What's a good 50 degree wedge?

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  • jaycevsjaycevs Members Posts: 39 ✭✭

    I also have the 50/11 Cleveland CBX. I wanted the lighter weight shaft in the stock option, and some more forgiveness on full shots. The sound definitely is different, and is little early to tell, but it overall sucks that Mizuno doesn't offer a matching gap wedge for the 919 Pro.

  • Weezer2Weezer2 Members Posts: 143 ✭✭✭

    CBX or CBX 2 when it comes out later this month. CBX is on sale right now for $100 US.

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  • KevCannonKevCannon ClubWRX Posts: 263 ClubWRX

    Another vote for Vokey 50 F grind- 8 degrees bounce. I have tried the 12 degree bounce 50 and absolutely prefer the 8 degree. Consistent distance on full shots, can use for partial shots, great around green and occasional longer bunker shot.

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  • jsnolandjsnoland Members Posts: 172 ✭✭✭

    You might check out the Callaway Mack Daddy Forged - I carry a 50, 54 and 58 and love the feel and flight they provide. They kicked the Vokeys out of the bag and will likely stay there for a while. You can find good deals on used ones at callawaygolfpreowned.com - I've bought several there and the prices are typically pretty good.

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  • jsnolandjsnoland Members Posts: 172 ✭✭✭

    Although I'll say that the Vokey 50.08 was a really good gap wedge for me - was slightly edged out by the MD Forged due to the softer feel. But of all the Vokeys, that one was my favorite.

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  • Steele47Steele47 Members Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    The one that looks good to your eye.

  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,904 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    With the 50-degree Vokeys, I played some "number" model back before the Spin Milled. Like 250 or 450 or something. Then when the grooves were shot I got a Spin Milled 50-degree and when it wore out it was a SM4 (I think) 50-degree. Between those three wedge I played for nearly a decade and they were my favorite club in the bag.

    Been playing all sorts of "set" gap wedges or Callaways or Mizunos or whatever for the past few years. Going back to Vokey, in this case an SM6 50.12, has been wonderful. It's like I hit a shot, look up and the ball is flying right where I expect it be based on the feeling of contact. It's like a security blanket club, even if I'm playing bad if I can just get somewhere around the 100 yard marker I'm gonna be alright!

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  • golfinrig24golfinrig24 Grande Prairie, ABMembers Posts: 98 ✭✭✭

    Mizuno T7 ion blue 50.08 just has a great shape.

  • Sleeky_DSleeky_D ClubWRX Posts: 67 ClubWRX

    @North Butte said:
    Not trying to thread-jack and I know OP was asking about lower-bounce options.

    But literally the day after seeing this thread I picked up a Vokey SM6 50.12 and played it this weekend. Man I love that club. So much better than the GW from my JPX 900 Hot Metal set. I like a lot bounce, myself.

    Sorry. Now back to suggestions for pmcuk's son o:)

    So glad to read this. I just picked up a sm7 50(12) that I'm hoping will work out nicely for me since I prefer a lot of bounce. But to answer the OP question, I would highly recommend the TM milled grind 50(09). Loved the set up and feel of the wedge, but I just needed more bounce!

  • HabrownleeHabrownlee Habrownlee Members Posts: 53 ✭✭

    I have a mizuno raw finish 50 degree. Love the rust and it spins like crazy.

  • kmckmc Members Posts: 193 ✭✭✭

    Vokey 50/8. Just replaced my CF16 gap wedge. Real deal.

  • ChemistChemist Members Posts: 9 ✭✭

    I always recommend the Nike Engage wedges, I have a 50°, though it does have an 11° bounce and it's a great club, nice compact shape, I find them a nice weight and the turf interaction with the straight sole model I have is very good. However I also have the AW that matches my VRS Covert Irons, it's 48° with 8.5° of bounce and its really good as well, I swap them around from time to time, depending on my mood (and confidence with the wedges in general at the time of course!). I also always have a soft spot for the Mizuno MP-R series of wedges, another nice compact design that really performed for me, though those will be rare to find now.

