Blade users thread (NO DEBATING CLUBHEADS! NO Buy Sell Trade!)

[craz-e]

I have good access to Miura product, so I can afford some playing around.

 

One of Kaaayelll's many fine qualities is that he shares his "access" with friends. My Miura BB, Masda Proto, Hogan FW15 from top to bottom (first picture) and left to right (second picture).

 

Thanks for sharing, day just got better after viewing those sexy clubs

[Bomber_berry]

Low handicap golfer aswell been playing blades for the last 10years first with the old Cleveland cg1 and then Nike vr blades witch iam still using now and no idea what to try next

[dog flog]

LOL Biggie my friend I told you what happens when you go to CBs. Enjoy your 'honeymoon phase' with them. You may *like* the numb feedback from CBs now but I'm gonna bet that is gonna lose some luster over time. The blissful feel/feedback of BBs is a curse as well as a blessing.

 

Change of pace bro, no BBs on BST or ebay from me, let's calm down lol.

 

That's like saying you need to 'change the pace' from sleeping with a porn star or supermodel by going on platonic dates with backpage.com women. Not judging, just saying.

A Ho never goes on platonic dates. The president of the blade club might continue effin with cavities. How can you complain, after all, you voted for him.

 

Sorry, sometimes I can't resist the needle.

[dog flog]

I have good access to Miura product, so I can afford some playing around.

 

One of Kaaayelll's many fine qualities is that he shares his "access" with friends. My Miura BB, Masda Proto, Hogan FW15 from top to bottom (first picture) and left to right (second picture).

The Masdas are a good fit for anyone with a rotary swing.

[DeNinny]

LOL Biggie my friend I told you what happens when you go to CBs. Enjoy your 'honeymoon phase' with them. You may *like* the numb feedback from CBs now but I'm gonna bet that is gonna lose some luster over time. The blissful feel/feedback of BBs is a curse as well as a blessing.

 

Change of pace bro, no BBs on BST or ebay from me, let's calm down lol.

 

That's like saying you need to 'change the pace' from sleeping with a porn star or supermodel by going on platonic dates with backpage.com women. Not judging, just saying.

A Ho never goes on platonic dates. The president of the blade club might continue effin with cavities. How can you complain, after all, you voted for him.

 

Sorry, sometimes I can't resist the needle.

 

Ok, ok. My bad. So it is more like dry humping backpage.com "dates".

[Mitchell]

I have good access to Miura product, so I can afford some playing around. ��

 

One of Kaaayelll's many fine qualities is that he shares his "access" with friends. My Miura BB, Masda Proto, Hogan FW15 from top to bottom (first picture) and left to right (second picture).

The Masdas are a good fit for anyone with a rotary swing.

I see what you did there??

[Bigmean]

LOL Biggie my friend I told you what happens when you go to CBs. Enjoy your 'honeymoon phase' with them. You may *like* the numb feedback from CBs now but I'm gonna bet that is gonna lose some luster over time. The blissful feel/feedback of BBs is a curse as well as a blessing.

 

Change of pace bro, no BBs on BST or ebay from me, let's calm down lol.

 

That's like saying you need to 'change the pace' from sleeping with a porn star or supermodel by going on platonic dates with backpage.com women. Not judging, just saying.

A Ho never goes on platonic dates. The president of the blade club might continue effin with cavities. How can you complain, after all, you voted for him.

 

Sorry, sometimes I can't resist the needle.

 

Whoa, whoa, I don't recall an election........I am totally guilty of actually taking a little pride in starting and maintaining the best thread on the most unstable topic on this forum though, but that aside it is equal participants.

While your needling is always welcome, your jab this time is old news. I have run through 3 sets of cbs since starting this thread, 4 if you count my 501/mb001 combo set, this would be number 5. If you go back a few hundred pages you can see how this story ends, but I have always been about a set of each, but that is just me. Plus, I am sick of dealing with it which is why I didn't spend money on some badass JDM cbs and I am not going to boot the staffs over things I don't like so far. I am sure I could make the same comments about all the pro CB instigators effing with blades sets as their change of pace bag.......Oh wait that's right the ones that it is the ones accusing those for being zealots who are not nearly as open minded as where their finger is pointing....irony is fun. Great call on masdas BTW, that is one of better posts recently, A+ stuff!

