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  • tigerfan23tigerfan23 Members  8036WRX Points: 369Posts: 8,036 Titanium Tees
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    these balls are amazing.... I'm going to trade some of my Pro V for them. A bit longer than Pro V and spin just as much for me.
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    SIM MAX 10.5 TOUR AD DI 6
    SIM MAX FAIRWAY 15 TOUR AD DI 7
    SIM MAX HYBRID 19 TOUR AD DI 85

    TITLEIST T100 3-PW PX 6.0
    VOKEY SM8 CHROME 52 56S 60M PX6.0

    2 BALL TRIPLE TRACK

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  • KmacKmac Members  854WRX Points: 179Posts: 854 Golden Tee
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    BiggErn wrote:
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    Kmac wrote:
    I loved this ball when I tried it and that was down in the Pinehurst area during the winter. And LOL @ Duo being just as good. The Duo is one of those "its a good ball for the money" balls like the QST but it is not even in the same zip code as the AVX. I think for the average amatuer golfer the AVX is a great ball other than being overpriced a bit.
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    The Duo urethane I’m sure was the comparison and not the regular marshmallow surlyn/ionomer duo ball.<br />
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    Correct and that didnt matter. Still a LOL comment to compare a Wilson ball to the AVX. Urethane or not.
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  • gvogelgvogel Members  8489WRX Points: 1,408Posts: 8,489 Titanium Tees
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    I tried the AVX. I am going back to the ProV1x, which I think is actually longer off the tee for me, and feels better around the green.
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  • Break81Break81 Broke80 Members  2037WRX Points: 90Handicap: 9.5Posts: 2,037 Platinum Tees
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    Kmac wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:
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    Kmac wrote:
    I loved this ball when I tried it and that was down in the Pinehurst area during the winter. And LOL @ Duo being just as good. The Duo is one of those "its a good ball for the money" balls like the QST but it is not even in the same zip code as the AVX. I think for the average amatuer golfer the AVX is a great ball other than being overpriced a bit.
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    The Duo urethane I’m sure was the comparison and not the regular marshmallow surlyn/ionomer duo ball.<br />
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    Correct and that didnt matter. Still a LOL comment to compare a Wilson ball to the AVX. Urethane or not.
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    Is there an issue comparing the Duo-U to the AVX?<br />
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    I actually prefer the Duo-U and it’s not even close.
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  • North ButteNorth Butte Members  11817WRX Points: 1,615Posts: 11,817 Titanium Tees
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    FWIW, back in 2013 I used the (Wilson) FG Tour and (Titleist) ProV1 each for quite a while over the course of a few months. They seemed pretty darned interchangeable to me, maybe the FG Tour flew a smidge higher maybe not. But in a blind test over 18 holes no way I could have distinguished them.
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  • KmacKmac Members  854WRX Points: 179Posts: 854 Golden Tee
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    Break81 wrote:
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    Kmac wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:
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    Kmac wrote:
    I loved this ball when I tried it and that was down in the Pinehurst area during the winter. And LOL @ Duo being just as good. The Duo is one of those "its a good ball for the money" balls like the QST but it is not even in the same zip code as the AVX. I think for the average amatuer golfer the AVX is a great ball other than being overpriced a bit.
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    The Duo urethane I’m sure was the comparison and not the regular marshmallow surlyn/ionomer duo ball.<br />
    <br />
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    Correct and that didnt matter. Still a LOL comment to compare a Wilson ball to the AVX. Urethane or not.
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    Is there an issue comparing the Duo-U to the AVX?<br />
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    I actually prefer the Duo-U and it’s not even close.<br />
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    Pretty much my exact thoughts but the AVX and not even close, lol.
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  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2914WRX Points: 787Posts: 2,914 Titanium Tees
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    Kmac wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:
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    Kmac wrote:
    I loved this ball when I tried it and that was down in the Pinehurst area during the winter. And LOL @ Duo being just as good. The Duo is one of those "its a good ball for the money" balls like the QST but it is not even in the same zip code as the AVX. I think for the average amatuer golfer the AVX is a great ball other than being overpriced a bit.
    <br />
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    The Duo urethane I’m sure was the comparison and not the regular marshmallow surlyn/ionomer duo ball.<br />
    <br />
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    Correct and that didnt matter. Still a LOL comment to compare a Wilson ball to the AVX. Urethane or not.
