Titleist high end irons/driver with color pictures.

[kiddoc]

None of the technology they're claiming is new to the industry. #Titleist-ier

 

No it's not. If people don't believe this is a direct response to the success that PXG is having then I got some swamp land for sale with your name all over it. Titleist was the high end brand. PXG is now aggressively taking that from them. Sorry but it's not some random coincidence that this line all of a sudden comes out during a time when PXG is selling $3000 sets of irons like hotcakes. Titleist had no choice but to come out with a competing high end line to keep their position in the market place.

 

This is not a bad thing it just is what it is.

. Are pxg really selling like hotcakes? I still have not seen a set in person

 

I saw a complete PXG bag at my son's Ping Junior Inter-club match yesterday.

The set was cut down for this Junior's fitting too...makes them super custom!

[bladehunter]

Another thought. Does anyone truly think that Titleist just " whipped these up" in the last couple months to respond to anyone ? These are a fresh design for sure. No way that process was cheap or fast. Competing yes, but as a must do response nope. If anything these were meant to be jdm and are being released in the us to take some of the new market pxg has created. Pxg isn't taking anyone's market share. They have just created a niche market all their own. Titleist may be letting these go in our market to steal some of the pxg sales. If anyone thought Americans would pay crazy money for an iron set in today's "new every month market ", Titleist would have been releasing the jdm lines here all along. They have always produced these high priced irons. Just haven't sold them here in several years.

[EaglesGolf99]

Meh.

[sailfishchris]

I can't wait to see a set of these on the BST with the caption "They couldn't knock my Ping Eye2's out of the bag"!

[bbPhoenixGolf]

Smells like marketing bait..."not in stores...no tour pros can have them..." No one that shells out over 3 times over the "standard" line is going to want to look stupid and post "constructive" reviews on how it's not worth it. Titlest marketing group is trying to sound like PXG and Tesla motors in trying to claim they are delivering bleeding edge technology, but the product requirs a premium cost point and they make no guarantees on delivering their performance promises.

[whr]

Meh indeed. For some reason, it reminds me of the release of this overpriced garage in 2003.

[MattyO1984]

It's an interesting idea for Titleist. I can't quite get my head around why they are needed. I mean 1500 drivers and 1000 irons isn't going to earn much that much for them.

 

I can see why they are not putting them in the hands of the tour staff as well - they will want everyone to think that the tour staff are using the mass market product but if I was on the tour staff and I am being told that Titleist is making a driver that gives me an extra 6 over my current gamer then I am asking, why can't I have one of these?

 

Strange times for Titleist but there is no doubt that these bad boys will sell out.

 

Meh indeed. For some reason, it reminds me of the release of this overpriced garage in 2003.

 

Ouch! That was a stinker of a club. Still feel sorry for my friend who bought one.

[MMB1500]

If this is the best their designers can do when given free reign, then the future for Titleist clubs is bleak.

[hoganasmith]

If this is the best their designers can do when given free reign, then the future for Titleist clubs is bleak.

 

How did you hit them? Looking for a review from someone that has obviously played with them a little.

[cvhookem63]

Including link to thread about this started earlier in the month http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1313896-titleist-goes-pxg-with-a-1000-driver/

[jeepman]

Just to clarify, everyone is knocking Titleist for producing high-end clubs on a forum where we all discuss and purchase Tour Issue sticks for well above their retail price and drool continuously over the new PXG gear. At least with these, you get to customize exactly what you want in a new club.

 

And to echo the previous sentiments, this has been done for years by Titleist and TaylorMade. MOTO and The Vault are by no means entry level price points but they aren't designed for entry level golfers.....for a reason. I'd rather spend $999 on the C16 driver than $750 on the Limited Edition TaylorMade bag. At least one of them can help your game.

 

At the end of the day, if you don't like them then don't buy them.

[whr]

It's an interesting idea for Titleist. I can't quite get my head around why they are needed. I mean 1500 drivers and 1000 irons isn't going to earn much that much for them.

 

I can see why they are not putting them in the hands of the tour staff as well - they will want everyone to think that the tour staff are using the mass market product but if I was on the tour staff and I am being told that Titleist is making a driver that gives me an extra 6 over my current gamer then I am asking, why can't I have one of these?

 

Strange times for Titleist but there is no doubt that these bad boys will sell out.

 

Meh indeed. For some reason, it reminds me of the release of this overpriced garage in 2003.

 

Ouch! That was a stinker of a club. Still feel sorry for my friend who bought one.

 

I did too! I can forgive Callaway, but I'll never forget......

[knock it close]

I think I said this in the other thread but this is pretty much what Bauer Hockey did with their OD1N line during the last Olympics, only real difference is Titleist is releasing a handful of them.

