Mizuno JPX 923

[Headingley]

19 hours ago, stephenmatt said:

I smacked around the 923 Forged for a good bit today. I liked it and it is forgiving and long. Probably not as workable as something I would want to play and the head is a little too large but it was a nice club. My only complaint was it felt a little bit heavy in the head. Otherwise it was really nice.

From what I understood the forged and tour heads wouldn't be available until the new year prior to their February 2023 release.. Where did you hit the forged head?

[stephenmatt]

This is the 921 Forged. Sorry, got them mixed up.

Edited September 22, 2022 by stephenmatt

[Carolina Golfer 2]

4 hours ago, Headingley said:

From what I understood the forged and tour heads wouldn't be available until the new year prior to their February 2023 release.. Where did you hit the forged head?

The reps to have them to show. Bit we weren’t able to hit them as they are his sales samples. 

[Tugu]

11 hours ago, Headingley said:

From what I understood the forged and tour heads wouldn't be available until the new year prior to their February 2023 release.. Where did you hit the forged head?

My boys already hit the Tour and the forged at a junior event as Mizuno look after some of their equipment needs. Can't get them til Feb was the response when we tried to order them. 

Edited September 22, 2022 by Tugu

[kooch1221]

Just saw this on YT. Looks like premiere of JPX 923 line with Chris tomorrow!

 

 

[this_is_golf]

I’m really liking the looks of these irons. But I can’t buy another set…or can I?!

[SagedCrusader]

2 hours ago, this_is_golf said:

I’m really liking the looks of these irons. But I can’t buy another set…or can I?!

I'll be buying a set as soon as I'm able to, pretty much redoing my bag except for lob wedge and putter, good bye driver and 3w from 2011 and irons from 2004 lol

[HIRED]

I want to do a 923 Forged and Tour combo set. Anyone else thinking of doing it? Ideas for bends? 

[nova6868]

If you want smaller gaps in the scoring irons you pretty much have to do Tours or small blend of Forged and Tour. The lofts on the Forged are just silly in the scoring irons, 5-degree gaps with 44 PW. So then you're looking at 6 or even 8 degree gap to your first wedge.

 

The way to do the split seems to be 4i Forged bent 1 weak to 22, 5i Forged bent 2 weak to 26, then Tours 6-PW.

 

That gets you 22-26-30-34-38-42-46

 

 

 

 

Edited September 23, 2022 by nova6868

[HIRED]

Thank you!  Yea… ideally I’d go 6 with forged for the added forgiveness, but who knows, I guess I’ll force myself to get better with the 6T lol 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

So some interesting and very basic LM data from my Mevo this AM.  I took the Hot Metal HL 7 iron out vs my Gen 5 XP 7 iron and here is a summary.  I am the poster child target audience for the HL,  Swing speed mid 73 to 75 mph., not enough speed to get a high launch and decent.  

 

But from this limited sample of 10 shots each after warming up heres what I saw. 

 

Editorial note, these numbers are a bit off from my normal, not so much CHS but ball speed and smash, as I am 1 week out from Cataract surgery, so contact was questionable at best all across the board, but same for both.  

 

CHS-                    Gen 5    73.01           Hot Metal Averaged 73.38 

Ball Speed            Gen  5  91.68           Hot Metal HL 94.33

Smash                  Gen 5      1.24          Hot Metal HL  1.28 

Carry                    Gen 5    115.01 😞   Hot Metal HL 115.93  😞

Spin                      Gen 5    6342          Hot Metal  7738 

Launch                 Gen 5     22.02         Hot Metal HL 26.6 

Peak Height         Gen 5     65.98         Hot Metal HL  84.17

 

So it's pretty obvious, the Hot Metal HL does exactlyh what Mizuno has desgined it to do.  With higher lofts you would expect higher, launch, Spin and height.   And those are all signiciantly higher than the Gen 5 XP   

 

And even with the weaker loft, they had higher ball speed and almost not quite a yard more carry.   That I would assume comes exactly from the new Nickel Chomoly Mizuno is touting in these.

 

So anyway gave the ego a blow by posting those numbers, but hopefully it will helps someone with similar swig speeds that needs to hit the ball higher wondering what they will gain/lose out of them.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 23, 2022 by Carolina Golfer 2

[reider69]

I had my 921 forged bent weak to match my 900 forged lofts. I dont like this trend of the forged line strengthening lofts.  I am not consistent enough to play tours and hit my 921 forged too far.  The Hot Metal line is already there for players who want very strong lofts 

Edited September 23, 2022 by reider69

[Tugu]

Just looking at the loft differences between the forged and the tour, is it now impossible to do a combo set? 

[IL2AZ]

To combo, you would need a 7 iron in the Tour and a 7 iron in the Forged, which is essentially a Tour 6 iron and go from there.