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    Why? Wilson jumped on the wagon long before Titleist did.
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  • KmacKmac Members  854WRX Points: 179Posts: 854 Golden Tee
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    BiggErn wrote:
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    Kmac wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:
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    Kmac wrote:
    I loved this ball when I tried it and that was down in the Pinehurst area during the winter. And LOL @ Duo being just as good. The Duo is one of those "its a good ball for the money" balls like the QST but it is not even in the same zip code as the AVX. I think for the average amatuer golfer the AVX is a great ball other than being overpriced a bit.
    <br />
    <br />
    The Duo urethane I’m sure was the comparison and not the regular marshmallow surlyn/ionomer duo ball.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Correct and that didnt matter. Still a LOL comment to compare a Wilson ball to the AVX. Urethane or not.
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    Why? Wilson jumped on the wagon long before Titleist did.<br />
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    True but I found the Duo to be a very average at best ball. At least in my opinion.
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  • Break81Break81 Broke80 Members  2037WRX Points: 90Handicap: 9.5Posts: 2,037 Platinum Tees
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    Duo-U for me had far better short game control. AVX might have an advantage off the tee but illl take confidence when close all day long.
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  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2914WRX Points: 787Posts: 2,914 Titanium Tees
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    Kmac wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:
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    Kmac wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:
    <br />
    Kmac wrote:
    I loved this ball when I tried it and that was down in the Pinehurst area during the winter. And LOL @ Duo being just as good. The Duo is one of those "its a good ball for the money" balls like the QST but it is not even in the same zip code as the AVX. I think for the average amatuer golfer the AVX is a great ball other than being overpriced a bit.
    <br />
    <br />
    The Duo urethane I’m sure was the comparison and not the regular marshmallow surlyn/ionomer duo ball.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Correct and that didnt matter. Still a LOL comment to compare a Wilson ball to the AVX. Urethane or not.
    <br />
    <br />
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    Why? Wilson jumped on the wagon long before Titleist did.<br />
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    True but I found the Duo to be a very average at best ball. At least in my opinion.
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    Titleist didn’t reinvent the wheel when they made the AVX although they love pretending that it’s something “revolutionary” and price it like it is. You won’t find a lot of difference in the Wilson Duo U, project (a), Chrome Soft, or the AVX. Yes there will be minor nuances for each like slight spin differences, feel, slight launch/trajectory, but no extraordinary spikes on the chart like some claim.
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  • Z4ParZ4Par Members  439WRX Points: 17Handicap: 7.2Posts: 439 Greens
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    27 rounds with the AVX = game changer. Lots of factors involved and one could argue till they are blue in the face that its not the ball. But it so happens that the AVX is the ball thats getting these great scores for me when others were not. The AVX is aiding the road to good scores. Call it clubs, call it confidence; go ahead and argue that a ball can’t drop someone’s handicap if you’d like. Because I’ll argue it all day long; the ball makes a huge difference in many aspects once you find one that changes your game for the better.
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    Callaway Rogue Draw Driver (10 Degrees) 9 Degree setup at +1, Neutral Setting - Aldila Synergy 50 (60 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 4 Wood (17 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (68 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 3 Hybrid (19 Degrees), 4 Hybrid (21 Degrees), 5 Hybrid (24 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (75 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Titleist 718 AP3 6 Iron (28 Degrees) through PW (43 Degrees) and Wedge (48 Degrees) - AMT Black S300 - Standard
    Titleist SM6 - 52 Degree F Grind 8 Degree Bounce and 56 Degree F Grind 14 Degree Bounce - Project X 6.0 - Standard
    2018 TaylorMade Spider Tour Red Sightline
    Titleist AVX
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  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2914WRX Points: 787Posts: 2,914 Titanium Tees
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    If I played 27 rounds since the end of April it would be a game changer as well with any ball.
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  • Z4ParZ4Par Members  439WRX Points: 17Handicap: 7.2Posts: 439 Greens
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    BiggErn wrote:
    If I played 27 rounds since the end of April it would be a game changer as well with any ball.
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    Interesting that other balls in the past didn’t have the same affect for me let’s say through even 5-10 rounds. Interesting that no other ball showed near as good of results as the AVX did through even 10 rounds though. Coincidence? Back to my point; the right ball when found is a key component.
