For those that have applied the GG pivot

[bph7]

I hear GG raised his rate by another $100. Wowza!!!!

 

I dunno what his rate is now, but if he can maintain a full book at a higher rate, good for him.

[MMB1500]

I hear GG raised his rate by another $100. Wowza!!!!

 

I dunno what his rate is now, but if he can maintain a full book at a higher rate, good for him.

 

For sure. Supply and demand. He's got to be doing very well for himself.

[nevets88]

I'm guessing a lot more people here can manage his online rate compared to in person rate. There's another option available. I did one with him and thought it was worth it.

[MK7Golf21]

alot of times instructors keep the old rate for existing student's and only raise it for new student's. I'm guessing his schedule is full of student's who have been seeing him for awhile

[PepsiDuck]

alot of times instructors keep the old rate for existing student's and only raise it for new student's. I'm guessing his schedule is full of student's who have been seeing him for awhile

 

I imagine it's no different from private universities who charge obscene tuition to pay for free rides for the most competitive applicants. Bump up the rack rate to subsidize his most promising players and loyal regulars.

[Dave D]

alot of times instructors keep the old rate for existing student's and only raise it for new student's. I'm guessing his schedule is full of student's who have been seeing him for awhile

 

I imagine it's no different from private universities who charge obscene tuition to pay for free rides for the most competitive applicants. Bump up the rack rate to subsidize his most promising players and loyal regulars.

help pay for all the travel following the Kangster on tour and get more exposure?

[PreppySlapCut]

Between his YouTube/Instagram channels, subscription website, online lessons, and in person lessons he's doing just fine. Raising his prices for new students is a simple function of supply and demand.

[bhard315]

Anyone else been exploring the Gankas pivot? I've been watching a lot of videos of Sam Snead because that is a source of his teaching. Always watched a bunch of his Instagram videos. I've always been someone that kicks my right knee towards the target very early in an attempt to get weight on my left side. This pivot is foreign to me but when executed properly, I've hit some incredibly pure and longer than usual iron shots. It almost feels more like my old baseball swing where I'm staying more centered a little longer and rotating harder without the right knee going internal. Anyways, just want to hear some more thoughts and discussion on this. Dude definitely knows how to communicate to all ages of clients. He knows his stuff and I'm gonna keep working on this.

[RustyShackleford]

So I've started doing the GG Pivot move and I've been reading through this forum for the past 2 days (thank you all for your awesome insight). The question that I have is that during transition, is the feeling that GG promotes: Left Knee around, and Right Knee Out and up?

[jimithng23]

So I've started doing the GG Pivot move and I've been reading through this forum for the past 2 days (thank you all for your awesome insight). The question that I have is that during transition, is the feeling that GG promotes: Left Knee around, and Right Knee Out and up?

 

He wants the left knee to go "down and around" and the right knee stays external/right hip goes into flexion:

[Kuuuch]

Anyone still working on the GG swing concepts?

[RustyShackleford]

Hey Kuch I am. Don't know if you've seen his recent YouTube vid (titled Using Ground Pressure For Speed). Anywho in part 2 he briefly talks about Hogan and how he sort of leans forward before starting the transition. Gonna try this at the range tomorrow. Also gonna do a lot of no throws and freezer drills

[jimithng23]

Anyone still working on the GG swing concepts?

 

Yep. Stumbled on the Secret in the Dirt. After having worked on GGs pivot for so long I feel this was the missing piece for me.

 

Experiencing improved and consistent ballstriking, increased my distance, and driver is much better now. However, the short game and putting are my incredible shortcomings.

 

I think at this point, for me, the bulk of my practice time will be spent 100yds and in and on the practice green.

[Santiago Golf]

Anyone still working on the GG swing concepts?

Me, its interesting. Game is good though still not having a long consistent stretch of good golf its mostly 1.5 weeks on and 1 week off, then back to 1.5 weeks on.

 

Shooting in mid to high 70s but i feel like im about to start shooting in the low 70s and high 60s

 

[Kuuuch]

Good to hear it's still popular. I think their is a lot of gold in what he teaches but there are some pieces like intentionally leaving the arms up I don't respond well too although I don't necessarily have a problem with width so that could be it.

