146th Open Championship at Royal Birkdale

[KYMAR]

I don't think Spieth is an egomaniac, but there is some irony to the fact that he "goes out of his way" to be courteous to his playing partners at times, but his generally slow and analysis heavy style of play is probably difficult for them to play with.

 

Maybe he tries to be considerate to them when he can because he knows he's kind of hard play with (hard to play against when he makes those putts, I know).

 

Again, I don't think Spieth is an egomaniac, and I do think he is a nice guy. But I think he may have an entitlement issue, perhaps from his upbringing. Where he doesn't even realize that he's taking liberties with the pace of play, etc. It doesn't cross his mind, because he's Jordan Spieth, and he can take as long as he wants.

 

You could also argue that he feels entitled to success and winning at any cost, because that's how any champion feels. But I don't remember Jack and Tiger ever being known for slow play.

 

At the core, I think it's more a result of Jordan's uniquely somewhat overactive mind. I do think he's arguably the smartest player on tour right now, and that's what makes him great.

 

He's possibly the greatest golfer on the planet, so if it takes slow play for him to achieve that, then he's doing what he needs to do to win. If people don't like it, they can just beat him on the course.

 

No one's really debating that...but isn't that a pretty flippant attitude?

 

It may be true that "winning cures all". But, there is also such a thing as winning the right way.

 

And, that's why the pace of play is a topic of debate. Because he sat there for 20+ minutes deliberating over a drop and a shot, etc. That's excessive. And there's no doubt that affected Kuchar and other players, whether positively or negatively.

 

So I'm not saying he DOESN'T win the right way...but it is worthy of consideration given that he is the #1 player and an example for kids, etc. We demand basically perfection out of our American champions for a reason, because so many people idolize them and admire them. It comes with the territory!

 

lol. Jordan, please, recklessly hurry your shot after taking a drop and getting a ruling down the stretch in a major. It's for the children.

 

FFS some of you guys are just not thinking clearly.

[cvvorst]

I don't want to take all the credit, but I knew after the terrible tee shot on 13 that I was bad luck for spieth.

 

So, I took off my Titleist hat, and got my taylormade hat. After that, he played lights out.

[dcrocketman]

Nice bag check

[drbonesvt]

Damn and the kid isn't even wrx long, plus won with an inferior titleist driver - great job Jordan

[straightshot7]

We demand basically perfection out of our American champions for a reason, because so many people idolize them and admire them. It comes with the territory!

 

And who has lived up to that standard, or ever will?

 

Jesus : )

 

But seriously yeah I know. But that doesn't change the point that that's what we demand out of them. Whether we get it is another story.

[T Shaf]

I don't think Spieth is an egomaniac, but there is some irony to the fact that he "goes out of his way" to be courteous to his playing partners at times, but his generally slow and analysis heavy style of play is probably difficult for them to play with.

 

Maybe he tries to be considerate to them when he can because he knows he's kind of hard play with (hard to play against when he makes those putts, I know).

 

Again, I don't think Spieth is an egomaniac, and I do think he is a nice guy. But I think he may have an entitlement issue, perhaps from his upbringing. Where he doesn't even realize that he's taking liberties with the pace of play, etc. It doesn't cross his mind, because he's Jordan Spieth, and he can take as long as he wants.

 

You could also argue that he feels entitled to success and winning at any cost, because that's how any champion feels. But I don't remember Jack and Tiger ever being known for slow play.

 

At the core, I think it's more a result of Jordan's uniquely somewhat overactive mind. I do think he's arguably the smartest player on tour right now, and that's what makes him great.

 

He's possibly the greatest golfer on the planet, so if it takes slow play for him to achieve that, then he's doing what he needs to do to win. If people don't like it, they can just beat him on the course.

 

No one's really debating that...but isn't that a pretty flippant attitude?

 

It may be true that "winning cures all". But, there is also such a thing as winning the right way.

 

And, that's why the pace of play is a topic of debate. Because he sat there for 20+ minutes deliberating over a drop and a shot, etc. That's excessive. And there's no doubt that affected Kuchar and other players, whether positively or negatively.

 

So I'm not saying he DOESN'T win the right way...but it is worthy of consideration given that he is the #1 player and an example for kids, etc. We demand basically perfection out of our American champions for a reason, because so many people idolize them and admire them. It comes with the territory!

 

what other players? He dropped by the rules...the time taken was to determine the proper drop and the officials were involved. He also played much quicker after. He's not the slowest out there, Jason Day is painfully slow too but got much less grief (albeit some) when he was on his run at #1.

 

That was some incredible stuff, congrats Jordan. Glad my round got rained out!

[prorobo]

R&A presentation just a bit classier than drunk Diana Murphy slurring her way through speeches.

[Hawkeye77]

if there's a god, this pinhead collapses tomorrow and Kuch wins.

 

You lose.

 

LOL, sekrah was collapsed this morning! More powerful than a locomotive, faster than a speeding bullet . . . Superman!

[JMoroz]

Fowler could have been half way home but instead waits around for his buddy and gets the total snub on national TV, lol.

 

Fowler played today.....JT on the other hand.