[CallawayLefty]

Feel bad for the guys who buy it and figure out somewhere between 1 swing and 1 month later that it's still just a golf club like all the rest of them. It's amazing what control marketing has over the golf community (myself included). If these were really that much better than any other club, wouldn't they produce 1,000,000 drivers and sell them for $500 rather than produce 1,500 of them and sell them for $1,000? It just makes no sense, other than it's a hyped up pre-release of a forthcoming line or the same tech disguised in a different package and marketed as "super duper limited." Remember when Rogue 125 MSI cost $1,000? Remember how Scotty Cameron puts a circle T stamp on an off the rack putter and it automatically sells for $2,500 instead of $350 (not talking about circle T more customized models, which sell for greatly in excess of $2,500).

 

You're buying a label. The club is the same damn thing as the 710 AP2s you've been playing for the last 8 years. I'm guilty of it too, but let's call it what it is.

[Bob57]

I don't think I've ever read that titleist makes money manufacturing clubs. On a good year they may break even. Their technology is always trailing others if not behind. Since the old 975 I don't think they have ever had what was considered the top performing driver. Kind of middle of the pack with functional technology that doesn't hinder their pros. Their money comes from balls, not even close. Just another attempt at semi luxury offering but certainly nothing as wild as the Japanese manufacturer that offers gold inlay cavity backs for $25,000 a set.. So far the MOTO hasn't been a giant success with very few D4 and full set TMBs being sold. Probably the biggest volume was the fairway wood..

[Seaze21]

Seem more like collectors items than gamers. Priced that way as well. They may perform well, but if I were to cough up $1000 for a driver I'm not sure I would want to risk hitting it. Especially if it is a limited, serialized release. Same goes with the irons. $300+ a piece irons aren't something I would want to scratch.

[rgk5]

I can't wait to see a set of these on the BST with the caption "They couldn't knock my Ping Eye2's out of the bag"!

 

Or Armour 845s. :taunt:

[CallawayLefty]

I can't wait to see a set of these on the BST with the caption "They couldn't knock my Ping Eye2's out of the bag"!

 

Or Armour 845s. :taunt:

 

Or the one trying to sell the driver for $950 after "just one range session" because it "couldn't kick my gamer out of the bag," and then saying that "unreasonable offers WILL NOT be replied to" and then successive posts over the next 8 days going:

 

$900

$850

$800

$750

Come on guys, last drop or I'm just going to put it in my backup bag

$700

$650

Will accept trades for M2 with exotic shafts

$600

SOLD - pending paypal

Back on the market after buyer flaked - $595 shipped

Taking it down to put it on ebay

[Dscvrr St Louis]

If it comes with a sizeable 'Real deal' selection of shafts for the the driver and the irons, then maybe worth it. But if it is the normal Titleist stock shafts...no way.

[Bob57]

Sounds like the fitting cost is extra. But the clubs can be purchased without a fitting. The difference is you will only gain 6 yards with the driver, if you have it properly fit you will gain 10 yards... Sounds like they have it all figured out to the yard..

[blav28]

So many questions... Their claims of creating more ballspeed in the driver are interesting. Wouldn't they already be at max COR with their current lines? And if they do go farther, why wouldn't pros want that?

[J13]

So many questions... Their claims of creating more ballspeed in the driver are interesting. Wouldn't they already be at max COR with their current lines? And if they do go farther, why wouldn't pros want that?

 

Exactly.

[tsecor]

I don't think I've ever read that titleist makes money manufacturing clubs. On a good year they may break even. Their technology is always trailing others if not behind. Since the old 975 I don't think they have ever had what was considered the top performing driver. Kind of middle of the pack with functional technology that doesn't hinder their pros. Their money comes from balls, not even close. Just another attempt at semi luxury offering but certainly nothing as wild as the Japanese manufacturer that offers gold inlay cavity backs for $25,000 a set.. So far the MOTO hasn't been a giant success with very few D4 and full set TMBs being sold. Probably the biggest volume was the fairway wood..

 

Do you have any data on titleist club sales? Id be very interested in that

 

how does their technology trail others with the AP2 line?

 

are you a hater or just shooting facts? Id like to see the facts on this one

[Illest]

I don't think I've ever read that titleist makes money manufacturing clubs. On a good year they may break even. Their technology is always trailing others if not behind. Since the old 975 I don't think they have ever had what was considered the top performing driver. Kind of middle of the pack with functional technology that doesn't hinder their pros. Their money comes from balls, not even close. Just another attempt at semi luxury offering but certainly nothing as wild as the Japanese manufacturer that offers gold inlay cavity backs for $25,000 a set.. So far the MOTO hasn't been a giant success with very few D4 and full set TMBs being sold. Probably the biggest volume was the fairway wood..

 

Do you have any data on titleist club sales? Id be very interested in that

 

how does their technology trail others with the AP2 line?

