Will Tiger play at Riviera? Tiger Withdraws From Genesis And Honda (merged)

[sappytop]

so he wakes up and at 06:00 writes this after doctors advice... best golfer ever but an absolute goose for going to Dubai when it was obvious to everyone he wasn't right.

 

i'm sure the appearance money to tee it up and shoot the 'dubai' interview was well worth the flight

[wetfairwayshardgreens]

Gotta love the haters. Yeah because watching the frat boys of the PGA tour is way better then seeing Tiger Woods play. I'm sure Tiger appreciates all the words of encouragement.

 

Typical Tiger fanboy...simply whines instead of accepting reality

 

 

 

Not whining Jordan Spieth's done enough of that this week. Again the game of golf needs Tiger Woods back and winning.

 

The game of golf needs him back?

 

How so?

 

Tiger Woods performance over the past 20 years has brought not only major money into the game but youth movement as well. To NOT encourage a come back so Tiger could close out his career battling against the young guns of the game would be pure stupidity.

[wetfairwayshardgreens]

Gotta love the haters. Yeah because watching the frat boys of the PGA tour is way better then seeing Tiger Woods play. I'm sure Tiger appreciates all the words of encouragement.

 

Typical Tiger fanboy...simply whines instead of accepting reality

 

 

 

Not whining Jordan Spieth's done enough of that this week. Again the game of golf needs Tiger Woods back and winning.

 

 

got any autographs for sale?

 

YEAH THERE 20 BUCKS.

[xflex]

The guy is just a circus of public embarrassment at this point. And it's a shame because he's the greatest golfer i have ever seen tee it up.

 

It's been 3+ years since he was competitive on tour. The guy has every talent, resource, doctor, and therapist at his disposal to get healthy and get his game into shape. He hasn't done it. Meanwhile Freddy Couples plays with similar back issues every week. At some point everything is an excuse.

[cdnglf]

The guy is just a circus of public embarrassment at this point. And it's a shame because he's the greatest golfer i have ever seen tee it up.

 

It's been 3+ years since he was competitive on tour. The guy has every talent, resource, doctor, and therapist at his disposal to get healthy and get his game into shape. He hasn't done it. Meanwhile Freddy Couples plays with similar back issues every week. At some point everything is an excuse.

 

Think you might want to double-check that.

[hurricanes7]

fred is playing right now on the golf channel

[tigers9iron]

what was even done to his back? we have no idea. was it a fusion, multiple fusions? we have no idea whats going on with him medically. Does Taylor Made know, did they demand medical records? His health and game are now a complete disaster, i would guess we dont see him until 2018

[bscinstnct]

The guy is just a circus of public embarrassment at this point. And it's a shame because he's the greatest golfer i have ever seen tee it up.

 

It's been 3+ years since he was competitive on tour. The guy has every talent, resource, doctor, and therapist at his disposal to get healthy and get his game into shape. He hasn't done it. Meanwhile Freddy Couples plays with similar back issues every week. At some point everything is an excuse.

 

Couples had had to WD from a number of events in the last few years.

 

It's just people are like,

 

"Awwwww, poor Freddie". And that's fine.

 

TWs expectations are off the charts because he had been superman for so long. Busted knee, win the US Open.

[farmer]

If he cannot play, then he cannot practice. If he cannot practice, he cannot get his game in shape to be competitive. It seems obvious that there is still a mechanical problem with his back. He may have to go the Goosen route, but Goosen is a shadow of his prime.

[tigers9iron]

Or maybe one more attempt to play this summer then after the MC or WD he does a backhanded read between the lines retirement press conference which leaves the door open to future play

[Trap Junior]

There was no back problem at the Hero where he played ''relatively well''. Then he posts 3 crap rounds and suddenly the back hurts again and has to WD?? Seems very coincidental.

 

I think he realises his game is so far off he fears embarassing himself and is trying to buy more time to sort his game out. If he played at Riviera he would have been shot a million.

[tigers9iron]

There was no back problem at the Hero where he played ''relatively well''. Then he posts 3 crap rounds and suddenly the back hurts again and has to WD?? Seems very coincidental.

