SNELL GOLF BALLS??? anyone???

[flushem]

I would like to hear from Dean about the result.

 

The "X" sales will skyrocket with the publicity from mgs.

 

 

[otw]

Most surprising X golf ball very good rating on performance and MTB Black rated good. Somehow i don't buy that finding.

[Jagpilotohio]

Impressive test results for the MTB-X on that other forum. May have to give them a try when my XV supply gets low.

[GolfTurkey]

After reading the test results I’m a bit more excited to receive my order of MTB X that I had placed a while ago.

[C_rad]

It is sure i will make an order once i am out of srixon

[Minarets]

> @GolfTurkey said:

> After reading the test results I’m a bit more excited to receive my order of MTB X that I had placed a while ago.

 

Yeah, makes a me think I need to switch from MTB Black to X (prov1 to ProV1x) based off that article. Lol.

[lopey986]

> @flushem said:

> I would like to hear from Dean about the result.

>

> The "X" sales will skyrocket with the publicity from ****.

>

>

 

I'd like to hear his thoughts on the dispersion part of the testing, because the snell was way right off the driver compared to basically every other ball tested, can't imagine any fader/slicers would want to play that ball even with the extra distance.

[Sixcat]

> @lopey986 said:

> > @flushem said:

> > I would like to hear from Dean about the result.

> >

> > The "X" sales will skyrocket with the publicity from ****.

> >

> >

>

> I'd like to hear his thoughts on the dispersion part of the testing, because the snell was way right off the driver compared to basically every other ball tested, can't imagine any fader/slicers would want to play that ball even with the extra distance.

 

The MTB-Black was 5.38 yards right on average. The MTB-X was 8.57 yards left.

[lopey986]

> @Sixcat said:

> > @lopey986 said:

> > > @flushem said:

> > > I would like to hear from Dean about the result.

> > >

> > > The "X" sales will skyrocket with the publicity from ****.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I'd like to hear his thoughts on the dispersion part of the testing, because the snell was way right off the driver compared to basically every other ball tested, can't imagine any fader/slicers would want to play that ball even with the extra distance.

>

> The MTB-Black was 5.38 yards right on average. The MTB-X was 8.57 yards left.

 

Oops, correct. The X tested out great all around. The black was the one that was way right. Thanks for correcting me.

 

Also, anyone who has ordered under 5 doz (i'm going to grab 3 doz.) it says in the free shipping selection that it is 2 days on orders of less than 5 doz. Has that held true for everyone? Would REALLY like to get them in hand before I play 72 holes this weekend.

[cpeck]

you will get them within 3 days. never a problem when i have ordered has shipping right on time. @lopey986

[monkeyboy]

> @Sixcat said:

> > @lopey986 said:

> > > @flushem said:

> > > I would like to hear from Dean about the result.

> > >

> > > The "X" sales will skyrocket with the publicity from ****.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I'd like to hear his thoughts on the dispersion part of the testing, because the snell was way right off the driver compared to basically every other ball tested, can't imagine any fader/slicers would want to play that ball even with the extra distance.

>

> The MTB-Black was 5.38 yards right on average. The MTB-X was 8.57 yards left.

A Snell fanboy here...

Right or Left really has no bearing - consistency is what should be looked at.

If other top tier balls are on average 2 yards offline with a driver - is it so concerning to you if Snell is 8 yards offline? Again, these are averages using near perfect / consistent hits.

7 iron, Snell being maybe 1.5 yards 'more' offline than the straighter balls.

 

I really never thought in my head, in real life testing of premium balls, that any were more offline than others. Probably because we are not robots and do not make pure strikes every time. Never thought the Snell Red, Black, MTB-X gave me weird dispersion results in real life play.

 

The test results can lead to analysis paralysis. It is good data to help with your decision making process, but in my humble opinion, should not be used as an absolute. Do your own testing - go with what you are confident with. With that said, I may try some Bridgestone Tour BX to see if I notice any improved dispersion consistency before settling on a permanent ball for this season.

 

[Sixcat]

> @monkeyboy said:

> > @Sixcat said:

> > > @lopey986 said:

> > > > @flushem said:

> > > > I would like to hear from Dean about the result.

> > > >

> > > > The "X" sales will skyrocket with the publicity from ****.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > I'd like to hear his thoughts on the dispersion part of the testing, because the snell was way right off the driver compared to basically every other ball tested, can't imagine any fader/slicers would want to play that ball even with the extra distance.

