Two golfers, two swings, which is better (just a bit of fun..)

[milesgiles]

45 minutes ago, TheDeanAbides said:

No way one of these is you. 

 

Well..

[half lung]

Player B has a more fluid swing, although hitting the worse of the 2 shots on the videos.  

[TheDeanAbides]

20 minutes ago, milesgiles said:

 

Well..

Berlimey...

[RichieHunt]

I think Player B would be the better player.  He's bring the force straight down instead of along the shaft.  Hit tilts are far better and has more pressure forward at impact than player A who has almost none at all.  I expect player A to have more issues with controlling the face, the low point and a lack of speed which is a bad combination.  I think player B has a few more extreme pieces to his swing, but with his quality tilts at impact and shifting the pressure forward enough in the downswing he has figured out how to make it work, even if it's not aesthetically pleasing.  

 

That's my .02.

 

 

 

RH

[milesgiles]

Well it’s now roughly 12-8 in favour of B. Interesting 

[TheDeanAbides]

Time to give?

[GolfTurkey]

2 hours ago, milesgiles said:

 

Also loved the description of A’s ‘miss’...

 

Miss??

 

Helluva golfer who doesn't have one (using the common definition of "miss" as a bad shot, not a whiff)

[GoTime]

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Edited December 17, 2020 by GoTime

[milesgiles]

1 hour ago, GolfTurkey said:

 

Helluva golfer who doesn't have one (using the common definition of "miss" as a bad shot, not a whiff)

 

Undeniably, but he actually said that of the shot that was hit, not the swing in general.

[b_f_c_99]

The OP is swing A,  it looks the same as his current swing coached by youtube video.

[Wesquire]

39 minutes ago, b_f_c_99 said:

The OP is swing A,  it looks the same as his current swing coached by youtube video.

You mean swing B?

[b_f_c_99]

19 minutes ago, Wesquire said:

You mean swing B?

Sorry yes B

[milesgiles]

5 hours ago, b_f_c_99 said:

Sorry yes B

 

 

Er..no 

[TheDeanAbides]

If either of them can break 85 I'll eat my hat... *munch, munch* 

[br61]

B, holds his club through the impact longer. Both has their own swing flaws but I can see A hitting wilder shots.

[Simpsonia]

My theory: OP is swing A attempting to prove that his swing is better than his mate's swing. Player B is probably in the middle of some swing changes, likely with a coach, and handicap is the higher of the two. Player A has grooved slight OTT stall flip for a long time so has more consistent ball striking day to day, but is probably the shorter of the two off the tee, and can be more inconsistent if his timing is off on a given day. 

[jholz]

I still think it's posture and balance that really separates the two players. 

[milesgiles]

5 minutes ago, Simpsonia said:

My theory: OP is swing A attempting to prove that his swing is better than his mate's swing. Player B is probably in the middle of some swing changes, likely with a coach, and handicap is the higher of the two. Player A has grooved slight OTT stall flip for a long time so has more consistent ball striking day to day, but is probably the shorter of the two off the tee, and can be more inconsistent if his timing is off on a given day. 

 

“OTT”

[TLUBulldogGolf]

So you're really not going to reveal anything?

[TheDeanAbides]

30 minutes ago, milesgiles said:

 

“OTT”

I think it's time for the reveal. The masses are becoming agitated...

[Simpsonia]

26 minutes ago, milesgiles said:

 

“OTT”

 

Maybe OTT is the wrong term, you're steep early and shallow late, when most pros advocate the other way around, shallow early and steep late. Other experts like @glk can probably explain it better than I can. But as I see it, you're steep early in the downswing at P5, drop your trail shoulder in an attempt to shallow out late and get the club very under plane by P6, which requires you to stall and flip to square the club face. 

 

Don't get me wrong, your handicap shows that you've grooved this move extremely well and can play good golf with it. But that doesn't mean it's not a swing flaw. 

[milesgiles]

Okey doke in for sh!tstorm..

 

im player A, 2.7. Brother is B (hammersia screen name, 10ish although he did get to 7. Allegedly. (My swing is in my sig btw, actual speed)

 

he would agree I’m much straighter and a club shorter. My chipping and putting is much better. I hit 10 greens on average, 240 drive, 150 ball speed at most. Hammersia touches 160 but his miss is two ways and big. Off the golf course big.

 

Hammersia can contribute I’m sure he will, just speaking for myself I’ve changed my backswing a ton this year and do clear better than I did but it’s still an issue. I am going to experiment with the Monte cast drill.

 

everyone can draw their own conclusions, but as I said in a pm to a couple of guys, perhaps, ‘perhaps’ it is possible to play reasonably well with a flip, especially if like me you like to think of sweeping rather than compressing the ball? 

