Azinger tv commentary

[BC33]

2 hours ago, Greg_B said:

 

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but Joe Buck (who is pretty good BTW) (a) isn't a color commentator but an anchor, a very different role; and (b) doesn't do golf on TV any more since Fox sold their rights to NBC.

There's quite a few who can't differentiate who's role is what.  Feherty doesn't do what Bones does.  Maltbie doesn't do what Hicks does.  Dottie Pepper doesn't do the same job as IBF.  Faldo and Azinger are supposed to be the lead analysts.  Like Johnny Miller and Ken Venturi before them.

 

Azinger sits in a position that has historically been a Major champion and who is expected to contribute something useful to the telecast.  In that respect, he swings and misses pretty consistently.  I've got to think that NBC makes a change in the off-season.  If I was them I would give Phil a blank check and tell him he can play all the CBS tournaments he wants to and miss the cuts on the NBC events!

[MK7Golf21]

I dont mind azinger. Don't really care for these new on course commentators though, "Woody" , "Colt Knost" suck just like billy ray brown, would rather listen to silence.

[SEP1006]

21 hours ago, goudok said:

I actually do not like him at all as a TV commentator.  To me he is absolutely the worst.

 

Agree with this 1000%. Doesn't know when to shut up and just rambles on to hear himself talk.

[juliette91]

Well one thing's for sure, you all have plenty of passion for golf and that's surely a good thing!  The only comments that I think I need to react to are those casting Nobel Prize winners as ordinary Joes and Janes who pulled strings and got the award with little or no credibility.  All I can say is that is a lot of baloney.

[3whacker]

Azinger is going to age himself out sooner rather than later , with each passing year he has less and less in common with those currently playing, NBC needs someone fresh but unfortunately Justin Leonard isn't it, David Duval will probably take a run at champion events this year, and Phil with a five year exemption isn't in any hurry to give it up...not sure anyone is actively campaigning for the spot right now

[BNGL]

Is anyone jaded like me who immediately thought upon seeing these threads, “these two are the same person looking to start something.” Just a thought

[goudok]

I don't exactly know if you need someone who played golf at the highest level, by highest level i mean someone who won multiple times and majors.  Those guys are usually arrogant.  Anyone who understands golf how hard the game is, with a good voice and good personality, someone who can take and give jabs without it crossing the line.  Azinger ain't it, he just rambles.  I liked Miller for the most part, but over his last few years he became intolerable.  

[Jack Pearsall]

he is still new at it...not the easiest job...I remember Venturi and he had his issues too, carping on the same thing all weekend...Azinger is more critical, and as players, we know he's right about it...dont really have a problem with him...there are many far worse color guys...give him some seasoning...

 

 

[parforme]

Don't understand all the Zinger hate.  He has some idiosyncrasies like everyone does, but he has the resume and he calls it like he sees it, including criticism when a player hits a bad shot, and that's what I want.  Then again I also liked Johnny Miller but seemed to remember a lot of criticism when he was announcing.

[chipa]

I seem to remember many years ago(20+) that Johnny Miller was pretty critical of certain guys, like Jim Furyk and Andy North, which I never understood by all accounts Furyk and North seemed to be good competitors and gentlemen as well. Maybe commentators put their foot in their mouth because they are under pressure to say something.

[ilikegolf26]

Azingers problem, to me, is, despite, being a golf announcer, he doesn’t know very much about the tour or it’s players. From talking about Corey Conners being a great putter to Cantlay “making his money” with the putter (he’s also not a fantastic putter throughout his career) to Carlos Ortiz being one of the longest guys on tour every week. These are things that would take like 10 seconds to look up their strokes gained stats or any other stat that are available in the booth to these guys. So I’m really not sure why he doesn’t just do that but he seems to just get caught in the moment (Cantlays best putting week ever and equates that to Cantlay being one of the best putters on tour over his entire career, which isn’t close to the case) and not bother to actually verify what he’s saying is true or not. 

