Ping Blueprint forged irons- New photos added page 27

[Holy Moses]

I'm going to buy the sh*t out of a set of Blueprints if they come to market, whatever they may be called :)

 

I really hope we see this club come to retail. I'm ready to demo!

 

We have our third buyer.

 

Ping would sell 1,000 sets on this site alone!

 

The other 9,997 must be in hiding :)

 

Yeah that’s it, they are all hiding....

 

I was never good at math. I meant 997!

[TheMoneyShot]

^^^^^I agree with you. 996, if they are LE. I would be in for 2 sets...

[Golfingfanatic]

MAJ is using these, too.

[TheMoneyShot]

MAJ is using these, too.

 

These are out in the Senior Tour now too? I smell a release coming...

[Holy Moses]

MAJ is using these, too.

 

These are out in the Senior Tour now too? I smell a release coming...

 

With the Ping Tour staff, we are up to what, 7 sets that would be sold? 993 more!

[TheMoneyShot]

MAJ is using these, too.

 

These are out in the Senior Tour now too? I smell a release coming...

 

With the Ping Tour staff, we are up to what, 7 sets that would be sold? 993 more!

 

That is how it all starts...

[andrieddle]

MAJ just got a new set of iblades made for him at the end of last season then he jumped straight to these so there's something to it.

[ZAP]

You guys really need to stop(don't stop) because I had just resigned myself to giving the iblades a go. This could be the most interest I have had in a possible new release in quite some time. Besides if my wife spends 20K on new kitchen cabinets I can spend 2K on new irons right?

[cardoustie]

The last time I emailed Solheim to make blades the s59's came out ... just sayin'

 

PING always does what is right, they are coming but likely in a limited run. Let's call it their version of the CNCPT etc etc

[Jordan Speeth]

I've said all along that iblade 2.0 would be the blueprint when it came out. Too perfect of a scenario . Just makes sense , since all the staffers ( save bubba) who've got blueprints came from iblade.

 

Could be. I don't totally get the reasoning behind taking the time to put "Blueprint" on the iron, instead of just leaving it blank. Seems that's an active attempt to distinguish it from iBlade or a possible iBlade replacement.

 

As far as I know blueprint hasn't been trademarked. But iblade 2.0 has.

 

Blueprint could just be a code name that isn't meant to mean anything. Just a name they won't ever use ?

 

To me, Blueprint sounds like a club that Tour pros wanted made. They gave Ping all the "blueprints" they wanted in a forged blade and then Ping went ahead and made it according to their specifications.

 

Per Mr. Solheim, this is a correct assertion. He told me that it will be a Tour weight” iron, etc, ie: slightly on the heavy side, straighter leading edge, thin top line, very little offset, all that. It’s a no-compromise forged blade iron. I’ve scheduled my VIP fitting for Monday and hopefully I’ll be able to see the club. I’m going to try and put together a low SW set (probably i500) but I sure had my heart set on the “blueprint” but he said “no chance”. The heads are consistently “Tour heavy”.

[SUMM1T]

I was told they’ll be coming in limited release sometime early summer.

[ZAP]

Tour heavy. I like the sound of that.

[gricky]

These things are going to come out and Ping is going to ask for $2k+ retail. I hate that I am a consumer.

[TheMoneyShot]

I was told they’ll be coming in limited release sometime early summer.

 

And there you have it folks!

[DRRicks]

I just find it hard to believe that Ping will release these in a limited release. Their entire value proposition revolves around fittings. Limited editions are generally offered/ordered stock.

[SUMM1T]

I just find it hard to believe that Ping will release these in a limited release. Their entire value proposition revolves around fittings. Limited editions are generally offered/ordered stock.

 

It makes complete sense for them to do this because in all reality, not many people play blades, let alone will pay for new ones. Most of us would rather buy 1 or 2 models older at a quarter of the price. So, it wouldn't make sense for them to release these in their normal quantities because they wouldn't see a return on that investment. Too many others in the blade market that have a clear advantage on them. They won't even offer their accounts "fitting" heads. They are just going to give them actual glued in irons for fitting purposes and it's up to the accounts to stock as many of them as they think they need.

 

These things are going to come out and Ping is going to ask for $2k+ retail. I hate that I am a consumer.

 

I would not be surprised if they were $225+ an iron. And, to be honest, I'm not upset about that really. I'll be playing a set of them for sure. I truly am excited about these, more so than any other iron they've released in a while.

[dpb5031]

I will own them if they're released

[bladehunter]

You’re welcome people.

 

It. Cannot be a coincidence that when i start playing ping , they developed an iron for me.

 

 

 

 

( easy there ping guys. A little humor never hurt anyone ).

[Jordan Speeth]

You're welcome people.

 

It. Cannot be a coincidence that when i start playing ping , they developed an iron for me.

 

 

 

 

( easy there ping guys. A little humor never hurt anyone ).

 

 

Impossible!....these have got my name all over them....

[TheMoneyShot]

I will own them if they're released

 

That’s what I like to hear!

