2023 JM Eagle LA Championship (April 27-30)

[Tasals]

19 hours ago, Stooch said:

For whatever reason there's no announce crew at the PGA event in Mexico, kinda liking the ambient sounds of golf with player and caddie commentary, wish there was a way to choose this feature whenever I view. lol

does the turning off the center channel on your sound system work? Thats what I do when I cant stand NFL commentators.

[ThinkingPlus]

29 minutes ago, Rapidcat said:

 

It's native to where I live in Melbourne and the broader south & east of Australia too, and we don't allow it to infest our greens, including better munis but certainly any decent private club. We're talking about some of the great world courses including Royal Melbourne, dozens of them. Not a hint of poa at The Grange in Adelaide where the LIV event was a week ago, it would be infested without eradication and continued treatment. I grew up playing munis in the '70's and have plenty of experience of the crappiness of poa greens.

 

Over here, any course superintendent, greenskeeper or whomever doesn't keep their job if they don't keep it at bay. I've served on the committee of a top 100 Oz club where we dealt with this issue, that's why I have some knowledge about this.

 

If we can do it here, you can do it on the west coast, so why is it tolerated? Kill it off, relay/plant with some form of bent or whatever and then just work like crazy to keep it out. It's do-able, we have done it for 50 years so you certainly can.

 

This is why I get frustrated. Please forgive me if I am a touch strident. This Wilshire CC course is a little beauty with playable grass on these greens.

 

You must have the expertise in the US. If not, come and get some people from Oz. The $ can't be a problem if we do it here.

 

Why does everyone in your part of the world just shrug their shoulders to the issue, I don't understand. Poa greens make putting (and chipping) a lottery and tee time dependent.

 

Even if I was a club member knowing what I know, I wouldn't accept it even for club play.

Apparently the supes at all the west coast courses don't have same level of agronomy skills as you Aussies do. 

[Lobby]

On 4/25/2023 at 9:35 AM, Lobby said:

Is it too early to complain about poa greens?

 

🙂

 

PS I really like California tournaments

No, it wasn’t too early to talk about the greens. Sigh

 

i wonder how much the wet winter had to do with this?

[Rapidcat]

5 minutes ago, ThinkingPlus said:

Apparently the supes at all the west coast courses don't have same level of agronomy skills as you Aussies do. 

 

I doubt it.

 

We apparently have higher standards to what we accept of our greens than your west coast courses, though.

[HMHS]

37 minutes ago, Rapidcat said:

 

I doubt it.

 

We apparently have higher standards to what we accept of our greens than your west coast courses, though.

West Coast, California, hmmm... anti smog laws, anti gasoline laws, let's keep the poa alive laws by banning pesticides etc.  It's CA's way of getting back at those damn golf courses 😈

[ThinkingPlus]

1 hour ago, Rapidcat said:

 

I doubt it.

 

We apparently have higher standards to what we accept of our greens than your west coast courses, though.

Maybe it isn't the poa per se, but what the primary grass is.  Is bent used in Oz?

[Rapidcat]

5 minutes ago, ThinkingPlus said:

Maybe it isn't the poa per se, but what the primary grass is.  Is bent used in Oz?

 

Yes, most greens of decent courses in my area of Oz are bent. The Melbourne sand belt clubs are all bent greens, eg Royal Melbourne greens feature a special strain of bent known as Sutton’s Mix, some have other strains.

 

The green work is to keep poa out of the bent. It gets done, not easy and with constant vigilance and $.

[khalespace]

From PGATour, "Players have made 68.3% of putts from 4-8 feet on all putting surfaces since 2015. When isolating those numbers to just poa annua greens, the make percentage drops to 66.5%". If we remove poa from the overall putting stats it probably goes to 69% for none Poa greens so a difference of 2.5% putts made 4 to 8 feet.

[Stooch]

This is an event where you go split tees in the afternoon just to maintain competitive fairness.  lol   If the lead stays around 6 under an EVEN par can go early find a 64 and win lol

[woahnelly]

Ruoning Yin is real good .. I woulda thought Jin Young has a chance prior to today.  Might this be Janet's week ? 