Edited September 1, 2021 by ilikegolf26

[goudok]

8 hours ago, parforme said:

Don't understand all the Zinger hate.  He has some idiosyncrasies like everyone does, but he has the resume and he calls it like he sees it, including criticism when a player hits a bad shot, and that's what I want.  Then again I also liked Johnny Miller but seemed to remember a lot of criticism when he was announcing.

Having the resume and being a commentator are two different things.  Johnny Miller’s voice alone is 100 times better.  If a non golfer tunes into golf when Azinger is talking they instantly tune out.  My wife is a prime example.

[ShowMe]

20 hours ago, juliette91 said:

thank you straightshot 7!  I might be in the minority it sounds like but I do.  I've found that once you do or don't like something or someone we're hardwired to find supporting evidence for our initial assessment.  Changing that dynamic is very very difficult.  That's not my opinion, that's social science research by Nobel Prize winner Daniel Kahneman.

aka, Confirmation Bias.

 

The bias effect "is stronger for emotionally charged issues and deeply entrenched beliefs."  Not sure that Paul Azinger's announcing is an emotionally charged issue, though, although I do find myself yelling at the tv when he says something stupid.

[ShowMe]

11 hours ago, BNGL said:

Is anyone jaded like me who immediately thought upon seeing these threads, “these two are the same person looking to start something.” Just a thought

That is quite the conspiracy theory.  

[juliette91]

Uh oh you got me, I'm really Paul's sister, dammit you're good!

[freeze16172002]

Azinger is so stiff and unnatural. Its a dumpster fire listening to him trying to find something cool to say

[dbleag]

11 hours ago, juliette91 said:

Uh oh you got me, I'm really Paul's sister, dammit you're good!

You must not have watched LPGA golf when they had Azinger commenting on the Ladies US Open.  He absolutely could not pronounce a considerable amount of the player's names.

 

You would think, as a paid commentator early in his career, he would have made it a point to know the players in the event in which he was offering expert commentary.

 

He was whisked out of Ladies golf faster than Lanny Wadkins' backswing.

[1mcozik]

Golf commentator are annoying overall. They all give off this condescending tone with their commentary.

[ShowMe]

I finally figured out what Azinger sounds like.  He has the strangest voice.  He sounds like somebody who's been constipated for 3 weeks.

[Go Cougs]

On 9/3/2021 at 7:04 AM, dbleag said:

You must not have watched LPGA golf when they had Azinger commenting on the Ladies US Open.  He absolutely could not pronounce a considerable amount of the player's names.

 

You would think, as a paid commentator early in his career, he would have made it a point to know the players in the event in which he was offering expert commentary.

 

He was whisked out of Ladies golf faster than Lanny Wadkins' backswing.

Whisked out of Ladies golf and onto the PGA Tour?

[buckethat72]

On 9/2/2021 at 1:32 AM, goudok said:

I don't exactly know if you need someone who played golf at the highest level, by highest level i mean someone who won multiple times and majors.  Those guys are usually arrogant.  Anyone who understands golf how hard the game is, with a good voice and good personality, someone who can take and give jabs without it crossing the line.  Azinger ain't it, he just rambles.  I liked Miller for the most part, but over his last few years he became intolerable.  

Agree - the risk with the guys that played at a high level is that they assume they will always know everything about the current game when actually they know a lot about how the game used to be played and are too lazy to do the work and research to stay up to date with today's players, their stats strengths and weaknesses and how they play the game.  They are supposed to be in the analyst role but they are not analysing anything just saying whatever comes into their head that is based on nothing of substance or some memory of the game from 1995.

 

[Soloman1]

I wonder if announcers are now being paid by the cliche? It sure seems that way. Silence can be more meaningful to the audience than yet another cliche.

 

Feherty might want to spend the off season learning to pronounce Cantaly's name. It's not Cant-a-lay.

