Callaway UW

[StiffTippedShaft]

20 minutes ago, Rbsiedsc said:

So for you the stock shaft worked in the 21?

Yes. I'm am quite happy with it. I've hated previous gen Hzrdus smoke shafts when I've tested them on drivers. I don't mind it in the UW. As I mentioned, if I play it straight, it's low spin and rolls out. If I fade it, I take distance off of it and can land it softer.

 

I rarely play the tips on my course, but the last time I tried I used it on two par 3's at 220 and 210. I played the 220 hole straight landed the front of the green at 210-215, and it finished on the very back at roughly 235.

The second one at 210, I hit a cut, and is stopped about 15 feet from its pitch mark.

 

The real win was, I had a club I hit those two greens with. A very unlikely feat for myself.

But to get WRX nitpicky, I imagine there is a shaft that launches a bit more and lands a bit softer, which would be nice for the 21 degree, but I realize I should probably just be happy.

[m_w]

On 3/31/2022 at 1:43 PM, Wasabi said:

 

Thanks for the reply,

 

I'm thinking I don't want a lower flight and spin for the club in this spot...hmmm.

I can confirm this. I have the G425 7 wood, turned down 1* - the G425 is about 10-15 yards shorter for me but launches higher and lands softer. If you are a high-ball hitter trying to get it down, UW is a great option. If you struggle with launch, I would go 7 wood all-day-long.

[BallerNate]

Thanks to everyone who gave their feedback on this thread! Definitely influenced my decision to give this beauty a whirl.

 

Ordered mine at 19* from Callaway Customs +1” and 1* Up since I’m 6’7 and am having success with my Rogue ST Max OS Hybrid 4 with the same specs. The Tensei AV Blue Raw has become my go-to shaft in Woods and Hybrids, so testing the 75 S in this one.

 

We’ll see how it goes! 

[Palmydrain]

On 10/18/2021 at 1:51 PM, av1084 said:

Are people tending to more sweep this club or hit more down on it like an iron?

When I tested it, I found it better to sweep instead of hit down. To me it plays more like a wood than a hybrid. 

[Glock917]

On 10/16/2022 at 7:34 PM, supafield said:

Yes. I'm am quite happy with it. I've hated previous gen Hzrdus smoke shafts when I've tested them on drivers. I don't mind it in the UW. As I mentioned, if I play it straight, it's low spin and rolls out. If I fade it, I take distance off of it and can land it softer.

 

I rarely play the tips on my course, but the last time I tried I used it on two par 3's at 220 and 210. I played the 220 hole straight landed the front of the green at 210-215, and it finished on the very back at roughly 235.

The second one at 210, I hit a cut, and is stopped about 15 feet from its pitch mark.

 

The real win was, I had a club I hit those two greens with. A very unlikely feat for myself.

But to get WRX nitpicky, I imagine there is a shaft that launches a bit more and lands a bit softer, which would be nice for the 21 degree, but I realize I should probably just be happy.

Yeah same my man. Stock hzrdus rdx 6.5 80g fit like a dream on my 21* but just needed a bit of kick on my 17* so I went with a tour AD VR 8 tx I got on a deal and is def better with a more of a mid flight. Ideally if I had my choice I would of preferred a GD DI IZ or diamana Zf of that sorts

[Teebs]

Trying to decide between this and Apex / Apex Pro Hybrid for around the 200 yard mark

 

Hit my driver 260, 3HL around 225 so want something to sit below that and I think the 21 degree will work..is the stock shaft fairly low launching as I'm looking to get one with my preferred Tensei blue but it's a custom order and no demo available..

[TreqJosh]

9 hours ago, Teebs said:

Trying to decide between this and Apex / Apex Pro Hybrid for around the 200 yard mark

 

Hit my driver 260, 3HL around 225 so want something to sit below that and I think the 21 degree will work..is the stock shaft fairly low launching as I'm looking to get one with my preferred Tensei blue but it's a custom order and no demo available..

The 19* may replace your 3HL at 225. The 21* may be what you're after. 

 

The Hazardus Black Smoke RDX is a low launch low spin shaft.

[third-times-a-charm]

11 hours ago, Teebs said:

Trying to decide between this and Apex / Apex Pro Hybrid for around the 200 yard mark

 

Hit my driver 260, 3HL around 225 so want something to sit below that and I think the 21 degree will work..is the stock shaft fairly low launching as I'm looking to get one with my preferred Tensei blue but it's a custom order and no demo available..