 

My transition keys pretty much consist of legwork, arms working out, and shutting the clubface slightly but honestly once the club shallows it's just a natural response to just rotate.

[RustyShackleford]

Good to hear it's still popular. I think their is a lot of gold in what he teaches but there are some pieces like intentionally leaving the arms up I don't respond well too although I don't necessarily have a problem with width so that could be it.

 

My transition keys pretty much consist of legwork, arms working out, and shutting the clubface slightly but honestly once the club shallows it's just a natural response to just rotate.

 

Have a dumb question: does GG ever discuss talking about where to concentrate on the ball in terms of contact (ie behind the ball, middle, front of the ball)? or your thoughts?

[Kuuuch]

Good to hear it's still popular. I think their is a lot of gold in what he teaches but there are some pieces like intentionally leaving the arms up I don't respond well too although I don't necessarily have a problem with width so that could be it.

 

My transition keys pretty much consist of legwork, arms working out, and shutting the clubface slightly but honestly once the club shallows it's just a natural response to just rotate.

 

Have a dumb question: does GG ever discuss talking about where to concentrate on the ball in terms of contact (ie behind the ball, middle, front of the ball)? or your thoughts?

 

I've never heard him discuss it before

[golfishardveryhard]

I started some lessons with a new instructor this month. I am a 17 handicap with a nice weak grip that was leading to lots of slices without manipulation. The first thing this guy did was strengthen my grip and that lead me to asking if he heard of Gankas and that i was interested in a more closed one piece takeaway but couldn't seem to teach myself. We spent the next hour talking about his teachings and the pro was starting to implement some of his stuff as well in his own game.

 

It was nice finding somebody up here who even knew what I was talking about! Love this thread.

[Krt22]

My instructor

Good to hear it's still popular. I think their is a lot of gold in what he teaches but there are some pieces like intentionally leaving the arms up I don't respond well too although I don't necessarily have a problem with width so that could be it.

 

My transition keys pretty much consist of legwork, arms working out, and shutting the clubface slightly but honestly once the club shallows it's just a natural response to just rotate.

 

If you are a handle puller the arms up feel is an absolute must, so yeah it really depends on your faults.

[Daniel Eason]

Been working on G's stuff for the last few months. I'm only a subscriber to his portal/group not had an online lesson but he'll help through his closed FB group and then others help you.

 

Not sure how long i'll continue on the group because i'm getting to the point where I think i've learnt enough but need to actually get my head down and do it. However it's not big bucks each month so i'll see.

 

Guys got oodles of passion and i'd love to see him one day in person, however unlikely tbh as i'm in the UK.

[MPStrat]

Been a member of his site for over a year and did an online lesson a few months ago. I've never hit the ball better.

[elcgolf]

Can someone explain to me how this motion doesn't lead to the club getting stuck behind you. I've watched the videos, and it would seem that if you're leaving your arms in place and just turning your left knee, which turns your torso, the arms will shallow but also get behind your torso. In all that videos he says that the turn pulls the arms done, but I notice that he's also very subtly pulling the arms down to ensure they stay in line with his risk and don't end up behind him. Can someone help me wrap my head around this discrepancy?

[GungHoGolf]

Can someone explain to me how this motion doesn't lead to the club getting stuck behind you. I've watched the videos, and it would seem that if you're leaving your arms in place and just turning your left knee, which turns your torso, the arms will shallow but also get behind your torso. In all that videos he says that the turn pulls the arms done, but I notice that he's also very subtly pulling the arms down to ensure they stay in line with his risk and don't end up behind him. Can someone help me wrap my head around this discrepancy?

 

This is how I interpret it: if you maintain the triangle of your arms and torso at the top, you can "leave your arms in place" (in relation to your torso) and just turn, and they cannot get behind you. I'm also not sure he's subtly pulling the arms down - it's the transition from left lateral bend at the top to right lateral bend starting in transition through impact that lowers the arms naturally.

