Kirkland Signature (Costco) golf balls (MERGED) (NO BST POSTS)

[trackcoach13]

Interesting trivia question. Can non-members who ordered online take advantage of the same return policy as Costco members?

 

Yes

[Sean2]

Titleist must be feeling the pressure from Ksig. I can tell by the daily commercial run including junior, ladies and tour pros.

Do you remember when it was a sin to ask about a pro v1x? Only to hear the salesman say " you can't play these balls unless you have a 105 mph swing, get the solos or DXT.."

funny now, first tee kids are in the commercial for V or X...

Ksig is lurking on that market share

 

Not only from the Costco ball, but the Chrome Soft as well.

[Break81]

I agree with your logic when applying it to avid golfers (plays at least twice a month). However if every Costco had these on the shelf, the number they might sell to the guy who plays 6 -10 times a year (which in my opinion makes up around 50% of the golfers in my area) is hard to quantify. I can tell you these golfers are rarely playing an expensive ball anyway. Costco would have a large impact on not only in the premium ball market, but also the guys who would never spend more the $15-$20 for a dozen balls at retail pricing anyway.

How much of an impact on any golf equipment items sales do the 6-10 round a year guys make?

In Socal it still adds up to a ton of balls. I see more Noodles lying around courses I play than ProV1's. My point was everyone is stating the obvious with the impact the Ksig will have on the premium market, all I was doing was observing the rest of the market and the impact it could have if the Ksig was always in stock at Costco when you go to buy your other goods.

[nsxguy]

I agree with your logic when applying it to avid golfers (plays at least twice a month). However if every Costco had these on the shelf, the number they might sell to the guy who plays 6 -10 times a year (which in my opinion makes up around 50% of the golfers in my area) is hard to quantify. I can tell you these golfers are rarely playing an expensive ball anyway. Costco would have a large impact on not only in the premium ball market, but also the guys who would never spend more the $15-$20 for a dozen balls at retail pricing anyway.

How much of an impact on any golf equipment items sales do the 6-10 round a year guys make?

In Socal it still adds up to a ton of balls. I see more Noodles lying around courses I play than ProV1's. My point was everyone is stating the obvious with the impact the Ksig will have on the premium market, all I was doing was observing the rest of the market and the impact it could have if the Ksig was always in stock at Costco when you go to buy your other goods.

 

For Ksig to impact the ProV market,,,,,,,,, I wonder how many guys on this thread, who are so infatuated with Ksigs, played ProV1s in the first place.

 

It's far more likely their NXT and Velocity would be losing market share (however small) to Ksig.

 

I guess time will tell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Break81]

I agree with your logic when applying it to avid golfers (plays at least twice a month). However if every Costco had these on the shelf, the number they might sell to the guy who plays 6 -10 times a year (which in my opinion makes up around 50% of the golfers in my area) is hard to quantify. I can tell you these golfers are rarely playing an expensive ball anyway. Costco would have a large impact on not only in the premium ball market, but also the guys who would never spend more the $15-$20 for a dozen balls at retail pricing anyway.

How much of an impact on any golf equipment items sales do the 6-10 round a year guys make?

In Socal it still adds up to a ton of balls. I see more Noodles lying around courses I play than ProV1's. My point was everyone is stating the obvious with the impact the Ksig will have on the premium market, all I was doing was observing the rest of the market and the impact it could have if the Ksig was always in stock at Costco when you go to buy your other goods.

 

For Ksig to impact the ProV market,,,,,,,,, I wonder how many guys on this thread, who are so infatuated with Ksigs, played ProV1s in the first place.

 

It's far more likely their NXT and Velocity would be losing market share (however small) to Ksig.

 

I guess time will tell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I bet you everything I have if the Ksig was stocked on a consistent basis, over the course of a year more and more people would start playing the ball. Titleist knows this and why they threatened to sue and Costco has filed lawsuit paperwork of their own.

