Traveling to Phoenix.....Some course info for you

[One_Putt_Blunder]

Ahh thank you. Do they post an oversees schedule?

Should be out by end of the month or early Aug.

 

Early Nov you will prob still be cart path only and soggy, most courses should be well recovered especially those that started in early Sept. The late ones (mid Oct start) will still prob be in recovery aka shaggy fairways and greens.

[Rohlio]

First week of November is very squishy on courses that didn't overseed til mid or second half of october. I wouldn't even plan my trip until the overseed schedule is out then I would look at courses that overseeded last week of september first week of october.

 

Pool is a yes.

 

36 can be done but you will be rushing unless you tee of absolutely first thing

[Shilgy]

Hi all,

 

Going to be heading to Phoenix in September for a football game, looking for a round on a Friday morning.

 

First and foremost, what should I expect weather-wise in September? Will starting at 9 be too late? Is there a time that you can start in the afternoon and not die?

 

Second, we're staying relatively close to Talking Stick but have already played those. Looking for something in the average to slightly difficult range since one of the guys we're playing with is a very casual golfer. Don't want to travel too far from there but wouldn't be opposed if it was something we couldn't pass up. (I should note I've also played Troon Monument and TPC Stadium but would do those again if it's the most appropriate choice) Not sure if cost will end up being an issue, so open to all suggestions at this time.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

The best times to golf in the summer is usually to go out at around 6-6:30am, and be off the course by 10:30.

 

Twilight rounds, after 5pm, with the sun setting tend to be tolerable as well despite the temp.

 

Any other time tends to be ghastly.

Where do folks get this idea? Ghastly? Really? In September? There is the occasional day it's very hot but it's never too hot to play.

 

At least for some of us! :)

[az2au]

Hi all,

 

Going to be heading to Phoenix in September for a football game, looking for a round on a Friday morning.

 

First and foremost, what should I expect weather-wise in September? Will starting at 9 be too late? Is there a time that you can start in the afternoon and not die?

 

Second, we're staying relatively close to Talking Stick but have already played those. Looking for something in the average to slightly difficult range since one of the guys we're playing with is a very casual golfer. Don't want to travel too far from there but wouldn't be opposed if it was something we couldn't pass up. (I should note I've also played Troon Monument and TPC Stadium but would do those again if it's the most appropriate choice) Not sure if cost will end up being an issue, so open to all suggestions at this time.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

The best times to golf in the summer is usually to go out at around 6-6:30am, and be off the course by 10:30.

 

Twilight rounds, after 5pm, with the sun setting tend to be tolerable as well despite the temp.

 

Any other time tends to be ghastly.

Where do folks get this idea? Ghastly? Really? In September? There is the occasional day it's very hot but it's never too hot to play.

 

At least for some of us! :)

It is truly hilarious. I'm a mid 40s guy in healthy but average shape and I have no problem walking and carrying all summer long here. Anyone that can't do that (assuming no injury) should seriously question their level of fitness/health assuming they are less than 75 years old. It isn't hard and it most certainly isn't ghastly. If riding in a cart I can't imagine that there is even a low level of stress.

[vallygolf]

Hi all,

 

Going to be heading to Phoenix in September for a football game, looking for a round on a Friday morning.

 

First and foremost, what should I expect weather-wise in September? Will starting at 9 be too late? Is there a time that you can start in the afternoon and not die?

 

Second, we're staying relatively close to Talking Stick but have already played those. Looking for something in the average to slightly difficult range since one of the guys we're playing with is a very casual golfer. Don't want to travel too far from there but wouldn't be opposed if it was something we couldn't pass up. (I should note I've also played Troon Monument and TPC Stadium but would do those again if it's the most appropriate choice) Not sure if cost will end up being an issue, so open to all suggestions at this time.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

The best times to golf in the summer is usually to go out at around 6-6:30am, and be off the course by 10:30.

 

Twilight rounds, after 5pm, with the sun setting tend to be tolerable as well despite the temp.

