Played behind a BIG hitter yesterday

tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

Playing at a local muni ... fourseome in front of us was waiting till the group in front of them was off greens before they drove ... finally, on the 6th hole, guy in front us waves up our twosome. He says ...

"Watch this ... here's why we have to wait so long to hit. This guys hits it 400 hundred." And he holds up 4 fingers, just in case we were too stupid to understand what 400 meant.

Well, the guy hit it 400 - about 175 forward and 225 to the right.

And this continued for the next 12 holes. Plus, the guy would often bring multiple club for tee shots - an iron, a "normal" driver, and his "long drive" driver.

On the 7th hole, he even went to the pro shop to get a drink, to show how long he had to wait before he could drive.

On one hole, he was literally 3 holes right of his own fairway ... honestly, the safest place to be would have been in the center of his fairway.

He hit one "good" drive ... on 17 .... it was dead straight, maybe 300. Unfortunately, the hole is a 90º dogleg.

Driver: TaylorMade M3, 10.5*
Hybrid: Titleist 816 H1, 19*
Long Iron: Ping iE1, 26*
Mid Iron: Ping iE1, 32*
Short Iron: Ping iE1, 41*
Wedge: Ping iE1, 45*
Gap: Ping Glide SS, 52*
Lob: Ping Glide ES, 60*
Putter: Yes Callie Mid, 41"
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Bag: Ping Mascot
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  • tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Funniest part was ... after the drive on 6, the guy's friend yells ...

    "DOWN THE MIDDLE?" - after it was obviously push-sliced off the planet ... and the guy simply says -

    "No, no it's not."

    Driver: TaylorMade M3, 10.5*
    Hybrid: Titleist 816 H1, 19*
    Long Iron: Ping iE1, 26*
    Mid Iron: Ping iE1, 32*
    Short Iron: Ping iE1, 41*
    Wedge: Ping iE1, 45*
    Gap: Ping Glide SS, 52*
    Lob: Ping Glide ES, 60*
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  • HatsForBatsHatsForBats Members Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    BIG mistake bragging on the BIG hitter who may not keep it on the planet. We have a guy like that in our club but he won't claim anywhere near 400 nor does he hit it near 400. Mostly it is other people talking about how long he hits it where he will chime in 'if it goes straight'. Nice guy. When he is on it is a thing of beauty but when he is off you just hope it stays on the course. Never talk up the BIG hitter with control issues until they hit one big.

  • McgeenoMcgeeno Members Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    My home course has a 300 yard par 4 with a ditch just short. Risk/reward for the truly long guys as its almost all carry to get there.

    The male ego/obliviousness truly shines here as this is where most of the traffic backs up when the 20 handicappers wait for the green to clear and don't even get it within 80 yards of the ditch.

  • HellstormHellstorm Members Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's easy to judge but who knows where to draw the line. If he hits one straight into the people in front, then they are upset. The people waiting are upset. The people 3 fairways over are upset. If he hits a house the home owners are upset. A guy just can't catch a break.

  • HatsForBatsHatsForBats Members Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @phatchrisrules said:
    Some people are such clowns and have literally no idea how far they hit the ball. Everyone under the age of 45 thinks they hit the ball "280-300" so when someone is longer than them they wet themselves a little thinking they just got paired with Rory, DJ, or Koepka. In reality, the people are lucky to hit it 250 let alone 280 and the person who is actually half way long is more in the 265-280 camp. Literally my life as a golf big box employee summed up in this one post. When they come in to "smack a few drivers" and see <250 they default automatically to the screen or camera being wrong and they proceed to tell you how they played this one hole and they had 100 yards left and the card says 450. I learned long ago to just smile and say yup, the machines are sometimes 10% short of what you would normally get and just walk away and let them think they are some big shot. Heaven forbid they ever buy a wedge from this decade though or spend more than $150 on a putter when most have no problems spending $300+ on a driver they slice just as poorly as they did the one before.

    What I get at my local big box store is jacked up numbers with my 7 iron suddenly carrying 20+ yards more than it does on the course.

  • HellstormHellstorm Members Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HatsForBats said:

    @phatchrisrules said:
    Some people are such clowns and have literally no idea how far they hit the ball. Everyone under the age of 45 thinks they hit the ball "280-300" so when someone is longer than them they wet themselves a little thinking they just got paired with Rory, DJ, or Koepka. In reality, the people are lucky to hit it 250 let alone 280 and the person who is actually half way long is more in the 265-280 camp. Literally my life as a golf big box employee summed up in this one post. When they come in to "smack a few drivers" and see <250 they default automatically to the screen or camera being wrong and they proceed to tell you how they played this one hole and they had 100 yards left and the card says 450. I learned long ago to just smile and say yup, the machines are sometimes 10% short of what you would normally get and just walk away and let them think they are some big shot. Heaven forbid they ever buy a wedge from this decade though or spend more than $150 on a putter when most have no problems spending $300+ on a driver they slice just as poorly as they did the one before.