[Forged4ever]

Boom

hikymr it is ava:)

 

Hi Ava honey! :wub: :yahoo: :crazy:

LMAO, Madison has Ava with her and Ava called me and said "I talked to KYM today," lol. Then she told me that she posted to you. I take it that ya got a flurry of likes? She never gives me any likes, lmao.

 

It's great to see Jordan bring the Jug home!!

 

The youngest Player in the History of Professional Golf to have 11 wins and 3 Majors!!!

 

Just think of what he'll do when he learns to bomb it and develops a "real" swing!!!!

 

Oh my god, what a treat we'll be in for??

 

Stay well Bro & have a great week?

Richard

[FredCouplesFan]

Wouldn't mind seeing the open and us open playing like they used to with over par or just barely under par scores winning. Both courses played like munis this year.

[OBbogey5]

Fowler could have been half way home but instead waits around for his buddy and gets the total snub on national TV, lol.

 

It's like when you're younger and all your friends go out on your birthday. Then, you get older and you stop doing it...because you're an adult. These guys will stop hanging around to touch each other for taking their money.

[Mick Douglas]

This is 100% true Alfie Plant's girlfriends name is Daisy Meadow... WOW just WOW she could be Daisy Plant soon.

[KYMAR]

I get tradition and everything, but not everything is sacred. I think the runner up trophy presentation could maybe go away.

 

"and introducing, 1st loser, Matt Kuchar."

[JD3]

Anyone who hates Spieth after that must have a miserable life. Seriously dont envy that situation

[whr]

Spieth classy as always in his speech.

[triplebogeyblues]

20?

[fr0sty]

Damn this kid is classy. What a great speech.

[straightshot7]

I don't think Spieth is an egomaniac, but there is some irony to the fact that he "goes out of his way" to be courteous to his playing partners at times, but his generally slow and analysis heavy style of play is probably difficult for them to play with.

 

Maybe he tries to be considerate to them when he can because he knows he's kind of hard play with (hard to play against when he makes those putts, I know).

 

Again, I don't think Spieth is an egomaniac, and I do think he is a nice guy. But I think he may have an entitlement issue, perhaps from his upbringing. Where he doesn't even realize that he's taking liberties with the pace of play, etc. It doesn't cross his mind, because he's Jordan Spieth, and he can take as long as he wants.

 

You could also argue that he feels entitled to success and winning at any cost, because that's how any champion feels. But I don't remember Jack and Tiger ever being known for slow play.

 

At the core, I think it's more a result of Jordan's uniquely somewhat overactive mind. I do think he's arguably the smartest player on tour right now, and that's what makes him great.

 

He's possibly the greatest golfer on the planet, so if it takes slow play for him to achieve that, then he's doing what he needs to do to win. If people don't like it, they can just beat him on the course.

 

No one's really debating that...but isn't that a pretty flippant attitude?

 

It may be true that "winning cures all". But, there is also such a thing as winning the right way.

 

And, that's why the pace of play is a topic of debate. Because he sat there for 20+ minutes deliberating over a drop and a shot, etc. That's excessive. And there's no doubt that affected Kuchar and other players, whether positively or negatively.

 

So I'm not saying he DOESN'T win the right way...but it is worthy of consideration given that he is the #1 player and an example for kids, etc. We demand basically perfection out of our American champions for a reason, because so many people idolize them and admire them. It comes with the territory!

 

what other players? He dropped by the rules...the time taken was to determine the proper drop and the officials were involved. He also played much quicker after. He's not the slowest out there, Jason Day is painfully slow too but got much less grief (albeit some) when he was on his run at #1.

 

That was some incredible stuff, congrats Jordan. Glad my round got rained out!

 

I read that they were 2 holes behind at one point and obviously the players behind them were stalled as well.

 

I'm not drawing a conclusion I am trying to remain objective and it's just a fact. Not a big deal though in the long run, and I don't think it affected the outcome.

[knock it close]

Wouldn't mind seeing the open and us open playing like they used to with over par or just barely under par scores winning. Both courses played like munis this year.

you should check out the winning scores in the open from '88-'94, or Cat's back to back wins. Good taek though...

[Forged4ever]

if there's a god, this pinhead collapses tomorrow and Kuch wins.

 

You lose.

 

LOL, sekrah was collapsed this morning! More powerful than a locomotive, faster than a speeding bullet . . . Superman!

FWIW, Jordan is god's poster boy for what a professional golfer should be and living breathing swinging proof that there is indeed "a god" ??

 

My do we take this seriously for having absolutely zero invested in it, lmao

 

Ah well, get used to it cuz this Boy's just gettin warmed up!!

 

3 & 11 at the age of 24yo??

 

You ain't seen nothin, lol

 

He's just workin through the bag and is still in his short irons, lmao

 

If ya don't get that, forget it, it's on me?

 

Have a great week Hawkster?

Richard

[JMoroz]

Jordan just pisses excellence and class. What a great speech.

[T Shaf]

I don't think Spieth is an egomaniac, but there is some irony to the fact that he "goes out of his way" to be courteous to his playing partners at times, but his generally slow and analysis heavy style of play is probably difficult for them to play with.

