Anyone Care About Web.com Q School?

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  • q-schoolq-school Members Posts: 464 ✭✭
    I care!
  • f5joef5joe Posts: 313 ✭✭
    Rooting for Jonathan Hodge, my friend's son.
  • McCann1McCann1 Tour Player Members Posts: 1,723 ✭✭
    Creedo77 wrote:

    jholz wrote:


    It's clearly not the contest it once was, but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Q School.



    Living in East-Central Alabama, I was able to watch Pre-Qualifying and First and Second Stages a number of years in a row. Always interesting.



    So, anyone else following the action? Anyone know anybody in the field?



    As an Auburn alum, I will be pulling for Blayne Barber. War Eagle!




    I know Scottie Scheffler and Paul Haley well.....most people know Scottie from UT Golf and US Open low am two years ago. Paul is a great player as well
    Scottie and I were paired together in US Kids championship years ago. Like 100 degrees out and he’s the only wearing pants. My dad asked his why and he said if he wants to be a pro he needs to learn. We were like 8 years old
    Enjoy the chase.
  • jholzjholz Members Posts: 1,296 ✭✭
    Creedo77 wrote:


    Also....im tracking just about every player who makes it through as I'm looking to caddie at the first two events of the season in the Bahamas (and hopefully more events if I find bag). Once final stage is over I'm just hitting up every player I can find on social media to see who needs a loop




    Wow! Interesting.



    Best of luck and keep us posted.
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    McCann1 wrote:

    Creedo77 wrote:

    jholz wrote:


    It's clearly not the contest it once was, but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Q School.



    Living in East-Central Alabama, I was able to watch Pre-Qualifying and First and Second Stages a number of years in a row. Always interesting.



    So, anyone else following the action? Anyone know anybody in the field?



    As an Auburn alum, I will be pulling for Blayne Barber. War Eagle!




    I know Scottie Scheffler and Paul Haley well.....most people know Scottie from UT Golf and US Open low am two years ago. Paul is a great player as well
    Scottie and I were paired together in US Kids championship years ago. Like 100 degrees out and he's the only wearing pants. My dad asked his why and he said if he wants to be a pro he needs to learn. We were like 8 years old




    Thats hilarious. Some people just take it one notch more seriously.
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  • anthanth From the Land Down Under Members Posts: 2,760 ✭✭
    Blayne Barber always sounded like a pro wrestler to me...



    Anyway I’ll be interested to see how Min Woo Lee goes. Brother of Minjee Lee, still an amateur and an absolute bomber (although you wouldn’t know by looking at him)
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  • Creedo77Creedo77 Members Posts: 733 ✭✭
    McCann1 wrote:

    Creedo77 wrote:

    jholz wrote:


    It's clearly not the contest it once was, but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Q School.



    Living in East-Central Alabama, I was able to watch Pre-Qualifying and First and Second Stages a number of years in a row. Always interesting.



    So, anyone else following the action? Anyone know anybody in the field?



    As an Auburn alum, I will be pulling for Blayne Barber. War Eagle!




    I know Scottie Scheffler and Paul Haley well.....most people know Scottie from UT Golf and US Open low am two years ago. Paul is a great player as well
    Scottie and I were paired together in US Kids championship years ago. Like 100 degrees out and he's the only wearing pants. My dad asked his why and he said if he wants to be a pro he needs to learn. We were like 8 years old




    That was around the age I met Scottie. He had just joined Royal Oaks in Dallas and I was working there the summer I graduated HS, he was kind of like a little brother.



    We played golf together a lot that summer and everyone could tell at his age that he was something special. I havent talked to him in years so I'm hoping to run into him at some point this year. It was crazy to see him on a sponsor exemption at the Byron Nelson in 2014, and finishing so well. Really hope he does well on the web this year and earns his PGA card
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  • Creedo77Creedo77 Members Posts: 733 ✭✭
    jholz wrote:

    Creedo77 wrote:


    Also....im tracking just about every player who makes it through as I'm looking to caddie at the first two events of the season in the Bahamas (and hopefully more events if I find bag). Once final stage is over I'm just hitting up every player I can find on social media to see who needs a loop




    Wow! Interesting.