    What I get at my local big box store is jacked up numbers with my 7 iron suddenly carrying 20+ yards more than it does on the course.

    Exactly....i thought those machines inflated the numbers to get you to like the clubs. They would never cheat you on distance or direction.

  • tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hellstorm said:
    It's easy to judge but who knows where to draw the line. If he hits one straight into the people in front, then they are upset. The people waiting are upset. The people 3 fairways over are upset. If he hits a house the home owners are upset. A guy just can't catch a break.

    As a golfer, you need to take some responsibility. You can't just rip away and have a ball flying every which way and not think there won't be consequences.

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    Wedge: Ping iE1, 45*
    Gap: Ping Glide SS, 52*
    Lob: Ping Glide ES, 60*
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  • YuckYuck Fore! Members Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I have also seen the opposite. The ball flies into a group 320 yards away, and the player says “I never hit it that far”. Who is more likely to hurt someone.?

  • MountainKingMountainKing Members Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I somewhat get him wanting to wait, but there's also that whole reading the room situation and perhaps he needs to just tee off with something else on a busy course. We have a guy in our group, who we've been trying to get into the long drive world, who will easily launch drives in the 350-400 range when he catches it. It's not always straight but it's generally in the boundaries of the hole we're playing on. If we're playing a busy course we finally told him that anything 420 and under he has to pull out a 4 iron and tee off with that unless he can figure out another way to not slow us down that doesn't involve killing the group in front of us.

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  • McgeenoMcgeeno Members Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Yuck said:
    I have also seen the opposite. The ball flies into a group 320 yards away, and the player says “I never hit it that far”. Who is more likely to hurt someone.?

    Over time? Probably the guy who sprays and prays on the course.

    Likely the guy hitting it 320 will never do it again.

  • Big BenBig Ben Members Posts: 9,131 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Jul 30, 2019 9:40pm #17

    Just don’t hit into people and keep pace! I’ve played with many many accomplished players and exactly 2 average 300yrs off the tee. These are Tour players as well. When you actually play with one of these guys your LONG drives will very quickly become what they are, 240yrs. Heck, it even sounds different!

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  • lookylookitzadamlookylookitzadam Members Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I played with a guy here in SD who carried his normal driver and his long drive driver that "he used solely for competition" but definitely had to show us "just once" on every par 5. The dude couldn't find a fairway with it but kept telling who he has long drive records of over 370 yards at sea level. All you can do sometimes is congratulate them and move on...I didnt want to spend 30 minutes waiting for him to try and connect on one that was really going to only get out there 250.

  • LeoLeo99LeoLeo99 Members Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hellstorm said:
    It's easy to judge but who knows where to draw the line. If he hits one straight into the people in front, then they are upset. The people waiting are upset. The people 3 fairways over are upset. If he hits a house the home owners are upset. A guy just can't catch a break.

    That used to be my problem. Age took care of that. Haven't hit a house in years.

  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Members Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hellstorm said:

    @HatsForBats said:

    @phatchrisrules said:
    Some people are such clowns and have literally no idea how far they hit the ball. Everyone under the age of 45 thinks they hit the ball "280-300" so when someone is longer than them they wet themselves a little thinking they just got paired with Rory, DJ, or Koepka. In reality, the people are lucky to hit it 250 let alone 280 and the person who is actually half way long is more in the 265-280 camp. Literally my life as a golf big box employee summed up in this one post. When they come in to "smack a few drivers" and see <250 they default automatically to the screen or camera being wrong and they proceed to tell you how they played this one hole and they had 100 yards left and the card says 450. I learned long ago to just smile and say yup, the machines are sometimes 10% short of what you would normally get and just walk away and let them think they are some big shot. Heaven forbid they ever buy a wedge from this decade though or spend more than $150 on a putter when most have no problems spending $300+ on a driver they slice just as poorly as they did the one before.

    What I get at my local big box store is jacked up numbers with my 7 iron suddenly carrying 20+ yards more than it does on the course.

    Exactly....i thought those machines inflated the numbers to get you to like the clubs. They would never cheat you on distance or direction.

    Nope, not at the store I worked at. I don't even think there is a setting to change the wind/elevation. Who is going to be more PO'd, the guy who drops $1000+ on an iron set that gets told he is hitting 7i 190 on the fly and goes out to play and everything is falling 25y of target or the guy who sees 245 on the screen total and buys the driver anyways and then outside suddenly gains their "yardage" back and just tells his buddies the screen is short? I'd much rather smile and nod than uselessly inflate an ego.

