Hagestad anchoring??

[avgjoe]

didn't see him play/putt, but this guy thinks so.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/golf/a/34978306/stewart-hagestad-cheating-anchoring-putts-masters-golf-low-amateur/#page1

 

is this another case of "writing is easy"? discuss

[Vindog]

I have been waiting for this and am surprised it took this long. I frantically scoured the tournament thread and found nothing NOTHING. ;)

 

if anyone can tell that he's anchoring from those videos, they're lying. I would assume that his fellow competitors would be watching every now and again.

[mjen43]

I think the rule was implemented poorly. As a result, things like this were made possible.

[cardoza]

Probably worth noting that's an Australian sports writer and the ultimate goal with that article is to claim that Australian Curtis Luck should have won low amateur. Not exactly unbiased reporting there.

[rawdog]

Probably worth noting that's an Australian sports writer and the ultimate goal with that article is to claim that Australian Curtis Luck should have won low amateur. Not exactly unbiased reporting there.

 

Yeah, he took some liberties with the title...

 

I wouldn't say the Masters was "rocked" by cheating. Maybe a smaller pool of Australian golf fans were upset, but as Vindog noted, it barely registered a blip on GolfWRX.

[Christosterone]

Btw, did y'all know a guy on the champions tour is also doing this???

I think he is a German guy...it's rarely been discussed so details are scarce on golfrwrx...

 

-Chris

[straightshot7]

I personally think his style is dumb and should have been eliminated by the rule change. However, I'm sure he goes out of his way to avoid anchoring it on his chest. It did look like it was touching his shirt.

[Hawkeye77]

didn't see him play/putt, but this guy thinks so.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/golf/a/34978306/stewart-hagestad-cheating-anchoring-putts-masters-golf-low-amateur/#page1

 

is this another case of "writing is easy"? discuss

 

Didn't see him play but I thought I'd post anyway -

that's a brilliant idea, but sadly not original.

[Oldboy]

Saw him hit one putt and was totally confused. Looked like he was anchoring but I guess not?

[MarkFromTheUK]

It's unusual for the Australian media to take any kind of defeat badly... :russian_roulette:

[bscinstnct]

"If he wasn't cheating with that long putter, I'm not here. That was unbelievable," Allen said."

 

Well, that is pretty straight forward.

 

I think it looks terrible. Fine if it's legal but it's pretty sad looking.

[JaNelson38]

This whole is he/isnt he anchoring argument with the guys that still use the long putter is really getting sad and tired, whether its Langer or now Hagestad.

 

I mean, its ridiculous...the guy has the week of a lifetime as a mid-am - something he'll probably never replicate again as he says he has no interest in playing major tournament golf and will return to his work- and some writer wants to tear him down because he beat the Australian amateur who is now turning professional.

 

These guys say they dont anchor, and they are no doubt reviewed by tournament officials. They say they're OK. No playing partners or other competitors complain. I just dont get it. Let the guys play.

[2putttom]

This whole is he/isnt he anchoring argument with the guys that still use the long putter is really getting sad and tired, whether its Langer or now Hagestad.

 

I mean, its ridiculous...the guy has the week of a lifetime as a mid-am - something he'll probably never replicate again as he says he has no interest in playing major tournament golf and will return to his work- and some writer wants to tear him down because he beat the Australian amateur who is now turning professional.

 

These guys say they dont anchor, and they are no doubt reviewed by tournament officials. They say they're OK. No playing partners or other competitors complain. I just dont get it. Let the guys play.

well ya but ....but .... Laaaannngeeerrr.

[bub72ck]

This whole is he/isnt he anchoring argument with the guys that still use the long putter is really getting sad and tired, whether its Langer or now Hagestad.

 

I mean, its ridiculous...the guy has the week of a lifetime as a mid-am - something he'll probably never replicate again as he says he has no interest in playing major tournament golf and will return to his work- and some writer wants to tear him down because he beat the Australian amateur who is now turning professional.

 

These guys say they dont anchor, and they are no doubt reviewed by tournament officials. They say they're OK. No playing partners or other competitors complain. I just dont get it. Let the guys play.

 

Unfortunately there are is a group of people out there that want to be the one to catch somebody doing something. It's big Brother at it's finest. Before the round had ended yesterday, someone had called in and said Sergio moved his ball in the straw at 13. The committee had already reviewed the footage and determined the ball didn't move. Who knows why this is all of a sudden such an issue. Maybe it's professional gamblers on Draft Kings trying to get more points for their team...

