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9 hours ago, JohnnyHangs said:

The standard qi10 was that low spin for you? It seems its pretty mid to high spin comparatively in head to heads that I've seen. I despise the hook to the left. 

I can’t express enough, you’ve gotta go hit all 3 heads. From what I’ve gathered and even my fitting, results are allllll over the place. I ended up going with a mid mid shaft 10.5 LS. 

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7 hours ago, Tree Levino said:

Anybody had the chance to test the LS with the TR blue 6x and VF 6x? Going to order both and test on course. 

I tried the standard with a TR 6x blue tipped 1”. For me it felt so stable but (and I’ve recently become a bit of a lower spin player needing more spin) but 10.5 head opened 1 click was 14 launch and I couldn’t get the spin above 1800rpms with the standard head. 

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Fitted for the Stealth 2 Plus last year. GooD driver and I had a lot of success with it. Ordered a Qi10 in the same loft as I hoped it would be more forgiving. Took it to the sim last night. Dropped the loft down to 7 and was amazed. Much better looking, much more

user friendly. I don’t usually hit well in a sim but one after another was straight as a string. Was getting the same launch as the Stealth 2+, much better control and increased ball speed by 5 mph which I can only attribute to the face being open so I feel like I can really release it without it going left. Increased carry by just shy of 10 yards. Would not have guessed it having been fit last year. Can’t wait for warmer weather. 

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1 hour ago, Tommyboi95 said:

I can’t express enough, you’ve gotta go hit all 3 heads. From what I’ve gathered and even my fitting, results are allllll over the place. I ended up going with a mid mid shaft 10.5 LS. 

Yea i had the opportunity to hit the standard and LS. Honestly liked the LS feel off the face better, but it barely spun at 2100 on fades. just knew it wouldn't work for me when I hit a draw. 

 

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11 hours ago, StarFleetGolfer said:

Anyone compared the LS to the AI smoke triple 💎 ?

 

I have two hours of Trackman coming tonight to compare these two. And I'm a 108-110SS/-1*AoA/-4* swing path guy so I hit mostly fades and have always tried to find the lowest spin head I could. Cant agree more that you probably have to hit all these heads for yourself to see what works.

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9 hours ago, JohnnyHangs said:

Yea i had the opportunity to hit the standard and LS. Honestly liked the LS feel off the face better, but it barely spun at 2100 on fades. just knew it wouldn't work for me when I hit a draw. 

 

I had similar results in my fitting as well. I was getting 1600 ish backspin out of draws in the LS which is my normal shot shape. Settled on a 10.5 standard model set to lower. The standard Qi10 is the best looking at address compared to Ping and Callaway Max IMO so I’m pretty happy with the results. 

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13 hours ago, StarFleetGolfer said:

Anyone compared the LS to the AI smoke triple 💎 ?

I think this year you have to try them yourself. From reviews on YouTube it seems like the Ai smoke is really easy to launch but I was hitting it terribly with no spin no launch. Qi 10 LS launched great for me but just fractionally too low spin. I’m 110 SS, 4 up, 5 in to out.

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4 minutes ago, BraddyBlades said:

I had similar results in my fitting as well. I was getting 1600 ish backspin out of draws in the LS which is my normal shot shape. Settled on a 10.5 standard model set to lower. The standard Qi10 is the best looking at address compared to Ping and Callaway Max IMO so I’m pretty happy with the results. 

What shaft did you land on?

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36 minutes ago, Lumberjack627 said:

That’s interesting. I tried the tensei black and blue also the Kai’li but did not try the Diamana 

I’d say it’s a blue board profile with a slightly higher balance point, I don’t think it’s counter balanced though. My gamer is an og Ventus blue 6x tipped .5. So with this stock shaft I get a little more launch out of it and hit it pretty straight. Erred on the side of more spin since my miss is left of left.

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3 minutes ago, BraddyBlades said:

I’d say it’s a blue board profile with a slightly higher balance point, I don’t think it’s counter balanced though. My gamer is an og Ventus blue 6x tipped .5. So with this stock shaft I get a little more launch out of it and hit it pretty straight. Erred on the side of more spin since my miss is left of left.

I’ll have to give it a try. I need a low spin shaft as spin for me is way to high and a huge issue 

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7 minutes ago, Lumberjack627 said:

I’ll have to give it a try. I need a low spin shaft as spin for me is way to high and a huge issue 

Shaft will only do so much. Should really be targeting the head. Low spin design. And especially loft. 
 

