Billy H

[nova6868]

[quote name='Malvern' timestamp='1434960012' post='11807658']
[quote name='Malvern' timestamp='1434923286' post='11802360']
You will get what you get when you ask Player to give one of his 10,000 opinions or stick a mic in the face of some guy who has just come off the course. Would be nice to hear a considered opinion from the Players Aassociation or some of the games better thinkers like Geoff Ogilvy a week or so after the event.
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Quoting my own post however thought the Geoff Ogilvy interview was good.
http://www.usopen.com/en_US/news/latest.html

Need to hit "load more" and scroll down.
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Ogilvy is able to acknowledge the issues while still seeing the larger picture of what the USGA is trying to accomplish. He even acknowledges that a great player will emerge on this course. Class act.

Billy H. Comes across as short-sighted. The bigger picture goes completely over his head. He can only see the putts that HE missed, and the scores that HE should have shot. And he can't or won't control his emotions.

[bladehunter]

[quote name='AZGolfer1969' timestamp='1434944007' post='11806432']
[quote name='bladehunter' timestamp='1434922889' post='11802290']
You guys are special. Fox knew damn well what they would get with that interview. He is pissed easy to see. Now guys in the booth running the buss over him. The real clowns are the interviewer and the announcers. All the players should I refuse the rest of the interviews to protest that type ambush tactic
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First. Awesome grammar. Second. Are the players required to go to these interviews? He wanted to go talk about his inability to win a major or even compete in one.
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nice catch.... that's a combination of autocorrect and internet short hand in the heat of the moment..

Are the players required to go..No. I do not think so. But the public and media certainly will crucify you if you do not attend .. Just see the dustin Johnson thread if you need reference. Even though he actually did give a post round interview .

[bullie76]

[quote name='denvergolf' timestamp='1434947478' post='11807022']
[quote name='lchang' timestamp='1434925015' post='11802594']
I listened to the interview and thought it was fine. Short, honest and nothing too over-the-top at all.

Antics on the course were more noteworthy than his interview IMO.
[/quote]I'm not up in arms about it, but I absolutely agree with you re: his theatrics on the course. If he thought he was making a point, he unfortunately diluted it.
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Agree. I saw nothing wrong with his interview. Calm and didn't act ugly at all. Saying he lost respect for the USGA was his strongest statement, but even that is in a calm tone. His actions on the course was a little over the top, but my head didn't explode watching him. Funny how some people complain about the whiners, so does that make them whiners too?

[Jbird33]

[quote name='tobaccoroad' timestamp='1434973586' post='11808054']
Funny thing is, I think he held back...
If he really opened up, they wouldn't have been able to show the interview at all. Dude was pissed.
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I thought the same thing! Can't blame the guy, after seeing early pics of Chamber's Bay, I couldn't wait to see this tournament. The USGA needs to stick to being a governing body, and leave the course setup to
somebody who knows better.

[bladehunter]

[quote name='Jbird33' timestamp='1434975960' post='11808222']
[quote name='tobaccoroad' timestamp='1434973586' post='11808054']
Funny thing is, I think he held back...
If he really opened up, they wouldn't have been able to show the interview at all. Dude was pissed.
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I thought the same thing!
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oh yea..he held back.. he was burn this f***** to the ground mad when he came off 18.... lol Like Richard Pryor once said " my woman is always on me to control my temper....what she doesn't know is I do control it...I want to stab every M-fer in the room sometimes...but I keep my my knife in my pocket...thats some real control right there"!

[wdm50]

That little interview after there round seemed a little cheesey for the U S Open, maybe different is the word. Reminded me of the Wheel of Fortune.

[Malvern]

[quote name='nova6868' timestamp='1434975117' post='11808162']
[quote name='Malvern' timestamp='1434960012' post='11807658']
[quote name='Malvern' timestamp='1434923286' post='11802360']
You will get what you get when you ask Player to give one of his 10,000 opinions or stick a mic in the face of some guy who has just come off the course. Would be nice to hear a considered opinion from the Players Aassociation or some of the games better thinkers like Geoff Ogilvy a week or so after the event.
[/quote]

Quoting my own post however thought the Geoff Ogilvy interview was good.
http://www.usopen.com/en_US/news/latest.html

Need to hit "load more" and scroll down.
[/quote]

Ogilvy is able to acknowledge the issues while still seeing the larger picture of what the USGA is trying to accomplish. He even acknowledges that a great player will emerge on this course. Class act.