[games]

I think Costco understands avid golfers stock up on balls. My guess is the KSig production cycle will be calibrated to ensure regular users will have multiple chances to replenish depleted supply...

 

Was watching some Titleist promotional videos to refute some <ahem> stretches of truth posted previously. Apparently the 2017 ProVs have a new version of the core and a new dimple pattern. Sounds like pretty drastic changes. Wonder how many ProV users switched to the KSig due to the design change...

[nsxguy]

I agree with your logic when applying it to avid golfers (plays at least twice a month). However if every Costco had these on the shelf, the number they might sell to the guy who plays 6 -10 times a year (which in my opinion makes up around 50% of the golfers in my area) is hard to quantify. I can tell you these golfers are rarely playing an expensive ball anyway. Costco would have a large impact on not only in the premium ball market, but also the guys who would never spend more the $15-$20 for a dozen balls at retail pricing anyway.

How much of an impact on any golf equipment items sales do the 6-10 round a year guys make?

In Socal it still adds up to a ton of balls. I see more Noodles lying around courses I play than ProV1's. My point was everyone is stating the obvious with the impact the Ksig will have on the premium market, all I was doing was observing the rest of the market and the impact it could have if the Ksig was always in stock at Costco when you go to buy your other goods.

 

For Ksig to impact the ProV market,,,,,,,,, I wonder how many guys on this thread, who are so infatuated with Ksigs, played ProV1s in the first place.

 

It's far more likely their NXT and Velocity would be losing market share (however small) to Ksig.

 

I guess time will tell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I bet you everything I have if the Ksig was stocked on a consistent basis, over the course of a year more and more people would start playing the ball. Titleist knows this and why they threatened to sue and Costco has filed lawsuit paperwork of their own.

 

D'ohhhhh.

 

No need to get combative. :superman:

 

Of course more and more will play the ball. It's "brand new" (so to speak). It was only "discovered" what, 8 months ago ?

 

It's the new kid on the block and there's plenty of interest right now especially because of the price point and lack of supply.

 

But already the early adopters can't get the inflated prices on eBay they got before.

 

Like I said, time will tell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :dntknw:

[TsarBomba]

I agree with your logic when applying it to avid golfers (plays at least twice a month). However if every Costco had these on the shelf, the number they might sell to the guy who plays 6 -10 times a year (which in my opinion makes up around 50% of the golfers in my area) is hard to quantify. I can tell you these golfers are rarely playing an expensive ball anyway. Costco would have a large impact on not only in the premium ball market, but also the guys who would never spend more the $15-$20 for a dozen balls at retail pricing anyway.

How much of an impact on any golf equipment items sales do the 6-10 round a year guys make?

In Socal it still adds up to a ton of balls. I see more Noodles lying around courses I play than ProV1's. My point was everyone is stating the obvious with the impact the Ksig will have on the premium market, all I was doing was observing the rest of the market and the impact it could have if the Ksig was always in stock at Costco when you go to buy your other goods.

 

For Ksig to impact the ProV market,,,,,,,,, I wonder how many guys on this thread, who are so infatuated with Ksigs, played ProV1s in the first place.

 

It's far more likely their NXT and Velocity would be losing market share (however small) to Ksig.

 

I guess time will tell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Lol, EVERYBODY has played Pro-v1s..They are expensive (for what they are) but its not like they are only obtainable for the rich. Hell, I probably find on my course as many Pro-v1s as I loose, and i even used to buy my own as a broke college student. Anybody playing that ball for the name or prestige is dillusional. Their not a freekin Bugatti or other high end luxury item..Said before a million times, most the commenters here who have a positive perspective on the Ksig have the prerequisite, bare minimum, info to intelligently participate in the convo. AS IN, played the ksig AND the Prov1 as well as other balls. I love the ProV1X, but see zero advantage to it above the KSIG. 15 vs 45...simple numbers...

