Callaway UW

[mackepa]

12 hours ago, Cactus Jack said:

Are you guys getting the distance boost primarily due to low spin? For example, do folks find the 17* spinning in the 2,000s…basically driver territory? 
 

I’ll find out soon enough as I impulse bought a 17* with a AD IZ 85x. Just curious what I got myself into 😀. 

I have a 19* with an AD IZ 8 stiff that just doesn’t fit my gap that I’m gonna get rid off. It’s a cannon. 

[FirePro]

14 hours ago, gg38 said:

What shaft are you going for?

Now that I won the bid and paid for the shaft on ebay it is the Aldila VS Proto by You X 95g which is a higher launching shaft that I am going to lower with some aggressive tipping.  Current shaft is the UST AxivCore Tour Green 95 which is similar launch and spin I believe. 

[FirePro]

22 minutes ago, mackepa said:

I have a 19* with an AD IZ 8 stiff that just doesn’t fit my gap that I’m gonna get rid off. It’s a cannon. 

When I got fit I found the 19* a little much myself and is why I opted for the 21*

[gg38]

3 hours ago, FirePro said:

Now that I won the bid and paid for the shaft on ebay it is the Aldila VS Proto by You X 95g which is a higher launching shaft that I am going to lower with some aggressive tipping.  Current shaft is the UST AxivCore Tour Green 95 which is similar launch and spin I believe. 

 

Ended up going with 21 UW with Ventus Black 8x

[FirePro]

1 hour ago, gg38 said:

 

Ended up going with 21 UW with Ventus Black 8x

Sounds like a good setup.  I'm heavy on all my stuff and probably going to go heavier in the Driving Iron as well as I get a little pully with it.

[Edwijn]

 So I need some help fellow club junkies…

I hit the UW 17 club today since y’all wrx:era had me sold last night after 40 pages and 3 hours browsing this topic… didn’t even plan on changing my 3 wood tsi2 out for a callaway (not a fan of the brand itself) but here I am.

 

recently bought a xforged UT 2 iron from callaway to move away from hybrids. Best idea I ever got in terms of bag gapping. I was just set on moving on to a 3iron X forged bent weak with nippon 130 shaft to gap it nice to a T100 5 iron thinking that would solve my 235-240 club since the 2 iron flies like maniac (260-265). But as set composition that leaves me short of what I’m actually looking to do. The problem is that I’m actually hitting my 2 iron to well since it flies in to my 3 wood territory. I rather send out a low bullet with controlled flight then hit a spiny 3 wood. So that threewood has not getting any action at all since a month ago and I’m playing my best golf getting +0,8 from a 1,8 earlier in the season. 
 

so I’m thinking of replacing my 3 wood with UW @17 with Tour AD XC 8 x stiff shaft I can pull from my TSi2. Bend my 2 iron a degree weaker to 19 degrees which gives less offset that I prefer anyways. That leaves better gapping to my 4 iron T100s @ 1 weak at 23 which I like but gaps funny to my 2 iron. So instead of taking care of that issue, you have me believing that the UW can replace my 3 wood. So I set out just to test the UW today, and man does this thing fly..

got the same carry as a 3 wood on good enough strikes, more roll out by the looks of it. What I really prefer is the shorter shaft since I play it in all my clubs (usually with a lot of tinkering with SW), the club is actually 2,25 inches shorter and 2 degrees less but flies effortlessly the same distance from about 30 shots played… That still leaves me questions like how and why, can’t really believe the numbers stack up like that. What are yours thoughts on this black magic fu%#ery Callaway got in to this club? Does it present other problems for your bag like height, spin, flyers etc?
 

Tell me something bad about this club 😅

[Cactus Jack]

I just finished up some preliminary testing. I compared the clubs noted below, used Chromesoft X balls, and used my GC2 launch monitor set at sea level and perfect conditions. I hit 10 shots off the deck with each club and tossed out the best and worst shots. 
 

Clubs Tested: All tested in stock configurations. 

 

- UW 17*, 41.5” Tour AD IZ 8x

- Cobra King Tec 17*, 41.5” MMT 8x

- Stealth + 15* 3W, 43” Tour AD XC 7x

-Stealth + 19* 5W, 42” Tour AD XC 8x
 

Results:

 

In my hands the Stealth + 3W is in its own class and performs like a 3W should. None of the other clubs could touch it, and the UW would not be a direct replacement. 
 

The UW, Cobra, and Stealth + 5 wood are largely interchangeable. The biggest difference in my hands was dispersion. The UW went left, the Cobra right, and the 5W in between. Feel of all three are great. 
 