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  • solidsnakeivsolidsnakeiv FloridaMembers Posts: 19 ✭✭

    I know this will probably get some hate, but if you are a mid-handicapper...or even a single handicapper....the Mizuno JPX Gap Wedge that matches the 919 sets is 50 degrees and extremely easy to hit. I replaced my MD3 with it and have no regrets.

  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,904 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, I hope the 919 gap wedge is better than the one came with my JPX 900 Hot Metal set. That one was a real dog. I hit a 52 degree Vokey a good 4-5 yards longer than the 50-degree set GW. And the 45-degree set PW was nearly 20 yards longer. Just a strangely poor performing club in such a "hot" and excellent set of irons.

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  • Bogey2BirdieBogey2Birdie West Palm BeachMembers Posts: 41 ✭✭

    Same offset as your PW...if its more I am left of pin...or my fix is zipping through impact to straighten it out

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  • mark_panekmark_panek PennsylvaniaMembers Posts: 7 ✭✭

    Callaway Mack Daddy 4 S grind with 10 degrees of bounce is working well for me. I have a very flat swing and use the club for full shots from a variety of conditions (soft, firm, rough) with good results. Others I demoed and liked, Mizuno S18, Vokey S and F grinds. I used to play Cleveland wedges but don't like their current offerings. Callaway Mack Daddy 4 and Mizuno S18 are on deep discounts right now to make way for newer models.

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  • tgoodspe1991tgoodspe1991 New EnglandMembers Posts: 874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tlehmann said:
    Vokey dominates for a reason

    Because they pay their players?

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  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,904 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 14, 2019 3:16pm #49

    @tgoodspe1991 said:

    @tlehmann said:
    Vokey dominates for a reason

    Because they pay their players?

    I think you'd be surprised how little money changes hands, in total, for Tour players using Titleist clubs or Vokey wedges or Cameron putters. Per player using those clubs on Tour it is almost insignificant, although a few Brand Ambassadors do get substantial pay.

    The notion that professionals playing for tens of millions of dollars in tournament purses per year are playing something other than the best club for their game is laughable.

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  • tgoodspe1991tgoodspe1991 New EnglandMembers Posts: 874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @North Butte said:

    @tgoodspe1991 said:

    @tlehmann said:
    Vokey dominates for a reason

    Because they pay their players?

    I think you'd be surprised how little money changes hands, in total, for Tour players using Titleist clubs or Vokey wedges or Cameron putters. Per player using those clubs on Tour it is almost insignificant, although a few Brand Ambassadors do get substantial pay.

    The notion that professionals playing for tens of millions of dollars in tournament purses per year are playing something other than the best club for their game is laughable.

    I dunno. Xander Schauffele talked about how he switched to Oydssey because they had a promo going on paying players and he thought "Might as well start making some money." It ended up working well for him so he stuck with it, but I'd bet there are plenty of guys outside the Top-50 that are looking for any cash they can get. The PGA Tour isn't a guarantee for life so they have to get what they can while they have the opportunity.

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  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Allez Allez Allez Minnesota, USAMembers Posts: 6,523 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @tgoodspe1991 said:

    @North Butte said:

    @tgoodspe1991 said:

    @tlehmann said:
    Vokey dominates for a reason

    Because they pay their players?

    I think you'd be surprised how little money changes hands, in total, for Tour players using Titleist clubs or Vokey wedges or Cameron putters. Per player using those clubs on Tour it is almost insignificant, although a few Brand Ambassadors do get substantial pay.

    The notion that professionals playing for tens of millions of dollars in tournament purses per year are playing something other than the best club for their game is laughable.