> >

> > The MTB-Black was 5.38 yards right on average. The MTB-X was 8.57 yards left.

> A Snell fanboy here...

> Right or Left really has no bearing - consistency is what should be looked at.

> If other top tier balls are on average 2 yards offline with a driver - is it so concerning to you if Snell is 8 yards offline? Again, these are averages using near perfect / consistent hits.

> 7 iron, Snell being maybe 1.5 yards 'more' offline than the straighter balls.

>

> I really never thought in my head, in real life testing of premium balls, that any were more offline than others. Probably because we are not robots and do not make pure strikes every time. Never thought the Snell Red, Black, MTB-X gave me weird dispersion results in real life play.

>

> The test results can lead to analysis paralysis. It is good data to help with your decision making process, but in my humble opinion, should not be used as an absolute. Do your own testing - go with what you are confident with. With that said, I may try some Bridgestone Tour BX to see if I notice any improved dispersion consistency before settling on a permanent ball for this season.

>

 

I have been playing the Staff Duo Spin for a couple of years. Now that my kids are teenagers, I can get out almost every afternoon for at least 9-holes. My game has rounded back into a familiar form to what it was before kids. I need a better ball with more spin and control closer to the green. I plan on testing the ProV1/ProV1X against the Snell MTB-X/Black to see which works best for my game. If I don't notice a difference in the Titleist and Snell balls, I will save myself $20 a dozen. If I do notice a difference, it comes down to how much of a difference.

 

The M-G-S test isn't an "end all be all" but is a very useful tool for help in getting the right ball in play for your game if you are honest with yourself about your own game. But it still comes down to your own experience with each ball.

[GDTBATH]

Dean, I'd be really interested to hear your thoughts in a recent ball test that was released. I say that as someone that has long been a Snell customer. It would be interesting to hear the thoughts of someone that understands the science on some of the things we've been debating on here. Snell is a great product (which is why I game it), but I find some of the discrepancies shocking. To me, i'd be hard-pressed to believe some of the differences in the balls that performed so poorly. It would also be interesting to get your thoughts on QC and then some of the deviation results. Thanks, as always, for your thoughts and your time.

[EastTNGolfer]

> @lopey986 said:

> > @Sixcat said:

> > > @lopey986 said:

> > > > @flushem said:

> > > > I would like to hear from Dean about the result.

> > > >

> > > > The "X" sales will skyrocket with the publicity from ****.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > I'd like to hear his thoughts on the dispersion part of the testing, because the snell was way right off the driver compared to basically every other ball tested, can't imagine any fader/slicers would want to play that ball even with the extra distance.

> >

> > The MTB-Black was 5.38 yards right on average. The MTB-X was 8.57 yards left.

>

> Oops, correct. The X tested out great all around. The black was the one that was way right. Thanks for correcting me.

>

> Also, anyone who has ordered under 5 doz (i'm going to grab 3 doz.) it says in the free shipping selection that it is 2 days on orders of less than 5 doz. Has that held true for everyone? Would REALLY like to get them in hand before I play 72 holes this weekend.

 

I placed an order for 1 doz of MTB-X late yesterday with the free 2 day shipping. Got a shipping notification today from FedEx that they will be delivered on Thursday.

[Greyghost18t]

Ordered a dozen of the blacks in yellow. looking forward to checking them out. Been playing the Kirkland 4 piece.

[QuigleyDU]

it did do pretty well. Highest ball speeds with the driver, and among the highest with the wedge. That's a lethal combo. It appears to be pretty firm though.

[QuigleyDU]

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[flushem]

> @monkeyboy said:

> > @Sixcat said:

> > > @lopey986 said:

> > > > @flushem said:

> > > > I would like to hear from Dean about the result.

> > > >

> > > > The "X" sales will skyrocket with the publicity from ****.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > I'd like to hear his thoughts on the dispersion part of the testing, because the snell was way right off the driver compared to basically every other ball tested, can't imagine any fader/slicers would want to play that ball even with the extra distance.

> >

> > The MTB-Black was 5.38 yards right on average. The MTB-X was 8.57 yards left.

> A Snell fanboy here...

> Right or Left really has no bearing - consistency is what should be looked at.

> If other top tier balls are on average 2 yards offline with a driver - is it so concerning to you if Snell is 8 yards offline? Again, these are averages using near perfect / consistent hits.

> 7 iron, Snell being maybe 1.5 yards 'more' offline than the straighter balls.