I'm about 260 with driver as well and I was hitting a 24*(-1* for 23*) Apex hybrid (non Pro) about 206yds average. I also tried the 21* @ +1 for 22* about the same. They are pretty hot hybrids - you might need the 24* so be sure to try them out for gapping. My wife even plays the 24* @ +1 25* for the same distance as a 21* iron for her.

Edited October 20, 2022 by third-times-a-charm

[RunOfTheDill]

have a 19 with 70 6.0 HZDS Smoke in it.  I play a G425 with a Ping 75 X in it with my 3 wood,  I have an extra 3 wood shaft of the same.  I'm thinking of cutting it down to the same length callaway has in it already and putting it in.  Anyone have any thoughts on this?  Bad idea?

[ahg23]

Does anyone have any info on the 23 degree Apex UW? Seen it in a couple of bags recently and Johnny Wonder posted it on his instagram. Hoping this is available for retail soon...

[third-times-a-charm]

28 minutes ago, ahg23 said:

Does anyone have any info on the 23 degree Apex UW? Seen it in a couple of bags recently and Johnny Wonder posted it on his instagram. Hoping this is available for retail soon...

Tour only, been out since release.

[FirePro]

I loved this club but the first one rusted and Callaway Canada send a new one right away, played the new one once and after a week pulled it out again at the range and the new one rusted as well.  Wish I could get passed the rust but the fact that I have much older clubs that don't have this issue I question the clubs longevity.  In the process of returning it and looking for its replacement.

[coreyhr]

1 hour ago, FirePro said:

I loved this club but the first one rusted and Callaway Canada send a new one right away, played the new one once and after a week pulled it out again at the range and the new one rusted as well.  Wish I could get passed the rust but the fact that I have much older clubs that don't have this issue I question the clubs longevity.  In the process of returning it and looking for its replacement.

The rust thing is really strange. I know it's been reported multiple times now in this thread, but I live in the extremely humid deep south and have zero issues with my 17* and 21*. Don't understand what the culprit could be. I take my clubs out and store them in the house after every round, not sure if something like that could be why I've not had any problems with mine. 

[RCGA]

Any bombers out there?

 

I hit my driver 290y and 3w (15*) around 275y (carry) 

 

What are you hitting the 17* UW? 

[third-times-a-charm]

4 hours ago, FirePro said:

I loved this club but the first one rusted and Callaway Canada send a new one right away, played the new one once and after a week pulled it out again at the range and the new one rusted as well.  Wish I could get passed the rust but the fact that I have much older clubs that don't have this issue I question the clubs longevity.  In the process of returning it and looking for its replacement.

Rust in Callaway wood faces has been a thing since the Mavrik line. Has absolutely no effect on the club or its longevity, but you as the person who paid for it can feel how you like about it.

[FirePro]

19 hours ago, third-times-a-charm said:

Rust in Callaway wood faces has been a thing since the Mavrik line. Has absolutely no effect on the club or its longevity, but you as the person who paid for it can feel how you like about it.

They should have this information on the club like raw wedges if this is going to be a thing.  Callaway should own it and provide this information to the customer up front, when they do not provide this information up front it looks like a quality issue which I still believe it is.  Also I was told that when the Golftown Manager reached out to Callaway they asked if I kept it in the head cover after using it... to me this is blaming the customer for their quality issue and is not a good look.  My last high lofted wood was a 909F 5 wood that showed no signs of rust which lived a sheltered life in a headcover.  I also understand they use different materials over the years but again provide this information to the customer up front and the customer can make the decision if they want to proceed with the purchase.

 

The reason for my comment is to provide this information to people looking into this club if they are unaware of the rusting issues since the Mavrik line.  The club itself performed really good for me and I was confident when pulling it out of the bag but rusting after hitting it a hand full of times it a tough sell for me.

[stimpmeterp]

3 hours ago, FirePro said:

They should have this information on the club like raw wedges if this is going to be a thing.  Callaway should own it and provide this information to the customer up front, when they do not provide this information up front it looks like a quality issue which I still believe it is.  Also I was told that when the Golftown Manager reached out to Callaway they asked if I kept it in the head cover after using it... to me this is blaming the customer for their quality issue and is not a good look.  My last high lofted wood was a 909F 5 wood that showed no signs of rust which lived a sheltered life in a headcover.  I also understand they use different materials over the years but again provide this information to the customer up front and the customer can make the decision if they want to proceed with the purchase.