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    Callaway Rogue Draw Driver (10 Degrees) 9 Degree setup at +1, Neutral Setting - Aldila Synergy 50 (60 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 4 Wood (17 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (68 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 3 Hybrid (19 Degrees), 4 Hybrid (21 Degrees), 5 Hybrid (24 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (75 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Titleist 718 AP3 6 Iron (28 Degrees) through PW (43 Degrees) and Wedge (48 Degrees) - AMT Black S300 - Standard
    Titleist SM6 - 52 Degree F Grind 8 Degree Bounce and 56 Degree F Grind 14 Degree Bounce - Project X 6.0 - Standard
    2018 TaylorMade Spider Tour Red Sightline
    Titleist AVX
  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2914WRX Points: 787Posts: 2,914 Titanium Tees
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    Z4Par wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:
    If I played 27 rounds since the end of April it would be a game changer as well with any ball.
    <br />
    <br />
    Interesting that other balls in the past didn’t have the same affect for me let’s say through even 5-10 rounds. Interesting that no other ball showed near as good of results as the AVX did through even 10 rounds though. Coincidence? Back to my point; the right ball when found is a key component.
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    Glad it’s working for ya. That Titleist logo must just “fit your eye” better than other balls.
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  • Z4ParZ4Par Members  439WRX Points: 17Handicap: 7.2Posts: 439 Greens
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    BiggErn wrote:
    Z4Par wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:
    If I played 27 rounds since the end of April it would be a game changer as well with any ball.
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    <br />
    Interesting that other balls in the past didn’t have the same affect for me let’s say through even 5-10 rounds. Interesting that no other ball showed near as good of results as the AVX did through even 10 rounds though. Coincidence? Back to my point; the right ball when found is a key component.
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    Glad it’s working for ya. That Titleist logo must just “fit your eye” better than other balls.
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    Maybe it does. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I doubt it, but possibly a bit of it. But I’m okay with that if that’s part of what mentally helps get my scores better. But I’d probably buy $100 Top Flight balls if I knew a year ago my game would have improved as much as it has. I have no problem spending money on golf balls. I don’t use that many for the price to be a concern.
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    Callaway Rogue Draw Driver (10 Degrees) 9 Degree setup at +1, Neutral Setting - Aldila Synergy 50 (60 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 4 Wood (17 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (68 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 3 Hybrid (19 Degrees), 4 Hybrid (21 Degrees), 5 Hybrid (24 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (75 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Titleist 718 AP3 6 Iron (28 Degrees) through PW (43 Degrees) and Wedge (48 Degrees) - AMT Black S300 - Standard
    Titleist SM6 - 52 Degree F Grind 8 Degree Bounce and 56 Degree F Grind 14 Degree Bounce - Project X 6.0 - Standard
    2018 TaylorMade Spider Tour Red Sightline
    Titleist AVX
  • jcg132jcg132 PTPOTCW StamvegasMembers  1110WRX Points: 78Posts: 1,110 Platinum Tees
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    I also think the Duo U performs better
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    Scotty Cameron 009M Carbon - 34", 3.5°, 70°

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  • ginringinrin Members  107WRX Points: 71Posts: 107 Fairways
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    I was sceptical as well as I'm a low ball hitter but this ball performs quite good in all aspects of my game. Not sure what it is but it gives me a bit of confidence knowing it suits my game so well.
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  • North ButteNorth Butte Members  11817WRX Points: 1,615Posts: 11,817 Titanium Tees
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    BiggErn wrote:
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    Titleist didn’t reinvent the wheel when they made the AVX although they love pretending that it’s something “revolutionary” and price it like it is.<br />
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    Yeah, who are they trying to kid with that "Ball that Changed the Ball" junk? Only Titleist would have the nerve to come up with something like that.<br />
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    Oh wait. That wasn't Titleist, was it???
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  • HondabuffHondabuff PAMembers  1561WRX Points: 151Handicap: 6Posts: 1,561 Platinum Tees
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    Back to Back low career rounds with the AVX. Reminds me a lot of the original B330-RX but can handle higher swing speeds off the driver with a lower ball flight but spins more then the B330-RXS around the greens. I feel the Prov1 and Prov1x fills the role for Tour Pros and the AVX fits the 0-6 hcp players perfectly.