 

[Yanki01]

I think Costco understands avid golfers stock up on balls. My guess is the KSig production cycle will be calibrated to ensure regular users will have multiple chances to replenish depleted supply...

 

Was watching some Titleist promotional videos to refute some <ahem> stretches of truth posted previously. Apparently the 2017 ProVs have a new version of the core and a new dimple pattern. Sounds like pretty drastic changes. Wonder how many ProV users switched to the KSig due to the design change...

 

i haven't tried the '17 pro V's yet but there was a lot of confusion as they made it seem like the characteristics of each ball was swapped. though I've noticed they're really pushing their ball now on a lot of commercials.

[nsxguy]

I agree with your logic when applying it to avid golfers (plays at least twice a month). However if every Costco had these on the shelf, the number they might sell to the guy who plays 6 -10 times a year (which in my opinion makes up around 50% of the golfers in my area) is hard to quantify. I can tell you these golfers are rarely playing an expensive ball anyway. Costco would have a large impact on not only in the premium ball market, but also the guys who would never spend more the $15-$20 for a dozen balls at retail pricing anyway.

How much of an impact on any golf equipment items sales do the 6-10 round a year guys make?

In Socal it still adds up to a ton of balls. I see more Noodles lying around courses I play than ProV1's. My point was everyone is stating the obvious with the impact the Ksig will have on the premium market, all I was doing was observing the rest of the market and the impact it could have if the Ksig was always in stock at Costco when you go to buy your other goods.

 

For Ksig to impact the ProV market,,,,,,,,, I wonder how many guys on this thread, who are so infatuated with Ksigs, played ProV1s in the first place.

 

It's far more likely their NXT and Velocity would be losing market share (however small) to Ksig.

 

I guess time will tell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Lol, EVERYBODY has played Pro-v1s..They are expensive (for what they are) but its not like they are only obtainable for the rich. Hell, I probably find on my course as many Pro-v1s as I loose, and i even used to buy my own as a broke college student. Anybody playing that ball for the name or prestige is dillusional. Their not a freekin Bugatti or other high end luxury item..Said before a million times, most the commenters here who have a positive perspective on the Ksig have the prerequisite, bare minimum, info to intelligently participate in the convo. AS IN, played the ksig AND the Prov1 as well as other balls. I love the ProV1X, but see zero advantage to it above the KSIG. 15 vs 45...simple numbers...

 

Everybody Gracie ? You can go through 300 pages to find out but not me.

 

But it doesnt' matter anyway.

 

The point isn't who has TRIED the ProV1, the point is who's DITCHING the ProV1 for the Ksig. Only THAT will eat into the ProV share.

 

And most(?) of the posters in this thread who are head over heels over the Ksig have a handicap (if it's even there on their profile) of double digits - not likely the ProV is their "go to" ball.

[Jagpilotohio]

Looks like the profit taking has finally slowed on EBay.

 

Just had a dozen close at $21.50 plus 7 bucks shipping. Obviously no money there.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/332199911544?ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F0%252Fe11010.m1951.l7534%252F7%253Feuid%253Da1c5fad55f0f4624ad4cac32f8d2d8ce%2526bu%253D44057081292%2526loc%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fulk%25252Fitm%25252F332199911544%2526sojTags%253Dbu%253Dbu%2526srcrot%253De11010.m1951.l7534%2526rvr_id%253D0&ul_noapp=true

[Bad9]

I think Costco understands avid golfers stock up on balls. My guess is the KSig production cycle will be calibrated to ensure regular users will have multiple chances to replenish depleted supply...

 

Was watching some Titleist promotional videos to refute some <ahem> stretches of truth posted previously. Apparently the 2017 ProVs have a new version of the core and a new dimple pattern. Sounds like pretty drastic changes. Wonder how many ProV users switched to the KSig due to the design change...

 

Titleist changed the ProV1 every couple years, just not the name.