 

 

So I really jumped on because I had to get off of yahoo auction. Dogflog you are correct sir in your HO name calling. I seriously am contemplating making a putter run. I have never seen so many items of interest listed at the same time, like I had to get off the site, I could buy 5 putters on there without any regrets and combine ship them back. I need to re evaluate the current listings but this is the first time since I was looking at the T woods Miuras that I have contemplated using my brothers CC with my PayPal to keep it under the wife radar and just pull trigger on 3-5..........

[DeNinny]

So I wanna know. Is there one blade user out there that has NEVER tried playing CBs? Is there a blade user that is "pure of blade heart" and has never been tainted by the carney allure of "forgiveness"?

 

If you are this blade user, I would like to know if you exist.

[NRJyzr]

Is there one blade user out there that has NEVER tried playing CBs?

 

I only know it's not me. Even after I switched, I've tried plenty of CBs. :)

 

In only mildly related news, I've been giving thought to rounding up a different set of graphite shafts and installing them in one of my Golden Ram sets. I've been bitten by the club work bug again.

 

Toying with a new shaft for my LTD.... bought a King F6 3/4 wood and added a second weight to play it at 42"... randomly picked up an R9 SuperDeep, threw heavier weights in it and cut it down to 43½" last night in order to try it as a tester to see if it's worth doing similar with my LTD... built an entirely new iron set for my wife, going slightly overlength for a men's set (she's 5'9", uses 10 finger grip, and back issues) for her... bought an Adams Pro 18° hybrid for no good reason... bought a putter shaft for my Mizuno TP Mills putter to go back to 34½" or 35" length...

 

oh! the humanity!!

 

Working on your own clubs is a slippery slope, that's for sure.

[Sir edward of putternut]

DO you have copper plated BBs??? What is that finish?N

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rd, I was a tad worried that the 130g shafts may throw off my feel since at this point I am 2 years with the BBs and 115g 1150 tours, but yesterday was a good enough striking day to comment some. The weight difference even when rotating back and forth was negligable, other than the SW feels like more with my BBs and I may lead tape the Staffs but way early for that kind of fine tuning. I was at a PGA sup store the other day and hit the staff 7 iron with the DG pro, and the 130s feel tangibly nicer, so super pumped on that. They may add some to the dead feeling, but in general I can't emphasize enough how much different the feedback really is between the staffs (again, smallish forged players CB without much "forgiveness", it is stunning how back to back the BBs instantly tell you where you are and how "dead" the staffs are in a striaght comparison).

 

As far as flight, my new swing moves are giving me a higher flight, even with my X100 in gap wedge. The 130s though give me a strong flight, very similar to DGS300, maybe a tad higher but I was also hitting into a good 15MPH steady headwind, so I can't say for sure, and I still hit the 1150s more piercing but I think that is the BB head more than the shaft. I like them more than the 120s, they feel less lose to me. I feel like they are alot closer to a dgs300 than the 120s, in terms of flight I like them, I don't have a violent swing (working on a less handsy start to down swing though that can be aggressive) so I get along with alot of shafts except I hate KBS tours and at this point there is no reason to not play nippons over DG since they are really good on flight and accuracy and the feel is truly night and day to me, I prefer 120/125/130 modus and 1150s over pretty much everything but I definitely like the the 130s over the 120s and 125s I have played in the past. I did have a tendency to go a little left yesterday with them over my miuras, but again, heads and working on swing, I will say that my push fades when I chicken winged a few did seem to go stronger than that shot usually does for me, still a weak terrible shot, but they carried better and didn't go as far right as I can hit them.

 

I am sure that is all vague, but you asked specifically about them to DGS300 and I think that is apt as they seem to be a better comparison flight wise to the 300s vs say the 120s. Again, I am 3 range trips and working on a new tempo/sync more than swing with new clubs so I guess the best I can do is say they are VERY comfortable in flight and direction.