 

Maybe he tries to be considerate to them when he can because he knows he's kind of hard play with (hard to play against when he makes those putts, I know).

 

Again, I don't think Spieth is an egomaniac, and I do think he is a nice guy. But I think he may have an entitlement issue, perhaps from his upbringing. Where he doesn't even realize that he's taking liberties with the pace of play, etc. It doesn't cross his mind, because he's Jordan Spieth, and he can take as long as he wants.

 

You could also argue that he feels entitled to success and winning at any cost, because that's how any champion feels. But I don't remember Jack and Tiger ever being known for slow play.

 

At the core, I think it's more a result of Jordan's uniquely somewhat overactive mind. I do think he's arguably the smartest player on tour right now, and that's what makes him great.

 

He's possibly the greatest golfer on the planet, so if it takes slow play for him to achieve that, then he's doing what he needs to do to win. If people don't like it, they can just beat him on the course.

 

No one's really debating that...but isn't that a pretty flippant attitude?

 

It may be true that "winning cures all". But, there is also such a thing as winning the right way.

 

And, that's why the pace of play is a topic of debate. Because he sat there for 20+ minutes deliberating over a drop and a shot, etc. That's excessive. And there's no doubt that affected Kuchar and other players, whether positively or negatively.

 

So I'm not saying he DOESN'T win the right way...but it is worthy of consideration given that he is the #1 player and an example for kids, etc. We demand basically perfection out of our American champions for a reason, because so many people idolize them and admire them. It comes with the territory!

 

what other players? He dropped by the rules...the time taken was to determine the proper drop and the officials were involved. He also played much quicker after. He's not the slowest out there, Jason Day is painfully slow too but got much less grief (albeit some) when he was on his run at #1.

 

That was some incredible stuff, congrats Jordan. Glad my round got rained out!

 

I read that they were 2 holes behind at one point and obviously the players behind them were stalled as well.

 

I'm not drawing a conclusion I am trying to remain objective and it's just a fact. Not a big deal though in the long run, and I don't think it affected the outcome.

 

um, well...nah...

[KYMAR]

I know that he was grateful, humble, classy and authentic in a trophy presentation, But there's a right way to be grateful, humble, classy, authentic in a trophy presentation.

[bushy007]

America's golden boy Jordan having a dig at American golf fans. Take note mashed potato ******

[bladehunter]

What a great speech. Classy to a T.

[Roadking2003]

The 2016 and 2017 Opens were two of the most dramatic back to back majors ever.

[North Texas]

I know that he was grateful, humble, classy and authentic in a trophy presentation, But there's a right way to be grateful, humble, classy, authentic in a trophy presentation.

 

What am I missing?

[Anonymosity]

I don't think Spieth is an egomaniac, but there is some irony to the fact that he "goes out of his way" to be courteous to his playing partners at times, but his generally slow and analysis heavy style of play is probably difficult for them to play with.

 

Maybe he tries to be considerate to them when he can because he knows he's kind of hard play with (hard to play against when he makes those putts, I know).

 

Again, I don't think Spieth is an egomaniac, and I do think he is a nice guy. But I think he may have an entitlement issue, perhaps from his upbringing. Where he doesn't even realize that he's taking liberties with the pace of play, etc. It doesn't cross his mind, because he's Jordan Spieth, and he can take as long as he wants.

 

You could also argue that he feels entitled to success and winning at any cost, because that's how any champion feels. But I don't remember Jack and Tiger ever being known for slow play.

 

At the core, I think it's more a result of Jordan's uniquely somewhat overactive mind. I do think he's arguably the smartest player on tour right now, and that's what makes him great.

 

He's possibly the greatest golfer on the planet, so if it takes slow play for him to achieve that, then he's doing what he needs to do to win. If people don't like it, they can just beat him on the course.

 

No one's really debating that...but isn't that a pretty flippant attitude?

 

It may be true that "winning cures all". But, there is also such a thing as winning the right way.

 

And, that's why the pace of play is a topic of debate. Because he sat there for 20+ minutes deliberating over a drop and a shot, etc. That's excessive. And there's no doubt that affected Kuchar and other players, whether positively or negatively.

 

So I'm not saying he DOESN'T win the right way...but it is worthy of consideration given that he is the #1 player and an example for kids, etc. We demand basically perfection out of our American champions for a reason, because so many people idolize them and admire them. It comes with the territory!

 

what other players? He dropped by the rules...the time taken was to determine the proper drop and the officials were involved. He also played much quicker after. He's not the slowest out there, Jason Day is painfully slow too but got much less grief (albeit some) when he was on his run at #1.

 

That was some incredible stuff, congrats Jordan. Glad my round got rained out!

 

I read that they were 2 holes behind at one point and obviously the players behind them were stalled as well.

 

I'm not drawing a conclusion I am trying to remain objective and it's just a fact. Not a big deal though in the long run, and I don't think it affected the outcome.

 

Did you check the scores of all the players in the groups that followed Spieth's? You should do that.

[triplebogeyblues]

Didn't take the bunker!