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    Titleist TS3 9.5* 6.0 Hzdrus Black Smoke 
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    Titleist Vokey SM4 50/54/58 Project X 6.0
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  • BrandonG31BrandonG31 Members  134WRX Points: 11Handicap: 9.5Posts: 134 Fairways
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    The past few rounds I’ve seen this thing zip back on wedge shots, and it checks hard on chip shots. I look at it like a forgiving proV. I’m not a pro golfer, so when I hit a chip a little heavy, it runs out further, whereas, a proV will be left 10 feet short.
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  • Sean2Sean2 Members  32795WRX Points: 3,243Posts: 32,795 Titanium Tees
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    I found one and played it for 18 holes during my next round. I didn't think much of the ball, especially at that price.
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    Treat yourself as if you were someone you are responsible for helping. Jordan Peterson

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    I have to lol at the few guys who think a ball is cutting their handicap in half. So somewhere between a 5 & 15 percent reduction in spin and 1-2* lower launch than the ProV1 is cutting handicaps in half? And those are just the things that titleist is claiming, no numbers I’ve seen to even back it up yet. <br />
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    No those aren’t numbers they are providing, those are just the claims they are making(lower launch and spin) and if true, roughly what the changes would be I would think. <br />
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    Most premium balls are so similar that you can’t even tell the difference(especially if a blind test was done). And the ones that are different, are different by such a small amount that for 99.9% of golfers it would not equate to ANYWHERE close to a 50% reduction in handicap.
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    3 hybrid: Ping G 19* Alta 70 S

    4i: Mizuno JPX 900 Hot Metal C-Taper Lite S

    5-GW: Mizuno JPX 900 Forged C-Taper Lite S

    Wedges: Cleveland RTX-3 V-MG 54* & 60*

    Putter: 2018 Newport 34”
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    <br />
    I have to lol at the few guys who think a ball is cutting their handicap in half. So somewhere between a 5 &amp; 15 percent reduction in spin and 1-2* lower launch than the ProV1 is cutting handicaps in half? And those are just the things that titleist is claiming, no numbers I’ve seen to even back it up yet. <br />
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    No those aren’t numbers they are providing, those are just the claims they are making(lower launch and spin) and if true, roughly what the changes would be I would think. <br />
    <br />
    Most premium balls are so similar that you can’t even tell the difference(especially if a blind test was done). And the ones that are different, are different by such a small amount that for 99.9% of golfers it would not equate to ANYWHERE close to a 50% reduction in handicap.<br />
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    AVX does not launch lower, its peak height is lower (and descent angle shallower) due to its dimple design. Launch angle is similar to ProV1 and ProV1x.
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  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2914WRX Points: 787Posts: 2,914 Titanium Tees
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    I have to lol at the few guys who think a ball is cutting their handicap in half. So somewhere between a 5 & 15 percent reduction in spin and 1-2* lower launch than the ProV1 is cutting handicaps in half? And those are just the things that titleist is claiming, no numbers I’ve seen to even back it up yet. <br />
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    No those aren’t numbers they are providing, those are just the claims they are making(lower launch and spin) and if true, roughly what the changes would be I would think. <br />
    <br />
    Most premium balls are so similar that you can’t even tell the difference(especially if a blind test was done). And the ones that are different, are different by such a small amount that for 99.9% of golfers it would not equate to ANYWHERE close to a 50% reduction in handicap.
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    I’ve saw some studies between the AVX, V1, and V1x that had almost identical numbers in spin, launch, and distance off the driver and wedges. The only difference was a smidge more length in the mid irons with the AVX.
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  • Break81Break81 Broke80 Members  2037WRX Points: 90Handicap: 9.5Posts: 2,037 Platinum Tees
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    So someone ship me a Titleist Prestige and I will cut one open as well as an AVX. Both are 3 pc , 352 dimple urethane balls and has been stated by others is the same ball. Lets find out since the Prestige can be had for 1/2 the price of the AVX
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  • Z4ParZ4Par Members  439WRX Points: 17Handicap: 7.2Posts: 439 Greens
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    I have to lol at the few guys who think a ball is cutting their handicap in half. So somewhere between a 5 & 15 percent reduction in spin and 1-2* lower launch than the ProV1 is cutting handicaps in half? And those are just the things that titleist is claiming, no numbers I&#146;ve seen to even back it up yet. <br />
    <br />
    No those aren&#146;t numbers they are providing, those are just the claims they are making(lower launch and spin) and if true, roughly what the changes would be I would think. <br />
    <br />
    Most premium balls are so similar that you can&#146;t even tell the difference(especially if a blind test was done). And the ones that are different, are different by such a small amount that for 99.9% of golfers it would not equate to ANYWHERE close to a 50% reduction in handicap.