[new2g0lf]

Prior to KSig I played preowned 2016 Pro V1, Chrome Soft and Bridgestone B330RX. I can get the KSigs for less than the 5A preowned balls and they perform as well or better for me.

[trackcoach13]

I think Costco understands avid golfers stock up on balls. My guess is the KSig production cycle will be calibrated to ensure regular users will have multiple chances to replenish depleted supply...

 

Was watching some Titleist promotional videos to refute some <ahem> stretches of truth posted previously. Apparently the 2017 ProVs have a new version of the core and a new dimple pattern. Sounds like pretty drastic changes. Wonder how many ProV users switched to the KSig due to the design change...

 

Titleist changed the ProV1 every couple years, just not the name.

 

Not exactly true. Although they would tweak the cover formula or dimple design, the ProV1 has been largely unchanged for a long time. This time the changes were real in that they gave it a new core. It is actually different this time around.

[soregongolfer]

 

 

Everybody Gracie ? You can go through 300 pages to find out but not me.

 

But it doesnt' matter anyway.

 

The point isn't who has TRIED the ProV1, the point is who's DITCHING the ProV1 for the Ksig. Only THAT will eat into the ProV share.

 

And most(?) of the posters in this thread who are head over heels over the Ksig have a handicap (if it's even there on their profile) of double digits - not likely the ProV is their "go to" ball.

 

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, I didn't know that as a single digit capper, I needed to update my profile with my 'cap. I apologize for this breach of etiquette. As for the ProV, I will bet that if only single digit cappers played them, THAT would definitely cut into Titleist's profits. Let's not pretend single digit cappers are their top customers.

[soregongolfer]

I think Costco understands avid golfers stock up on balls. My guess is the KSig production cycle will be calibrated to ensure regular users will have multiple chances to replenish depleted supply...

 

Was watching some Titleist promotional videos to refute some <ahem> stretches of truth posted previously. Apparently the 2017 ProVs have a new version of the core and a new dimple pattern. Sounds like pretty drastic changes. Wonder how many ProV users switched to the KSig due to the design change...

 

Titleist changed the ProV1 every couple years, just not the name.

 

Not exactly true. Although they would tweak the cover formula or dimple design, the ProV1 has been largely unchanged for a long time. This time the changes were real in that they gave it a new core. It is actually different this time around.

 

So they've been short for awhile now? Even Michael Breed admitted last year's version was short. Judging by this year's big changes, they knew their product was inferior, yah? ;)

[trackcoach13]

I think Costco understands avid golfers stock up on balls. My guess is the KSig production cycle will be calibrated to ensure regular users will have multiple chances to replenish depleted supply...

 

Was watching some Titleist promotional videos to refute some <ahem> stretches of truth posted previously. Apparently the 2017 ProVs have a new version of the core and a new dimple pattern. Sounds like pretty drastic changes. Wonder how many ProV users switched to the KSig due to the design change...

 

Titleist changed the ProV1 every couple years, just not the name.

 

Not exactly true. Although they would tweak the cover formula or dimple design, the ProV1 has been largely unchanged for a long time. This time the changes were real in that they gave it a new core. It is actually different this time around.

 

So they've been short for awhile now? Even Michael Breed admitted last year's version was short. Judging by this year's big changes, they knew their product was inferior, yah? ;)

 

Yah :swoon:

[Adam Billmeyer]

Here is some good data....albeit from My Golf Spy....

 

https://www.Not allowed because of spam.com/kirkland-vs-titleist-pro-v1/

[Break81]

Saw these on ebay... Same guy here who made some yellow ones possibly?

[grm24]

Saw these on ebay... Same guy here who made some yellow ones possibly?

Could be. If a golf ball is manufactured in a different color each color must be on the conforming ball list

to be "legal" for play. No Kirkland balls of a different color on the list. Just an Ebay seller being an opportunist dying them

pink as his ad states he did.

[nsxguy]

Everybody Gracie ? You can go through 300 pages to find out but not me.

