Mizuno MP-5 Blades

[Warrick]

[quote name='BigPete' timestamp='1436975549' post='11953888']
Judging by another vid on the Mizuno Facebook page (Vosh and Chris Wood) these look to be marketed as a "forgiving blade" kinda like the mp32 idea (almost an mp64 replacement?) So may have a touch bigger profile than the full on mp4. They're calling it a channelback, as opposed to a muscle back. Looks like it might sit alongside the mp4 in the range rather than replace it

[url="https://www.facebook.com/mizunogolf"]https://www.facebook.com/mizunogolf[/url]
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When he sets up at address in that 15 second video, that clubs looks absolutely stunning. WOW!!!

[Bdmac79]

[quote name='Warrick' timestamp='1436979917' post='11954364']
[quote name='Bdmac79' timestamp='1436976264' post='11953982']
I think so, too. Almost a 64 "replacement". Looks like the H5 would blend in nicely for a combo set.
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Interesting thought. Maybe a blend between the 64/4. I have H5's in 3-7 (play 3-4-5).

Maybe I can go MP5 in 6-P or 8-P. I will be going to see these at the shop as soon as they arrive.
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Exactly.

[Asics10]

About half way down in this link there are comparison pictures for mp5 vs. mp4. The mp5 clearly has a thicker top line.

http://www.mizunoforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=25196&start=130

[Konklifer]

These look amazing. Love what appears to be a slightly larger head and high toe.

[Warrick]

[quote name='Asics10' timestamp='1436982625' post='11954628']
About half way down in this link there are comparison pictures for mp5 vs. mp4. The mp5 clearly has a thicker top line.

[url="http://www.mizunoforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=25196&start=130"]http://www.mizunofor...25196&start=130[/url]
[/quote]

Good info, really wanting to hold these 5's in my hand, could definitely see doing the scoring irons.

[fowleristhetruth]

do we know release date? im to lazy to look through the whole thread

[Asics10]

I was considering mp25 long irons and mp5 short irons, BUT since the 25's are satin finish and the 5's are chrome finish, that would definitily screw up the look when combining them in one set.

[nova6868]

[quote name='Asics10' timestamp='1436987173' post='11955100']
I was considering mp25 long irons and mp5 short irons, BUT since the 25's are satin finish and the 5's are chrome finish, that would definitily screw up the look when combining them in one set.
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Really? I can't imagine it would be a huge deal...

[BigPete]

Release usually early September

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPVJEwz0BdQ

[buzlin]

Mizuno seems to be switching back and forth between "forgiving" blade and "traditional" blade (69 was basically a CB, 4 was compact and beefy, now back to a whatever it is). That's good marketing IMO. Why make their blades play so similarly year after year. The true blade market knows what they and don't need to replace their irons every year, so why not satisfy both markets?

Also, I think the top lines will look different in person and from address. Camera angles manipulate a lot.

[Georgie Z]

the pics seem to show less weight in the toe area than previous versions. does anyone else see that too?

[Ugo DeRosa]

I think the top line of the MP5 necessarily must be thicker in order to have enough material to shave away to create the channel. Otherwise the face might end up too thin.

[MadGolfer76]

[quote name='QuigleyDU' timestamp='1436974033' post='11953722']
[quote name='MadGolfer76' timestamp='1436914916' post='11949718']
Chunky topline for the loss...


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I like it. looks powerful. You guys are getting too picky in your old ages. Getting all gran torino "get off my lawn and crap". haha.
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No way, dude. It is either a real blade or a real embarrassment. The whole reason Mizuno guys swear by them is they don't screw this kind of stuff up. Hopefully, it isn't actually as bad as it looks.

[nunzo]

Honestly why doesn't Mizuno offer these for leftys? hell even charge us another extra hundred or two. it's 2015 for god sakes.