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    Whoah...hold on brotha..<br />
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    I never said only the AVX is cutting my handicap in half. Do I think the AVX shaves strokes around the course? Absolutely. Everyone is looking to shave some strokes in there golf game. This ball paired with the right player can do that; just like a ProV for the right player. Strokes when shaved continuously by a couple shots a round is substantial in my book. Let’s be clear. The ball is not the sole key to dropping my handicap from 12 to 5. But the AVX is certainly aiding in finding more fairways, longer iron play, and confidence in my short game and those keys certainly add up to less strokes and lower scoring.
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    Callaway Rogue Draw Driver (10 Degrees) 9 Degree setup at +1, Neutral Setting - Aldila Synergy 50 (60 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 4 Wood (17 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (68 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 3 Hybrid (19 Degrees), 4 Hybrid (21 Degrees), 5 Hybrid (24 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (75 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Titleist 718 AP3 6 Iron (28 Degrees) through PW (43 Degrees) and Wedge (48 Degrees) - AMT Black S300 - Standard
    Titleist SM6 - 52 Degree F Grind 8 Degree Bounce and 56 Degree F Grind 14 Degree Bounce - Project X 6.0 - Standard
    2018 TaylorMade Spider Tour Red Sightline
    Titleist AVX
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  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2914WRX Points: 787Posts: 2,914 Titanium Tees
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    Z4Par wrote:
    I have to lol at the few guys who think a ball is cutting their handicap in half. So somewhere between a 5 & 15 percent reduction in spin and 1-2* lower launch than the ProV1 is cutting handicaps in half? And those are just the things that titleist is claiming, no numbers I&#146;ve seen to even back it up yet. <br />
    <br />
    No those aren&#146;t numbers they are providing, those are just the claims they are making(lower launch and spin) and if true, roughly what the changes would be I would think. <br />
    <br />
    Most premium balls are so similar that you can&#146;t even tell the difference(especially if a blind test was done). And the ones that are different, are different by such a small amount that for 99.9% of golfers it would not equate to ANYWHERE close to a 50% reduction in handicap.
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    Whoah...hold on brotha..<br />
    <br />
    I never said only the AVX is cutting my handicap in half. Do I think the AVX shaves strokes around the course? Absolutely. Everyone is looking to shave some strokes in there golf game. This ball paired with the right player can do that; just like a ProV for the right player. Strokes when shaved continuously by a couple shots a round is substantial in my book. Let’s be clear. The ball is not the sole key to dropping my handicap from 12 to 5. But the AVX is certainly aiding in finding more fairways, longer iron play, and confidence in my short game and those keys certainly add up to less strokes and lower scoring.
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Like he said, if you took the Titleist logo off the ball there’s at least a hand full of balls you could play instead of the AVX and not tell a bit of difference and even if you could your score wouldn’t change because it’s that small.
    Posted:
  • Z4ParZ4Par Members  439WRX Points: 17Handicap: 7.2Posts: 439 Greens
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    BiggErn wrote:
    <br />
    Z4Par wrote:
    I have to lol at the few guys who think a ball is cutting their handicap in half. So somewhere between a 5 & 15 percent reduction in spin and 1-2* lower launch than the ProV1 is cutting handicaps in half? And those are just the things that titleist is claiming, no numbers I’ve seen to even back it up yet.<br />
    <br />
    No those aren’t numbers they are providing, those are just the claims they are making(lower launch and spin) and if true, roughly what the changes would be I would think.<br />
    <br />
    Most premium balls are so similar that you can’t even tell the difference(especially if a blind test was done). And the ones that are different, are different by such a small amount that for 99.9% of golfers it would not equate to ANYWHERE close to a 50% reduction in handicap.
    <br />
    <br />
    Whoah...hold on brotha..<br />
    <br />
    I never said only the AVX is cutting my handicap in half. Do I think the AVX shaves strokes around the course? Absolutely. Everyone is looking to shave some strokes in there golf game. This ball paired with the right player can do that; just like a ProV for the right player. Strokes when shaved continuously by a couple shots a round is substantial in my book. Let’s be clear. The ball is not the sole key to dropping my handicap from 12 to 5. But the AVX is certainly aiding in finding more fairways, longer iron play, and confidence in my short game and those keys certainly add up to less strokes and lower scoring.