Can I ask what kind of spin you’re typically getting?

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21 minutes ago, Lumberjack627 said:

I’ll have to give it a try. I need a low spin shaft as spin for me is way to high and a huge issue 

 

 

... As a smooth swinger that has always fit into Mid-Mid-Mid Blueboard style shafts I don't find much difference in them other than feel. And even that is a subtle difference. Higher swing speed hitters may find a bigger difference. If you demo'ed the Tensei Blue and Kai'Li Blue, you basically hit the Diamana T+ as far as spin and trajectory. I too liked the Diamana the best as far as a smooth and dampened feel but would play the Tensei or Kai Li and not feel like I am missing out. I have the Kai'Li Blue in both my fairway woods but for now, I am sticking with the Ventus Red Velo in my Qi10 Max. 

Driver:       TM Qi10 ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405
Fairway:    TM Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:    Ping G430 22* ... Alta CB Black 70r
                  TM Dhy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r

Irons:         Titleist T200 '23 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:    Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:       Cobra King Sport-60
Ball:           2024 TP5x/2023 Maxfli Tour

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22 minutes ago, radiman said:

Shaft will only do so much. Should really be targeting the head. Low spin design. And especially loft. 
 

Can I ask what kind of spin you’re typically getting?

I know it’s all me and my swing and I’m working on not coming over the top which kills my distance but here is a good example from a track man 

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4 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

 

... As a smooth swinger that has always fit into Mid-Mid-Mid Blueboard style shafts I don't find much difference in them other than feel. And even that is a subtle difference. Higher swing speed hitters may find a bigger difference. If you demo'ed the Tensei Blue and Kai'Li Blue, you basically hit the Diamana T+ as far as spin and trajectory. I too liked the Diamana the best as far as a smooth and dampened feel but would play the Tensei or Kai Li and not feel like I am missing out. I have the Kai'Li Blue in both my fairway woods but for now, I am sticking with the Ventus Red Velo in my Qi10 Max. 

I really don’t need the stock shaft but it’s always good to try something because you never know if it will work out better. I have a va composite Vylan and ventus blue so I’ll be working on those 2 plus the stock as well as my swing to get me back to hitting fairway finders. 

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5 minutes ago, Lumberjack627 said:

I know it’s all me and my swing and I’m working on not coming over the top which kills my distance but here is a good example from a track man 

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We have similar SS but I’m 4-5 in to out and 4 up and I can struggle with spin on modern Ls heads. You might want to try something heavier and something that will help with lowering spin.

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14 minutes ago, Lumberjack627 said:

really don’t need the stock shaft but it’s always good to try something because you never know if it will work out better.

 

 

... I know that is an anti WRX statement but I 100% agree with you. The majority of the time an aftermarket shaft I own performs better than the stock shaft. But every now and then the stock shaft surprises me and produces the best results. As you said, you don't know unless you try. 

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Driver:       TM Qi10 ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405
Fairway:    TM Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:    Ping G430 22* ... Alta CB Black 70r
                  TM Dhy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r

Irons:         Titleist T200 '23 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:    Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:       Cobra King Sport-60
Ball:           2024 TP5x/2023 Maxfli Tour

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On 2/6/2024 at 12:08 PM, JoeFrigo said:

 Ordered my Qi10 w/ Tensei AV White on 1/9 and there's no movement yet at all

 

I went to Golf Galaxy yesterday and they didnt even received Tour fairways saying there is a head shortage

DD told me my driver is “in production” and should ship in 1-2 days. 

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1 hour ago, chisag said:

 

 

... I know that is an anti WRX statement but I 100% agree with you. The majority of the time an aftermarket shaft I own performs better than the stock shaft. But every now and then the stock shaft surprises me and produces the best results. As you said, you don't know unless you try. 

And that’s what I’m going to do, try the Tenesi black I got with it and tested at the fitting and see what works best. If by chance it does then I’ll be selling some shafts. 

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1 hour ago, BraddyBlades said:

We have similar SS but I’m 4-5 in to out and 4 up and I can struggle with spin on modern Ls heads. You might want to try something heavier and something that will help with lowering spin.

So heavier as in shaft or head ?  What what could possibly help me with spin besides my swing which I think is 90 percent of the problem. 

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