 

Any other time tends to be ghastly.

Where do folks get this idea? Ghastly? Really? In September? There is the occasional day it's very hot but it's never too hot to play.

 

At least for some of us! :)

It is truly hilarious. I'm a mid 40s guy in healthy but average shape and I have no problem walking and carrying all summer long here. Anyone that can't do that (assuming no injury) should seriously question their level of fitness/health assuming they are less than 75 years old. It isn't hard and it most certainly isn't ghastly. If riding in a cart I can't imagine that there is even a low level of stress.

 

Handicap is down a point and a half since summer started.....I love summer in Phoenix for golf. If I take a cart I can play 36 holes in under 4 hours or walk 18 in just under 3. Still at a stage in life where time is more scarce than money. Summer maximizes my holes played vs time. Love it.

[evgolfer]

Hi all,

 

Going to be heading to Phoenix in September for a football game, looking for a round on a Friday morning.

 

First and foremost, what should I expect weather-wise in September? Will starting at 9 be too late? Is there a time that you can start in the afternoon and not die?

 

Second, we're staying relatively close to Talking Stick but have already played those. Looking for something in the average to slightly difficult range since one of the guys we're playing with is a very casual golfer. Don't want to travel too far from there but wouldn't be opposed if it was something we couldn't pass up. (I should note I've also played Troon Monument and TPC Stadium but would do those again if it's the most appropriate choice) Not sure if cost will end up being an issue, so open to all suggestions at this time.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

The best times to golf in the summer is usually to go out at around 6-6:30am, and be off the course by 10:30.

 

Twilight rounds, after 5pm, with the sun setting tend to be tolerable as well despite the temp.

 

Any other time tends to be ghastly.

Where do folks get this idea? Ghastly? Really? In September? There is the occasional day it's very hot but it's never too hot to play.

 

At least for some of us! :)

 

Some may enjoy golfing mid-day in 100 degree heat, but I'm not one of them. Horses for courses, I guess.

 

September has lows average in the mid-70s, which makes a morning dewsweeper round a lot more temperate than say a 12:30 round.

 

The poster seemed to want to know when the best time to golf was. If he was one of those any time is a good time to golf in the summer in Phoenix types, I figured he wouldn't have been asking.

 

Ghastly may be overstating it. Also, my epic drives are probably not that epic, and my pured shots are probably just mediocre.

[evgolfer]

Hi all,

 

Going to be heading to Phoenix in September for a football game, looking for a round on a Friday morning.

 

First and foremost, what should I expect weather-wise in September? Will starting at 9 be too late? Is there a time that you can start in the afternoon and not die?

 

Second, we're staying relatively close to Talking Stick but have already played those. Looking for something in the average to slightly difficult range since one of the guys we're playing with is a very casual golfer. Don't want to travel too far from there but wouldn't be opposed if it was something we couldn't pass up. (I should note I've also played Troon Monument and TPC Stadium but would do those again if it's the most appropriate choice) Not sure if cost will end up being an issue, so open to all suggestions at this time.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

The best times to golf in the summer is usually to go out at around 6-6:30am, and be off the course by 10:30.

 

Twilight rounds, after 5pm, with the sun setting tend to be tolerable as well despite the temp.

 

Any other time tends to be ghastly.

Where do folks get this idea? Ghastly? Really? In September? There is the occasional day it's very hot but it's never too hot to play.

 

At least for some of us! :)

It is truly hilarious. I'm a mid 40s guy in healthy but average shape and I have no problem walking and carrying all summer long here. Anyone that can't do that (assuming no injury) should seriously question their level of fitness/health assuming they are less than 75 years old. It isn't hard and it most certainly isn't ghastly. If riding in a cart I can't imagine that there is even a low level of stress.

 

I'll admit to not being fit, and being overweight. I just don't enjoy mid-day golf. Guessing by the amount of activity I see on golf courses I drive by at that time in the summer, I figure I am joined by many people in that feeling.