[jay65]

[quote name='nunzo' timestamp='1437106056' post='11964366']
Honestly why doesn't Mizuno offer these for leftys? hell even charge us another extra hundred or two. it's 2015 for god sakes.
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Oh, don't give them any ideas for goodness sake!! . Seriously though, as a lefty myself, I still understand that the cost of making up all the dyes etc for forging especially for Leftys is fairly expensive and, be honest, how many of these would they honestly sell worldwide to Leftys'? Does that amount of sets offset the cost of manufacturing? I'm afraid, the answer is often 'no'. Sad but true I'm afraid, and adding a couple of hundred $ onto a set isn't honestly going to make any difference to the cost effectiveness. I wish they'd do them in LH too, but it's quite understandable that they don't.

[BigPete]

[quote name='jay65' timestamp='1437122930' post='11964850']
[quote name='nunzo' timestamp='1437106056' post='11964366']
Honestly why doesn't Mizuno offer these for leftys? hell even charge us another extra hundred or two. it's 2015 for god sakes.
[/quote]

Oh, don't give them any ideas for goodness sake!! . Seriously though, as a lefty myself, I still understand that the cost of making up all the dyes etc for forging especially for Leftys is fairly expensive and, be honest, how many of these would they honestly sell worldwide to Leftys'? Does that amount of sets offset the cost of manufacturing? I'm afraid, the answer is often 'no'. Sad but true I'm afraid, and adding a couple of hundred $ onto a set isn't honestly going to make any difference to the cost effectiveness. I wish they'd do them in LH too, but it's quite understandable that they don't.
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They made the MP68(?) available left I think and got burned financially. The market for blades is tiny, and then the left hand market is even tinier, especially in Japan where the lefty population is much smaller than, say the Canadian one. Less Ice Hockey in Japan I guess...

[easyyy]

MP-5 toplines are thicker than the MP-4's
MP-5 toplines are the same thickness of the MP-15's but have more camber to look thinner by a smidge.
MP-5's are the same length heel to toe as the MP-4's.
MP-5's are just a touch shorter heel to toe as the MP-15's.
The sole of the MP-5's have more bounce than the MP-4's
Sole widths are almost the same width as the MP-4's and the MP-15's. The MP-15's are a touch wider and less camber.


[attachment=2858968:mp-5 vs mp-15.JPG]

[attachment=2858966:mp-4 vs mp5.jpg]

[driverwedge]

Hmm. Looking forward to seeing them next to my 4s.

[MadGolfer76]

Richard, do you have the lofts for the set?

[TRoc9892]

[quote name='easyyy' timestamp='1437159800' post='11967848']
MP-5 toplines are thicker than the MP-4's
MP-5 toplines are the same thickness of the MP-15's but have more camber to look thinner by a smidge.
MP-5's are the same length heel to toe as the MP-4's.
MP-5's are just a touch shorter heel to toe as the MP-15's.
The sole of the MP-5's have more bounce than the MP-4's
Sole widths are almost the same width as the MP-4's and the MP-15's. The MP-15's are a touch wider and less camber.
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Same length heel to toe as the MP-4s with more bounce? Sounds like it was made for me. The difference of toplines looks near negligible from that picture.

[buzlin]

I'm loving this new "MB" iron. The more I look at what they did, morphing the mass from the muscle lower and deeper, "channeling" out the middle (cavity), and adding some mass high out on the toe (Ping ISI-K? haha), it really is a beautiful blend between a true MB and players CB. It only looks like an MB because they didn't add mass along the middle toe perimeter, but otherwise it has a lot of CB characteristics. Can't wait to see it in person.

[BigPete]

Awesome pics and info easyyy. Hopefully that will put some minds at rest.

I still reckon the 5s will run alongside the 4s as a more forgiving "bladed" design. They've been careful to call them "channel backs" rather than "muscle backs".

Much like the 32 ran alongside the 33.

As always, I could be completely wrong

[cheeks]

Curious if the PW will be the same size as the MP-4. If yes, these may be my new irons in a year or two.

I prefer the PW in the MP-4 to the one in my MP-64 set. Otherwise, I'd be content if they just kept making 64s from now until eternity.

[jollysammy]

I'm getting MP-5 heads on Monday which I'm pairing up with Project X 6.0 rifles.