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  • phatchrisrulesphatchrisrules Members Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hellstorm said:

    @HatsForBats said:

    @phatchrisrules said:
    Some people are such clowns and have literally no idea how far they hit the ball. Everyone under the age of 45 thinks they hit the ball "280-300" so when someone is longer than them they wet themselves a little thinking they just got paired with Rory, DJ, or Koepka. In reality, the people are lucky to hit it 250 let alone 280 and the person who is actually half way long is more in the 265-280 camp. Literally my life as a golf big box employee summed up in this one post. When they come in to "smack a few drivers" and see <250 they default automatically to the screen or camera being wrong and they proceed to tell you how they played this one hole and they had 100 yards left and the card says 450. I learned long ago to just smile and say yup, the machines are sometimes 10% short of what you would normally get and just walk away and let them think they are some big shot. Heaven forbid they ever buy a wedge from this decade though or spend more than $150 on a putter when most have no problems spending $300+ on a driver they slice just as poorly as they did the one before.

    What I get at my local big box store is jacked up numbers with my 7 iron suddenly carrying 20+ yards more than it does on the course.

    Exactly....i thought those machines inflated the numbers to get you to like the clubs. They would never cheat you on distance or direction.

    Nope, not at the store I worked at. I don't even think there was a setting to tinker with the wind/elevation, or at least I never knew about it and used the machine for close to a decade. Who is going to be more PO'd, the person who bought an iron set and was told they are carrying 7i 180 but outside it falls woefully short all the time/someone buying a driver being told they gained 30 yards when they are still landing on the same spot/still close to the people they normal play with or the person who thinks they are a long hitter only to be shown not so much who then suddenly "gains their distance back" when they play outside? My money is the iron/driver guy being pretty PO'd versus the pseduo-ego-long-driver.

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  • macedanmacedan Members Posts: 328 ✭✭✭✭

    @Mcgeeno said:
    My home course has a 300 yard par 4 with a ditch just short. Risk/reward for the truly long guys as its almost all carry to get there.

    The male ego/obliviousness truly shines here as this is where most of the traffic backs up when the 20 handicappers wait for the green to clear and don't even get it within 80 yards of the ditch.

    At my father's home course there is a 270ish Par 4 with a bunker right off the fringe short of the green, maybe 5 yards wide total. Always backs up as everyone, literally 98% of players, pulls driver and waits for the green to clear......only to leave it short of the bunker or trickle in at most. To be fair if there is wind it's usually a headwind.

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  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a sort of opposite experience years ago, playing a solo round at an unfamiliar course. I caught up to a twosome who were waiting on all the foursomes ahead so they invited me to join up with them for the last 5-6 holes. I'm ashamed to say, being the uncharitable fellow that I am, I was kind of expecting them to hack it around. They simply didn't look like "golfers" but more like a couple guys in scruffy jeans sneaking out from work to play golf on a Tuesday afternoon.

    Turns out they were practicing for an upcoming alternate-shot tournament. So they were alternating shots (including the tee shots, not the kind where you both hit off the tee then pick one). The played those 5-6 holes in even par, one birdie and one bogey, which is amazing considering the format. One guy was a sort of musclebound ex-high-school lineman jock type, the other was a skinny guy about 5'6".

    Anyway, next to last hole was a slightly downhill Par 3 playing 160-something yards with a big bunker in front of the green. I've got a 7-wood in my hand because I wanted no part of that bunker. The big guy hits one right over the flagstick, flies the green and ends up on a steep bank leading up to the next tee. He hit that shot at least 180 in the air and tells his partner, "Pitching wedge". So i go back and grab a 5-iron which of course I plug under the lip of the bunker.

    The skinny guy tells me, "Don't ever, ever pay attention to what club this guys uses. He's a beast".

    Gee, thanks for the advice...30 seconds too late.

    Rest of the story. The skinny guy plays a Mickelson full-swing lob wedge off the downslope of the embankment (out of 2" rough) and hits it to 10 feet. The big guy makes the putt. Ho-hum, another par.

    And there I was thinking they were going to be a couple of Gomers. Yikes! Lesson learned. I have met the Gomer and he is Me.

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  • RSinSGRSinSG ClubWRX Posts: 3,196 ClubWRX

    I played in a two day higher end charity scramble and one buddy said he got his nephew who is a “competitor in the Remax long drive circuit” to play with us. The guy is around 30, 6’3” or so and has a bag with a normal Callaway driver and a Krank driver for competition.

    If you’ve ever watched the long drive competitions you know where this is going. In two days we used one of his drives. Granted it was when he drove the fringe on a 405 hole, but other than a 280 yard par 4 hole he hit with an iron he could have stayed home. Control was non existent and I cringed every time he hit a drive. No one on the course was safe.

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  • ctsgolfctsgolf Members Posts: 181 ✭✭✭

    That group would have received a few warning shots.

