Callaway Rogue ST Pro Irons

[Cactus Jack]

2 hours ago, littled1212 said:

Do you already have them?

 

Not yet. 

 

However, my fitter told me some Callaway pre-order woods have already arrived, but they're required to sit on them until release date. I'm taking that as a very good sign considering the pre-order window opened opened last week. Seems like Callaway is committed to nailing their launch.  

[HiTrajLoSpin]

I've never played Callaway irons, but the Rogue ST Pro w/MMT shafts definitely has my attention. Lofts would likely be weakened 1°-2° though.

[tbone18]

On 1/28/2022 at 9:40 AM, golfschnell said:

Shipment begins February 18

that's the in store sell date.  Pre-orders have already started shipping.  Mine have just shipped yesterday and are stuck in the snow in Louisville.

[tbone18]

3 hours ago, HiTrajLoSpin said:

I've never played Callaway irons, but the Rogue ST Pro w/MMT shafts definitely has my attention. Lofts would likely be weakened 1°-2° though.

Callaway is only showing the MMT in 105tx.

[Ryan19jwu]

I hit them the other day at GG. They’re a fantastic iron that will fit a lot of people. 
 

like the person above with a lot of speed and not a pure ball striker these are a nice blend. They feel good, look awesome from address, and have the forgiveness of the apex. 
 

Id definitely give them a swing if you’re in the market for a very forgiving players ish looking club. 

[cbbaron]

Had P790 on order since November was told mid April ETA. Hit the Rogue Pro ordered with same shaft looking like Ill have them soon. Also hit Rogue Max driver think I'm pulling trigger on that as well

[dmeeksDC]

8 minutes ago, cbbaron said:

Had P790 on order since November was told mid April ETA. Hit the Rogue Pro ordered with same shaft looking like Ill have them soon. Also hit Rogue Max driver think I'm pulling trigger on that as well

Nice… Which shaft? I’m hitting these irons on Tuesday. 

[cbbaron]

Just now, dmeeksDC said:

Nice… Which shaft? I’m hitting these irons on Tuesday. 

KBS Tour 120

[tbone18]

7 minutes ago, cbbaron said:

KBS Tour 120

KBS shafts are heavily backordered for all manufactures.  Stay away from Project X as well. 

[cbbaron]

5 minutes ago, tbone18 said:

KBS shafts are heavily backordered for all manufactures.  Stay away from Project X as well. 

My buddy already got his Rogue Pro with KBS 120

[HiTrajLoSpin]

1 hour ago, tbone18 said:

Callaway is only showing the MMT in 105tx.

Yeah, I saw that, but online stores like Carl's Golfland and Golfio are showing 85R and 95S options.

 

I also called Callaway, and they said I could order 85R.

 

Strange.

Edited February 5, 2022 by HiTrajLoSpin

[dmeeksDC]

20 minutes ago, cbbaron said:

My buddy already got his Rogue Pro with KBS 120

I was told it was the KBS stepless shafts that are backordered but that the situation is improving. I’ll get an updated rundown on Tuesday and report back. KBS Tour 120 or 110/115, PX LZ 5.5 or 6.0 and PX IO 6.0 soft-stepped would be my top choices, depending on fit. But several DG options will work too. I have no interest in a long backorder. I’ll choose a shaft they have. Who am I kidding? The equipment is always better than me. 

 

[Jim53]

I am hoping the weather cleared enough to let them get out of Kentucky and arrive today but it is not looking good. Not a big problem of course but it would have been fun to give them the shake down in the Sunday points game. 

[platgof]

I ordered the ST OS irons and the A wedge Pro to fill in the gap somewhat. The new Rogue line is very interesting to say the least.

[Jim53]

The pros have made it to Jacksonville early am today, maybe just maybe they will make it

[HiTrajLoSpin]

3 hours ago, Jim53 said:

The pros have made it to Jacksonville early am today, maybe just maybe they will make it

 

We're gonna need pics 😉

[Jim53]

4 hours ago, HiTrajLoSpin said:

 

We're gonna need pics 😉

They did not make it to day, I imagine it will be Monday. 

[Jim53]

They made it today, look great. 

[golfschnell]

Got the chance to hit full set of these last week with my usual shaft and was underwhelmed. Thought they looked and felt cheap, particularly as I was hitting them against the Mizuno Pro 225 and the Taylormade p790. The Mizuno was the best of the 3 in my mind, the Callaway a distant third. I am a Callaway fan so I’m going to wait for next year’s iteration of the Apex combo which I hope both irons will be hollow bodies with same design cues and with better feel than the current Apex Pro, and devoid of the “Tungsten” label. 

[dmeeksDC]

5 hours ago, Jim53 said:

They made it today, look great. 

Those look great. I like the shape and size of the heads. 

[Jim53]

To me the sole is a bit more narrow, top line and blade length also by a small amount over the APEX. The Rogue seems to have less offset than the APEX, not a huge difference or it could just be the shaping of the iron.

 I always found the look of the APEX sole to be odd,  just the shaping with the back of the iron I guess. But it was something that always caught my eye.