My first impression is the UW will likely not make it into the bag for a few reasons. First, the left misses were scary. Second, the lefts could be due to the shaft, but since it’s bonded I can’t dial it in to know for sure. Third, the Cobra is a bit more forgiving and is adjustable. 
 

More testing to come. The UW is awesome, and we’ll see if it separates itself going forward. 

Quick update:

 

I moved the weights in the Cobra to make its as draw biased as possible and intentionally tried moving the ball right to left. The Cobra might be the most fade biased hybrid I’ve ever hit. Note…I mislabeled the Cobra as it’s still 17* not 19*. 
 

Edited July 24, 2022 by Cactus Jack

[FirePro]

15 hours ago, Edwijn said:

 So I need some help fellow club junkies…

That still leaves me questions like how and why, can’t really believe the numbers stack up like that. What are yours thoughts on this black magic fu%#ery Callaway got in to this club? Does it present other problems for your bag like height, spin, flyers etc?
 

Tell me something bad about this club 😅

Probably a little black magic sprinkled in.  Im in the same boat but went with the mini driver in the 3 wood spot, 2 iron is my point and shoot club low piss missiles and the UW 21* is my into the green machine from 220 to 250.  I also want to get the UW 17* but got a deal on the mini driver so this will have to wait until I grow bored of the mini.

 

Before the Mini purchase I was contemplating going with UW 21 & 17 and getting rid of the driving iron but I have no additional clubs I need to fill the bag so not leave the option at the top of the bag.   

[Edwijn]

29 minutes ago, FirePro said:

Probably a little black magic sprinkled in.  Im in the same boat but went with the mini driver in the 3 wood spot, 2 iron is my point and shoot club low piss missiles and the UW 21* is my into the green machine from 220 to 250.  I also want to get the UW 17* but got a deal on the mini driver so this will have to wait until I grow bored of the mini.

 

Before the Mini purchase I was contemplating going with UW 21 & 17 and getting rid of the driving iron but I have no additional clubs I need to fill the bag so not leave the option at the top of the bag.   

Golf is hard, so were on the same page. I also play a mini driver in the form of a TSi4 at 43,5”. I rather have the ball in play then 5-10 yards extra on good strikes (not on average as I find the middle of the club more often then not now). That’s what I’m looking to do with the UW, I’m guessing that’s the same for you with the 300 mini driver as well?

[FirePro]

15 minutes ago, Edwijn said:

Golf is hard, so were on the same page. I also play a mini driver in the form of a TSi4 at 43,5”. I rather have the ball in play then 5-10 yards extra on good strikes (not on average as I find the middle of the club more often then not now). That’s what I’m looking to do with the UW, I’m guessing that’s the same for you with the 300 mini driver as well?

correct, the mini im going to play shorter then stock, purchasing a hotmelt gun in the coming days to bring swing weight up and remove the lead tap on a few of the clubs.

[gg38]

On 7/24/2022 at 5:04 PM, FirePro said:

Sounds like a good setup.  I'm heavy on all my stuff and probably going to go heavier in the Driving Iron as well as I get a little pully with it.

 

I'm now debating switching to a Ventus Blue or Red in 8x to make sure the launch is high enough in the 21 degree. Perfect in 3 wood, but worried the UW is already too low launch... really wish I could test these before buying! 😅

Edited July 26, 2022 by gg38

[FirePro]

1 hour ago, gg38 said:

 

I'm now debating switching to a Ventus Blue or Red in 8x to make sure the launch is high enough in the 21 degree. Perfect in 3 wood, but worried the UW is already too low launch... really wish I could test these before buying! 😅

yes testing would be nice.  the shaft I have in my 21 launch's pretty high and its a heavy mid launch shaft.  Going to be putting in a similar launching shaft but lower torque just for some stability 

[Rbsiedsc]

Has anyone hit the 21 UW in comparison to the Rogue max 7w and see how the distance and trajectory change?

[PALS-SSA]

My only issue is every UW I have owned is very upright.  Once they are bent to 57° lie, they are great.  But out of the box, they are hook machines. 

[Antmeister]

6 hours ago, PALS-SSA said:

My only issue is every UW I have owned is very upright.  Once they are bent to 57° lie, they are great.  But out of the box, they are hook machines. 

 

Were yours bent upright?