 

Again, to each their own. I'm all for people enjoying as much golf at whatever time or place they choose. Cheers!

[nsxguy]

Hi all,

 

Going to be heading to Phoenix in September for a football game, looking for a round on a Friday morning.

 

First and foremost, what should I expect weather-wise in September? Will starting at 9 be too late? Is there a time that you can start in the afternoon and not die?

 

Second, we're staying relatively close to Talking Stick but have already played those. Looking for something in the average to slightly difficult range since one of the guys we're playing with is a very casual golfer. Don't want to travel too far from there but wouldn't be opposed if it was something we couldn't pass up. (I should note I've also played Troon Monument and TPC Stadium but would do those again if it's the most appropriate choice) Not sure if cost will end up being an issue, so open to all suggestions at this time.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

The best times to golf in the summer is usually to go out at around 6-6:30am, and be off the course by 10:30.

 

Twilight rounds, after 5pm, with the sun setting tend to be tolerable as well despite the temp.

 

Any other time tends to be ghastly.

Where do folks get this idea? Ghastly? Really? In September? There is the occasional day it's very hot but it's never too hot to play.

 

At least for some of us! :)

It is truly hilarious. I'm a mid 40s guy in healthy but average shape and I have no problem walking and carrying all summer long here. Anyone that can't do that (assuming no injury) should seriously question their level of fitness/health assuming they are less than 75 years old. It isn't hard and it most certainly isn't ghastly. If riding in a cart I can't imagine that there is even a low level of stress.

 

Maybe getting used to it helps ?

 

As a visitor I've played a half dozen rounds or so in July.

 

Morning rounds were quite comfortable at 90-95* but the Noon starts, at 115, not so much. Walking at 115 could literally be deadly for older anybody.

[One_Putt_Blunder]

Heat is a lot like high altitude IMO, acclimatization helps. I cant just fly to Colorado and climb a mountain from 10,000-14,000 feet with the same aerobic efficiency that say someone who lives at 5-8,000 feet.

 

Likewise here in PHX We have actually had to send a guy off the course at 79 degrees because of obvious signs of heat stroke/exhaustion. He was a Canadian in town and decided to walk with us on a warm winter day. By hole 10 my buddy(fire captain, former medic) took his vitals and said dude you need to go to the hospital. He refused ambulance, but at least decided to head in.

[vallygolf]

So true OPB. I think adjusted fluid intake is one of the biggest factors, we are used to drinking so much more often, but because it takes time to autoregulate we (locals) dont perceive the difference.

[Rohlio]

Heat is a lot like high altitude IMO, acclimatization helps. I cant just fly to Colorado and climb a mountain from 10,000-14,000 feet with the same aerobic efficiency that say someone who lives at 5-8,000 feet.

 

Likewise here in PHX We have actually had to send a guy off the course at 79 degrees because of obvious signs of heat stroke/exhaustion. He was a Canadian in town and decided to walk with us on a warm winter day. By hole 10 my buddy(fire captain, former medic) took his vitals and said dude you need to go to the hospital. He refused ambulance, but at least decided to head in.

 

When I was living in Oregon and would come down to Phoenix a few times a year, my lips would crack, my skin would get dry and I had no tolerance for the heat. Now that I live here again I haven't experienced any of those issues...and I am perfectly comfortable playing in the hot weather. It just takes time for your body to adapt.

 

Oh and worst of all I could barely drink when I came down here as I would get splitting headaches and totally dehydrated overnight....thank god that is fixed as I can drink like a fish now!

[az2au]

Heat is a lot like high altitude IMO, acclimatization helps. I cant just fly to Colorado and climb a mountain from 10,000-14,000 feet with the same aerobic efficiency that say someone who lives at 5-8,000 feet.

 

Likewise here in PHX We have actually had to send a guy off the course at 79 degrees because of obvious signs of heat stroke/exhaustion. He was a Canadian in town and decided to walk with us on a warm winter day. By hole 10 my buddy(fire captain, former medic) took his vitals and said dude you need to go to the hospital. He refused ambulance, but at least decided to head in.