Overall I like the look of the Rogue over the APEX and even the black badge thing on the back is not as gaudy in hand as in pictures. Hope to hit them on Wed if the weather is OK.

[gremlin]

4 hours ago, Jim53 said:

To me the sole is a bit more narrow, top line and blade length also by a small amount over the APEX. The Rogue seems to have less offset than the APEX, not a huge difference or it could just be the shaping of the iron.

 I always found the look of the APEX sole to be odd,  just the shaping with the back of the iron I guess. But it was something that always caught my eye.

Overall I like the look of the Rogue over the APEX and even the black badge thing on the back is not as gaudy in hand as in pictures. Hope to hit them on Wed if the weather is OK.

They look great. When did you order? I ordered Jan 21st and my order still shows "order processing". Pretty jacked to get these after seeing the pics of yours. 

[Tupperwolf]

I'd be curious to know if Callaway runs focus groups. Just because I'd be curious to know what the non-WRX golf population thinks. I'd rather see these without the black plastic badge, make all the tech hidden and make them look like a pure blade at a glance a la Mizuno 225. I wonder if they decided they'd turn more people off by doing that than they'd turn on. I know you don't hit the ball with the back of the club but it's a perception thing. I'd love to try the 225s or the Ping i525 because at a glance they look like a players blade but have tech built in.

[elwhippy]

The shape looks good but unsure about the finish and the lump of plastic is a turn off. Might be cost control but definitely cheapens the look. 

[bjp1]

I posted my experience demoing the ST Pro against the 225, i525, P790 and PTx Pro.  I own the P790 and PTx Pro irons, and the other 3 are considerations for this year.  In its stock setup, ST Pro was really solid on dispersion.  Though not a fan of the back, it is really appealing at address.  Having played the 21 Apex Pro last season, I like the look of the ST Pro at address in comparison.  What I did find surprising is that it's profile appears slightly more compact than the Mizuno 225 and i525, where I consider both of these more compact than their predecessors.  Where I faulted the ST Pro was feel.  Center contact, as with nearly all clubs, was soft and solid.  However, even slightly off-center hits were fairly harsh, even when the forgiveness provided an accepted result.  I'm going to revisit the ST Pro again to see if I have the same experience because there is something very appealing about the club, and its forgiveness was noticeable throughout my test.

 

 

[Jim53]

3 hours ago, gremlin said:

They look great. When did you order? I ordered Jan 21st and my order still shows "order processing". Pretty jacked to get these after seeing the pics of yours. 

I ordered though my regular rep at Callaway and he put it in for 1st thing the morning of the 21st, possibly 12:01 automatically. He said I would have been one of the 1st non dealer orders in line. 

 

Put them on the SW scale and they hit what I asked for, D2 5 iron up to D5 on the AW. I can't check the loft and lie but I hope they are per the order. They have been much better for me on the last two orders of new stuff, after years of getting clubs all over the map on specs.

[Jim53]

2 hours ago, bjp1 said:

I posted my experience demoing the ST Pro against the 225, i525, P790 and PTx Pro.  I own the P790 and PTx Pro irons, and the other 3 are considerations for this year.  In its stock setup, ST Pro was really solid on dispersion.  Though not a fan of the back, it is really appealing at address.  Having played the 21 Apex Pro last season, I like the look of the ST Pro at address in comparison.  What I did find surprising is that it's profile appears slightly more compact than the Mizuno 225 and i525, where I consider both of these more compact than their predecessors.  Where I faulted the ST Pro was feel.  Center contact, as with nearly all clubs, was soft and solid.  However, even slightly off-center hits were fairly harsh, even when the forgiveness provided an accepted result.  I'm going to revisit the ST Pro again to see if I have the same experience because there is something very appealing about the club, and its forgiveness was noticeable throughout my test.

 

 

Good review, I bought them blind so I will get to test the feel and most of the face off grass under playing conditions. I can only hope they work out as good as I hope. But as a slower SS player and pretty deaf, if they go where I point them and land decent I will be happy.

[bjp1]

1 hour ago, Jim53 said:

Good review, I bought them blind so I will get to test the feel and most of the face off grass under playing conditions. I can only hope they work out as good as I hope. But as a slower SS player and pretty deaf, if they go where I point them and land decent I will be happy.

I'm curious of your swingspeed.  Based on your bag, at least by typical standards, it would appear at least high 80's with a 7i, low 100's with driver.  

[Jim53]

49 minutes ago, bjp1 said:

I'm curious of your swingspeed.  Based on your bag, at least by typical standards, it would appear at least high 80's with a 7i, low 100's with driver.  

Depending on the day and how the body decides to participate I think I can hit those numbers. Normal painful days lately maybe a bit lower.

Don't let the x flex in the woods fool you, most are soft in the handle and tip stiff so imo do not play like real x flex. The GD AD DI 8x plays the stiffest but still feels ok to me. Being 63 there is only so much available to use haha

[gremlin]

Mine amazingly showed up today. Shipped out of Mexico yesterday, made it to north Idaho today. Pretty excited to try them out this weekend.