[Obsessed]

He has - Intestinal fortitude

[juliette91]

I reread all the posts and want to thank you all for your comments.  Actually did not anticipate such strong feelings but I’m quite pleased to see them, even the ones that are just sarcastic without adding anything to the discussion.  It means that you care regardless of the way you express that ( my advice-if you want to add to any discussion state reasons.  Flippant f.u. type responses only make others not care about your posts.)

 

So I watched alot of Sunday’s coverage thinking about the negative posts from many of you—-looking for problems

In his commentary so I could be a more critical viewer.  And I found a number of those kinds of comments many of you found objectionable.

 

But in the end I gave up looking for Azinger’s missteps and found myself caught up in his passionate, enthusiastic —and for me—knowledgeable commentary.  That freed me up to enjoy top notch pressure golf accomplishments.

Edited September 6, 2021 by juliette91

[Tzoid]

I searched to see if anyone started this thread and here we are....  Paul is a good man but I think he tries to hard and as others have commented his analogies are pretty bad. I can 

imagine anyone under age 50 don't know what the hell he's talking about because he often brings up 70s,80s,90s references. 

 

Who should they replace him with ???  

[bscinstnct]

4 hours ago, juliette91 said:

I reread all the posts and want to thank you all for your comments.  Actually did not anticipate such strong feelings but I’m quite pleased to see them, even the ones that are just sarcastic without adding anything to the discussion.  It means that you care regardless of the way you express that ( my advice-if you want to add to any discussion state reasons.  Flippant f.u. type responses only make others not care about your posts.)

 

So I watched alot of Sunday’s coverage thinking about the negative posts from many of you—-looking for problems

In his commentary so I could be a more critical viewer.  And I found a number of those kinds of comments many of you found objectionable.

 

But in the end I gave up looking for Azinger’s missteps and found myself caught up in his passionate, enthusiastic —and for me—knowledgeable commentary.  That freed me up to enjoy top notch pressure golf accomplishments.

 

Yes. He’s all 3….

 

“passionate, enthusiastic —and for me—knowledgeable”

 

However, he’s also just simply inarticulate, his delivery is sloppy, and hes totally brutal to listen to. 

 

Edited September 6, 2021 by bscinstnct

[Smpear]

Wow, I must be in the strong minority but I love me some Paul Azinger. Love the emotion in his voice when he wants to emphasize a point, and commentary he’ll make like… “You have to give up control to get it”, is something most of us can understand and gives insight into the mental challenge these guys are dealing with. 

[ShowMe]

8 hours ago, juliette91 said:

I reread all the posts and want to thank you all for your comments.  Actually did not anticipate such strong feelings but I’m quite pleased to see them, even the ones that are just sarcastic without adding anything to the discussion.  It means that you care regardless of the way you express that ( my advice-if you want to add to any discussion state reasons.  Flippant f.u. type responses only make others not care about your posts.)

 

So I watched alot of Sunday’s coverage thinking about the negative posts from many of you—-looking for problems

In his commentary so I could be a more critical viewer.  And I found a number of those kinds of comments many of you found objectionable.

 

But in the end I gave up looking for Azinger’s missteps and found myself caught up in his passionate, enthusiastic —and for me—knowledgeable commentary.  That freed me up to enjoy top notch pressure golf accomplishments.

Wow.  An Azinger fangirl.  Just when you thought you'd seen everything.  🙂

 

[ShowMe]

7 minutes ago, Smpear said:

Wow, I must be in the strong minority but I love me some Paul Azinger. Love the emotion in his voice when he wants to emphasize a point, and commentary he’ll make like… “You have to give up control to get it”, is something most of us can understand and gives insight into the mental challenge these guys are dealing with. 

What does that even mean?  lol

[Noles]

14 hours ago, Tzoid said:

I searched to see if anyone started this thread and here we are....  Paul is a good man but I think he tries to hard and as others have commented his analogies are pretty bad. I can 

imagine anyone under age 50 don't know what the hell he's talking about because he often brings up 70s,80s,90s references. 

 

Who should they replace him with ???  

Peter Jacobsen would be an easy switch.