 

I think he realises his game is so far off he fears embarassing himself and is trying to buy more time to sort his game out. If he played at Riviera he would have been shot a million.

agree but we have no reason to believe his back is ok either. he did look good at hero, flashes of brilliance actually and now this.

[evoviiiyou]

Thats too bad, I hope he can get his health sorted and listens to his health care professionals. I feel like the 65 round in the Bahamas was a bonus looking at it now. Good luck TW!

[CallawayLefty]

Hard to yip chips and drivers from the announcer's booth. I think we all know where this is headed.

[ebrasmus21]

Gotta love the haters. Yeah because watching the frat boys of the PGA tour is way better then seeing Tiger Woods play. I'm sure Tiger appreciates all the words of encouragement.

 

I'm not a hater of Tiger. I only watch golf if he's playing. I don't care about McIlroy or Day etc.. They are boring. But it's annoying and I dont buy the excuses Tiger rolls out. Its my opinion that Tiger cant grind. Sure he can grind through a bad day if he is near the lead but he cant grind if he is struggling to make cuts. He just doesnt want to be there and doesnt try. He said he was pain free. He's been playing golf since last march or so when he tweeted a video and he has been practising for almost a year. He never disclosed any back issues and comes out telling everyone he is ready and then plays crap and what do you know he pulls out. How many times has he done this? If its his not his knee its his ankle, if its not his ankle its his back...

 

I have never seen a player withdraw as much as he has. Seems to me like the pain just shows up when he is playing bad. He doesnt want to the world to know he has lost it totally is my opinion and blames injuries.

 

If you want peoepl to give you a break be honest. If you are in pain say ''yeah I will tee it up this week but my back had been bad. I will see how it goes.'' . Dont say ''my back feels good and I'm in no pain then shoot 77 and say oh I cant play now. And then pull out of a tournament in 2 weeks time!''

 

I call bullxxxx. And as I say I am a Tiger fan but sick of his constant withdrawals. I have never seen him withdraw when he is -3 after 9 holes etc..

 

You're very much a Tiger hater.

 

He's clearly hurt. All over social media from people in Dubai at the tournament there were videos of Tiger on Wednesday and he could barely walk off the putting green. The most telling video came from Quiros' caddy of Tiger on Wednesday. He looked like a complete mess and was simply walking. A handful of these videos have since come out of Tiger before his Thursday round.

 

His back is made of tissue paper right now. He is trying to reclaim glory which I am afraid isn't going to come back. His body his saying no but his mind keeps telling him yes. Then he gets there and it all falls apart.

 

For the sake of Tiger's future health, his family and quality of life, I think it's time he sails off into the sunset.

 

 

Anyone have links to the vids that show tiger struggling around?

[egr2teup]

Looks like I'm gonna have to hitch my wagon to a new favorite player.

 

I'm opening the floor for suggestions ...

 

Yourself. Go tee it up.

 

I couldn't break 80 with a pencil right now. There has to be a better alternative.

[slc247]

Yea...I dont see him in an announcers booth except for the rare guest spot. He makes more money doing almost anything else that he enjoys doing. Id love to see him in there though.

[EBannermanS]

This isn't just "back spasms". That's not a month-long injury. There's something else. I'd kill to see him get it back and contend again, but it isn't happening... He's done for good.

[BTO]

Gotta love the haters. Yeah because watching the frat boys of the PGA tour is way better then seeing Tiger Woods play. I'm sure Tiger appreciates all the words of encouragement.

 

Typical Tiger fanboy...simply whines instead of accepting reality

 

 

 

 

 

Not whining Jordan Spieth's done enough of that this week. Again the game of golf needs Tiger Woods back and winning.

 

 

 

 

got any autographs for sale?

 

YEAH THERE 20 BUCKS.

 

Tiger fans haven't got the corner of the block on being in denial. Y'all should have been on Mike Weirs forum the last 10 yrs. Whew, down right embarrassing. You couldn't say a word against King Mike lest you be trampled and reviled. And this coming from moi who perceived himself to be Weirs biggest fan. But I also had to look in the mirror each day and face reality ie see you on the champions tour....hopefully.