[PowderedToastMan]

These will be too expensive and not very durable. My S55’s remain safe in my bag. I will kiss them goodnight and thank them for their diligent work.

[SUMM1T]

These will be too expensive and not very durable. My S55’s remain safe in my bag. I will kiss them goodnight and thank them for their diligent work.

 

Too expensive compared to what? We literally don’t know a price point yet. And where did you get your info on durability? Seems a bit premature, but that may be how you roll.

[TheMoneyShot]

These will be too expensive and not very durable. My S55’s remain safe in my bag. I will kiss them goodnight and thank them for their diligent work.

 

Too expensive compared to what? We literally don’t know a price point yet. And where did you get your info on durability? Seems a bit premature, but that may be how you roll.

 

Oh boy, shots fired...

[PowderedToastMan]

These will be too expensive and not very durable. My S55’s remain safe in my bag. I will kiss them goodnight and thank them for their diligent work.

 

Too expensive compared to what? We literally don’t know a price point yet. And where did you get your info on durability? Seems a bit premature, but that may be how you roll. ��

Let me make this super clear for you, because you might be new around here and not know about me. I am a genius. Sometimes I contribute to Wikipedia with no references needed because I have such a resounding amount of knowledge and wisdom.

 

Now that we have that out of the way, I'll use some evidence and reasoning to systematically demolish everything you said.

 

1. PING offers a forged iron in the i500. It is more expensive than their i210, a cast club, which was released at the same time. Of the major OEM's, the i500 is one of the priciest sets of irons. Remember, the blueprint is forged. This club, at best, will be priced at least as high as the i500. Logic does not point to this set somehow being less than the i500, considering how PING has priced their forged offerings over the last decade and the overall rise in forged iron set costs in the golf industry. There is a precedent set here for PING forged pricing which I'm simply accounting for, along with an industry-wide practice to charge more for forged irons in recent years.

 

2. PING has released a couple of forged irons in the last 10 years. Both wore down far faster than any of their cast offerings, even the new irons with the hydropearl finish. Which leads me to my next point.

 

3. This iron will likely have a hydropearl finish, which wears quickly. We then have a forged iron that doesn't have a resilient finish. These add up to an iron that is going to wear faster than any PING cast iron (for example, the current iBlade, which will indisputably have more durability than a forged iron).

 

4. Fully forged, one piece blades typically wear within a season or two of regular use (bag chatter, brown spots, etc). Why would a solid, one piece forging from PING be any different? Unlike PING's casting process, they have no propriety forging process that allows a pure forged feel as well as enhanced durability.

 

5. The blueprint iron was designed based on tour players preferences in a forged iron. This leads us to believe that PING will not be forging their blade with 17-4 stainless steel or some other hard metal. They will be using a soft metal, or else the iron is going to sound and feel awful, which tour players do not like with an iron (and judging by player feedback, the tour staff really like this club). There is no CTP structure that exists in this iron and it's not hollow to fill with TPE. The feel and sound will need to come solely from a soft metal.

 

6. I'm not premature. I last as long as my S55's.

[golfing_penguin]

These will be too expensive and not very durable. My S55’s remain safe in my bag. I will kiss them goodnight and thank them for their diligent work.

 

Too expensive compared to what? We literally don’t know a price point yet. And where did you get your info on durability? Seems a bit premature, but that may be how you roll. ��

Let me make this super clear for you, because you might be new around here and not know about me. I am a genius. Sometimes I contribute to Wikipedia with no references needed because I have such a resounding amount of knowledge and wisdom.

 

Now that we have that out of the way, I'll use some evidence and reasoning to systematically demolish everything you said.

 

1. PING offers a forged iron in the i500. It is more expensive than their i210, a cast club, which was released at the same time. Of the major OEM's, the i500 is one of the priciest sets of irons. Remember, the blueprint is forged. This club, at best, will be priced at least as high as the i500. Logic does not point to this set somehow being less than the i500, considering how PING has priced their forged offerings over the last decade and the overall rise in forged iron set costs in the golf industry. There is a precedent set here for PING forged pricing which I'm simply accounting for, along with an industry-wide practice to charge more for forged irons in recent years.

 

2. PING has released a couple of forged irons in the last 10 years. Both wore down far faster than any of their cast offerings, even the new irons with the hydropearl finish. Which leads me to my next point.

 

3. This iron will likely have a hydropearl finish, which wears quickly. We then have a forged iron that doesn't have a resilient finish. These add up to an iron that is going to wear faster than any PING cast iron (for example, the current iBlade, which will indisputably have more durability than a forged iron).

 

4. Fully forged, one piece blades typically wear within a season or two of regular use (bag chatter, brown spots, etc). Why would a solid, one piece forging from PING be any different? Unlike PING's casting process, they have no propriety forging process that allows a pure forged feel as well as enhanced durability.

 

5. The blueprint iron was designed based on tour players preferences in a forged iron. This leads us to believe that PING will not be forging their blade with 17-4 stainless steel or some other hard metal. They will be using a soft metal, or else the iron is going to sound and feel awful, which tour players do not like with an iron (and judging by player feedback, the tour staff really like this club). There is no CTP structure that exists in this iron and it's not hollow to fill with TPE. The feel and sound will need to come solely from a soft metal.