 

But it doesnt' matter anyway.

 

The point isn't who has TRIED the ProV1, the point is who's DITCHING the ProV1 for the Ksig. Only THAT will eat into the ProV share.

 

And most(?) of the posters in this thread who are head over heels over the Ksig have a handicap (if it's even there on their profile) of double digits - not likely the ProV is their "go to" ball.

 

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, I didn't know that as a single digit capper, I needed to update my profile with my 'cap. I apologize for this breach of etiquette. As for the ProV, I will bet that if only single digit cappers played them, THAT would definitely cut into Titleist's profits. Let's not pretend single digit cappers are their top customers.

 

Nice try. :rolleyes: Not.

 

Nobody said you had to post your handicap. :rtfm:

 

But thanks fer playin'. :hi:

[Geaux Gators]

The dying process is quite easy.. RIT proline dye powder, and boiling water. Drop the balls in and stir for 20 minutes. Some golf balls do not take the dye well, some do not take the dyeing process well. ProV1s do "ok" Zstars do not do well, as the Urethane cover deteriorates due to the heat of the water. MG's and Kirklands seem to do well.

[Bad9]

I think Costco understands avid golfers stock up on balls. My guess is the KSig production cycle will be calibrated to ensure regular users will have multiple chances to replenish depleted supply...

 

Was watching some Titleist promotional videos to refute some <ahem> stretches of truth posted previously. Apparently the 2017 ProVs have a new version of the core and a new dimple pattern. Sounds like pretty drastic changes. Wonder how many ProV users switched to the KSig due to the design change...

 

Titleist changed the ProV1 every couple years, just not the name.

 

Not exactly true. Although they would tweak the cover formula or dimple design, the ProV1 has been largely unchanged for a long time. This time the changes were real in that they gave it a new core. It is actually different this time around.

 

I disagree. they made changes every couple of years that made noticeable changes to how the ball played and felt. From Titleist Press releases talking about what they improved on the prior version

 

2015-new cover, softer feel, more short game spin, more durable

 

2013-even softer feel, longer distance due to less long game spin and a shallower angle of descent for even more roll

 

2011-improved spin control, more durable, new core, new aerodynamics and dimples(sizes and number), new casing layer

 

Whether these changes made it a better ball for a given player Titleist certainly touted them all as changes and improved technology

[Break81]

I think Costco understands avid golfers stock up on balls. My guess is the KSig production cycle will be calibrated to ensure regular users will have multiple chances to replenish depleted supply...

 

Was watching some Titleist promotional videos to refute some <ahem> stretches of truth posted previously. Apparently the 2017 ProVs have a new version of the core and a new dimple pattern. Sounds like pretty drastic changes. Wonder how many ProV users switched to the KSig due to the design change...

 

Titleist changed the ProV1 every couple years, just not the name.

 

Not exactly true. Although they would tweak the cover formula or dimple design, the ProV1 has been largely unchanged for a long time. This time the changes were real in that they gave it a new core. It is actually different this time around.

 

I disagree. they made changes every couple of years that made noticeable changes to how the ball played and felt. From Titleist Press releases talking about what they improved on the prior version

 

2015-new cover, softer feel, more short game spin, more durable

 

2013-even softer feel, longer distance due to less long game spin and a shallower angle of descent for even more roll

 

2011-improved spin control, more durable, new core, new aerodynamics and dimples(sizes and number), new casing layer

 

Whether these changes made it a better ball for a given player Titleist certainly touted them all as changes and improved technology

Sounds a bit like marketing more than real change.

 

Like Taylormade saying every driver is longer than the previous.

 

Are the ProV1s all different from model to model? Absolutely. Are they different to the point you could hit a 2013 and a 2015 in a blind test and know which was which? I don't think I could. Some might

[Bad9]

I think Costco understands avid golfers stock up on balls. My guess is the KSig production cycle will be calibrated to ensure regular users will have multiple chances to replenish depleted supply...