 

The reason for my comment is to provide this information to people looking into this club if they are unaware of the rusting issues since the Mavrik line.  The club itself performed really good for me and I was confident when pulling it out of the bag but rusting after hitting it a hand full of times it a tough sell for me.

 

It's definitely an interesting issue.  I hadn't had a Cally club rust until my UW.  I've since moved on from UW to the Epic Super Hybrids but Callaway was quick to replace the rusted club(s) no questions asked.  Wonder if the metal alloy used is getting a reaction from golf course chemicals?

[AverageFrenchGolfer]

I don't get the people saying they have a hard time launching the 17*

 

From this test (french pro, a bit older, swinging it at 93mph), it launches really high. 

He's saying the peak height is around 30m (98 feets), which is a bit more than a driver (average peak height on tour : 29m)

And he's playing it with the stock RDX Black shaft in stiff (70g). 

He's getting 212m carry (232 yards)

 

He's saying he launched it higher than a 3wood, and even higher than some 5 wood. 

 

From the vidéo itself, you can see it launches REALLY high and effortlessly. 

 

Here (i put the timer where he swings it)

 

 

 

And here 

 

 

Btw, he loved the club and gave it a 18.25 points out of 20. 

(he gave the Ping g425 max fairway wood a 17.75, the Stealth fw and the Rogue ST Max fw a 18)

Edited October 23, 2022 by AverageFrenchGolfer

[Ca3l]

I’m interested in trying this but keep reading about how it’s so hot. I think the 19* is the only one available lefty and I’m looking for something that actually plays like a 19* — something to bridge between a 3 wood and a 4 iron. Would that be a mistake? Anyone ever throw a heavier weight, shorter shaft in this to fit a distance gap with any success? 

[BallerNate]

15 hours ago, Ca3l said:

I’m interested in trying this but keep reading about how it’s so hot. I think the 19* is the only one available lefty and I’m looking for something that actually plays like a 19* — something to bridge between a 3 wood and a 4 iron. Would that be a mistake? Anyone ever throw a heavier weight, shorter shaft in this to fit a distance gap with any success? 

I’ve only used the 19* UW for 2 rounds, so still getting a feel for it. For me though, it’s very similar to my 21* Rogue ST Max OS Hybrid 4 and the distances and shot types are very similar.

 

I’m probably going to try a 17* since I’m trying to replace a 3-Wood and go Driver, UW, Hybrid at the top of my bag. We’ll see how it all works out.

[AverageFrenchGolfer]

2 hours ago, BallerNate said:

I’ve only used the 19* UW for 2 rounds, so still getting a feel for it. For me though, it’s very similar to my 21* Rogue ST Max OS Hybrid 4 and the distances and shot types are very similar.

 

I’m probably going to try a 17* since I’m trying to replace a 3-Wood and go Driver, UW, Hybrid at the top of my bag. We’ll see how it all works out.

 

Same for me. Only interested in the 17* as a 3/5fw replacement as I find an hybrid does the trick if it comes to 19/21*

 

Be careful though, the 17 and 19 UW are the same shaft lenght so distance gap should be minimal. 

[MountainKing]

18 hours ago, Ca3l said:

I’m interested in trying this but keep reading about how it’s so hot. I think the 19* is the only one available lefty and I’m looking for something that actually plays like a 19* — something to bridge between a 3 wood and a 4 iron. Would that be a mistake? Anyone ever throw a heavier weight, shorter shaft in this to fit a distance gap with any success? 

 

That's where mine sits.  I do hit this about 10 yards father than my older 19* which creates a bigger gap, however if I need to dial it back, I'll choke down an inch and it also responds well to a little 3/4 swing.   Based on how well this club plays in numerous situations, I would really be hesitant to change it too much away from stock. 

[AverageFrenchGolfer]

On 10/24/2022 at 3:23 PM, MountainKing said:

 

That's where mine sits.  I do hit this about 10 yards father than my older 19* which creates a bigger gap, however if I need to dial it back, I'll choke down an inch and it also responds well to a little 3/4 swing.   Based on how well this club plays in numerous situations, I would really be hesitant to change it too much away from stock. 