 

Sorry, I'm at work so maybe this was addressed...the 130 nippons are actually the lightweight shafts of the modus tour 3 bunch and play at about 124, the 120s are 2nd, and the 125s are the heaviest if I remember correctly....they are, imo, waaaayyyy different than s300dgs in every category I can think of...i love the feel if the nippons, I have 130s in mp64s, 120s in 714 ap2s and j40 cbs, and put 125s in 710mbs to test all three with available heads...i was left thinking, with all three, they play lighter than expected....smoothest shafts I've played, However, with the 130 And 120, my dispersion was pretty off, while the 125s reminded me, just to equate with something, of a project x dispersion with a tad less of the smoothness of the other 2, yet I played best with it (also 710 mbs!)

I'm currently putting 130s in my mp4s to see how that chimera roars...

 

Edit add: 120s in the long irons are near perfect...when I got to the 6 iron though, I noticed a pretty high ball flight which continued in the scoring irons that always seemed to leave me just a little further from the cup than I was used to.

130s we're oddly harder for me to get right at first, the 120s we're kinda an off to the races experience, but I did grow to prefer them...though is put the 125s in my preferred set since they seem to fit my game more

[Kingcat990]

I put the 120's in my irons just because of how well they play in the longer irons. So I'd say you hit the nail on the head with that statement.

[Nard_S]

Is there one blade user out there that has NEVER tried playing CBs?

 

I only know it's not me. Even after I switched, I've tried plenty of CBs. :)

 

In only mildly related news, I've been giving thought to rounding up a different set of graphite shafts and installing them in one of my Golden Ram sets. I've been bitten by the club work bug again.

 

Toying with a new shaft for my LTD.... bought a King F6 3/4 wood and added a second weight to play it at 42"... randomly picked up an R9 SuperDeep, threw heavier weights in it and cut it down to 43½" last night in order to try it as a tester to see if it's worth doing similar with my LTD... built an entirely new iron set for my wife, going slightly overlength for a men's set (she's 5'9", uses 10 finger grip, and back issues) for her... bought an Adams Pro 18° hybrid for no good reason... bought a putter shaft for my Mizuno TP Mills putter to go back to 34½" or 35" length...

 

oh! the humanity!!

 

Working on your own clubs is a slippery slope, that's for sure.

 

My favorite club to swing right now is the R 510 TP that I could not hit worth a damn last year. It has 43 1/2" Speeder 60g shaft. It is a blast to nail. The shorter shaft, the smaller head and a nice sweet spot is putting the club in the bag.

[NRJyzr]

Is there one blade user out there that has NEVER tried playing CBs?

 

I only know it's not me. Even after I switched, I've tried plenty of CBs. :)

 

In only mildly related news, I've been giving thought to rounding up a different set of graphite shafts and installing them in one of my Golden Ram sets. I've been bitten by the club work bug again.

 

Toying with a new shaft for my LTD.... bought a King F6 3/4 wood and added a second weight to play it at 42"... randomly picked up an R9 SuperDeep, threw heavier weights in it and cut it down to 43½" last night in order to try it as a tester to see if it's worth doing similar with my LTD... built an entirely new iron set for my wife, going slightly overlength for a men's set (she's 5'9", uses 10 finger grip, and back issues) for her... bought an Adams Pro 18° hybrid for no good reason... bought a putter shaft for my Mizuno TP Mills putter to go back to 34½" or 35" length...

 

oh! the humanity!!

 

Working on your own clubs is a slippery slope, that's for sure.

 

My favorite club to swing right now is the R 510 TP that I could not hit worth a damn last year. It has 43 1/2" Speeder 60g shaft. It is a blast to nail. The shorter shaft, the smaller head and a nice sweet spot is putting the club in the bag.

 

I think the equipment companies have done us a grave disservice in making the "standard" driver length as long as it currently is. 44" is probably as long as most folks need to go (there are always exceptions, of course).

 

I've already got a bag of cotton balls to start stuffing my LTD clubhead to bring the weight up. If I decide to do it, it will be the ProtoPype 80 that will be chopped to bring the club to 43½".

 

/end soapbox rant

(lol)

[DeNinny]

I'd be really interested in how all these newer drivers perform compared to past generations based on a fixed length. All other things equal, the longer club will hit the ball longer and with more error. (DUH!)

 

Lengthening a club and then claiming the head "technology" is why it hits the ball longer is no different than claiming an iron head's "tech" is longer when it is the LOFT THAT IS JACKED.