After its done I'll take some better pictures and post them. My son's pretty excited about hitting them and comparing them to his MP-4s.

[avguy]

[quote name='easyyy' timestamp='1437159800' post='11967848']
MP-5 toplines are thicker than the MP-4's
MP-5 toplines are the same thickness of the MP-15's but have more camber to look thinner by a smidge.
MP-5's are the same length heel to toe as the MP-4's.
MP-5's are just a touch shorter heel to toe as the MP-15's.
The sole of the MP-5's have more bounce than the MP-4's
Sole widths are almost the same width as the MP-4's and the MP-15's. The MP-15's are a touch wider and less camber.


[attachment=2858968:mp-5 vs mp-15.JPG]

[attachment=2858966:mp-4 vs mp5.jpg]
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From my viewpoint, I want the comparison done with MP-69, which I've gamed 3 1/2 years. Not too old of a design, I doubt the 5's can be easier to strike well than MP-69, which I have paired [i]smoothly[/i] with Recoils F4 110.

I've seen the Cobra Fly-Z Pros up close, and also play the Callaway Razr MBs same length as MP-69. These new Channelbacks are basically a hybrid in design and purpose on those two iron models which are called muscle backs, but could spur lots of debate among hobbyists as to what category they really can be.

[easyyy]

[quote name='MadGolfer76' timestamp='1437161710' post='11968070']
Richard, do you have the lofts for the set?
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I do not. I have a set I bought and will post up Pics tomorrow.

[jrk]

[quote name='avguy' timestamp='1437185796' post='11970222']
[quote name='easyyy' timestamp='1437159800' post='11967848']
MP-5 toplines are thicker than the MP-4's
MP-5 toplines are the same thickness of the MP-15's but have more camber to look thinner by a smidge.
MP-5's are the same length heel to toe as the MP-4's.
MP-5's are just a touch shorter heel to toe as the MP-15's.
The sole of the MP-5's have more bounce than the MP-4's
Sole widths are almost the same width as the MP-4's and the MP-15's. The MP-15's are a touch wider and less camber.


[attachment=2858968:mp-5 vs mp-15.JPG]

[attachment=2858966:mp-4 vs mp5.jpg]
[/quote]

From my viewpoint, I want the comparison done with MP-69, which I've gamed 3 1/2 years. Not too old of a design, I doubt the 5's can be easier to strike well than MP-69, which I have paired [i]smoothly[/i] with Recoils F4 110.

I've seen the Cobra Fly-Z Pros up close, and also play the Callaway Razr MBs same length as MP-69. These new Channelbacks are basically a hybrid in design and purpose on those two iron models which are called muscle backs, but could spur lots of debate among hobbyists as to what category they really can be.
[/quote]

I own the Fly-Z Pro Full MB set, not the Flow set. They are pure MBs to me...just as, if not more, compact than my MP 4's.

[avguy]

[quote name='jrk' timestamp='1437187132' post='11970350']
[quote name='avguy' timestamp='1437185796' post='11970222']
[quote name='easyyy' timestamp='1437159800' post='11967848']
MP-5 toplines are thicker than the MP-4's
MP-5 toplines are the same thickness of the MP-15's but have more camber to look thinner by a smidge.
MP-5's are the same length heel to toe as the MP-4's.
MP-5's are just a touch shorter heel to toe as the MP-15's.
The sole of the MP-5's have more bounce than the MP-4's
Sole widths are almost the same width as the MP-4's and the MP-15's. The MP-15's are a touch wider and less camber.


[attachment=2858968:mp-5 vs mp-15.JPG]

[attachment=2858966:mp-4 vs mp5.jpg]
[/quote]

From my viewpoint, I want the comparison done with MP-69, which I've gamed 3 1/2 years. Not too old of a design, I doubt the 5's can be easier to strike well than MP-69, which I have paired [i]smoothly[/i] with Recoils F4 110.

