaments now and there is music blaring on the driving range.  This is at pretty exclusive country clubs as well as munis.  Marketing is shifting towards brighter colors, no collars, loud and more vocal merchandise.  

Music is an inevitable part of those generations, and will continue to be a part of golf.  If you really do like the peace and serenity of golf, there will likely still be courses that don't allow it or areas where it isn't as prevalent.  But overall Golf will (and needs to) keep up.  Players need to adapt, or be unhappy.  

[sui generis]

51 minutes ago, rzitup said:

But overall Golf will (and needs to) keep up.

 

However, for the time being, bothering others is frowned upon. 

R1.2a All players are expected to play in the spirit of the game by showing consideration to others – for example, by playing at a prompt pace, looking out for the safety of others, and not distracting the play of another player.

 

https://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-clarifications/rules-and-clarifications.html#!ruletype=fr&section=rule&rulenum=1&subrulenum=2

 

 

[rzitup]

1 hour ago, sui generis said:

 

However, for the time being, bothering others is frowned upon. 

R1.2a All players are expected to play in the spirit of the game by showing consideration to others – for example, by playing at a prompt pace, looking out for the safety of others, and not distracting the play of another player.

 

https://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-clarifications/rules-and-clarifications.html#!ruletype=fr&section=rule&rulenum=1&subrulenum=2

 

 

 

Yea, another interpretation we aren't going to agree on.  Faint music from 200 feet away is not a distraction.  The same way yelling fore, and a completely unrelated group hearing it isn't a distraction.  Or driving down the cart path next to another hole isn't a distraction, even though someone might not like it.  

Yelling in someones backswing, intending to distract them is a distraction.  

 

[sui generis]

23 minutes ago, rzitup said:

Faint music from 200 feet away is not a distraction

 

Distraction is in the ear of the beholder. One dude's "rights" may well be another golfer's distraction. 

[rzitup]

10 minutes ago, sui generis said:

 

Distraction is in the ear of the beholder. One dude's "rights" may well be another golfer's distraction. 

 

A golf course is full of distractions.  If someone expects total silence and no distractions they should buy their own golf course.