 

So I just bought the Apex UW 19* and I also have 10 yards more (220y vs 210y) than my old 19* hybrid (Ping G425). 

 

The problem is I find it more difficult to hit perfectly on the center. I get about 30-40% really good shots, vs 60-70% with my old hybrid. 

I'm going to buy the Epic Super Hybrid 18* to compare it against the UW. 

(I've seen videos of a pro hitting both, and although the Super Hybrid is a lil bit shorter on good hits, it is a much easier club to shoot)

 

The Apex UW is not a difficult club, but it's not a "point and shoot" club. It needs a bit more concentration at adress.

It's actually a fairway wood. While there's nothing more hybrid than the Super Hybrid.

[Radeon962]

On 10/18/2022 at 9:21 PM, Glock917 said:

Yeah same my man. Stock hzrdus rdx 6.5 80g fit like a dream on my 21* but just needed a bit of kick on my 17* so I went with a tour AD VR 8 tx I got on a deal and is def better with a more of a mid flight. Ideally if I had my choice I would of preferred a GD DI IZ or diamana Zf of that sorts

Play ZF in my 17* and 21* after trying several shafts.

 

Perfect match for my swing.

[MountainKing]

6 hours ago, AverageFrenchGolfer said:

 

So I just bought the Apex UW 19* and I also have 10 yards more (220y vs 210y) than my old 19* hybrid (Ping G425). 

 

The problem is I find it more difficult to hit perfectly on the center. I get about 30-40% really good shots, vs 60-70% with my old hybrid. 

I'm going to buy the Epic Super Hybrid 18* to compare it against the UW. 

(I've seen videos of a pro hitting both, and although the Super Hybrid is a lil bit shorter on good hits, it is a much easier club to shoot)

 

The Apex UW is not a difficult club, but it's not a "point and shoot" club. It needs a bit more concentration at adress.

It's actually a fairway wood. While there's nothing more hybrid than the Super Hybrid.

 

I had both, the Super Hybrid was good but it was not versitle.  It was a great tee club, okay off the fairway, useless out of the rough or any tougher lies.  The one thing it did well was hit high spinny shots that just landed and died like a wedge. It was worthless at anything else.  

[RCGA]

The top end of bag setup right now is 

 

Driver 9* @ 280-300y

UW 17* @ 245-260y 

Driving iron 23* @ 220-230y 

 

I'm dropping the 20* hybrid since it's a hook machine 

 

Now I only have 13 clubs and would like another option. The 18* UDI driving iron was total trash (hard to hit, useless unless the lie was perfect), 5w has been replaced with the 17* UW, hybrids are hook-city. 

 

The logical solution is a 21* UW, but I don't have a distance gap problem.  

 

I'm toying with the idea of 2 drivers (one high, one low for downwind and into the wind). Maybe a 7-wood. Anything else I should consider? 

[bcflyguy1]

I think there's still room for a 21* UW in there because it will give you more shot options at that tweener yardage while making a minimum of physical adjustments to hit those different shots.

[AverageFrenchGolfer]

Third time at the range today with my UW 19.

 

Coming from an hybrid, I needed some time to get used to it, and been hitting it really well. 

 

229y total on good shots (with 95mph swing speed with the UW)

 

Not a single hook, and no more baby slices. 

Loving it so far. Feels like a weapon.

Edited November 7, 2022 by AverageFrenchGolfer

[bcflyguy1]

Just now, AverageFrenchGolfer said:

 

Loving it so far. Feels like a weapon.

Once you get through that early adjustment period, that's exactly what it is. It's so fun to use that I look for excuses to hit it during the course of a round.

[gg38]

1 hour ago, RCGA said:

The top end of bag setup right now is 

 

Driver 9* @ 280-300y

UW 17* @ 245-260y 

Driving iron 23* @ 220-230y 

 

I'm dropping the 20* hybrid since it's a hook machine 

 

Now I only have 13 clubs and would like another option. The 18* UDI driving iron was total trash (hard to hit, useless unless the lie was perfect), 5w has been replaced with the 17* UW, hybrids are hook-city. 

 

The logical solution is a 21* UW, but I don't have a distance gap problem.  

 

I'm toying with the idea of 2 drivers (one high, one low for downwind and into the wind). Maybe a 7-wood. Anything else I should consider? 

 

I don't think you need the 21; very similar distances to you and my 21 Apex goes 230. I love it, but you have that covered.