 

[MK7Golf21]

probably would of got better responses had you not shown a top for your friends swing. He pretty much missed the ball

[hammersia]

Er right I’m being dragged into this, I’m B

 

1)It was about 40 degrees F and an earthworm stuck it’s head out as I was hitting the ball which distracted me.

2) I’m off 7 now miles is trolling slightly 

3) Simpsonia was spot on, I’m having lessons, working on a stronger grip, flatter left wrist, staying more on my heels which I didn’t manage in that particular swing. Lockdown in the UK has interrupted me grooving anything much yet.

[GoTime]

 

1 hour ago, milesgiles said:

Okey doke in for sh!tstorm..

 

im player A, 2.7. Brother is B (hammersia screen name, 10ish although he did get to 7. Allegedly. (My swing is in my sig btw, actual speed)

 

he would agree I’m much straighter and a club shorter. My chipping and putting is much better. I hit 10 greens on average, 240 drive, 150 ball speed at most. Hammersia touches 160 but his miss is two ways and big. Off the golf course big.

 

Hammersia can contribute I’m sure he will, just speaking for myself I’ve changed my backswing a ton this year and do clear better than I did but it’s still an issue. I am going to experiment with the Monte cast drill.

 

everyone can draw their own conclusions, but as I said in a pm to a couple of guys, perhaps, ‘perhaps’ it is possible to play reasonably well with a flip, especially if like me you like to think of sweeping rather than compressing the ball? 

 

 

 

You don't have a flip dude.

[TheDeanAbides]

1 minute ago, GoTime said:

 

 

 

You don't have a flip dude.

That's what I thought too after a second look. It's a perfectly decent release. 

[jholz]

Anytime anything is going wrong in your swing, WRX will simply reply: "you're flipping."

[b_f_c_99]

1 hour ago, milesgiles said:

Okey doke in for sh!tstorm..

 

im player A, 2.7. Brother is B (hammersia screen name, 10ish although he did get to 7. Allegedly. (My swing is in my sig btw, actual speed)

 

he would agree I’m much straighter and a club shorter. My chipping and putting is much better. I hit 10 greens on average, 240 drive, 150 ball speed at most. Hammersia touches 160 but his miss is two ways and big. Off the golf course big.

 

Hammersia can contribute I’m sure he will, just speaking for myself I’ve changed my backswing a ton this year and do clear better than I did but it’s still an issue. I am going to experiment with the Monte cast drill.

 

everyone can draw their own conclusions, but as I said in a pm to a couple of guys, perhaps, ‘perhaps’ it is possible to play reasonably well with a flip, especially if like me you like to think of sweeping rather than compressing the ball? 

 

I thought that A was you but I let Wesquire talk me out of it!   Couple ways of looking at the golf swing.

 

1.  Do you try and fix everything that is considered a 'fault' even if it's something that your athletic instinct tells you to do and you can repeat it?

 

or

 

2.  Take that 'fault'  and find the matching parts that work around it.  For most people I would say this will be more effective.  How many people really have the hours to unlearn something they do naturally?

[Chip Duffer]

2 hours ago, milesgiles said:

Okey doke in for sh!tstorm..

 

im player A, 2.7. Brother is B (hammersia screen name, 10ish although he did get to 7. Allegedly. (My swing is in my sig btw, actual speed)

 

he would agree I’m much straighter and a club shorter. My chipping and putting is much better. I hit 10 greens on average, 240 drive, 150 ball speed at most. Hammersia touches 160 but his miss is two ways and big. Off the golf course big.

 

Hammersia can contribute I’m sure he will, just speaking for myself I’ve changed my backswing a ton this year and do clear better than I did but it’s still an issue. I am going to experiment with the Monte cast drill.

 

everyone can draw their own conclusions, but as I said in a pm to a couple of guys, perhaps, ‘perhaps’ it is possible to play reasonably well with a flip, especially if like me you like to think of sweeping rather than compressing the ball? 

 

Miles, I saw the swing in your signature and it doesn’t appear that you set your hands nearly as early in the backswing and the tempo seems smoother. Perhaps it is the normal speed, or you were thinking through the shot more during the vid as player A. 

 

As a 2.7, you’d kick my butt each and every round, so what do I know. 🥴

 

Heck, I had you with the 2 way miss and got it totally wrong.

 

I admire ire that you both have your swings here for us to consider. It gives me some perspective on my own swing and the processes I have gone through. 

 

I also like like the work that Hammersia is doing with his swing. It looks like he’s going to be bringing his handicap down with what he’s working on. 

 

Thanks for for letting us play along.

[milesgiles]

2 hours ago, Redjeep83 said:

probably would of got better responses had you not shown a top for your friends swing. He pretty much missed the ball

 

I hadn’t really noticed until I posted it