[Kingcat990]

Has anyone here ever hit a driver less than 9° of loft? I tried a 7.5° once. I didnt have the SS to elevate it properly. Was an absolute crap fest of a day. I remember punching one straight at 2 o'clock and the ball hitting a pine tree, aggressively propelling it right back to me and 60 yards behind the tee box. Took a 9, on a par 4. May have been the lowest point of my amateur career.

 

Speaking on our resident engineers last post; I've gamed drivers at 46¼ and 43½. Pretty much all have been 9°-10.5° and have ALWAYS found the sub 44" drivers to be equally as long and significantly easier to control for my 5'8" 180lb frame.

[DeNinny]

Kingcat you are only longer with the shorter driver because you hit it more accurately. A longer driver has the POTENTIAL to go longer, but only when you hit it just as accurately as a shorter one.

[Oldplayer]

Is there one blade user out there that has NEVER tried playing CBs?

 

I only know it's not me. Even after I switched, I've tried plenty of CBs. :)

 

In only mildly related news, I've been giving thought to rounding up a different set of graphite shafts and installing them in one of my Golden Ram sets. I've been bitten by the club work bug again.

 

Toying with a new shaft for my LTD.... bought a King F6 3/4 wood and added a second weight to play it at 42"... randomly picked up an R9 SuperDeep, threw heavier weights in it and cut it down to 43½" last night in order to try it as a tester to see if it's worth doing similar with my LTD... built an entirely new iron set for my wife, going slightly overlength for a men's set (she's 5'9", uses 10 finger grip, and back issues) for her... bought an Adams Pro 18° hybrid for no good reason... bought a putter shaft for my Mizuno TP Mills putter to go back to 34½" or 35" length...

 

oh! the humanity!!

 

Working on your own clubs is a slippery slope, that's for sure.

 

My favorite club to swing right now is the R 510 TP that I could not hit worth a damn last year. It has 43 1/2" Speeder 60g shaft. It is a blast to nail. The shorter shaft, the smaller head and a nice sweet spot is putting the club in the bag.

 

I think the equipment companies have done us a grave disservice in making the "standard" driver length as long as it currently is. 44" is probably as long as most folks need to go (there are always exceptions, of course).

 

I've already got a bag of cotton balls to start stuffing my LTD clubhead to bring the weight up. If I decide to do it, it will be the ProtoPype 80 that will be chopped to bring the club to 43½".

 

/end soapbox rant

(lol)

Very few pro's play driver over 44 1/2" in length.

[Kingcat990]

Kingcat you are only longer with the shorter driver because you hit it more accurately. A longer driver has the POTENTIAL to go longer, but only when you hit it just as accurately as a shorter one.

 

You put a 46" driver in my hands and I'll show you a flight path that would remind an aerospace engineer of the first test rockets from the 50's.

[Sir edward of putternut]

Has anyone here ever hit a driver less than 9° of loft? I tried a 7.5° once. I didnt have the SS to elevate it properly. Was an absolute crap fest of a day. I remember punching one straight at 2 o'clock and the ball hitting a pine tree, aggressively propelling it right back to me and 60 yards behind the tee box. Took a 9, on a par 4. May have been the lowest point of my amateur career.

 

Speaking on our resident engineers last post; I've gamed drivers at 46¼ and 43½. Pretty much all have been 9°-10.5° and have ALWAYS found the sub 44" drivers to be equally as long and significantly easier to control for my 5'8" 180lb frame.

 

I play my Nike flex at 8.5 now

[cb24]

Well I am very close to pulling the trigger on a set of srixonz965 irons with DGs300. Was surprised that they gave me the best results and feel but the head and shaft combo is awesome. Probably going to order with midsize UTX grips and standard everything.

 

Anyone else playing the Srixons?

[3riC]

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Yeah, and I really don't want to hear anyone talk about their feedback from cbs being almost as good as blades. I can see a lot of guys preferring the CB feel and that is all good, I was getting used to it yesterday, but you can't hit one next to the other and make that case.

 

+1 this^

 

it's funny how feel is so subjective. Some people say CB and MB are very similar. But coming from CB501 to Small Blades, hand on my heart i can say it's day & night.

 

Don't get me wrong, the CB501 weren't bricks but blades are just different. I told my friend recently, everybody should get a set of blades just to appreciate it.