[BeTheBall_]

Doing the pivot properly should pull the arms down and in front from which point you can turn through the shot

[ayan]

Can someone explain to me how this motion doesn't lead to the club getting stuck behind you. I've watched the videos, and it would seem that if you're leaving your arms in place and just turning your left knee, which turns your torso, the arms will shallow but also get behind your torso. In all that videos he says that the turn pulls the arms done, but I notice that he's also very subtly pulling the arms down to ensure they stay in line with his risk and don't end up behind him. Can someone help me wrap my head around this discrepancy?

 

I am not a face-to-face GG student, but I am a believer in just about everything he says. One thing to note, however, is that you have to take what he (and many other instructors here on this forum) says literally with respect to the "match ups." I will add, based upon personal experience, that I believe for any more or less "automated" swing, where the club shallows by itself, etc., the hands have to be high at the top of the backswing to allow more time for gravity to do its thing on the downswing, and it is imperative that the wrists be beyond soft. I think oily wrists that act as near perfect hinges are probably good for everyone, but I don't want to discount the fact that some people can and do play really well muscling the club.

 

Back to the match ups, GG has some (a lot) students who get the shaft vertical on the backswing, even across the line, and they don't get stuck. You will notice that he encourages 100% of his student population to have a "huge shoulder turn" and the hands as high as they can get them at the top of the backswing. If you try all of that, with as little tension as you can in your arms, wrists and left shoulder, leaving the arms "up there" at the top of the backswing and just turning in transition, you may find that things work out very well all by themselves. However, if for example, you have a shorter backswing with hands at or below shoulder plane level at the top, and you have a firm grip on the handle, you will miss the ball by a few feet if you simply turn on the downswing as prescribed by GG because the shaft will come over the top. Speaking of making a huge shoulder turn and getting the shaft more vertical at the top of the backswing, it really helps allow the wrists to remain more tension-free because the club will feel pretty light. If you uncoil from there and allow your torso to pull the arms, the hands will move towards the target line and the shaft has got to shallow and it will start falling downward behind you. If your arms are still relaxed at that point, they will also be dropping because of their own weight and because the club is dropping. If you can groove those feels, while continuing to turn without stalling, you will probably experience a new way of striking the ball. The more you leave your arms alone and allow your arms and wrists to be limp, the more you will have to turn your hips and body for the club to strike the ball, and the more delofted the club will be at impact. If you commit to trying those new concepts, I'm fairly certain your body will start making the necessary adjustments for you to strike the ball by finding a good hand path, shoulder plane, etc. At some point I read an old post by Monte where he said something along the lines of "You have to rely on your subconscious to square the clubface at impact." I believe he was right on the money, a lot of things will just happen if we give ourselves a chance for our brains to figure out how to so something.

[Bobalu]

Can someone explain to me how this motion doesn't lead to the club getting stuck behind you. I've watched the videos, and it would seem that if you're leaving your arms in place and just turning your left knee, which turns your torso, the arms will shallow but also get behind your torso. In all that videos he says that the turn pulls the arms done, but I notice that he's also very subtly pulling the arms down to ensure they stay in line with his risk and don't end up behind him. Can someone help me wrap my head around this discrepancy?

 

This prior post with video links may help:

 

http://www.golfwrx.c...0#entry13904308

[BeautifulNice]

GG talks about getting arms behind at about the 2:30 mark here:

 

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[Dbogey]

Good to hear it's still popular. I think their is a lot of gold in what he teaches but there are some pieces like intentionally leaving the arms up I don't respond well too although I don't necessarily have a problem with width so that could be it.

 

My transition keys pretty much consist of legwork, arms working out, and shutting the clubface slightly but honestly once the club shallows it's just a natural response to just rotate.

 

I still work on certain parts....I've been using the superspeed with some freezers and getting my neck out with a little of lead heal off the ground. I tried it for 9 holes the other day and bombed some drives. I also work with an instructor who went to see him so we work on most of the concepts.

[Precis1on]

Arms get stuck generally when you slide forward and leave them behind. Get the arms deep and extend the body vertically in the backswing rather than shift horizontally into the right side. If the spine is able to extend in place in the backswing then you can simply rotate super hard in the downswing without any slide. Then the arms won't get stuck behind you.

[comoco]

Noran from the other day...

 

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