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Like he said, if you took the Titleist logo off the ball there’s at least a hand full of balls you could play instead of the AVX and not tell a bit of difference and even if you could your score wouldn’t change because it’s that small.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    So, since you know my golf game so well through a golf forum can you tell me why a Wilson Duo is not my cup of tea as far as feel? Do you know what I feel when I hit a Wilson? Do you know what I feel when I hit an AVX? We both know you don't know. Only me.<br />
    <br />
    A blind ball test is mentioned and not being able to tell the differences. If I was to hit only 1 shot with 5 different balls there is no way I could make a conclusion from this type of experiment what ball would be the one for me; even if it was 5 shots per ball; blind test = worthless. Consistency is what matters in this game and you are not going to find that in a blind ball test. Consistency over many rounds with a golf ball and being comfortable with its nuances from other balls. Not doing/saying, ''Oh, I hit this one shot the best out of the 5 so this is the ball for me!'' You've gotta spend a lot of time with a golf ball (way more than a simple blind ball test) to really know its the one, to learn the nuances of it, and call it a gamer from there.
    Posted:
    Callaway Rogue Draw Driver (10 Degrees) 9 Degree setup at +1, Neutral Setting - Aldila Synergy 50 (60 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 4 Wood (17 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (68 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 3 Hybrid (19 Degrees), 4 Hybrid (21 Degrees), 5 Hybrid (24 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (75 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Titleist 718 AP3 6 Iron (28 Degrees) through PW (43 Degrees) and Wedge (48 Degrees) - AMT Black S300 - Standard
    Titleist SM6 - 52 Degree F Grind 8 Degree Bounce and 56 Degree F Grind 14 Degree Bounce - Project X 6.0 - Standard
    2018 TaylorMade Spider Tour Red Sightline
    Titleist AVX
  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2914WRX Points: 787Posts: 2,914 Titanium Tees
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    Z4Par wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:
    <br />
    Z4Par wrote:
    I have to lol at the few guys who think a ball is cutting their handicap in half. So somewhere between a 5 & 15 percent reduction in spin and 1-2* lower launch than the ProV1 is cutting handicaps in half? And those are just the things that titleist is claiming, no numbers I’ve seen to even back it up yet.<br />
    <br />
    No those aren’t numbers they are providing, those are just the claims they are making(lower launch and spin) and if true, roughly what the changes would be I would think.<br />
    <br />
    Most premium balls are so similar that you can’t even tell the difference(especially if a blind test was done). And the ones that are different, are different by such a small amount that for 99.9% of golfers it would not equate to ANYWHERE close to a 50% reduction in handicap.
    <br />
    <br />
    Whoah...hold on brotha..<br />
    <br />
    I never said only the AVX is cutting my handicap in half. Do I think the AVX shaves strokes around the course? Absolutely. Everyone is looking to shave some strokes in there golf game. This ball paired with the right player can do that; just like a ProV for the right player. Strokes when shaved continuously by a couple shots a round is substantial in my book. Let’s be clear. The ball is not the sole key to dropping my handicap from 12 to 5. But the AVX is certainly aiding in finding more fairways, longer iron play, and confidence in my short game and those keys certainly add up to less strokes and lower scoring.
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Like he said, if you took the Titleist logo off the ball there’s at least a hand full of balls you could play instead of the AVX and not tell a bit of difference and even if you could your score wouldn’t change because it’s that small.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    So, since you know my golf game so well through a golf forum can you tell me why a Wilson Duo is not my cup of tea as far as feel? Do you know what I feel when I hit a Wilson? Do you know what I feel when I hit an AVX? We both know you don't know. Only me.<br />
    <br />
    A blind ball test is mentioned and not being able to tell the differences. If I was to hit only 1 shot with 5 different balls there is no way I could make a conclusion from this type of experiment what ball would be the one for me; even if it was 5 shots per ball; blind test = worthless. Consistency is what matters in this game and you are not going to find that in a blind ball test. Consistency over many rounds with a golf ball and being comfortable with its nuances from other balls. Not doing/saying, ''Oh, I hit this one shot the best out of the 5 so this is the ball for me!'' You've gotta spend a lot of time with a golf ball (way more than a simple blind ball test) to really know its the one, to learn the nuances of it, and call it a gamer from there.