 

Maybe it won't be your competition set or your goto clubs to shoot 69 but it's worth the $$ just so you can feel the difference and compare

[3riC]

Well I am very close to pulling the trigger on a set of srixonz965 irons with DGs300. Was surprised that they gave me the best results and feel but the head and shaft combo is awesome. Probably going to order with midsize UTX grips and standard everything.

 

Anyone else playing the Srixons?

 

Test drove them a few weeks ago, loved it.

 

I think z9965 would be my #1 non-JDM choice these days (previously it was MP5)

[3riC]

Has anyone here ever hit a driver less than 9° of loft? I tried a 7.5° once. I didnt have the SS to elevate it properly. Was an absolute crap fest of a day. I remember punching one straight at 2 o'clock and the ball hitting a pine tree, aggressively propelling it right back to me and 60 yards behind the tee box. Took a 9, on a par 4. May have been the lowest point of my amateur career.

 

Speaking on our resident engineers last post; I've gamed drivers at 46¼ and 43½. Pretty much all have been 9°-10.5° and have ALWAYS found the sub 44" drivers to be equally as long and significantly easier to control for my 5'8" 180lb frame.

 

yeah i have a 9deg drive dialed to 8deg. have zero problems airing it. BUT my driver swing is flawed. 8deg drive (stock shaft) and i still hit a high cut.

 

had a lesson recently with Trackman, this was best drive of them all and it was still pretty bad.....hence the lesson i guess hah

 

(how do i upload images on this forum?)

[mahonie]

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Yeah, and I really don't want to hear anyone talk about their feedback from cbs being almost as good as blades. I can see a lot of guys preferring the CB feel and that is all good, I was getting used to it yesterday, but you can't hit one next to the other and make that case.

 

+1 this^

 

it's funny how feel is so subjective. Some people say CB and MB are very similar. But coming from CB501 to Small Blades, hand on my heart i can say it's day & night.

 

Don't get me wrong, the CB501 weren't bricks but blades are just different. I told my friend recently, everybody should get a set of blades just to appreciate it.

 

Maybe it won't be your competition set or your goto clubs to shoot 69 but it's worth the $$ just so you can feel the difference and compare

 

Some of the feel difference between CBS and MBs can be attributed to the materials in the clubheads and also the shape. At address there is hardly any difference between my MP4s and my Mac MT Pro Cs. The Macs feel quite a bit softer than the Mizzys except on shots hit right out of the middle when I cannot tell the difference. The other week I was at the range playing one set against the other, 5, 7 and 9 irons. I had 10 balls left and reached for what I thought was the Mizzy 5 iron to finish off. Now at this stage of the session, I was pretty loose and hitting well. Aiming for the flag at 180 yards, I hit all 10 balls pretty close and off the button. It was only when I put the club back in my bag that I noticed it was the Mac. Having said that, I prefer the more 'solid' feel of the Mizzys, the Macs are a very good 'change of pace' set, although the actual change is very slight. As they are set up exactly the same way (shafts, grips, length, loft and lie) that shouldn't be a surprise really.

[DeNinny]

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Yeah, and I really don't want to hear anyone talk about their feedback from cbs being almost as good as blades. I can see a lot of guys preferring the CB feel and that is all good, I was getting used to it yesterday, but you can't hit one next to the other and make that case.

 

+1 this^

 

it's funny how feel is so subjective. Some people say CB and MB are very similar. But coming from CB501 to Small Blades, hand on my heart i can say it's day & night.

 

Don't get me wrong, the CB501 weren't bricks but blades are just different. I told my friend recently, everybody should get a set of blades just to appreciate it.

 

Maybe it won't be your competition set or your goto clubs to shoot 69 but it's worth the $$ just so you can feel the difference and compare

 

Some of the feel difference between CBS and MBs can be attributed to the materials in the clubheads and also the shape. At address there is hardly any difference between my MP4s and my Mac MT Pro Cs. The Macs feel quite a bit softer than the Mizzys except on shots hit right out of the middle when I cannot tell the difference. The other week I was at the range playing one set against the other, 5, 7 and 9 irons. I had 10 balls left and reached for what I thought was the Mizzy 5 iron to finish off. Now at this stage of the session, I was pretty loose and hitting well. Aiming for the flag at 180 yards, I hit all 10 balls pretty close and off the button. It was only when I put the club back in my bag that I noticed it was the Mac. Having said that, I prefer the more 'solid' feel of the Mizzys, the Macs are a very good 'change of pace' set, although the actual change is very slight. As they are set up exactly the same way (shafts, grips, length, loft and lie) that shouldn't be a surprise really.