    Best of luck and keep us posted.




    Will do!



    Bit of a **** shoot at the moment
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  • jdljdl Masshole MassMembers Posts: 1,667 ✭✭
    Yes, have been following all along and will definitely be tracking the results this weekend.
  • jholzjholz Members Posts: 1,296 ✭✭
    jdl wrote:


    Yes, have been following all along and will definitely be tracking the results this weekend.




    I certainly wish they made the whole process easier to follow!
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  • jdljdl Masshole MassMembers Posts: 1,667 ✭✭
    jholz wrote:

    jdl wrote:


    Yes, have been following all along and will definitely be tracking the results this weekend.




    I certainly wish they made the whole process easier to follow!




    Yeah, the one feature I'd love to see is being able to find/search for a specific player, instead of having to go to each site and search the results/tee times. Same thing for the US Open or US Am qualifying.
  • jholzjholz Members Posts: 1,296 ✭✭
    jdl wrote:

    jholz wrote:

    jdl wrote:


    Yes, have been following all along and will definitely be tracking the results this weekend.




    I certainly wish they made the whole process easier to follow!




    Yeah, the one feature I'd love to see is being able to find/search for a specific player, instead of having to go to each site and search the results/tee times. Same thing for the US Open or US Am qualifying.




    Exactly!
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  • Creedo77Creedo77 Members Posts: 733 ✭✭
    @acaseofthegolf1 on twitter is a good follow for monday qualifiers and q school info
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  • md1mmd1m Members Posts: 782 ✭✭
    I follow every stage. Knew two players but neither one made it to the finals (one made it to second round and barely missed finals). Back to the Asian Tour for another year (where he almost won the last event) before he can try Q school again.
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  • lowheellowheel LOWHEEL Members Posts: 5,983 ✭✭
    jholz wrote:


    It's clearly not the contest it once was, but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Q School.



    Living in East-Central Alabama, I was able to watch Pre-Qualifying and First and Second Stages a number of years in a row. Always interesting.



    So, anyone else following the action? Anyone know anybody in the field?



    As an Auburn alum, I will be pulling for Blayne Barber. War Eagle!




    Says who?
  • Matt JMatt J Members Posts: 8,659 ✭✭
    lowheel wrote:

    jholz wrote:


    It's clearly not the contest it once was, but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Q School.



    Living in East-Central Alabama, I was able to watch Pre-Qualifying and First and Second Stages a number of years in a row. Always interesting.



    So, anyone else following the action? Anyone know anybody in the field?



    As an Auburn alum, I will be pulling for Blayne Barber. War Eagle!




    Says who?




    I was kind of thinking the same thing, but I get the point. It's not for a real card any more. It just gets you the chance to scrap it out against the hungriest 125 guys on the planet. I SO wish they would raise the purses for web and show more tv coverage. I think they should go to a Saturday start and finish on Tuesday.
  • jholzjholz Members Posts: 1,296 ✭✭
    edited Dec 6, 2018 #48
    leftyDH04 wrote:

    lowheel wrote:

    jholz wrote:


    It's clearly not the contest it once was, but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Q School.



    Living in East-Central Alabama, I was able to watch Pre-Qualifying and First and Second Stages a number of years in a row. Always interesting.



    So, anyone else following the action? Anyone know anybody in the field?



    As an Auburn alum, I will be pulling for Blayne Barber. War Eagle!




    Says who?




    I was kind of thinking the same thing, but I get the point. It's not for a real card any more. It just gets you the chance to scrap it out against the hungriest 125 guys on the planet. I SO wish they would raise the purses for web and show more tv coverage. I think they should go to a Saturday start and finish on Tuesday.




    I'm not trying to diminish anything - especially for anyone playing. It's still as tough or tougher in terms of the competition. There is still a season of golf on the line.



    Yet it isn't the big tour, and I think because of that the whole culture surrounding Q School changed.



    I think that makes coverage harder to market and sell. I would also argue that the pga has actively tried to diminish interest rather build it and I find that disppointing.



    I love Q School and wish it got the interest it deserves.
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    I have to agree with jholz somewhat. When they used to televise the final round you could feel or sense the pressure even watching on TV. It felt like Sunday of a major type pressure.