 

 

For comparison and for example Titleist 7-woods are 41.50" and 58 degree. They can be adjusted though. Cobra's "5-tour-baffler-ls"-woods at 41.75" are similar, maybe even 58.5 degrees. And if you adjust Cobra anywhere from standard setting, it always goes even more upright. Not sure why I'm writing these here, maybe thinking out loud what people consider flat or upright at these lengths.

[gg38]

22 hours ago, FirePro said:

yes testing would be nice.  the shaft I have in my 21 launch's pretty high and its a heavy mid launch shaft.  Going to be putting in a similar launching shaft but lower torque just for some stability 

 

Switched to Ventus Blue 8x! Should be a winner!

[Feelingofgreatness]

13 hours ago, PALS-SSA said:

My only issue is every UW I have owned is very upright.  Once they are bent to 57° lie, they are great.  But out of the box, they are hook machines. 

I don't get it... Isn't 57 degree lie stock on the 17 & 19 lofts? 

[driveandputtmachine]

On 7/24/2022 at 6:12 PM, Cactus Jack said:

I just finished up some preliminary testing. I compared the clubs noted below, used Chromesoft X balls, and used my GC2 launch monitor set at sea level and perfect conditions. I hit 10 shots off the deck with each club and tossed out the best and worst shots. 
 

Clubs Tested: All tested in stock configurations. 

 

- UW 17*, 41.5” Tour AD IZ 8x

- Cobra King Tec 17*, 41.5” MMT 8x

- Stealth + 15* 3W, 43” Tour AD XC 7x

-Stealth + 19* 5W, 42” Tour AD XC 8x
 

Results:

 

In my hands the Stealth + 3W is in its own class and performs like a 3W should. None of the other clubs could touch it, and the UW would not be a direct replacement. 
 

The UW, Cobra, and Stealth + 5 wood are largely interchangeable. The biggest difference in my hands was dispersion. The UW went left, the Cobra right, and the 5W in between. Feel of all three are great. 
 

My first impression is the UW will likely not make it into the bag for a few reasons. First, the left misses were scary. Second, the lefts could be due to the shaft, but since it’s bonded I can’t dial it in to know for sure. Third, the Cobra is a bit more forgiving and is adjustable. 
 

More testing to come. The UW is awesome, and we’ll see if it separates itself going forward. 

Quick update:

 

I moved the weights in the Cobra to make its as draw biased as possible and intentionally tried moving the ball right to left. The Cobra might be the most fade biased hybrid I’ve ever hit. Note…I mislabeled the Cobra as it’s still 17* not 19*. 
 

I had the lefts with the stock shaft as well.  I put in my old standby fairway wood shaft that I have loved forever and the UW is just so much better than a wood in the same spot.

 

I had a Cobra previously in that spot and hit it in too many different places, it missed right some, but also missed a few left, so it ended up being sold.

[m3bimmer2000]

I bought one and love the looks of it, but just couldnt hit the damn thing straight or high enough. Might try a different shaft.

[PALS-SSA]

14 hours ago, Feelingofgreatness said:

I don't get it... Isn't 57 degree lie stock on the 17 & 19 lofts? 

No.  They were all hook machines when I got them.  When I checked their specs, every single one of them has been upright from spec.  Once they are at 57°, they work fine.  

[Howie]

1 hour ago, PALS-SSA said:

No.  They were all hook machines when I got them.  When I checked their specs, every single one of them has been upright from spec.  Once they are at 57°, they work fine.  

 

How far from 57* were they? Who did the bending to 57*? My clubfitter indicated a 1* bend potential at most.

 

I wonder if Callaway is aware there are many of these being sent out too upright?

[PALS-SSA]

19 hours ago, Howie said:

 

How far from 57* were they? Who did the bending to 57*? My clubfitter indicated a 1* bend potential at most.

 

I wonder if Callaway is aware there are many of these being sent out too upright?

Worst one was 60°.  I have a Mitchell that can do woods and irons, and a measuring gauge, so I bent them myself.  They are pretty easy bends,  The 1° is what Callaway will do, up/flat and strong/weak.

[mc2]

17* UW for sale near me, and it's got this shaft in it. This is not a stock offering clearly, but does anyone know what this shaft is from?

 

In theory can a reg flex player like myself elevate a 17* UW off the deck?

 

It would be going in my bag in the 3W slot, testing to replace a mini driver. Mini driver is great off the tee, but I'm looking to see if I can find something that I can also hit off the deck (I can't hit the mini off the deck).

[Antmeister]

41 minutes ago, mc2 said:

17* UW for sale near me, and it's got this shaft in it. This is not a stock offering clearly, but does anyone know what this shaft is from?