You know, this is likely true. I'm gone during the week (2-3 days) ~100% of the time but I still think my body is adjusted for the temps here. Whenever I go to very humid places I get massive headaches the first couple of days and find it to be a miserable experience. After I'm there for a few days I just find to be miserable without the headaches :)

[Dr. Hack]

Heat is a lot like high altitude IMO, acclimatization helps. I cant just fly to Colorado and climb a mountain from 10,000-14,000 feet with the same aerobic efficiency that say someone who lives at 5-8,000 feet.

 

Likewise here in PHX We have actually had to send a guy off the course at 79 degrees because of obvious signs of heat stroke/exhaustion. He was a Canadian in town and decided to walk with us on a warm winter day. By hole 10 my buddy(fire captain, former medic) took his vitals and said dude you need to go to the hospital. He refused ambulance, but at least decided to head in.

You know, this is likely true. I'm gone during the week (2-3 days) ~100% of the time but I still think my body is adjusted for the temps here. Whenever I go to very humid places I get massive headaches the first couple of days and find it to be a miserable experience. After I'm there for a few days I just find to be miserable without the headaches :)

 

35% humidity.....normally 104 degrees I can handle but it was awful out there today. I need serious hydration supplies.

[Schley]

Saudi Arabia is similar to Phoenix in the summer, although we get humidity as well, contrary to popular belief. I had a heat stroke incident playing in the summer there, thus I don’t really play during the day 11 am onward. That is until the 9 hole lighted side is utilized after dark to take 15-20 degrees off the heat down to just a mere 95-100.

 

almost everyone uses carts, as a matter of fact our club forbids walking during tournaments in the summer. Water on every hole, there was talk of actually putting in sunshades on the tee boxes to cover the tee as well which IMO would be a good idea. While they are at it, have a mister installed on a switch ).

 

I don’t see why we can’t appreciate our differences and preferences for playing conditions, without claiming someone is a fat slob or lazy. I am neither and I will NOT play during the day for 5 months out of the year.

[az2au]

Saudi Arabia is similar to Phoenix in the summer, although we get humidity as well, contrary to popular belief. I had a heat stroke incident playing in the summer there, thus I don’t really play during the day 11 am onward. That is until the 9 hole lighted side is utilized after dark to take 15-20 degrees off the heat down to just a mere 95-100.

 

almost everyone uses carts, as a matter of fact our club forbids walking during tournaments in the summer. Water on every hole, there was talk of actually putting in sunshades on the tee boxes to cover the tee as well which IMO would be a good idea. While they are at it, have a mister installed on a switch ).

 

I don’t see why we can’t appreciate our differences and preferences for playing conditions, without claiming someone is a fat slob or lazy. I am neither and I will NOT play during the day for 5 months out of the year.

I think the term that caused me to write that was "ghastly" because I honestly see no problem in walking and carrying at 105* in the middle of the summer here and have done it well over 100 times for sure. I don't know that I've ever played golf in a cart where I felt even a little bit of stress from heat. Given that I have roughly the lightest possible complexion and am merely of average health I thought it was pretty odd/funny to see it called ghastly. You'll notice however that we all decided to agree that what you're used to matters a lot. There are many times in the Southeast where the temps are in the low 90s that I've chosen not to play simply because I don't even like being outside in humid areas when they are that warm. Not because of heat but because I can't stand every single part of me being soaked from doing nothing more than sitting around. Clearly that's a stated preference that others would think is ridiculous (perhaps not many but I'm sure there are some!).

 

TLDR: Yep, agree.

[evgolfer]

Saudi Arabia is similar to Phoenix in the summer, although we get humidity as well, contrary to popular belief. I had a heat stroke incident playing in the summer there, thus I don’t really play during the day 11 am onward. That is until the 9 hole lighted side is utilized after dark to take 15-20 degrees off the heat down to just a mere 95-100.