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  • tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @lookylookitzadam said:
    I played with a guy here in SD who carried his normal driver and his long drive driver that "he used solely for competition" but definitely had to show us "just once" on every par 5. The dude couldn't find a fairway with it but kept telling who he has long drive records of over 370 yards at sea level. All you can do sometimes is congratulate them and move on...I didnt want to spend 30 minutes waiting for him to try and connect on one that was really going to only get out there 250.

    I have played with these guys before ... before the round they state something to the effect of "I'm not hitting driver today, this course just isn't long enough."

    And then, multiple times, during the round they act like we've been begging him to hit and say "I guess I'll just hit it once ... you know, to let the big dog eat."

    And they crank one OB.

    I've played with BIG HITTERS ... guys that rip it 350 routinely. And they don't say a thing. They just hit.

    Driver: TaylorMade M3, 10.5*
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  • dcfasdcfas Tempus Fugit Members Posts: 915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It astonishes me that anyone could hit a golf ball 400 yards. Just standing on a tee, looking out to the green, it seems impossible. Yet I know people do it. Amazing.

  • buckeyeflbuckeyefl Members Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @phatchrisrules said:
    Some people are such clowns and have literally no idea how far they hit the ball. Everyone under the age of 45 thinks they hit the ball "280-300" so when someone is longer than them they wet themselves a little thinking they just got paired with Rory, DJ, or Koepka. In reality, the people are lucky to hit it 250 let alone 280 and the person who is actually half way long is more in the 265-280 camp. Literally my life as a golf big box employee summed up in this one post. When they come in to "smack a few drivers" and see <250 they default automatically to the screen or camera being wrong and they proceed to tell you how they played this one hole and they had 100 yards left and the card says 450. I learned long ago to just smile and say yup, the machines are sometimes 10% short of what you would normally get and just walk away and let them think they are some big shot. Heaven forbid they ever buy a wedge from this decade though or spend more than $150 on a putter when most have no problems spending $300+ on a driver they slice just as poorly as they did the one before.

    I'm pretty sure I have a crush on you.

  • diablocrusherdiablocrusher Members Posts: 184 ✭✭✭

    @phatchrisrules said:
    Some people are such clowns and have literally no idea how far they hit the ball. Everyone under the age of 45 thinks they hit the ball "280-300" so when someone is longer than them they wet themselves a little thinking they just got paired with Rory, DJ, or Koepka. In reality, the people are lucky to hit it 250 let alone 280 and the person who is actually half way long is more in the 265-280 camp. Literally my life as a golf big box employee summed up in this one post. When they come in to "smack a few drivers" and see <250 they default automatically to the screen or camera being wrong and they proceed to tell you how they played this one hole and they had 100 yards left and the card says 450. I learned long ago to just smile and say yup, the machines are sometimes 10% short of what you would normally get and just walk away and let them think they are some big shot. Heaven forbid they ever buy a wedge from this decade though or spend more than $150 on a putter when most have no problems spending $300+ on a driver they slice just as poorly as they did the one before.

    This is 100% correct here. I know it's the WRX way so some won't buy it, but I do hit the ball longer than the average golfer. (I know, I know, everyone here hits its over 300) I usually get one good drive a round up near around 300 or over with the rollout but I typically drive the ball around 280ish give or take when I hit it solid. I used to play a lot of rounds by myself so I've been paired up with strangers quite a few times.

    It's amazing how many guys you run into on the golf course who truly think they drive the ball 270-300 yards. I once played with a guy that after I hit a good drive and we got up to my ball he said: "wow you must've hit that 340, 350". I reply to him, no that's more like 280ish. He says "no way it can't be, I usually drive it 270 and you're 40 yards past me! I pull out my range finder and laser the cart sitting next to the tee box we just came from......277 yards away.

    I pretty much deflated his sails and his ego for the rest of his golfing career.

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  • lookylookitzadamlookylookitzadam Members Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tatertot said:

    @lookylookitzadam said:
    I played with a guy here in SD who carried his normal driver and his long drive driver that "he used solely for competition" but definitely had to show us "just once" on every par 5. The dude couldn't find a fairway with it but kept telling who he has long drive records of over 370 yards at sea level. All you can do sometimes is congratulate them and move on...I didnt want to spend 30 minutes waiting for him to try and connect on one that was really going to only get out there 250.

    I have played with these guys before ... before the round they state something to the effect of "I'm not hitting driver today, this course just isn't long enough."

    And then, multiple times, during the round they act like we've been begging him to hit and say "I guess I'll just hit it once ... you know, to let the big dog eat."

    And they crank one OB.

    I've played with BIG HITTERS ... guys that rip it 350 routinely. And they don't say a thing. They just hit.

    Exactly. The more someone talks about their game or what "they normally can do" the more I know the are full of it.

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