Billy H. Comes across as short-sighted. The bigger picture goes completely over his head. He can only see the putts that HE missed, and the scores that HE should have shot. And he can't or won't control his emotions.
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Given the player criticism, would or has it ever happened that the USGA might consult a select group of players ahead of the tournament. Surely they have some idea of the punters who can conceive of things greater than their own involvement.

Probably means Bubba and Sergio don't get a start.

Would this have been an even better tournament if Mike Davis had briefed a small group on the issues ahead of time or do the USGA just enjoy the drama.

[warfelg21]

[quote name='Malvern' timestamp='1434976346' post='11808274']
[quote name='nova6868' timestamp='1434975117' post='11808162']
[quote name='Malvern' timestamp='1434960012' post='11807658']
[quote name='Malvern' timestamp='1434923286' post='11802360']
You will get what you get when you ask Player to give one of his 10,000 opinions or stick a mic in the face of some guy who has just come off the course. Would be nice to hear a considered opinion from the Players Aassociation or some of the games better thinkers like Geoff Ogilvy a week or so after the event.
[/quote]

Quoting my own post however thought the Geoff Ogilvy interview was good.
[url="http://www.usopen.com/en_US/news/latest.html"]http://www.usopen.co...ews/latest.html[/url]

Need to hit "load more" and scroll down.
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Ogilvy is able to acknowledge the issues while still seeing the larger picture of what the USGA is trying to accomplish. He even acknowledges that a great player will emerge on this course. Class act.

Billy H. Comes across as short-sighted. The bigger picture goes completely over his head. He can only see the putts that HE missed, and the scores that HE should have shot. And he can't or won't control his emotions.
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Given the player criticism, would or has it ever happened that the USGA might consult a select group of players ahead of the tournament. Surely they have some idea of the punters who can conceive of things greater than their own involvement.

Probably means Bubba and Sergio don't get a start.

Would this have been an even better tournament if Mike Davis had briefed a small group on the issues ahead of time or do the USGA just enjoy the drama.
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I don't think they need to consult someone on tour over setup. Club Pro's and the Supers? Yea those guys they should consult because they are there everyday and know the course better than anyone.

[Warrick]

He is a child, has no control over his emotions. Did you see the anger after the 3 putt on 12? I thought he was going to massacre the hole with his putter.


That is the type of stuff you see on a muni on a Saturday afternoon.

Embarrasing.

[ChrisNH]

[quote name='Frankensteins Monster' timestamp='1434924983' post='11802590']
He said the USGA took out one of the skills of the game, putting, with their disastrous greens and I completely agree.
[/quote] You're simply wrong thinking that putting on poor greens requires no skill. Noticing and adapting to adverse condition requires a lot of skill.

[golfinray]

I have buddies who want to play nothing but nice courses.

I grew up on the munis - one with literally dirt greens.

If friends call me up and want to go play I don't care where.

I just like to play golf.

If it happens to be a goat ranch where some buddies are playing, what the heck. Again, I just want to play.

As long as everyone played the same course no one has any edge over anyone else.

[bigdaddyj]

I have no problem with what he said or how he said it. It's much better than hearing over and over that so and so player complained off the record. If the USGA did the best they could with what they had to work with, it should never have hosted the U.S. Open. There must have been some reason we don't know about as to why they fast tracked this venue. Bad greens, difficult to follow the ball on TV, not spectator friendly and horrible broadcast team. Compelling golf but for the wrong reasons. Yes everyone's putting on the same greens, but on good greens when players miss the same putts it's because it's hard to read. Not because it wobbles around or as one putt I saw bounced 3 inches up in the air. I'd hate to pay the $275 to $300 to play there with those greens.