[joey2aces]

announcer jobs aren't for anyone. Save for a few guys, announcer jobs are for journeymen and guys who love to hear themselves talk. Plus, networks don't have the cash that he would demand for that gig.... not to mention we have enough,"When I played...." week in and week out.

[CallawayLefty]

Yea...I dont see him in an announcers booth except for the rare guest spot. He makes more money doing almost anything else that he enjoys doing. Id love to see him in there though.

 

I just want to see him on the golf course. I think if he just allowed it to all be aired in public, played like total crap for a season or two - but just allowed it to happen and owned it - that he would come roaring back. He just never had that part of his life where he played like junk. He was the best at every level until his injury and personal issues in 2008. But he hasn't been able to deal with the slump that's been ongoing since then (other than the one really good season), and he continues to lean on his "injury" as the reason. I think he's just playing like crap, and that's the reason. But he's not going to stop playing like crap until he goes out there, takes his licks, gets beaten by people that weren't qualified to caddy for him 10 years ago, etc. He's in the middle of really dark tunnel. I just fear he's going to give up before he gets to the light at the other end. Then we all lose out.

[jmck]

Yeah, even with a good back he'd shoot a million at Riviera if he's hitting it like he was at Torrey. It'd be easier to give him the benefit of the doubt about the back if him and Stieney weren't so insistent on insisting everything's fine at 4PM when it looks like he can barely get out of a bunker at 11AM. If your back hurts, just say so man. No one holds it against Freddy when he says his back flared up so he has to WD. For someone who very much has the 'it is what it is' mentality I just get zero sense of honesty when he's talking about his back, or any of his other injuries over the years, be it good or bad. And here's the sum total of his latest comeback:

 

MC

WD

WD

WD

 

As far as comebacks go, that's really not too good. Don't know what happened, his swing looked really good at the Hero, but wish he'd be a little more honest about how bad his back is. Like farmer said above, if he's too hurt to play he's too hurt to practice and that means donezo. He's never going to go full Bruce Lietzke on us--he needs to practice to figure out how much of whichever swing guru he has going on on any given day. We're two weeks away from hearing about Ranger Rick tearing it up at Isleworth again. It's groundhog day at this point.

[Yepyukon]

New clubs, new ball, new TV ads, nice long layoff and rehab, lots of TV hype ...........AAAAAAND IT'S GONE

Great South Park reference

[bandrz]

This back and forth is all great guys, but I'm reserving my final judgement until I hear from Notah.

[stinger_gc]

Gotta love the haters. Yeah because watching the frat boys of the PGA tour is way better then seeing Tiger Woods play. I'm sure Tiger appreciates all the words of encouragement.

 

Typical Tiger fanboy...simply whines instead of accepting reality

 

 

 

Not whining Jordan Spieth's done enough of that this week. Again the game of golf needs Tiger Woods back and winning.

 

 

got any autographs for sale?

 

YEAH THERE 20 BUCKS.

I found both the prov 1s he hit in the water on 12, can he sign those?

[tigers9iron]

This back and forth is all great guys, but I'm reserving my final judgement until I hear from Notah.

lol yes but you realize Notah only tells us what Tiger allows him to or their friendship would be long over.

[bscinstnct]

[alexdub]

Reading the start of this thread, you wouldn't ever know if we were actually in 2017—or 2009, or 2011, or 2013, or 2015.....

[hurricanes7]

big teeth on that thing

[Bob57]

Back spasms keeping him out indefinitely? Back spasms are a way of the body saying stop doing that. Muscles strained, torn, nerve impingement, herniated disc...all start with back spasms. Once back is calmed down there doesn't appear any way to prevent it from constantly being a problem. If he hasn't gotten the back strong enough after all this time it isn't going to happen. It appears nobody since Harmon and Haney have been able to give him a swing that doesn't irritate his back. Relax enjoy your kids, money, and play 9 hole games with your buddies, and use a cart. Now from time to time he hints that Harmon and to a lesser extent Haney were the reasons for his knee and later back problems. As Harmon said it wasn't golf that wrecked his body it was his work in the gym. Haney went further saying his addiction to playing navy seal did more harm than any golf swing. Always laugh about the seals comments on his "training". Did mostly the easy stuff and was cheap beyond belief (guess he didn't buy them popsicles).