Presidents Cup International Squad (*** NO LIV DISCUSSIONS/REFERENCES ***)

[theodoreb]

OMG, Check out the Presidents Cup International Squad. 

 

Will anyone watch? Does this team even have a snowballs chance?

 

Anyone have any info on some of these first timers?

 

Tough times for International golf. 

 

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/34534526/trevor-immelman-reveals-six-presidents-cup-captain-picks-2022-giving-international-team-eight-total-first-rs

Edited September 8, 2022 by GwrxMod

[jmcm87]

 

Americans going to American. 

[ThinkingPlus]

10 minutes ago, theodoreb said:

OMG, Check out the Presidents Cup European Squad. 

 

Will anyone watch? Does this team even have a snowballs chance?

 

Anyone have any info on some of these first timers?

 

Tough times for European golf. 

 

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/34534526/trevor-immelman-reveals-six-presidents-cup-captain-picks-2022-giving-international-team-eight-total-first-rs

There are no Europeans on the President's Cup international team.  There never has been.

 

IBTL

[theodoreb]

5 minutes ago, ThinkingPlus said:

There are no Europeans on the President's Cup international team.  There never has been.

 

IBTL

Sorry Non-European International players!

 

Im just being an ignorant American who thinks the world revolves around me:(

Edited September 6, 2022 by theodoreb

[jdl]

Wait, you mean the American team is going to win easily again? Oh my!

[Ghost of Snead]

17 minutes ago, theodoreb said:

OMG, Check out the Presidents Cup International Squad. 

 

Will anyone watch? Does this team even have a snowballs chance?

 

Anyone have any info on some of these first timers?

 

Tough times for European golf. 

 

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/34534526/trevor-immelman-reveals-six-presidents-cup-captain-picks-2022-giving-international-team-eight-total-first-rs

 

Since when does the Presidents Cup International team have anything to do with Europe ?  

[theodoreb]

Just now, Ghost of Snead said:

 

Since when does the Presidents Cup International team have anything to do with Europe ?  

I corrected it, but thanks for calling out my ignorance.

[Ferguson]

This is Jeopardy:

 

 

 

Golf trivia for $800, please. 

 

He coined the phrase, "international squad." 

Who is Renton Laidlaw?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct.

 

 

 

 

[NJBigFish22]

Snooze fest, I mean literally, who on that team is going to bring any energy.  Trevor is leading the lambs to slaughter.

[tiderider]

Just now, NJBigFish22 said:

Snooze fest, I mean literally, who on that team is going to bring any energy.  Trevor is leading the lambs to slaughter.

can someone put DLIII's face on this? 

 

[Ghost of Snead]

3 minutes ago, NJBigFish22 said:

Snooze fest, I mean literally, who on that team is going to bring any energy.  Trevor is leading the lambs to slaughter.

 

Do tell us who you would have picked if you were Immelman

[NJBigFish22]

19 minutes ago, Ghost of Snead said:

 

Do tell us who you would have picked if you were Immelman

That’s part of the problem, the international player pool isn’t deep, especially with CS, JN and others leaving.  If you aren’t the more talented bunch, you need some guys with fire in their belly’s to get an emotional edge, cause these guys are low key and boring and some of the other options are the same. 

Edited September 6, 2022 by NJBigFish22

[PhilsFanDrew]

38 minutes ago, NJBigFish22 said:

Snooze fest, I mean literally, who on that team is going to bring any energy.  Trevor is leading the lambs to slaughter.

Well that may be the one thing the International Team has going for them is the lack of galvanizing personalities on it.  Maybe that plays into lower energy on the American side and they come out flat and struggle to recover from it?  Not saying that is going to play out that way but you never know.  These type of events typically aren't won on paper.

[So_Cal]

1 hour ago, theodoreb said:

OMG, Check out the Presidents Cup International Squad. 

 

Will anyone watch? Does this team even have a snowballs chance?

 

Anyone have any info on some of these first timers?

 

Tough times for International golf. 

 

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/34534526/trevor-immelman-reveals-six-presidents-cup-captain-picks-2022-giving-international-team-eight-total-first-rs

Maybe now that they’re rid of the dead weight the international team can win more often. 

[BlackDiamondPar5]

 

1 hour ago, theodoreb said:

Sorry Non-European International players!