[bscinstnct]

[color=#292929]"I just want to express I’m sorry for the actions on the sixth green yesterday. I did not hit the green with my putter. It is still not acceptable behavior to do that," Horschel said in an e-mail to the [/color][i]Morning Drive[/i][color=#292929] host sometime before 7 a.m. ET. "It’s not the behavior I wish to show the millions of viewers and fans and it’s not the role model I wish to be to so many young golfers in the world today. It is unacceptable and I promise to do better."[/color]

http://www.sbnation.com/golf/2015/6/22/8822907/billy-horschel-apologizes-unacceptable-behavior-6th-green-chambers-bay-u-s-open-2015

[heavy_hitter]

[quote name='lawsonman' timestamp='1434923987' post='11802446']
I don't think he made himself look stupid at all. Billy is always going to say what's on his mind and if somebody doesn't like it, tough sh!t. I wish everybody would do it. Makes me want to puke with all the politically correct crap that comes out of most interviews.
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I agree 100% with this statement. I am glad he told the truth. If people can't handle it, then too bad for them. I don't want to hear any sugar coated, politically correct, BS. Thank you Billy.

[ChrisNH]

[quote name='bscinstnct' timestamp='1434981854' post='11808974']
[color=#292929]"I just want to express I’m sorry for the actions on the sixth green yesterday. I did not hit the green with my putter. It is still not acceptable behavior to do that," Horschel said in an e-mail to the [/color][i]Morning Drive[/i][color=#292929] host sometime before 7 a.m. ET. "It’s not the behavior I wish to show the millions of viewers and fans and it’s not the role model I wish to be to so many young golfers in the world today. It is unacceptable and I promise to do better."[/color]

[url="http://www.sbnation.com/golf/2015/6/22/8822907/billy-horschel-apologizes-unacceptable-behavior-6th-green-chambers-bay-u-s-open-2015"]http://www.sbnation....y-u-s-open-2015[/url]
[/quote] It's good to know that Billy Horschel himself disagrees with everyone here who liked the way he conducted himself initially.

[sigmatt]

[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434924260' post='11802490']
he can say what he wants, but to think he can say it without consequence, is naive. right or wrong, he may be apologizing for those comments later.
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Who is going to apologize to, himself? Golfers are independent contractors.

[Luke7]

Are you serious? I lost respect for the USGA this week and I wasn't even playing. I lost respect because golf is a game of honesty and integrity, and Mike Davis and the USGA continually lied about how the greens were okay up until the end of the tournament. They kept on covering it up and sugar coating it over and over rather than just admitting that the greens were terrible. That's why Billy was mad. Everybody but the USGA was admitting the greens rolled as smooth as a railroad track.

I have no idea how you can say he's a dbag because he said what everyone was thinking.

[cinnepa]

[quote name='FadeOnly' timestamp='1434922240' post='11802194']
Typical Gator.
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Just like DImarco.

[quote name='Luke7' timestamp='1434984140' post='11809328']
Are you serious? I lost respect for the USGA this week and I wasn't even playing. I lost respect because golf is a game of honesty and integrity, and Mike Davis and the USGA continually lied about how the greens were okay up until the end of the tournament. They kept on covering it up and sugar coating it over and over rather than just admitting that the greens were terrible. That's why Billy was mad. Everybody but the USGA was admitting the greens rolled as smooth as a railroad track.

I have no idea how you can say he's a dbag because he said what everyone was thinking.
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[DavePelz4]

I've never walked off a course upset...since my last round on Saturday.

[Hawkeye03]

[quote name='sigmatt' timestamp='1434982498' post='11809076']
[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434924260' post='11802490']
he can say what he wants, but to think he can say it without consequence, is naive. right or wrong, he may be apologizing for those comments later.
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Who is going to apologize to, himself? Golfers are independent contractors.
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Possibly his sponsors.

[hammy83]

he can say what he wants... He's batman

[fowlerscousin]

This is the worst behavior i have ever seen by a pro athlete. He shoots 3 under on sunday at the US open, which is like a gift from the usga, and he thinks he should of shot 63. What a piece of s***

[farmer]

BH was over the top during the round, but I've seen far worse. More interesting to me is that I did not hear one player interviewed who bragged on the layout or the course. Even Spieth punted the Joe Buck course question into how great the fans were territory. I would have been interested to hear what the players had to say in the locker room.