    Still pressure packed no doubt, but just different than when playing for a card on the big tour.



    I’ll watch or follow, but really don’t even see many familiar names this year.





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  • mocokidmocokid Members Posts: 1,710 ✭✭
    Is it being televised at all? Should be.....
  • jholzjholz Members Posts: 1,296 ✭✭
    mocokid wrote:


    Is it being televised at all? Should be.....




    That's a good question to which I do not know the answer. I follow here:



    https://pgatq.bluegolf.com/bluegolf/pgatq/schedulebg/index.htm
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    I'll be following Greg Yates. Had a couple classes with him at Texas A&M.




    He finished 2nd in our Club Championship this year...or maybe that was another Greg Yates...
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  • Body_VisionsBody_Visions Members Posts: 2,450 ✭✭
    leftyDH04 wrote:


    As a Bulldog I'm interested in Lee McCoy's play as a human not so much.




    Any particular reason for this?
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    I have to agree with jholz somewhat. When they used to televise the final round you could feel or sense the pressure even watching on TV. It felt like Sunday of a major type pressure.



    Still pressure packed no doubt, but just different than when playing for a card on the big tour.



    I’ll watch or follow, but really don’t even see many familiar names this year.




    I guess it's because I also follow college golf, but I see a bunch of names that I recognize.



    There's still some good drama on TV when they are showing the last web.com event prior to the finals and then the finals themselves. Probably not quite the same as previously, but still some shots that are tough to watch when someone has to get up and down or make a putt to just have a chance to get that card.
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    jdl wrote:



    I have to agree with jholz somewhat. When they used to televise the final round you could feel or sense the pressure even watching on TV. It felt like Sunday of a major type pressure.



    Still pressure packed no doubt, but just different than when playing for a card on the big tour.



    I’ll watch or follow, but really don’t even see many familiar names this year.




    I guess it's because I also follow college golf, but I see a bunch of names that I recognize.



    There's still some good drama on TV when they are showing the last web.com event prior to the finals and then the finals themselves. Probably not quite the same as previously, but still some shots that are tough to watch when someone has to get up and down or make a putt to just have a chance to get that card.




    That’s true. Still plenty of drama.



    I have heard several of the names, probably many from the college golf coverage like you said. I guess when I said familiar I meant more the kids who have played in our proam or are from the area (I use area in a very broad sense).
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  • jholzjholz Members Posts: 1,296 ✭✭
    jdl wrote:



    I have to agree with jholz somewhat. When they used to televise the final round you could feel or sense the pressure even watching on TV. It felt like Sunday of a major type pressure.



    Still pressure packed no doubt, but just different than when playing for a card on the big tour.



    I’ll watch or follow, but really don’t even see many familiar names this year.




    I guess it's because I also follow college golf, but I see a bunch of names that I recognize.



    There's still some good drama on TV when they are showing the last web.com event prior to the finals and then the finals themselves. Probably not quite the same as previously, but still some shots that are tough to watch when someone has to get up and down or make a putt to just have a chance to get that card.




    Q School's significance was transferred to the Web.com money list/finals, that's for sure. Just doesn't hold the potential for the Cinderella drama of Q School past.
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    jholz wrote:

    jdl wrote:



    I have to agree with jholz somewhat. When they used to televise the final round you could feel or sense the pressure even watching on TV. It felt like Sunday of a major type pressure.



    Still pressure packed no doubt, but just different than when playing for a card on the big tour.



    I’ll watch or follow, but really don’t even see many familiar names this year.




    I guess it's because I also follow college golf, but I see a bunch of names that I recognize.



    There's still some good drama on TV when they are showing the last web.com event prior to the finals and then the finals themselves. Probably not quite the same as previously, but still some shots that are tough to watch when someone has to get up and down or make a putt to just have a chance to get that card.




    Q School's significance was transferred to the Web.com money list/finals, that's for sure. Just doesn't hold the potential for the Cinderella drama of Q School past.