 

almost everyone uses carts, as a matter of fact our club forbids walking during tournaments in the summer. Water on every hole, there was talk of actually putting in sunshades on the tee boxes to cover the tee as well which IMO would be a good idea. While they are at it, have a mister installed on a switch ).

 

I don’t see why we can’t appreciate our differences and preferences for playing conditions, without claiming someone is a fat slob or lazy. I am neither and I will NOT play during the day for 5 months out of the year.

I think the term that caused me to write that was "ghastly" because I honestly see no problem in walking and carrying at 105* in the middle of the summer here and have done it well over 100 times for sure. I don't know that I've ever played golf in a cart where I felt even a little bit of stress from heat. Given that I have roughly the lightest possible complexion and am merely of average health I thought it was pretty odd/funny to see it called ghastly. You'll notice however that we all decided to agree that what you're used to matters a lot. There are many times in the Southeast where the temps are in the low 90s that I've chosen not to play simply because I don't even like being outside in humid areas when they are that warm. Not because of heat but because I can't stand every single part of me being soaked from doing nothing more than sitting around. Clearly that's a stated preference that others would think is ridiculous (perhaps not many but I'm sure there are some!).

 

TLDR: Yep, agree.

 

I updated the wording on my post from ghastly to less comfortable.

[Dr. Hack]

Saudi Arabia is similar to Phoenix in the summer, although we get humidity as well, contrary to popular belief. I had a heat stroke incident playing in the summer there, thus I don’t really play during the day 11 am onward. That is until the 9 hole lighted side is utilized after dark to take 15-20 degrees off the heat down to just a mere 95-100.

 

almost everyone uses carts, as a matter of fact our club forbids walking during tournaments in the summer. Water on every hole, there was talk of actually putting in sunshades on the tee boxes to cover the tee as well which IMO would be a good idea. While they are at it, have a mister installed on a switch ).

 

I don’t see why we can’t appreciate our differences and preferences for playing conditions, without claiming someone is a fat slob or lazy. I am neither and I will NOT play during the day for 5 months out of the year.

I think the term that caused me to write that was "ghastly" because I honestly see no problem in walking and carrying at 105* in the middle of the summer here and have done it well over 100 times for sure. I don't know that I've ever played golf in a cart where I felt even a little bit of stress from heat. Given that I have roughly the lightest possible complexion and am merely of average health I thought it was pretty odd/funny to see it called ghastly. You'll notice however that we all decided to agree that what you're used to matters a lot. There are many times in the Southeast where the temps are in the low 90s that I've chosen not to play simply because I don't even like being outside in humid areas when they are that warm. Not because of heat but because I can't stand every single part of me being soaked from doing nothing more than sitting around. Clearly that's a stated preference that others would think is ridiculous (perhaps not many but I'm sure there are some!).

 

TLDR: Yep, agree.

 

I've only lived here a couple years but I find <110 to be tolerable as long as you're prepared. I do find it to be a little bit of an adventure. Played Mountain Shadows last week at 117 degrees and literally had the whole course to myself for 4 hours. That said, I'm usually sweating completely through my shirt and have drunk 4 bottles of water by the 10th hole. And I definitely start to think about long walks across the fairway and extended time standing at the tee box. Someone could get heat stroke out there if they aren't careful. I'll take the heat because I love the easy tee times, lower cost, and open courses, but it definitely causes me a little bit of stress.

[Rohlio]

Saudi Arabia is similar to Phoenix in the summer, although we get humidity as well, contrary to popular belief. I had a heat stroke incident playing in the summer there, thus I don’t really play during the day 11 am onward. That is until the 9 hole lighted side is utilized after dark to take 15-20 degrees off the heat down to just a mere 95-100.

 

almost everyone uses carts, as a matter of fact our club forbids walking during tournaments in the summer. Water on every hole, there was talk of actually putting in sunshades on the tee boxes to cover the tee as well which IMO would be a good idea. While they are at it, have a mister installed on a switch ).