 

6. I'm not premature. I last as long as my S55's.

 

I'm disappointed there isn't a mic drop emoji with that solid riposte!

[cz13X4]

I think your durability reasoning is mediocre. Their forged durability is as good as anyone elses..... Which is all faster wearing than any cast iron ping or otherwise. Your original comment isnt comparing them to ping cast but your reasoning is, so you should include all forged irons as less durable. Their hydro pearl wears terribly I can agree to that. S55 are a workhorse I agree there too.

[TheMoneyShot]

These will be too expensive and not very durable. My S55’s remain safe in my bag. I will kiss them goodnight and thank them for their diligent work.

 

Too expensive compared to what? We literally don’t know a price point yet. And where did you get your info on durability? Seems a bit premature, but that may be how you roll. ��

Let me make this super clear for you, because you might be new around here and not know about me. I am a genius. Sometimes I contribute to Wikipedia with no references needed because I have such a resounding amount of knowledge and wisdom.

 

Now that we have that out of the way, I'll use some evidence and reasoning to systematically demolish everything you said.

 

1. PING offers a forged iron in the i500. It is more expensive than their i210, a cast club, which was released at the same time. Of the major OEM's, the i500 is one of the priciest sets of irons. Remember, the blueprint is forged. This club, at best, will be priced at least as high as the i500. Logic does not point to this set somehow being less than the i500, considering how PING has priced their forged offerings over the last decade and the overall rise in forged iron set costs in the golf industry. There is a precedent set here for PING forged pricing which I'm simply accounting for, along with an industry-wide practice to charge more for forged irons in recent years.

 

2. PING has released a couple of forged irons in the last 10 years. Both wore down far faster than any of their cast offerings, even the new irons with the hydropearl finish. Which leads me to my next point.

 

3. This iron will likely have a hydropearl finish, which wears quickly. We then have a forged iron that doesn't have a resilient finish. These add up to an iron that is going to wear faster than any PING cast iron (for example, the current iBlade, which will indisputably have more durability than a forged iron).

 

4. Fully forged, one piece blades typically wear within a season or two of regular use (bag chatter, brown spots, etc). Why would a solid, one piece forging from PING be any different? Unlike PING's casting process, they have no propriety forging process that allows a pure forged feel as well as enhanced durability.

 

5. The blueprint iron was designed based on tour players preferences in a forged iron. This leads us to believe that PING will not be forging their blade with 17-4 stainless steel or some other hard metal. They will be using a soft metal, or else the iron is going to sound and feel awful, which tour players do not like with an iron (and judging by player feedback, the tour staff really like this club). There is no CTP structure that exists in this iron and it's not hollow to fill with TPE. The feel and sound will need to come solely from a soft metal.

 

6. I'm not premature. I last as long as my S55's.

 

Post of the day for sure:)

[scratchswinger]

Do you guys remember when Ping was cool in 1995?

 

This would be the only Ping iron that has interested me in a long time.

[kcsf]

These will be too expensive and not very durable. My S55’s remain safe in my bag. I will kiss them goodnight and thank them for their diligent work.

 

Too expensive compared to what? We literally don’t know a price point yet. And where did you get your info on durability? Seems a bit premature, but that may be how you roll. ��

 

Oh boy, shots fired...

 

I see what you did there.

 

I'm in for 8-PW.

 

PTM, while I agree with most of your above post, I think your reasoning for high pricing is off. A one piece forged head (if that's what the Blueprint is) should be substantially less expensive to manufacture than a two piece cast/forged head as the i500 as you have the casting, forging, and welding of the two together. That isn't cheap or easy. I see these coming in the same, or ever so slightly higher than the i500's. Definitely under $200 a club.

[towncryer]

I can't stop thinking about these stupid clubs.

 

The fact that Glide Forged did make it to retail bodes well for Blueprint. There was no reason for them to make a forged blade wedge available to the masses...just like there's no reason for them to make a forged blade iron available to the masses. The price tag of $200 per club on Glide Forged is (to me) where you can expect Blueprint if it does come out...$1600 for a set of eight irons puts them above what the other big OEMs are charging for forged blades.

 

As far as durability is concerned...they'll be as durable as Glide Forged wedges. The hydropearl finish on my iBlades has held up beautifully since I got them in August of 2016. No major damage at all...just bag chatter and such. If chatter and a light marring is what we consider an iron "wearing down," then I guess my iBlades have already worn down.

 

All forgings are going to be susceptible to dings and wear...I grazed a flat rock on the range with a Titleist 712 MB that put the weirdest ding in the leading edge, but I just put it in a clamp and tapped it flat with a hammer (with foil between the hammer and club). Tools not jewels :)

 

Glide Forged (and Glide 2.0 stealth) uses 8620 carbon...which are alloys and not pure carbon. I'm guessing that's what Blueprint will be. So...maybe a little more durable than buttery soft 1025 or something else.