 

are you a hater or just shooting facts? Id like to see the facts on this one

 

Good luck getting actual statistics from someone who is solely posting because they have an asinine hatred against an equipment brand

[moonshine]

I don't think I've ever read that titleist makes money manufacturing clubs. On a good year they may break even. Their technology is always trailing others if not behind. Since the old 975 I don't think they have ever had what was considered the top performing driver. Kind of middle of the pack with functional technology that doesn't hinder their pros. Their money comes from balls, not even close. Just another attempt at semi luxury offering but certainly nothing as wild as the Japanese manufacturer that offers gold inlay cavity backs for $25,000 a set.. So far the MOTO hasn't been a giant success with very few D4 and full set TMBs being sold. Probably the biggest volume was the fairway wood..

I get your point, and yet have a hard time believing there is no profit built into $150-$200 wedges. I personally don't buy ProV balls but love the performance. Enough out there are willing to pay near $50 per dozen...I am not. However if enough of us would stop paying that price then it would come down. It seems the saving grace is buy 3 get one promo they use every year. Titleist also gives thousands of balls away each year in order to remain top dog. I was told buy salesman the chrome soft was far superior to sr3, and yet old ball won the Masters.

[Bob57]

I don't think I've ever read that titleist makes money manufacturing clubs. On a good year they may break even. Their technology is always trailing others if not behind. Since the old 975 I don't think they have ever had what was considered the top performing driver. Kind of middle of the pack with functional technology that doesn't hinder their pros. Their money comes from balls, not even close. Just another attempt at semi luxury offering but certainly nothing as wild as the Japanese manufacturer that offers gold inlay cavity backs for $25,000 a set.. So far the MOTO hasn't been a giant success with very few D4 and full set TMBs being sold. Probably the biggest volume was the fairway wood..

 

Do you have any data on titleist club sales? Id be very interested in that

 

how does their technology trail others with the AP2 line?

 

are you a hater or just shooting facts? Id like to see the facts on this one

 

Good luck getting actual statistics from someone who is solely posting because they have an asinine hatred against an equipment brand

 

Actually your post is the only thing that is a**inine in this thread. The data on the D4 MOTO comes directly from two reps. in different parts of the country.

 

You are right in your knowledgeable guess that I hate the brand.

My bag as of yesterday.

Titleist 915 D4 driver

Titleist 915 3 & 5 wood

Titleist 716 T-MB 3 iron

Titleist 716 MB irons

Titleist S6 Wedges

Titleist Cameron GSS Newport 2

Callaway Chrome soft ball

 

Boy what a genanus you are in your conclusions...

 

Now if you want to talk about dislike for an overhyped brand that would definitely be PXG

[tsecor]

titleist had over $1 illion in revenue years ago, so I can only imagine what they are worth today

[SwingBlues]

Theres always a market for this...Homma, PXG...someone is gonna cough it up and most likely, they are mid cappers who can barely hit the ball but wanna LOOK GOOD doing the air balls.

 

I'll stick with my Ping G, M1, or M2 - drivers that are realistic long without the extravagant price.

 

next...

[CallawayLefty]

I don't think I've ever read that titleist makes money manufacturing clubs. On a good year they may break even. Their technology is always trailing others if not behind. Since the old 975 I don't think they have ever had what was considered the top performing driver. Kind of middle of the pack with functional technology that doesn't hinder their pros. Their money comes from balls, not even close. Just another attempt at semi luxury offering but certainly nothing as wild as the Japanese manufacturer that offers gold inlay cavity backs for $25,000 a set.. So far the MOTO hasn't been a giant success with very few D4 and full set TMBs being sold. Probably the biggest volume was the fairway wood..

 

I actually laughed when I read this. You think Titleist doesn't make money selling golf clubs? Yeah, I'm sure it's all just an elaborate marketing scheme/loss leader to make sure they sell more ProV1s. Hilarious. I would say there's probably a 500% profit margin - if not more - built into every club they sell. This driver that they're going to sell you for $1,000 probably cost them less than $100 to design, market, and manufacture, including whatever high end shaft they stick in there. The even funnier thing is that it probably will cost them no more than the driver they'll sell you for $400, they just get an extra $600 from people who believe things like "Titleist doesn't even make any money selling golf clubs." I wonder if Santa Claus hand delivers every driver. Or maybe it's the Easter Bunny.

[2zlinks]

I don't think I've ever read that titleist makes money manufacturing clubs. On a good year they may break even. Their technology is always trailing others if not behind. Since the old 975 I don't think they have ever had what was considered the top performing driver. Kind of middle of the pack with functional technology that doesn't hinder their pros. Their money comes from balls, not even close. Just another attempt at semi luxury offering but certainly nothing as wild as the Japanese manufacturer that offers gold inlay cavity backs for $25,000 a set.. So far the MOTO hasn't been a giant success with very few D4 and full set TMBs being sold. Probably the biggest volume was the fairway wood..

 

Very few T-MB full sets ordered? Place an order for one and when you get the lead time you'll find out that isn't the case. Titlesist has oversold their forecast which is why the long lead times. My guess is they thought it would replace the 712U line in long irons and didn't foresee the sales coming for complete sets.