 

I don’t see why we can’t appreciate our differences and preferences for playing conditions, without claiming someone is a fat slob or lazy. I am neither and I will NOT play during the day for 5 months out of the year.

I think the term that caused me to write that was "ghastly" because I honestly see no problem in walking and carrying at 105* in the middle of the summer here and have done it well over 100 times for sure. I don't know that I've ever played golf in a cart where I felt even a little bit of stress from heat. Given that I have roughly the lightest possible complexion and am merely of average health I thought it was pretty odd/funny to see it called ghastly. You'll notice however that we all decided to agree that what you're used to matters a lot. There are many times in the Southeast where the temps are in the low 90s that I've chosen not to play simply because I don't even like being outside in humid areas when they are that warm. Not because of heat but because I can't stand every single part of me being soaked from doing nothing more than sitting around. Clearly that's a stated preference that others would think is ridiculous (perhaps not many but I'm sure there are some!).

 

TLDR: Yep, agree.

 

I've only lived here a couple years but I find <110 to be tolerable as long as you're prepared. I do find it to be a little bit of an adventure. Played Mountain Shadows last week at 117 degrees and literally had the whole course to myself for 4 hours. That said, I'm usually sweating completely through my shirt and have drunk 4 bottles of water by the 10th hole. And I definitely start to think about long walks across the fairway and extended time standing at the tee box. Someone could get heat stroke out there if they aren't careful. I'll take the heat because I love the easy tee times, lower cost, and open courses, but it definitely causes me a little bit of stress.

 

It is also important to remember that physiologically if you have had heat stroke before you are significantly more likely to get it again with less stimulus.

[Schley]

Saudi Arabia is similar to Phoenix in the summer, although we get humidity as well, contrary to popular belief. I had a heat stroke incident playing in the summer there, thus I don't really play during the day 11 am onward. That is until the 9 hole lighted side is utilized after dark to take 15-20 degrees off the heat down to just a mere 95-100.

 

almost everyone uses carts, as a matter of fact our club forbids walking during tournaments in the summer. Water on every hole, there was talk of actually putting in sunshades on the tee boxes to cover the tee as well which IMO would be a good idea. While they are at it, have a mister installed on a switch ).

 

I don't see why we can't appreciate our differences and preferences for playing conditions, without claiming someone is a fat slob or lazy. I am neither and I will NOT play during the day for 5 months out of the year.

I think the term that caused me to write that was "ghastly" because I honestly see no problem in walking and carrying at 105* in the middle of the summer here and have done it well over 100 times for sure. I don't know that I've ever played golf in a cart where I felt even a little bit of stress from heat. Given that I have roughly the lightest possible complexion and am merely of average health I thought it was pretty odd/funny to see it called ghastly. You'll notice however that we all decided to agree that what you're used to matters a lot. There are many times in the Southeast where the temps are in the low 90s that I've chosen not to play simply because I don't even like being outside in humid areas when they are that warm. Not because of heat but because I can't stand every single part of me being soaked from doing nothing more than sitting around. Clearly that's a stated preference that others would think is ridiculous (perhaps not many but I'm sure there are some!).

 

TLDR: Yep, agree.

 

I've only lived here a couple years but I find <110 to be tolerable as long as you're prepared. I do find it to be a little bit of an adventure. Played Mountain Shadows last week at 117 degrees and literally had the whole course to myself for 4 hours. That said, I'm usually sweating completely through my shirt and have drunk 4 bottles of water by the 10th hole. And I definitely start to think about long walks across the fairway and extended time standing at the tee box. Someone could get heat stroke out there if they aren't careful. I'll take the heat because I love the easy tee times, lower cost, and open courses, but it definitely causes me a little bit of stress.

 

It is also important to remember that physiologically if you have had heat stroke before you are significantly more likely to get it again with less stimulus.

 

Holy shnikeeeeeees! I didn't know this, but have had it and I guess I should move or just stay indoors for 5 months. I can say it was scary to have as I was conscious of what was going on, but not sure what was happening exactly until the doctor told me finally in the ER.

