JT and Bones breaking up

[woahnelly]

50 minutes ago, m d g said:

 

Yes. I'm sure he's just dying to make $ 30,000/year...

 

6 figures if she does well at the USWO

 

Lexi is back to being good again since the Solheim Cup

 

Outside the PGA, JT wasn't exactly raking in the green for him.  

 

If he wants $, go to LIV 😁😁

Edited April 4 by woahnelly

[WorkItBothWays]

4 hours ago, Golfinfloridaafter40 said:

If that was the case, he would be winning or at least be top 10 a lot more often than he is.  At this point Rory is a waste of talent more so than a supreme talent as you suggest. Of course you have to have supreme talent to be a waste so I guess you have a point.

 

However, if you think the caddie doesn't matter or has little value, than you do not have a very good understanding of competitive golf at the top level

I've never said or thought that caddies don't matter. I had a brief experience caddying on the old European Tour so I've seen first-hand for myself what is involved and how much of a difference it can make at the elite level. It was only ever going to be short-term for me but I've got a good understanding from real experience.

[Loose_Ferrule]

2 hours ago, elwhippy said:

Rory needs to hire Bones. 

With all due resect this is the last thing Rory needs. He may need a caddy change but Bones and Rory would have the same ending as this current story.

[dekez]

10 hours ago, Ferguson said:

 

I need a link to that article, please.

 

     

 

Here it is. 

 

https://www.si.com/golf/2024/03/24/justin-thomas-putting-valspar-bay-hill-players-scottie-scheffler#:~:text=Thomas is one of the,putting out of 178 players.

[Ferguson]

56 minutes ago, dekez said:

 

Here it is. 

 

https://www.si.com/golf/2024/03/24/justin-thomas-putting-valspar-bay-hill-players-scottie-scheffler#:~:text=Thomas is one of the,putting out of 178 players.

 

Thanks.  Was JT ever a great putter? 

 

And although the article fails to state it, poor putting by Thomas could be an indication of problems at home. 

Your thoughts?

 

 

[kiwigolf72]

2 hours ago, Ferguson said:

 

Thanks.  Was JT ever a great putter? 

 

And although the article fails to state it, poor putting by Thomas could be an indication of problems at home. 

Your thoughts?

 

 

94% of 3 putts can be traced back to marital problems.

Edited April 5 by kiwigolf72

[dekez]

21 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

 

Thanks.  Was JT ever a great putter? 

 

And although the article fails to state it, poor putting by Thomas could be an indication of problems at home. 

Your thoughts?

 

 

No idea.  I have not followed Justin closely.  He never struck me as a bad putter though. That's why the article caught my attention.

[kmbean]

JT’s confidence level has been on a downward trajectory ever since he was handed that Tampax on national television.

Edited April 5 by kmbean

[m d g]

1 hour ago, kiwigolf72 said:

94% of 3 putts can be traced back to martial problems.

 

[tiderider]

5 hours ago, PeterJP said:

There's that old saying that tournament golf at the highest level is 90% mental. But I'd say that maybe it's actually 90% 'character' (and whatever combination of ego / will / discipline / upbringing / environment / ambition / soul-spirit / humility / needs / underlying belief-systems / desire / choice-making etc describes and comprises that). In terms of sheer talent, I don't think I've ever seen more purely and/or naturally talented professional golfers than Greg Norman and John Daly -- but both ended up with 'only' two majors, the former (subtly) self-sabotaging and/or unlucky on the golf course, but otherwise presenting as a confident and healthy-minded and highly successful individual in life, the latter (overtly) self-defeating on the golf course, and otherwise presenting as rambunctiously addicted (gambling, drinking etc) and happily self-destructive in life. 

All of which is to say: I think when it comes to major championship wins, it 'all comes out in the wash'.  There has to be top-flight talent in order to win more than one, that's for sure -- but there's also a certain character required. I don't know the first thing about JT or his 'character' or his inner life (nor about Rory's etc.). He certainly seems outwardly more in the healthy-minded camp, but if he's got 'only' 2 majors, well, maybe that's precisely how many he 'should' have -- and I don't think his choice of caddy will have much impact one way or another. 

 

yep ... if he can't figure out the putting, doesn't matter who's on the bag ... 

 

 

[snagy2000]

On 4/4/2024 at 8:38 PM, tiderider said:

yep ... if he can't figure out the putting, doesn't matter who's on the bag ... 

 

 

Guess it was Bones' fault he lost 7 strokes to field a few Saturdays ago...

Edited April 7 by snagy2000

[Ferguson]

11 hours ago, kiwigolf72 said:

94% of 3 putts can be traced back to marital problems.

 

That number has skyrocketed in recent years.  