    I dunno. Xander Schauffele talked about how he switched to Oydssey because they had a promo going on paying players and he thought "Might as well start making some money." It ended up working well for him so he stuck with it, but I'd bet there are plenty of guys outside the Top-50 that are looking for any cash they can get. The PGA Tour isn't a guarantee for life so they have to get what they can while they have the opportunity.

    The PGA Tour is absolutely loaded with stories of players not using anything without being paid. It's only been recently that some have gone endorsement-free, and they appear to be the large minority.

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  • duffduff Members Posts: 271 ✭✭✭✭

    @pmcuk said:
    I use a KZG forged 50/6 wedge which I'm very fond of. My son is looking for a new 50* wedge to replace a Vokey with 12* bounce, which he finds is too much. So what would be a good option for a 50* wedge with bounce 6-10*? Could be forged or not. Could also be a gap wedge from a set of irons.

    Suggest some good ones!

    As others have mentioned, you can't go wrong with the Vokey 50 8* wedge. The 50 would make an excellent gap type wedge and 8* bounce is a good all around bounce. Not too low or too high.

  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,904 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Aug 14, 2019 8:27pm #53

    Sorry to have encouraged the thread-jack into "pay for play" among the millionaires on the PGA Tour.

    My reasons for liking Vokey wedges probably have more to do with them being the choice of with my teaching pro, his assistant, the previous assistant he had before that as well both the pros on staff at my club. Club pros with Callaway, Mizuno or Titleist bags always seem to have Vokey wedges (and Scotty putters) funny as it may seem.

    Our club pro is hooked up with Mizuno and thinks the sun rises and sets on MP irons. I asked him once if he'd ever tried any of the Mizuno wedges and he looked at my like I was out of my mind. He said, "Vokeys. Always Vokeys".

    Along with Pro V1 it's one of the golf products that have remarkable loyalty from long-time users.

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  • jdvela55jdvela55 Sin City, NVMembers Posts: 553 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mack Daddy 2 50*/12. Favorite club in my bag.

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  • Merlin4542Merlin4542 Henrik Fan MidwestMembers Posts: 58 ✭✭

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  • agadawg17171agadawg17171 Bomb and Gouge The ATLMembers Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Why is he wanting less bounce? It may not be a bounce issue and more of a grind issue. Most will tell you bounce is your friend! :D It would be easier to recommend something if I knew why the 12* was too much.... Also what kid of shots does he use it for the most?

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  • HaberHaber Members Posts: 134 ✭✭✭

    I just picked up a cobra king black gap wedge to go with my cb/mb set and have been really impressed with it. The versatile grind has 8° bounce and is great on full shots and around the greens.

  • johnnythundersjohnnythunders ClubWRX Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Mizuno jpx 919 forged gap wedge, not the non forged chronology ones. They come up on eBay used or lightly used for less than 100. I have two, one with a dynamic gold 105 stiff and one with a gold 95 regular. Trying decide which one to keep. I use it from ever where, replaced my sandwedge for chipping. They are 51 and not sure what the bounce is but it is so accurate and feels so solid.

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  • pmcukpmcuk Members Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I see a lot of love for the Cleveland RTX. What's the feel like - firm or a little softer?

  • howellhandmadehowellhandmade Members Posts: 778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Firmer than Mizuno, but not a big deal IMO. Due to the blade shape I find all the wedges I’ve played feel soft enough out of the middle and clicky off the toe. I have Mizuno irons and Cleveland RTX4 wedges; the variety of shots and lies dealt with by the wedges makes shape, grind, and look more important than outright impact feel.

  • AwalkspoiledAwalkspoiled Members Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, when you figure out which one you're keeping sell me the other!

    @johnnythunders said:
    Mizuno jpx 919 forged gap wedge, not the non forged chronology ones. They come up on eBay used or lightly used for less than 100. I have two, one with a dynamic gold 105 stiff and one with a gold 95 regular. Trying decide which one to keep. I use it from ever where, replaced my sandwedge for chipping. They are 51 and not sure what the bounce is but it is so accurate and feels so solid.

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