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    What brand clubs do you have?
    Posted:
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  • Z4ParZ4Par Members  439WRX Points: 17Handicap: 7.2Posts: 439 Greens
    Joined:  edited Jun 14, 2018 #301
    BiggErn wrote:
    <br />
    Z4Par wrote:
    BiggErn wrote:
    <br />
    Z4Par wrote:
    I have to lol at the few guys who think a ball is cutting their handicap in half. So somewhere between a 5 & 15 percent reduction in spin and 1-2* lower launch than the ProV1 is cutting handicaps in half? And those are just the things that titleist is claiming, no numbers I’ve seen to even back it up yet.<br />
    <br />
    No those aren’t numbers they are providing, those are just the claims they are making(lower launch and spin) and if true, roughly what the changes would be I would think.<br />
    <br />
    Most premium balls are so similar that you can’t even tell the difference(especially if a blind test was done). And the ones that are different, are different by such a small amount that for 99.9% of golfers it would not equate to ANYWHERE close to a 50% reduction in handicap.
    <br />
    <br />
    Whoah...hold on brotha..<br />
    <br />
    I never said only the AVX is cutting my handicap in half. Do I think the AVX shaves strokes around the course? Absolutely. Everyone is looking to shave some strokes in there golf game. This ball paired with the right player can do that; just like a ProV for the right player. Strokes when shaved continuously by a couple shots a round is substantial in my book. Let’s be clear. The ball is not the sole key to dropping my handicap from 12 to 5. But the AVX is certainly aiding in finding more fairways, longer iron play, and confidence in my short game and those keys certainly add up to less strokes and lower scoring.
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Like he said, if you took the Titleist logo off the ball there’s at least a hand full of balls you could play instead of the AVX and not tell a bit of difference and even if you could your score wouldn’t change because it’s that small.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    So, since you know my golf game so well through a golf forum can you tell me why a Wilson Duo is not my cup of tea as far as feel? Do you know what I feel when I hit a Wilson? Do you know what I feel when I hit an AVX? We both know you don't know. Only me.<br />
    <br />
    A blind ball test is mentioned and not being able to tell the differences. If I was to hit only 1 shot with 5 different balls there is no way I could make a conclusion from this type of experiment what ball would be the one for me; even if it was 5 shots per ball; blind test = worthless. Consistency is what matters in this game and you are not going to find that in a blind ball test. Consistency over many rounds with a golf ball and being comfortable with its nuances from other balls. Not doing/saying, ''Oh, I hit this one shot the best out of the 5 so this is the ball for me!'' You've gotta spend a lot of time with a golf ball (way more than a simple blind ball test) to really know its the one, to learn the nuances of it, and call it a gamer from there.
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    What brand clubs do you have?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    My signature lists all of my clubs. If you are trying to reference that I am partial to Titleist that's fine I guess. However, this is the first set of Titleist Irons/Wedges I have ever owned. And I've owned many clubs; Callaway and Taylormade was always in my bag prior to this set.<br />
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    EDIT:<br />
    <br />
    You know what though. I guess you can say I'm partial to the Titleist AP3's and AVX because they perform; meaning, I have the best chance of knowing what these clubs and ball are going to do over others I have tried. Just like I was partial to a Chrome Soft and Callaway irons for some time. And just like I was partial to a ProV for many years. Things can change and thats okay.
    Posted:
    Callaway Rogue Draw Driver (10 Degrees) 9 Degree setup at +1, Neutral Setting - Aldila Synergy 50 (60 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 4 Wood (17 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (68 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Callaway Rogue 3 Hybrid (19 Degrees), 4 Hybrid (21 Degrees), 5 Hybrid (24 Degrees) - Aldila Synergy 60 (75 Grams) Stiff - Standard
    Titleist 718 AP3 6 Iron (28 Degrees) through PW (43 Degrees) and Wedge (48 Degrees) - AMT Black S300 - Standard
    Titleist SM6 - 52 Degree F Grind 8 Degree Bounce and 56 Degree F Grind 14 Degree Bounce - Project X 6.0 - Standard
    2018 TaylorMade Spider Tour Red Sightline
    Titleist AVX
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