>

> I really never thought in my head, in real life testing of premium balls, that any were more offline than others. Probably because we are not robots and do not make pure strikes every time. Never thought the Snell Red, Black, MTB-X gave me weird dispersion results in real life play.

>

> The test results can lead to analysis paralysis. It is good data to help with your decision making process, but in my humble opinion, should not be used as an absolute. Do your own testing - go with what you are confident with. With that said, I may try some Bridgestone Tour BX to see if I notice any improved dispersion consistency before settling on a permanent ball for this season.

>

 

One major reason I walked away from ksig 4 was the inconsistency. MTB B has been reliably consistent and straight. no ballooning, no 90" duck hook/slice.

[Stanks]

What do you guys expect? Why are you so surprised the MTB X is at the top of the charts and MTB Black is getting equal respect / love? Dean made the original ProV1s and TPs. The dude is a ball stud.

It's been a hell of a year for the New England / Boston crown.

Patriots get another Super Bowl ring.

Red Sox won the World Series.

MTB X at the top of the golf ball charts on My Golf Spy.

Now, if the Celtics and Bruins can button these playoffs up, that'd be great.

[Celeras]

Snell has a good relationship with the spy guys, so I think a lot of people look at it as advertising. Especially when you notice that only specific balls (Snell, Titleist, Bridgestone) have links to purchase in the article, when everything else is plain text. They say something positive about Snell.. here's the amazon link to purchase. They say something positive about Callaway, no link.

 

This isnt an indictment on the test data itself, but you could argue that it isn't framed 100% objectively. For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it.

[dsc123]

Regarding the numbers for how far off-target the balls ended up....it says in the article that the machine was set up to hit a slight draw, and that 2 to 6 yards left is basically straight. So 8 yards is definitely off line, but its more like 4 yards off line.

[sosob34]

MTB-X (yellow and white) now on backorder until May 15.

[GolfTurkey]

> @Celeras said:

> Snell has a good relationship with the spy guys, so I think a lot of people look at it as advertising. Especially when you notice that only specific balls (Snell, Titleist, Bridgestone) have links to purchase in the article, when everything else is plain text. They say something positive about Snell.. here's the amazon link to purchase. They say something positive about Callaway, no link.

>

> This isnt an indictment on the test data itself, but you could argue that it isn't framed 100% objectively. For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it.

I think that they did a good job. If they wanted to be biased they could have removed the two outliier shots from the MTB X data without telling anyone. If they had done that, the MTB X would have been rated in the top category and been the stand out ball by far.

[trackcoach13]

> @Celeras said:

> Snell has a good relationship with the spy guys, so I think a lot of people look at it as advertising. Especially when you notice that only specific balls (Snell, Titleist, Bridgestone) have links to purchase in the article, when everything else is plain text. They say something positive about Snell.. here's the amazon link to purchase. They say something positive about Callaway, no link.

>

> This isnt an indictment on the test data itself, but you could argue that it isn't framed 100% objectively. For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it.

 

Stop with the BS. Every ball has a link under Check Price.

[Celeras]

> @trackcoach13 said:

> > @Celeras said:

> > Snell has a good relationship with the spy guys, so I think a lot of people look at it as advertising. Especially when you notice that only specific balls (Snell, Titleist, Bridgestone) have links to purchase in the article, when everything else is plain text. They say something positive about Snell.. here's the amazon link to purchase. They say something positive about Callaway, no link.

> >

> > This isnt an indictment on the test data itself, but you could argue that it isn't framed 100% objectively. For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it.

>

> Stop with the BS. Every ball has a link under Check Price.

 

And then you have people like this who, for whatever reason, feel the need to defend literally everything.

 

Some vendors have additional links every time they are mentioned. This isn't up for debate. It's fact. Some are linked more than others, even when being mentioned in the same exact positive context as other balls. See highlights.

 

 

[trackcoach13]

> @Celeras said:

> > @trackcoach13 said:

> > > @Celeras said:

> > > Snell has a good relationship with the spy guys, so I think a lot of people look at it as advertising. Especially when you notice that only specific balls (Snell, Titleist, Bridgestone) have links to purchase in the article, when everything else is plain text. They say something positive about Snell.. here's the amazon link to purchase. They say something positive about Callaway, no link.

> > >

> > > This isnt an indictment on the test data itself, but you could argue that it isn't framed 100% objectively. For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it.

> >

> > Stop with the BS. Every ball has a link under Check Price.

>

> And then you have people like this who, for whatever reason, feel the need to defend literally everything.

>

> Some vendors have additional links every time they are mentioned. This isn't up for debate. It's fact. They are linked more than others.