 

ALL of the differences in feel and feedback are from either a material change or a shape change. It really is this simple. Feedback and feel are from the literal way the molecules of the entire club vibrate in relation to one another. This is what the hands literally feel both during and just after impact. Change the material(s), including the quality, different feel. Change the shape of the club, also different feel.

 

In other words, if ANYTHING changes between the ball and golfer's hands, the feel and feedback WILL be different and the magnitude of the difference will be related and proportional to how much the two clubs are different.

 

BUT...having said that...*if* you are the insensitive type, then you may not notice any differences in feel. You are literally too insensitive!!!

[bodhi555]

Has anyone here ever hit a driver less than 9° of loft? I tried a 7.5° once. I didnt have the SS to elevate it properly. Was an absolute crap fest of a day. I remember punching one straight at 2 o'clock and the ball hitting a pine tree, aggressively propelling it right back to me and 60 yards behind the tee box. Took a 9, on a par 4. May have been the lowest point of my amateur career.

 

Speaking on our resident engineers last post; I've gamed drivers at 46¼ and 43½. Pretty much all have been 9°-10.5° and have ALWAYS found the sub 44" drivers to be equally as long and significantly easier to control for my 5'8" 180lb frame.

 

I do still have a 7.5" Hawkeye Pro Series in the garage, never had too many issues getting it airborne, keeping it straight - now that was the issue. I did experiment with the Covert set to 8.5" Neutral, but again had issues keeping it straight. Dialled it back to 9.5" and it was much better, with a lovely penetrating flight. Admittedly the 8.5" experiment was done when it was fitted with the original Kuro Kage, which was far too soft for me anyway, so I might try again now it has a Blueboard fitted.

 

Have mananged to get out on the course every day since last Thursday, just getting my game up to the same speed as my swing after the winter lay off, Did 9 holes with 2 balls last night, first ball I ended up 5 over (gross), the 2nd ball was one under! Absolutely nutted some irons in the process, particularly a 6 iron on the 7th that finished 4 feet away. Also the fist time I've been able to try the Nike RZN Blacks I stockpiled over winter after Nike pulled out - my word they are great balls. Incredibly stable in the wind, soft enough round the greens you can control the roll, but not so soft with the putter you feel like you're hitting a marshmallow (Pro V1 and Chrome Soft take a bow). I've found a few places that still have them in stock, so may be purchasing more. It's just whether to stock up on the white ones or the Volt Yellow ones :)

[Bigmean]

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Yeah, and I really don't want to hear anyone talk about their feedback from cbs being almost as good as blades. I can see a lot of guys preferring the CB feel and that is all good, I was getting used to it yesterday, but you can't hit one next to the other and make that case.

 

+1 this^

 

it's funny how feel is so subjective. Some people say CB and MB are very similar. But coming from CB501 to Small Blades, hand on my heart i can say it's day & night.

 

Don't get me wrong, the CB501 weren't bricks but blades are just different. I told my friend recently, everybody should get a set of blades just to appreciate it.

 

Maybe it won't be your competition set or your goto clubs to shoot 69 but it's worth the $$ just so you can feel the difference and compare

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Yeah, and 501s are blade like.....hell, I thought my staffs were but not as much as 501s.

 

 

Is the loft that different with a 43" driver from 3 wood? Like I hit my driver farther than my 3 wood, I think it is 45", but if it was 43" I wonder how different they would be? What do you guys do with your 3 woods if a 43" driver?

[NRJyzr]

Has anyone here ever hit a driver less than 9° of loft? I tried a 7.5° once. I didnt have the SS to elevate it properly. Was an absolute crap fest of a day. I remember punching one straight at 2 o'clock and the ball hitting a pine tree, aggressively propelling it right back to me and 60 yards behind the tee box. Took a 9, on a par 4. May have been the lowest point of my amateur career.