    I agree. I think because now they’re not playing for a spot on the top stage. When they finished top 25 and got THE card, they had arrived (at least for one year). It’s close now, but still not quite the same. There is still one more step to go.
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  • jdljdl Masshole MassMembers Posts: 1,667 ✭✭

    jholz wrote:

    jdl wrote:



    I have to agree with jholz somewhat. When they used to televise the final round you could feel or sense the pressure even watching on TV. It felt like Sunday of a major type pressure.



    Still pressure packed no doubt, but just different than when playing for a card on the big tour.



    I’ll watch or follow, but really don’t even see many familiar names this year.




    I guess it's because I also follow college golf, but I see a bunch of names that I recognize.



    There's still some good drama on TV when they are showing the last web.com event prior to the finals and then the finals themselves. Probably not quite the same as previously, but still some shots that are tough to watch when someone has to get up and down or make a putt to just have a chance to get that card.




    Q School's significance was transferred to the Web.com money list/finals, that's for sure. Just doesn't hold the potential for the Cinderella drama of Q School past.




    I agree. I think because now they’re not playing for a spot on the top stage. When they finished top 25 and got THE card, they had arrived (at least for one year). It’s close now, but still not quite the same. There is still one more step to go.




    No doubt the less attractive payoff diminishes it. So do we think this has been good for the game? Seems like it's definitely made the guys who get to the PGA tour from web.com more "ready" to do well on the big tour. Wonder what the data would say about the longevity of guys keeping their cards coming from web.com vs the old q-school path?
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    jdl wrote:


    jholz wrote:

    jdl wrote:



    I have to agree with jholz somewhat. When they used to televise the final round you could feel or sense the pressure even watching on TV. It felt like Sunday of a major type pressure.



    Still pressure packed no doubt, but just different than when playing for a card on the big tour.



    I’ll watch or follow, but really don’t even see many familiar names this year.




    I guess it's because I also follow college golf, but I see a bunch of names that I recognize.



    There's still some good drama on TV when they are showing the last web.com event prior to the finals and then the finals themselves. Probably not quite the same as previously, but still some shots that are tough to watch when someone has to get up and down or make a putt to just have a chance to get that card.




    Q School's significance was transferred to the Web.com money list/finals, that's for sure. Just doesn't hold the potential for the Cinderella drama of Q School past.




    I agree. I think because now they’re not playing for a spot on the top stage. When they finished top 25 and got THE card, they had arrived (at least for one year). It’s close now, but still not quite the same. There is still one more step to go.




    No doubt the less attractive payoff diminishes it. So do we think this has been good for the game? Seems like it's definitely made the guys who get to the PGA tour from web.com more "ready" to do well on the big tour. Wonder what the data would say about the longevity of guys keeping their cards coming from web.com vs the old q-school path?




    Purely from a non statistical standpoint (as in I’ve never looked at the numbers) it certainly makes sense the guys who come through the web season would be more ready. I’m guessing there are now a lot less “one and done” type players, but again, purely speculation on my part.
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  • mocokidmocokid Members Posts: 1,710 ✭✭
    edited Dec 6, 2018 #60
    I'm sorry but how many guys will make it? Top 20? OK found out it's the top 45............
  • Matt JMatt J Members Posts: 8,659 ✭✭
    mocokid wrote:


    I'm sorry but how many guys will make it? Top 20?




    It's not as clear cut as "make it" or not.



    Taken from the Web.com Wikipedia article:



    Also, starting in 2013, the PGA Tour's qualifying school grants playing rights only for the Web.com Tour.[13][14] The medalist is fully exempt on the Web.com Tour for the entire season. Those finishing in the top ten plus ties are exempt through the third reshuffle, or thirteen events. Players finishing 11th-45th are exempt through the second reshuffle after nine events and all remaining golfers have conditional status. One can also earn direct access to the Web.com Tour through a top-five finish on the Order of Merit on PGA Tour Canada, PGA Tour latinoamérica, or PGA Tour China. The money leader from each of those tours is fully exempt and those 2nd-5th are conditionally exempt.



    The little I've spoken with players on the Mackenzie Tour they start to figure it out there, but these reshuffles are all based on your finishes. Maybe some one with more experience than me can speak as to why the tours have adapted all these reshuffles? My .02 cents is that it seems to encourage the strongest field possible for every event. If you have a bad month or two, you're basically starting over.
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