 

In theory can a reg flex player like myself elevate a 17* UW off the deck?

 

It would be going in my bag in the 3W slot, testing to replace a mini driver. Mini driver is great off the tee, but I'm looking to see if I can find something that I can also hit off the deck (I can't hit the mini off the deck).

 

https://www.callawaygolf.com/golf-clubs/drivers/drivers-2021-big-bertha-b21.html

 

There you can find that shaft, some kind of a stock offering from callaway in another product. For your question I cannot answer, haven't hit one.

[bogeyfluent]

Alright golfwrxers, I'm giving up on 3 woods and was thinking of a 17 UW to replace it. I hit my 19 hybrid very well and after reading this thread, I think the 19 UW might be the better answer since these clubs are so long and it should be easier to hit off the turf. I have a G410 3 hybrid with the stock alta cb stiff shaft. Any idea which stock Callaway option would be the most similar to that?

 

I love hitting that hybrid and I'm hoping this UW will be what I need to attack par 5s and get a little closer approach shot if I need to hit it off the tee compared to my 3 hybrid. My home course is pretty open so I don't need to hit hybrid except for couple holes where water/creek comes into play with driver.

[BMC]

6 hours ago, bogeyfluent said:

Alright golfwrxers, I'm giving up on 3 woods and was thinking of a 17 UW to replace it. I hit my 19 hybrid very well and after reading this thread, I think the 19 UW might be the better answer since these clubs are so long and it should be easier to hit off the turf. I have a G410 3 hybrid with the stock alta cb stiff shaft. Any idea which stock Callaway option would be the most similar to that?

 

I love hitting that hybrid and I'm hoping this UW will be what I need to attack par 5s and get a little closer approach shot if I need to hit it off the tee compared to my 3 hybrid. My home course is pretty open so I don't need to hit hybrid except for couple holes where water/creek comes into play with driver.

This should be the perfect club for you.  The stock Hzrdus shaft works just fine for me.

[Wardonation]

Besides Callaway who can bend these flat for me? Tour Van? Will?

[Edwijn]

Update on my new Callaway UW 17 wood:

 

My first 2 rounds were played on Friday and Saturday. Really nice Swedish summer weather with a little wind but nice and warm.

 

I first played on my second home course, playing it twice in 12 holes. Hit a tee shot 255 yards uphill with perfect launch and spin against the wind. From a comparison of a 3 wood that’s where I’m usually at on that hole.

Second shot, 265 out of the green on a par 5, wind against me, tree blocking the flag, medium rough lie with the ball above my feet. Needed that shot to explode of the face to reach the green with a low launch with lots of draw curve to get it around the tree. And I struck it beautiful, almost perfect. I was sold! Eagle from 20 feet! A shot I would never play with a 3-wood…

 

second round - on my home course. Pulled it up on the hardest hole, hazards both sides and a abrupt dogleg right on the fairway making it hard to go for more then a iron to play it safe. Wind from my left making it perfect for the hole to go for a longer club. I buttoned it, 280 in the middle of fairway. Nice height to avoid any trees but lower spin. Comparing it to a 3-wood on that same hole, I would get the same length but more height putting the wind from my left to grab on hold to it a bit more and risking a water penalty. Absolutely a better flight window on a UW.

 

second shot on a long par 4, a ok but not great shot. Hold up good against the wind, with normal 3 wood distance. UW Flights lower of the face, with this particular hole always gets windy, so less likely to put a strange curv on the ball which I seen many times with a 3-wood.

 

3 shot, low pull. Not great.

 

4 shot a bit heavy in to the water. This club does not favor a high struck tee shot or more the a few mm of peg. It’s shorter the a 3-wood in a equal struck shot. Something I’ll noticed on the range as well.

 

Fun club, fits my gap as a 3 wood replacement. And is longer the my 2 iron at 19 degrees, which I was concerned about overlapping. It’s the best of both worlds, less length, more loft, easier to hit but still long and confidence inspiring in a small head shape.

[bogeyfluent]

On 7/30/2022 at 6:31 AM, BMC said:

This should be the perfect club for you.  The stock Hzrdus shaft works just fine for me.

 Good to hear. I was hoping so. I hit my 3H about 210-215, which, depending on my drive leaves me juuuust short on 1 of the par 5s. I would love to have some eagle putts now and then!

[hackalot]

Have been looking for a 17 degree and am seeing lots of used clubs with rust on face. Seems to be an issue. Are they raw 😳😂