 

Speaking on our resident engineers last post; I've gamed drivers at 46¼ and 43½. Pretty much all have been 9°-10.5° and have ALWAYS found the sub 44" drivers to be equally as long and significantly easier to control for my 5'8" 180lb frame.

 

In Ye Olde Dayez, my regular driver was an SMT 455DB with 7° loft. Over the years, I had developed a fairly positive angle of attack with driver. I also had a bit more swingspeed at the time than I do now.

 

I spent a year playing Eye2+, from Sept-2011 to Aug-2012. The Pings hit the ball considerably higher than the MS-11 or Golden Rams I had been playing prior. As a result, I found myself working to bring the trajectory lower, and it affected my tee game. I had largely moved on from the 7° driver at the time but had still been able to play it; I found I could no longer do so after playing the Pings for that year.

 

I also have an R510 (non-TP) in 8.5° that I've used in the last couple years. Hits lasers, compared to what I'm using now. LOL

 

I've regained some of the positive angle of attack with driver, but I don't know that I could play that 7° club any longer. Though, I *did* spend some time with my Fly-Z+ at 8.5°, only when I was trying to play it at 44½" or 45".

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

Talking of feedback from the materials, I have been trying out my Honma PP-737 blades recently. They are a cast blade from the late 80s. The feel/feedback is definitely different compared to my other sets of (forged) blades. Strikes on the sweet spot are fine; not massively solid, but nice enough, and I like the ball flight. But slight misses are where these irons are really different. They feel AWFUL!. I was using some impact tape to see where I was hitting them, and trying to identify the sweet spot. They are "Bullet back" types, so the SS is supposed to be a little towards the toe. Anyway, I found hits slightly off-centre, especially towards the heel, just felt like jelly, even though there wasn't a massive loss in distance. On the other hand, a really crap strike was no different from my other sets.

Now is this good or bad? I would say for practice, great, because they give you a TON of feedback. Not sure about what it would be like during a round, though. I will find out tomorrow, as I am taking them with me.

Incidentally, if they are original lofts, they are longer than my usual irons (MP-4s). The 9i (should be 46*) was going further than my MP-4 PW (46*) by a good 5 yards, and the 6i (33*) was as long as the MP 6i (30*). That said, temperatures here are fluctuating wildly, and the extra distance might just be due to the fact it was a good deal warmer than the last time I hit the MP-4s.

So tomorrow I'm going 3i to 11i. Yes, I have an 11 iron. It's a 54* shovel. I call it Spinal Tap.

[Nard_S]

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Yeah, and I really don't want to hear anyone talk about their feedback from cbs being almost as good as blades. I can see a lot of guys preferring the CB feel and that is all good, I was getting used to it yesterday, but you can't hit one next to the other and make that case.

 

+1 this^

 

it's funny how feel is so subjective. Some people say CB and MB are very similar. But coming from CB501 to Small Blades, hand on my heart i can say it's day & night.

 

Don't get me wrong, the CB501 weren't bricks but blades are just different. I told my friend recently, everybody should get a set of blades just to appreciate it.

 

Maybe it won't be your competition set or your goto clubs to shoot 69 but it's worth the $$ just so you can feel the difference and compare

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Yeah, and 501s are blade like.....hell, I thought my staffs were but not as much as 501s.

 

 

Is the loft that different with a 43" driver from 3 wood? Like I hit my driver farther than my 3 wood, I think it is 45", but if it was 43" I wonder how different they would be? What do you guys do with your 3 woods if a 43" driver?

 

I just looked at the R 510. It's probably closer to 44"'. It's a full 1 3/4" longer than my MP 650 3 wood (butt to face center) but more than an 1/1/4"inch shorter than the MP 650 Driver. Theory always was an inch gains about 6 yards all other things being equal.. So that's 10 yards. 3 degrees of loft should add 12 yards, with a 6 degree differential and shaft that's 35 yards alone. But then there is the core. R 510 though smaller at 390cc is a very high core and no 3 wood can match that, so ball speed is higher and differential goes to 40 plus yards I liken the R 510 to an R7 with a lot more control. In the past I could not hit the thing because my hands were too active and losing it left was a huge problem, so I stuck with MP 650 and an 80 gram shaft. Now that I quieted my hands and with 60 gram shaft, shorter shaft and smaller head, the TM is longer than the MP and just as accurate .