 

Im just being an ignorant American who thinks the world revolves around me:(

Since you admit to it, I'll endorse it and say that you play the role well. 🤣

Edited September 6, 2022 by BlackDiamondPar5

[Ghost of Snead]

35 minutes ago, NJBigFish22 said:

That’s part of the problem, the international player pool isn’t deep, especially with CS, JN and others leaving.  If you aren’t the more talented bunch, you need some guys with fire in their belly’s to get an emotional edge, cause these guys are low key and boring and some of the other options are the same. 

 

Thanks for confirming where I thought you were headed with this ... 

[theodoreb]

Who else could he have picked? Yes it is unfortunate that the team will not be full strength because of the division, but given his options, who else could he have picked? 

 

Could this be the last presidents cup? It really wont be fair fight as the Americans will destroy them. Going in with such a lopsided field, will people tune in? (honestly not sure if this was event that was watched anyway as it competes with football)

Edited September 6, 2022 by theodoreb

[theodoreb]

9 minutes ago, BlackDiamondPar5 said:

 

Since you admit to it, I'll endorse it and say that you play the role well. 🤣

All's fair in love and war!

[Dutch1008]

This wasn't going to be competitive even if the Intl team had C. Smith, Neimann, and Ancer. 

 

The US has 12 of the top 20 players in the world. Assuming Kisner replaces Zalatoris, the avg OWGR of the US team is 11.4. If I replace the 3 lowest ranked Intl players with Cam, Niemann, and Ancer, their average rank is still only 31.1. This was always going to be a beat down.  

[Ghost of Snead]

6 minutes ago, Dutch1008 said:

This wasn't going to be competitive even if the Intl team had C. Smith, Neimann, and Ancer. 

 

The US has 12 of the top 20 players in the world. Assuming Kisner replaces Zalatoris, the avg OWGR of the US team is 11.4. If I replace the 3 lowest ranked Intl players with Cam, Niemann, and Ancer, their average rank is still only 31.1. This was always going to be a beat down.  

 

Yep but think how much the electric personalities of the guys that left would mean to the Internationals.

[NJBigFish22]

1 hour ago, PhilsFanDrew said:

Well that may be the one thing the International Team has going for them is the lack of galvanizing personalities on it.  Maybe that plays into lower energy on the American side and they come out flat and struggle to recover from it?  Not saying that is going to play out that way but you never know.  These type of events typically aren't won on paper.

We have seen many times in sports where overlooking your opponent gets you beat.  Just not sure if that will happen with the talent gap.  

[NJBigFish22]

57 minutes ago, Ghost of Snead said:

 

Thanks for confirming where I thought you were headed with this ... 

The players left, who cares where they went!  Outside of the US, if you took 3 or 4 of the best players off the International side or the European side in the RC, it is going to have a major impact. What do you think Europe chances would be if you took Rory, Rahm, and 2 other top ranked players out of the 23 RC?  

[theodoreb]

https://apnews.com/article/sports-golf-ryder-cup-luke-donald-1cef601743cf9e3eb374537a3dfa1e31

 

Whats this? A new Team competition?

[PhilsFanDrew]

12 minutes ago, NJBigFish22 said:

We have seen many times in sports where overlooking your opponent gets you beat.  Just not sure if that will happen with the talent gap.  

 

I would agree that this is likely one of those instances where the cream will rise and if I had to wager $1K to pick the winner you better believe it would be on the US simply because of the disparity in talent. 

[jdl]

1 hour ago, PhilsFanDrew said:

  These type of events typically aren't won on paper.

That's right, they are won by tiny people inside of your television set.

[Dutch1008]

1 hour ago, PhilsFanDrew said:

I would agree that this is likely one of those instances where the cream will rise and if I had to wager $1K to pick the winner you better believe it would be on the US simply because of the disparity in talent.

Agree with this and am pretty confident that the US will roll. That said, Tiger and Phil are the two best players of their generation by leaps and bounds but you certainly wouldn't know that from looking at their Ryder Cup records. Perhaps because Tiger insisted on intimidating everyone and Phil's an ego-maniac nicknamed FIGJAM,  that those two just weren't designed for team golf. The current generation sans Brooks/Reed all seem pretty buddy buddy and perfectly suited for these types of events.   

[MtlJeff]

If there's anything this team has going for it it's that they can't do any worse

[khalespace]

I will watch Tom Kim, Sungjae and Matsuyama.

If USA is -$550, is this $100 to win $550? International is +$500. Just for fun, I may put $10 on the underdogs.

[TBD203]

At those odds you’d have to bet $550 on USA to win $100. Betting $100 on international would PAY $500

[dropkicked]

I’d only watch to see an upset.