 

Was watching some Titleist promotional videos to refute some <ahem> stretches of truth posted previously. Apparently the 2017 ProVs have a new version of the core and a new dimple pattern. Sounds like pretty drastic changes. Wonder how many ProV users switched to the KSig due to the design change...

 

Titleist changed the ProV1 every couple years, just not the name.

 

Not exactly true. Although they would tweak the cover formula or dimple design, the ProV1 has been largely unchanged for a long time. This time the changes were real in that they gave it a new core. It is actually different this time around.

 

I disagree. they made changes every couple of years that made noticeable changes to how the ball played and felt. From Titleist Press releases talking about what they improved on the prior version

 

2015-new cover, softer feel, more short game spin, more durable

 

2013-even softer feel, longer distance due to less long game spin and a shallower angle of descent for even more roll

 

2011-improved spin control, more durable, new core, new aerodynamics and dimples(sizes and number), new casing layer

 

Whether these changes made it a better ball for a given player Titleist certainly touted them all as changes and improved technology

Sounds a bit like marketing more than real change.

 

Like Taylormade saying every driver is longer than the previous.

 

Are the ProV1s all different from model to model? Absolutely. Are they different to the point you could hit a 2013 and a 2015 in a blind test and know which was which? I don't think I could. Some might

 

Many on here report that the last version was short and why they introduced drastic changes this time. I don't recall previous versions labelled short.

[TsarBomba]

Played 36 yesterday. 75 degrees 7mph wind. Perfect day for golf. Home course..

 

First 18 played a mix of the Prov1x and Kirkland. Shot 77 which is a decent score for me. Lost zero balls. Ball striking was good. Putting was a little off though.

 

Second 18, played only the Kirkland since I was swinging well enough that I wasn't worried about losing a Kirkland. Shot my personal best - 72:)

 

On 2 holes had personal best drives (for those holes anyway).

 

Kirkland going in my little trophy case!

[Foofighters]

The dying process is quite easy.. RIT proline dye powder, and boiling water. Drop the balls in and stir for 20 minutes. Some golf balls do not take the dye well, some do not take the dyeing process well. ProV1s do "ok" Zstars do not do well, as the Urethane cover deteriorates due to the heat of the water. MG's and Kirklands seem to do well.

 

Yes it was... Thanks Gator!

 

 

Saw these on ebay... Same guy here who made some yellow ones possibly?

 

Nah wasn't me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[newportbeach]

The dying process is quite easy.. RIT proline dye powder, and boiling water. Drop the balls in and stir for 20 minutes. Some golf balls do not take the dye well, some do not take the dyeing process well. ProV1s do "ok" Zstars do not do well, as the Urethane cover deteriorates due to the heat of the water. MG's and Kirklands seem to do well.

 

Humm may have to try that out for a fun experiment.

[nix]

I think Costco understands avid golfers stock up on balls. My guess is the KSig production cycle will be calibrated to ensure regular users will have multiple chances to replenish depleted supply...

 

Was watching some Titleist promotional videos to refute some <ahem> stretches of truth posted previously. Apparently the 2017 ProVs have a new version of the core and a new dimple pattern. Sounds like pretty drastic changes. Wonder how many ProV users switched to the KSig due to the design change...

totally off topic, but is your avatar Mr. Perfect bowling?!?!

[Dpavs]

The dying process is quite easy.. RIT proline dye powder, and boiling water. Drop the balls in and stir for 20 minutes. Some golf balls do not take the dye well, some do not take the dyeing process well. ProV1s do "ok" Zstars do not do well, as the Urethane cover deteriorates due to the heat of the water. MG's and Kirklands seem to do well.

 

Humm may have to try that out for a fun experiment.

 

There is no way I would do this unless I was planning on eating them. I'm just thinking that boiling a golf ball for 20 minutes has to affect it's characteristics in some regards doesn't it?