I've seen the Cobra Fly-Z Pros up close, and also play the Callaway Razr MBs same length as MP-69. These new Channelbacks are basically a hybrid in design and purpose on those two iron models which are called muscle backs, but could spur lots of debate among hobbyists as to what category they really can be.
[/quote]

I own the Fly-Z Pro Full MB set, not the Flow set. They are pure MBs to me...just as, if not more, compact than my MP 4's.
[/quote]

Hate to right angle the thread, but irk, how do your Fly-Z Pros work vs. MP-4 in regards to feel, flight, dispersion if the shafts are close enough in specs?

I'm pretty set on getting another full MB irons set this year later on if I can order with Nippon Modus shafts, which Cobra does not offer - so I'd have to hear that they work better in all those checks I listed vs. an MP-4 before I'd change my mind. Maybe I'd consider with KBS or a DG Pro, target wt. for me is usually around 120g shafts. Obviously MP-5s would have the Nippon option.
thanks.

[jrk]

I have had MP's in play since MP 67's, where the MP 68's were my favorite. I've been in the MP 4's since they came out, with several different shafts...C Taper being my favorite. I'm very excited about these 5's...as they sound right up my alley. I've not been told by our rep that Modus will be offered in the new Mizuno shaft matrix...I sincerely hope so. If not, I'll prob buy a set with C Taper, but play with soft stepping this go around.

As for the Cobra's...and not to do a starboard tack hard over on this thread....they are absolutely incredible. Soft as or more soft than my 4's, but just flat out easier for my swing to hit...I mean a meaty dense soft sound and feel that makes you smile...and Cobra does offer the Modus as a custom offering...the 120's....Flight, distance, etc. are all similar...but again, my swing likes the Cobras...and it might be that they "look" to have a little more bounce (my divots and turf interaction is more consistent) than my 4's , and I think they have more muscle...

Sorry...thread back on course...

As far as what Mizuno will offer this year in their shaft matrix...I'm sincerely hoping a good modus offering as well as some Steel Fib's, Recoils, etc.

[dunn]

[quote name='avguy' timestamp='1437188393' post='11970462']
[quote name='jrk' timestamp='1437187132' post='11970350']
[quote name='avguy' timestamp='1437185796' post='11970222']
[quote name='easyyy' timestamp='1437159800' post='11967848']
MP-5 toplines are thicker than the MP-4's
MP-5 toplines are the same thickness of the MP-15's but have more camber to look thinner by a smidge.
MP-5's are the same length heel to toe as the MP-4's.
MP-5's are just a touch shorter heel to toe as the MP-15's.
The sole of the MP-5's have more bounce than the MP-4's
Sole widths are almost the same width as the MP-4's and the MP-15's. The MP-15's are a touch wider and less camber.


[attachment=2858968:mp-5 vs mp-15.JPG]

[attachment=2858966:mp-4 vs mp5.jpg]
[/quote]

From my viewpoint, I want the comparison done with MP-69, which I've gamed 3 1/2 years. Not too old of a design, I doubt the 5's can be easier to strike well than MP-69, which I have paired [i]smoothly[/i] with Recoils F4 110.

I've seen the Cobra Fly-Z Pros up close, and also play the Callaway Razr MBs same length as MP-69. These new Channelbacks are basically a hybrid in design and purpose on those two iron models which are called muscle backs, but could spur lots of debate among hobbyists as to what category they really can be.
[/quote]

I own the Fly-Z Pro Full MB set, not the Flow set. They are pure MBs to me...just as, if not more, compact than my MP 4's.
[/quote]

Hate to right angle the thread, but irk, how do your Fly-Z Pros work vs. MP-4 in regards to feel, flight, dispersion if the shafts are close enough in specs?

I'm pretty set on getting another full MB irons set this year later on if I can order with Nippon Modus shafts, which Cobra does not offer - so I'd have to hear that they work better in all those checks I listed vs. an MP-4 before I'd change my mind. Maybe I'd consider with KBS or a DG Pro, target wt. for me is usually around 120g shafts. Obviously MP-5s would have the Nippon option.
thanks.
[/quote]I don't think mizzy offers pro modus....bridgestone does at no upcharge and their MB is pretty nice...