[widow-maker]

Whether Billy was right in the way he said it, or whether he was wrong... the greens were in awful condition for it being the National Championship of the United States. And these clowns like Mike Davis standing there and saying that the greens weren't all that bad... everybody could see that they were that bad. The players don't necessarily want to make excuses, but they also don't want some dimwit telling the American public that the greens weren't a problem when they obviously were.

The guys who were holing putts were the guys who were behind and could afford to be aggressive. If you're leading the tournament, you can't putt that way. But, it's inconceivable that a pro should have to take into consideration the pace, the line, the wind... and then have to consider which way the poa is going to push the putt, or whether he's going to get a sideways bounce and try to factor that in. You can't expect anybody to take that into consideration when trying to make a putt. You should be able to pick a line and expect the ball to reasonably track. If you miss because you picked the wrong line, read the wrong break, hit it the wrong speed... well, that's on you. But, when you hit the right putt and it gets pushed off line because they're growing two different grasses that aren't compatible... I'll side with the players that that's just not right for a tournament of this magnitude.

[PZero]

[quote name='Luke7' timestamp='1434984140' post='11809328']
Are you serious? I lost respect for the USGA this week and I wasn't even playing. I lost respect because golf is a game of honesty and integrity, and Mike Davis and the USGA continually lied about how the greens were okay up until the end of the tournament. They kept on covering it up and sugar coating it over and over rather than just admitting that the greens were terrible. That's why Billy was mad. Everybody but the USGA was admitting the greens rolled as smooth as a railroad track.

I have no idea how you can say he's a dbag because he said what everyone was thinking.
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Very well put, especially the last line.

[buckeyefl]

[quote name='ChrisNH' timestamp='1434978995' post='11808556']
[quote name='Frankensteins Monster' timestamp='1434924983' post='11802590']
He said the USGA took out one of the skills of the game, putting, with their disastrous greens and I completely agree.
[/quote] You're simply wrong thinking that putting on poor greens requires no skill. Noticing and adapting to adverse condition requires a lot of skill.
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You are high. You do not adjust to greens that inconsistent and to suggest noticing is the key is ludicrous. You are suggesting the best players in the world don't gave that skill because almost to a man they were saying the exact same thing. Of course maybe you know more than they do.

[buckeyefl]

[quote name='Luke7' timestamp='1434984140' post='11809328']
Are you serious? I lost respect for the USGA this week and I wasn't even playing. I lost respect because golf is a game of honesty and integrity, and Mike Davis and the USGA continually lied about how the greens were okay up until the end of the tournament. They kept on covering it up and sugar coating it over and over rather than just admitting that the greens were terrible. That's why Billy was mad. Everybody but the USGA was admitting the greens rolled as smooth as a railroad track.

I have no idea how you can say he's a dbag because he said what everyone was thinking.
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Eve worse after all of the sugar coating he tells Tim R. that the definitely need to address the issues with the greens. Unacceptable that they play this off as if it snuck up on them. Eight years!

[KrazyTrain18]

This week really made me dislike him as a player, regardless of what you think of the course, it's childish to whine about it in the media especially when your nowhere near in contention and to blame the course for that is pathetic. Also his on course antics especially on Sunday made me cringe.

[knock it close]

BillyHO is gonna be BillyHO, he's gonna be fiery that's just who he is, did he go too far? Yea maybe but I think he knows that too and he apologized on twitter.

I mean really there's no excuse for the USGA to have the greens the way they were, like others have said they've known for 8 years. Fescue is tough there with the creeping poa, obviously they realized that, why not rip em all up and just go with poa? Like Oakmont is poa and there greens are fairly decent...

[Frankensteins Monster]

[quote name='ChrisNH' timestamp='1434978995' post='11808556']
[quote name='Frankensteins Monster' timestamp='1434924983' post='11802590']
He said the USGA took out one of the skills of the game, putting, with their disastrous greens and I completely agree.
[/quote] You're simply wrong thinking that putting on poor greens requires no skill. Noticing and adapting to adverse condition requires a lot of skill.
[/quote]

LoL. nO.