[So_Cal]

Just want to say I really enjoy watching the ladies at Wilshire.  It’s such a great track and vibe there.  Love that place.  Hoping for a good finish. 

[So_Cal]

1 hour ago, khalespace said:

From PGATour, "Players have made 68.3% of putts from 4-8 feet on all putting surfaces since 2015. When isolating those numbers to just poa annua greens, the make percentage drops to 66.5%". If we remove poa from the overall putting stats it probably goes to 69% for none Poa greens so a difference of 2.5% putts made 4 to 8 feet.

Like when they asked Kevin Kisner why he doesn’t like poa.  “Ball don’t go where it should.”

[postfold]

lol what on earth did you just do Greeny

[North Texas]

I don't have the same heartburn for these greens that a lot of you seem to have. 

[So_Cal]

14 minutes ago, North Texas said:

I don't have the same heartburn for these greens that a lot of you seem to have. 

Poa greens on the west coast are fine.  From Chambers Bay to Torrey Pines I have no issues.  

[postfold]

What a shot by Knight on 18!  Great round for her today.

[postfold]

1 hour ago, postfold said:

lol what on earth did you just do Greeny

 

I guess that double on 11 made her mad.  Nice closing stretch to get right back in the mix.

[Lobby]

Too many commercials on golf channel. 
 

it’s getting annoying 

[BadgerLin]

1 hour ago, Lobby said:

Too many commercials on golf channel. 
 

it’s getting annoying 

2 shots, then a commercial. MUST tape and fast forward thru commercials!  But I have to say I prefer this to “Playing Through” or “Eye on the Green” that the networks use to cram more commercials in coverage.  HATE IT!!

[iBanesto]

Rooting for Xiyu Lin!

 

[JungleJimbo]

3 hours ago, iBanesto said:

Rooting for Xiyu Lin!

 

 

 

 

[JungleJimbo]

 

 

 

[ChronicSlicer]

6 hours ago, iBanesto said:

Rooting for Xiyu Lin!

 

I'm with ya, she's likely gonna need help from the leaders. 🤞

[Argonne69]

Interesting leaderboard. Strong field, and yet all eight players in the Rolex top 10 are outside looking in. Looks like another opportunity for a first time winner, but four players in the top ten have previous wins. Hannah and Ally are multiple time winners.

 

I think it's time for Janet to get it done.

 

[ChronicSlicer]

25 minutes ago, Argonne69 said:

I think it's time for Janet to get it done.

 

If her and Cheyenne were both at -9, I'd feel better about this. It's never easy coming from 4 back, she'll need help from those ahead of her or have to shoot at least 66 or better, likely better. 

[Argonne69]

Just now, ChronicSlicer said:

If her and Cheyenne were both at -9, I'd feel better about this. It's never easy coming from 4 back, she'll need help from those ahead of her or have to shoot at least 66 or better, likely better. 

 

She's definitely going to need to back up yesterday's 66 with another low round. Cheyenne has been amazingly consistent, but will the pressure get to her? An even par round opens the door. In five previous final rounds this season she has only one round in the 60's, a 69 at the Honda.

 

[HMHS]

Again, I believe that the final flight does not get it done. 

 

Not rooting for anyone specifically and I truly believe it's more random who wins today (given how putting is such a wildcard here and one can literally come back from 7 down  - eg 20+ players still can do it).   If I were betting, hedging my bets...  

 

 

[woahnelly]

Cheyenne was quietly good last season , 2 shots is not safe, there is a lot of firepower behind her. 

 

I will be surprised if Hae Ran does not win ROTY. She may break through this week, depending which putter shows up today. 

[Stooch]

repiled to wrong person oops. lol

Edited April 30, 2023 by Stooch

[Stooch]

2 hours ago, HMHS said:

Again, I believe that the final flight does not get it done. 

 

Not rooting for anyone specifically and I truly believe it's more random who wins today (given how putting is such a wildcard here and one can literally come back from 7 down  - eg 20+ players still can do it).   If I were betting, hedging my bets...  

 

 

 

If betting, it's a top 10 or top 5 or other prop type bets for this event.  I guess if you like someone with long enough odds then why not perfect place for it, but I even avoid match-up bets just too many wildcards.  lol