[nova6868]

Totally agree, I don't understand the target audience they're going for with the Forged. They're supposed to be for low-handicap players but the lofts are distance irons. Seems like Mizuno was selling lots of HM and HM Pro and decided that people want distance. 

 

Problem is the people who want to crush 7-irons in the fitting bay are going to just buy the Hot Metals. Would have been much better to just make the Forged lofts like 1 degree less than the Tours throughout the set. The way it is now you can't blend them in the middle unless you want to bag two 7-irons as pointed out above (one 30 and one 34).

 

 

 

Edited September 23, 2022 by nova6868

[dlow206]

I never really understood whether the HMP are GI irons or something else. Low-offset GI?

[TimBuma]

1 hour ago, nova6868 said:

Totally agree, I don't understand the target audience they're going for with the Forged. They're supposed to be for low-handicap players but the lofts are distance irons. Seems like Mizuno was selling lots of HM and HM Pro and decided that people want distance. 

 

Problem is the people who want to crush 7-irons in the fitting bay are going to just buy the Hot Metals. Would have been much better to just make the Forged lofts like 1 degree less than the Tours throughout the set. The way it is now you can't blend them in the middle unless you want to bag two 7-irons as pointed out above (one 30 and one 34).

 

 

 

Think they need to take a page out of Pings book with the i210s and their lofts.

[braincramp52]

On 8/22/2022 at 7:05 AM, KhiloD said:

Saw on Instagram that they are going to offer at least the forged which they never have before in Left handed. So probably no SEL version in this run.

If Mizuno makes a LH Forged 923 I will break my oath to never own anything Mizuno and buy them. The 923 Forged looks so damn good!

[CROUSE99]

6 hours ago, Carolina Golfer 2 said:

So some interesting and very basic LM data from my Mevo this AM.  I took the Hot Metal HL 7 iron out vs my Gen 5 XP 7 iron and here is a summary.  I am the poster child target audience for the HL,  Swing speed mid 73 to 75 mph., not enough speed to get a high launch and decent.  

 

But from this limited sample of 10 shots each after warming up heres what I saw. 

 

Editorial note, these numbers are a bit off from my normal, not so much CHS but ball speed and smash, as I am 1 week out from Cataract surgery, so contact was questionable at best all across the board, but same for both.  

 

CHS-                    Gen 5    73.01           Hot Metal Averaged 73.38 

Ball Speed            Gen  5  91.68           Hot Metal HL 94.33

Smash                  Gen 5      1.24          Hot Metal HL  1.28 

Carry                    Gen 5    115.01 😞   Hot Metal HL 115.93  😞

Spin                      Gen 5    6342          Hot Metal  7738 

Launch                 Gen 5     22.02         Hot Metal HL 26.6 

Peak Height         Gen 5     65.98         Hot Metal HL  84.17

 

So it's pretty obvious, the Hot Metal HL does exactlyh what Mizuno has desgined it to do.  With higher lofts you would expect higher, launch, Spin and height.   And those are all signiciantly higher than the Gen 5 XP   

 

And even with the weaker loft, they had higher ball speed and almost not quite a yard more carry.   That I would assume comes exactly from the new Nickel Chomoly Mizuno is touting in these.

 

So anyway gave the ego a blow by posting those numbers, but hopefully it will helps someone with similar swig speeds that needs to hit the ball higher wondering what they will gain/lose out of them.

 

 

 

 

 

I wonder how the PXG XP 8 iron would compare to the JPx HL 7 iron. 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

7 minutes ago, CROUSE99 said:

I wonder how the PXG XP 8 iron would compare to the JPx HL 7 iron. 

Good question. I can test that next week! 
 

Going on logo.  It should be closer in launch. Spin and height.  But less ball speed and carry. 

Edited September 24, 2022 by Carolina Golfer 2

[MikeGman]

9 hours ago, SagedCrusader said:

I'll be buying a set as soon as I'm able to, pretty much redoing my bag except for lob wedge and putter, good bye driver and 3w from 2011 and irons from 2004 lol

I'm doing the same.  Time to upgrade from the Titleist AP2s I bought in 2008 and the 910D2 Driver in 2010. I've wanted to go back to Mizuno, used to have T-Zoid Pros (1999). The JPX line will suit my game nicely.

[timbo08]

1 hour ago, braincramp52 said:

If Mizuno makes a LH Forged 923 I will break my oath to never own anything Mizuno and buy them. The 923 Forged looks so damn good!

According to another popular site they will be offered in LH but not the Tours. 

[braincramp52]

22 minutes ago, timbo08 said:

According to another popular site they will be offered in LH but not the Tours. 

Cool! I like the looks of the forged better than the Tour's anyway. 

[SagedCrusader]

1 hour ago, MikeGman said:

I'm doing the same.  Time to upgrade from the Titleist AP2s I bought in 2008 and the 910D2 Driver in 2010. I've wanted to go back to Mizuno, used to have T-Zoid Pros (1999). The JPX line will suit my game nicely.