[naval2006]

11 hours ago, m d g said:

 

A buddy of mine used to ask on anybody's bad putting day:  "did you have an argument with your wife before coming." LOL

[m d g]

3 hours ago, naval2006 said:

A buddy of mine used to ask on anybody's bad putting day:  "did you have an argument with your wife before coming." LOL

 

That's what we say about greeenskeepers who put flags 2 feet from the edge on steep ridges : )

[kamaaina1]

On 4/3/2024 at 12:09 PM, TheMoneyShot said:

Interesting timing with the Masters next week.  Wonder who will be looping for JT now? 

Gooch* ?

[Chopper Dave]

22 hours ago, kiwigolf72 said:

94% of 3 putts can be traced back to marital problems.

The other 6% is beer. But unlike a frosty misso you can’t stay mad at a frosty can and you will go back.

[Maine Golfer]

I like JT, I think he's a bit of a head case / underachiever. I'm sure Bones will be fine one way or the other. 

[Kaysquare]

This weekend Bones is doing interviews & commentary at the Augusta Amateur Women's tournament.

[Ferguson]

I generally trust whatever I read about golf  but in this case involving Bones I believe we are not getting the "whole" truth.  

 

It's forced me not to trust other things in my life, such as people named after a US city.  

 

 

[IndyArcher]

10 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

I generally trust whatever I read about golf  but in this case involving Bones I believe we are not getting the "whole" truth.  

 

It's forced me not to trust other things in my life, such as people named after a US city.  

 

 

 

Sage advice, but complex as well. What if a person is named after a city named after a person??? Determining trustworthiness may require peeling back some layers. 

[Pepperturbo]

On 4/3/2024 at 11:27 AM, Hawkeye77 said:

LOL, he's never going back to Phil.

 

Bones and JT seemed like a poor match to start with even though they are both excellent at what they do.  Not surprised they didn't gel even though I don't know either of them personally.

Agree.  I was surprised at that pairing. 

 

JT isn't much of an interactor, fights mental issues, while Bones appears to like his opinion on all aspects, acknowledged.  Bones likes big money too, so his employer needs to be generous even when he doesn't make cuts.

Edited April 6 by Pepperturbo

[caniac6]

Bones is really good at the ANWA. The only bag he should carry in the future is his own.

[PedronNiall]

On 4/4/2024 at 9:38 PM, tiderider said:

yep ... if he can't figure out the putting, doesn't matter who's on the bag ... 

 

 

 

Most other players trust their caddies to assist with reads. It's dumb how many times Rory keeps effing up putts and burning edges when just two or three more dropping sees him taking a win outright. He doesn't need to pull a Wyndham and have his caddie change his diaper and aim his putts for him, but refusing to trust your caddie to remind you of the tendencies near or on the green is no bueno. 

 

There's also hitting low percentage shots when the middle ground would give him better chances and not remembering to dial back from 125 and in. All of those are things good caddies regularly help their players with that Ror's best bud brings none of. 

 

TBF I'm sure he hasn't gone another route because he's not willing to listen and he knows no one else would stay on his bag doing nothing but carrying and chatting for five and six days at a time. Show up, keep up, shut up worked when most others also had caddies who gave no input, but most give intelligent insights now so not availing yourself of that is a distinct disadvantage. 

[Ferguson]

16 hours ago, IndyArcher said:

 

Sage advice, but complex as well. What if a person is named after a city named after a person??? Determining trustworthiness may require peeling back some layers. 

 

Trust must be earned!  It starts when you meet someone. 

 

Let's say you want to get in a quick 9 after work and they tell you, I have another member here ready go.  He shows up at the first tee, sticks out his hand and says, "Hello, I am Dick St. Louis."   Any normal person or WRX'er is going to question it.  

As they should!

 

 

[BHI 99]

18 hours ago, caniac6 said:

Bones is really good at the ANWA. The only bag he should carry in the future is his own.

With the knowledge and experience he has it’s a waste to carry a bag, especially JT’s. I think he has a lot to offer for golf in general from a much different perspective. 

[Golfinfloridaafter40]

Bhatia and Bones would be awesome!

[ALIF]

JT seems like a head case. Doesn’t look like he enjoys playing. 

[PedronNiall]

7 hours ago, Golfinfloridaafter40 said:

Bhatia and Bones would be awesome!

 

Probably hard to beat the local knowledge Bones has at pretty much every major tour stop. Bhatia really seemed to gel with the guy he had temping on the bag this week, though. They mentioned he used to coach a collegiate program previously but sounds like he's open to a full-time gig. 

[Golfinfloridaafter40]

4 hours ago, PedronNiall said:

 

Probably hard to beat the local knowledge Bones has at pretty much every major tour stop. Bhatia really seemed to gel with the guy he had temping on the bag this week, though. They mentioned he used to coach a collegiate program previously but sounds like he's open to a full-time gig. 

They said Bhatia's agent is looking for the right fit at caddie. Just makes sense

[BHI 99]

5 hours ago, ALIF said:

JT seems like a head case. Doesn’t look like he enjoys playing. 

I mean, he owns a doodle….🤣