 

So what you got out of that article was a link count? Is that you Crusher?

 

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[Celeras]

> @trackcoach13 said:

> > @Celeras said:

> > > @trackcoach13 said:

> > > > @Celeras said:

> > > > Snell has a good relationship with the spy guys, so I think a lot of people look at it as advertising. Especially when you notice that only specific balls (Snell, Titleist, Bridgestone) have links to purchase in the article, when everything else is plain text. They say something positive about Snell.. here's the amazon link to purchase. They say something positive about Callaway, no link.

> > > >

> > > > This isnt an indictment on the test data itself, but you could argue that it isn't framed 100% objectively. For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it.

> > >

> > > Stop with the BS. Every ball has a link under Check Price.

> >

> > And then you have people like this who, for whatever reason, feel the need to defend literally everything.

> >

> > Some vendors have additional links every time they are mentioned. This isn't up for debate. It's fact. They are linked more than others.

>

> So what you got out of that article was a link count? Is that you Crusher?

 

Interesting interpretation, considering I specifically said "This isnt an indictment on the test data itself" and "For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it." But hey, I guess you have to fixate on something considering you have zero objective argument against anything that I've said.

[trackcoach13]

> @Celeras said:

> > @trackcoach13 said:

> > > @Celeras said:

> > > > @trackcoach13 said:

> > > > > @Celeras said:

> > > > > Snell has a good relationship with the spy guys, so I think a lot of people look at it as advertising. Especially when you notice that only specific balls (Snell, Titleist, Bridgestone) have links to purchase in the article, when everything else is plain text. They say something positive about Snell.. here's the amazon link to purchase. They say something positive about Callaway, no link.

> > > > >

> > > > > This isnt an indictment on the test data itself, but you could argue that it isn't framed 100% objectively. For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it.

> > > >

> > > > Stop with the BS. Every ball has a link under Check Price.

> > >

> > > And then you have people like this who, for whatever reason, feel the need to defend literally everything.

> > >

> > > Some vendors have additional links every time they are mentioned. This isn't up for debate. It's fact. They are linked more than others.

> >

> > So what you got out of that article was a link count? Is that you Crusher?

>

> Interesting interpretation, considering I specifically said "This isnt an indictment on the test data itself" and "For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it." But hey, I guess you have to fixate on something considering you have zero objective argument against anything that I've said.

 

I find what you said to be of NO VALUE to me. He had links for Maxfli, Check Go, Titleist, etc. What deep revelation have you made. I am scouring your every word for that deep insight that provides all the answers. LOL. You are fixated on garbage that isn't worth another thought. Bye.

[Celeras]

> @trackcoach13 said:

> > @Celeras said:

> > > @trackcoach13 said:

> > > > @Celeras said:

> > > > > @trackcoach13 said:

> > > > > > @Celeras said:

> > > > > > Snell has a good relationship with the spy guys, so I think a lot of people look at it as advertising. Especially when you notice that only specific balls (Snell, Titleist, Bridgestone) have links to purchase in the article, when everything else is plain text. They say something positive about Snell.. here's the amazon link to purchase. They say something positive about Callaway, no link.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This isnt an indictment on the test data itself, but you could argue that it isn't framed 100% objectively. For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Stop with the BS. Every ball has a link under Check Price.

> > > >

> > > > And then you have people like this who, for whatever reason, feel the need to defend literally everything.

> > > >

> > > > Some vendors have additional links every time they are mentioned. This isn't up for debate. It's fact. They are linked more than others.

> > >

> > > So what you got out of that article was a link count? Is that you Crusher?

> >

> > Interesting interpretation, considering I specifically said "This isnt an indictment on the test data itself" and "For what it's worth I don't have any issue with it." But hey, I guess you have to fixate on something considering you have zero objective argument against anything that I've said.

>

> I find what you said to be of NO VALUE to me. He had links for Maxfli, Check Go, Titleist, etc. What deep revelation have you made. I am scouring your every word for that deep insight that provides all the answers. LOL. You are fixated on garbage that isn't worth another thought. Bye.

 

You sure do spend a lot of time replying and crying about things you place no value on. And I'm not quite sure how my two sentence original post, in reply to someone else's shock, was me fixating on anything.

 

Quick, let me say "Bye" so I can pretend I have the last word.

[rjp322]

I ordered the sample pack today and probably will order a sleeve or two of some of the other top balls. I play the chrome soft which I like but according to that test it’s one of the worst tour balls out there