I have taylormade rac irons (2004) Burner superfast 2.0 driver (2011) and burner 3 wood also around 2011. I hit the 921s incredibly well during fitting, but since I wasn't ready to buy decided to wait for the 923s and will most likely fill out the top of the bag with titleist tsrs

[hammergolf]

22 hours ago, Carolina Golfer 2 said:

So some interesting and very basic LM data from my Mevo this AM.  I took the Hot Metal HL 7 iron out vs my Gen 5 XP 7 iron and here is a summary.  I am the poster child target audience for the HL,  Swing speed mid 73 to 75 mph., not enough speed to get a high launch and decent.  

 

But from this limited sample of 10 shots each after warming up heres what I saw. 

 

Editorial note, these numbers are a bit off from my normal, not so much CHS but ball speed and smash, as I am 1 week out from Cataract surgery, so contact was questionable at best all across the board, but same for both.  

 

CHS-                    Gen 5    73.01           Hot Metal Averaged 73.38 

Ball Speed            Gen  5  91.68           Hot Metal HL 94.33

Smash                  Gen 5      1.24          Hot Metal HL  1.28 

Carry                    Gen 5    115.01 😞   Hot Metal HL 115.93  😞

Spin                      Gen 5    6342          Hot Metal  7738 

Launch                 Gen 5     22.02         Hot Metal HL 26.6 

Peak Height         Gen 5     65.98         Hot Metal HL  84.17

 

So it's pretty obvious, the Hot Metal HL does exactlyh what Mizuno has desgined it to do.  With higher lofts you would expect higher, launch, Spin and height.   And those are all signiciantly higher than the Gen 5 XP   

 

And even with the weaker loft, they had higher ball speed and almost not quite a yard more carry.   That I would assume comes exactly from the new Nickel Chomoly Mizuno is touting in these.

 

So anyway gave the ego a blow by posting those numbers, but hopefully it will helps someone with similar swig speeds that needs to hit the ball higher wondering what they will gain/lose out of them.

 

 

 

 

 

Was there a difference in sound and feel?

[Carolina Golfer 2]

25 minutes ago, hammergolf said:

Was there a difference in sound and feel?

Good question. Nothing dramatic.  Sound was basically the same.   Feel might have been minimally softer on the PXG.  But Mizuno has done a very good job on that with the HOt Metal like I’m general.  Very quiet and relatively soft for a cast iron.  

[hammergolf]

4 hours ago, Carolina Golfer 2 said:

Good question. Nothing dramatic.  Sound was basically the same.   Feel might have been minimally softer on the PXG.  But Mizuno has done a very good job on that with the HOt Metal like I’m general.  Very quiet and relatively soft for a cast iron.  

I’ll have to take a look at the 923 HL and compare it to my irons. I really like my Gen3 XP’s but I’m playing them weak to try and get more launch and spin. 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

1 hour ago, hammergolf said:

I’ll have to take a look at the 923 HL and compare it to my irons. I really like my Gen3 XP’s but I’m playing them weak to try and get more launch and spin. 

Yeah. If you can find a place to demo them tbst has the DNA Shaft Analyzer. I definitely would.  
 

I don’t know or if want to drop the Gen5 just yet as I have played some really good golf with them this yesr.   But I can get the Hot Metals at a very good price won’t my personal discount.   
 

One more test, I plan on taking our demo 7 iron out along with the XP 8 to a par 3 with my PoVx and see how much stopping power and spin I get vs the XP 

Edited September 24, 2022 by Carolina Golfer 2

[hammergolf]

50 minutes ago, Carolina Golfer 2 said:

Yeah. If you can find a place to demo them tbst has the DNA Shaft Analyzer. I definitely would.  
 

I don’t know or if want to drop the Gen5 just yet as I have played some really good golf with them this yesr.   But I can get the Hot Metals at a very good price won’t my personal discount.   
 

One more test, I plan on taking our demo 7 iron out along with the XP 8 to a par 3 with my PoVx and see how much stopping power and spin I get vs the XP 

I really wish one of the YouTubers would do a test showing how different spin rates react on the greens. I was watching The Average Golfer yesterday and he had a guy hitting 7 irons into a green and they had another camera on the green. One shot had 4900 rpm spin and backed up. Another shot had 6500 rpm spin and basically just hit and hopped a ft forward and stopped.

[CROUSE99]

I just got a set of PXG Gen 5 XP's for an incredible price.  I will probably end up having to weaken the lofts but if they don't work out I might sell them and take a hard look at the JPX 923 HL.  I'm basically in the same boat as Carolina Golfer 2.  75mph 7 iron chs and I deloft too much at impact, so a low trajectory.

 

Edited September 24, 2022 by CROUSE99