[DrSchteeve]

Saudi Arabia is similar to Phoenix in the summer, although we get humidity as well, contrary to popular belief. I had a heat stroke incident playing in the summer there, thus I don't really play during the day 11 am onward. That is until the 9 hole lighted side is utilized after dark to take 15-20 degrees off the heat down to just a mere 95-100.

 

almost everyone uses carts, as a matter of fact our club forbids walking during tournaments in the summer. Water on every hole, there was talk of actually putting in sunshades on the tee boxes to cover the tee as well which IMO would be a good idea. While they are at it, have a mister installed on a switch ).

 

I don't see why we can't appreciate our differences and preferences for playing conditions, without claiming someone is a fat slob or lazy. I am neither and I will NOT play during the day for 5 months out of the year.

I think the term that caused me to write that was "ghastly" because I honestly see no problem in walking and carrying at 105* in the middle of the summer here and have done it well over 100 times for sure. I don't know that I've ever played golf in a cart where I felt even a little bit of stress from heat. Given that I have roughly the lightest possible complexion and am merely of average health I thought it was pretty odd/funny to see it called ghastly. You'll notice however that we all decided to agree that what you're used to matters a lot. There are many times in the Southeast where the temps are in the low 90s that I've chosen not to play simply because I don't even like being outside in humid areas when they are that warm. Not because of heat but because I can't stand every single part of me being soaked from doing nothing more than sitting around. Clearly that's a stated preference that others would think is ridiculous (perhaps not many but I'm sure there are some!).

 

TLDR: Yep, agree.

 

I've only lived here a couple years but I find <110 to be tolerable as long as you're prepared. I do find it to be a little bit of an adventure. Played Mountain Shadows last week at 117 degrees and literally had the whole course to myself for 4 hours. That said, I'm usually sweating completely through my shirt and have drunk 4 bottles of water by the 10th hole. And I definitely start to think about long walks across the fairway and extended time standing at the tee box. Someone could get heat stroke out there if they aren't careful. I'll take the heat because I love the easy tee times, lower cost, and open courses, but it definitely causes me a little bit of stress.

 

It is also important to remember that physiologically if you have had heat stroke before you are significantly more likely to get it again with less stimulus.

 

While that's true, if a person who has suffered from a heat-related illness, the first question would be whether the person had maximally prepared to avoid heat-related issues. If the person had done everything possible, and suffered a more serious rather than less serious heat-related condition, then indeed avoiding heat whenever possible is probably a smart call.

 

I would call maximum preparation 1) maximal hydration with water/equivalent at least 1-2 days before playing, 2) light clothing, from shoes, to socks, to shorts (or skirt), shirts and hat, even gloves - white or as close to white as possible, 3) drink water/equivalent while playing, at least 1/2 gallon (64 ounces), 4) seek shade in every possible circumstance, 5) use a cooling towel - I keep one wrapped around my neck at all times, just refresh it with water every few holes.

 

Those are all things that just about anyone can do for every round in the heat. A few other good ideas, though some may run contrary to one of the reasons someone might be on a golf trip, are 6) optimize sleep the night before a round, 7) manage intake of alcohol and any other psychoactive substances the night before, and during, a round, 3) try to play at places and times that will result in faster rounds - the less overall time in the heat, the less likely unpleasant effects.

[nsxguy]

Saudi Arabia is similar to Phoenix in the summer, although we get humidity as well, contrary to popular belief. I had a heat stroke incident playing in the summer there, thus I don’t really play during the day 11 am onward. That is until the 9 hole lighted side is utilized after dark to take 15-20 degrees off the heat down to just a mere 95-100.

 

almost everyone uses carts, as a matter of fact our club forbids walking during tournaments in the summer. Water on every hole, there was talk of actually putting in sunshades on the tee boxes to cover the tee as well which IMO would be a good idea. While they are at it, have a mister installed on a switch ).

 

I don’t see why we can’t appreciate our differences and preferences for playing conditions, without claiming someone is a fat slob or lazy. I am neither and I will NOT play during the day for 5 months out of the year.

I think the term that caused me to write that was "ghastly" because I honestly see no problem in walking and carrying at 105* in the middle of the summer here and have done it well over 100 times for sure. I don't know that I've ever played golf in a cart where I felt even a little bit of stress from heat. Given that I have roughly the lightest possible complexion and am merely of average health I thought it was pretty odd/funny to see it called ghastly. You'll notice however that we all decided to agree that what you're used to matters a lot. There are many times in the Southeast where the temps are in the low 90s that I've chosen not to play simply because I don't even like being outside in humid areas when they are that warm. Not because of heat but because I can't stand every single part of me being soaked from doing nothing more than sitting around. Clearly that's a stated preference that others would think is ridiculous (perhaps not many but I'm sure there are some!).

 

TLDR: Yep, agree.

 

I've only lived here a couple years but I find <110 to be tolerable as long as you're prepared. I do find it to be a little bit of an adventure. Played Mountain Shadows last week at 117 degrees and literally had the whole course to myself for 4 hours. That said, I'm usually sweating completely through my shirt and have drunk 4 bottles of water by the 10th hole. And I definitely start to think about long walks across the fairway and extended time standing at the tee box. Someone could get heat stroke out there if they aren't careful. I'll take the heat because I love the easy tee times, lower cost, and open courses, but it definitely causes me a little bit of stress.

 

That's funny because as I remember it I don't recall sweating much at all. The dryness of the air causes the sweat to evaporate almost as soon as it shows up. That's why it's so dangerous out there. When people sweat they know they're losing water and will drink. When you don't sweat you don't realize you're losing the water.

 

Water is a way of life out there. My buddy (originally from NY) has a refrigerator in his garage filled with liter bottles of water and grabs one every time he leaves the house. It ain't funny. One needs to stay hydrated in the desert.

[az2au]

Walked today as a matter of fact. Found it to be a very pleasant day but we played too early (7:48am off the first) so it was a touch humid due to overnight watering. Walked off 18 at 10:58 so the pace was very casual as my guest took a cart. He’s Canadian after all :)

[Rohlio]

Walked today as a matter of fact. Found it to be a very pleasant day but we played too early (7:48am off the first) so it was a touch humid due to overnight watering. Walked off 18 at 10:58 so the pace was very casual as my guest took a cart. He’s Canadian after all :)

 

I played 36 at Wickenburgh Ranch yesterday.

 

Sure the second round was hot... But I was well hydrated, used the shade aggressively and a ton of sunblock. Felt just a bit of fatigue by the end, but otherwise good.

 

It is doable but certainly not everyone's cup of tea.

[nsxguy]

Walked today as a matter of fact. Found it to be a very pleasant day but we played too early (7:48am off the first) so it was a touch humid due to overnight watering. Walked off 18 at 10:58 so the pace was very casual as my guest took a cart. He's Canadian after all :)

 

I seem to recall playing about 7 AM in the Summer in Phoenix and it was about 94,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and it felt perfectly comfortable,,,,,,,,,,,, kinds sorta like playing in 75-80* sunshine in say, NYC,,,,,,,,,,,,, :D

[Dr. Hack]

Played Grayhawk today in the afternoon, about ~102 heat and it was very tolerable. Much better than a couple weekends ago.

[xjohnx]

Played Grayhawk today in the afternoon, about ~102 heat and it was very tolerable. Much better than a couple weekends ago.

 

I’d take 102 out there any day over the recent 90/80% humidity here in New England. I’m going to have to take a note from Tiger and start packing extra shirts.

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[BUCKEYERBALL88]

I live near wildfire golf course. Can anyone recommend?

 

-A driving range to work on 50, 60, 70 wedge distances

-decent courses that offer 9 holes rates

[fore_life]

Wildfire has a range right?

[Bonneville85308]

^^^ Yes, right next to the cart staging area and parking lot, and I believe a short game area between the range tee and the #1 tee on Palmer.