[Outlier]

Of course absolutely cheating just as Langer does. The "rules" of this gentlemen's game are always subject to the vagueriesof popularity and stature. Remember, we watch Kevin Na, and Ben Crane and a bunch of others break the rule on pace of play virtually every shot, certainly every tournament they play,,,,, who get's the first and only stroke penalty in memory? A teenage amateur.

 

I believe (perhaps wishful thinking) that Langer would not be given that gentlemen's free pass to cheat his way to Schwab Cup after Schwab Cup on the regular tour. Tim Clark, Adam Scott, Webb Simpson, Keegan Bradley....none of them would have a tour card without anchoring. Scott is sooo good with the rest of his clubs that he may be the exception.

 

We have a guy at our club who thinks he is Langer, and nobody has had the temerity to call him on it.....well I'll let you know how it goes in about 60 days during the Sr. Club Championship cause I am gonna be THAT guy. Won't be popular, but hell rules are rules.

 

If I see a guy contorting his face and arms on National TV, I am gonna say he did it, no matter how many times he says he didn't and no matter how popular he may be.

 

EDIT- to be clear, I think people calling or emailing in to professional tournaments are tools of the highest order, and I cannot fathom why these agencies answer these calls literally OR figuratively.

[Hawkeye77]

"If he wasn't cheating with that long putter, I'm not here. That was unbelievable," Allen said."

 

Well, that is pretty straight forward.

 

I think it looks terrible. Fine if it's legal but it's pretty sad looking.

 

He's just tall, if it was Brandel you wouldn't notice, but he would have his left heel off the green.

[Vindog]

Of course absolutely cheating just as Langer does. The "rules" of this gentlemen's game are always subject to the vagueriesof popularity and stature. Remember, we watch Kevin Na, and Ben Crane and a bunch of others break the rule on pace of play virtually every shot, certainly every tournament they play,,,,, who get's the first and only stroke penalty in memory? A teenage amateur.

 

 

But...then...wouldn't Hagestad get the penalty....becasue he's an AM, following this thought process through?

[robelinks]

Come on people, the dude is from Wall Street, what do you expect?!?

 

;-)

[Outlier]

Of course absolutely cheating just as Langer does. The "rules" of this gentlemen's game are always subject to the vagueriesof popularity and stature. Remember, we watch Kevin Na, and Ben Crane and a bunch of others break the rule on pace of play virtually every shot, certainly every tournament they play,,,,, who get's the first and only stroke penalty in memory? A teenage amateur.

 

 

But...then...wouldn't Hagestad get the penalty....becasue he's an AM, following this thought process through?

 

Nope, check out his family background...."popularity and stature". I presume he has played that course many, many times.

[BrianMcG]

That family guy one was hilarious.

[Hawkeye77]

Of course absolutely cheating just as Langer does. The "rules" of this gentlemen's game are always subject to the vagueriesof popularity and stature. Remember, we watch Kevin Na, and Ben Crane and a bunch of others break the rule on pace of play virtually every shot, certainly every tournament they play,,,,, who get's the first and only stroke penalty in memory? A teenage amateur.

 

 

But...then...wouldn't Hagestad get the penalty....becasue he's an AM, following this thought process through?

 

Nope, check out his family background...."popularity and stature". I presume he has played that course many, many times.

 

So he's tall and the kid was short, or are you saying it's an Asian thing?

 

I know Langer pays the Champions Tour $250k to anchor per season.

[BrianMcG]

His putting stroke reminds me of when Mickleson went out and bought a bunch of eye 2 wedges.

[Shilgy]

Of course absolutely cheating just as Langer does. The "rules" of this gentlemen's game are always subject to the vagueriesof popularity and stature. Remember, we watch Kevin Na, and Ben Crane and a bunch of others break the rule on pace of play virtually every shot, certainly every tournament they play,,,,, who get's the first and only stroke penalty in memory? A teenage amateur.

 

I believe (perhaps wishful thinking) that Langer would not be given that gentlemen's free pass to cheat his way to Schwab Cup after Schwab Cup on the regular tour. Tim Clark, Adam Scott, Webb Simpson, Keegan Bradley....none of them would have a tour card without anchoring. Scott is sooo good with the rest of his clubs that he may be the exception.

 

We have a guy at our club who thinks he is Langer, and nobody has had the temerity to call him on it.....well I'll let you know how it goes in about 60 days during the Sr. Club Championship cause I am gonna be THAT guy. Won't be popular, but hell rules are rules.

 

If I see a guy contorting his face and arms on National TV, I am gonna say he did it, no matter how many times he says he didn't and no matter how popular he may be.

 

EDIT- to be clear, I think people calling or emailing in to professional tournaments are tools of the highest order, and I cannot fathom why these agencies answer these calls literally OR figuratively.

Clarke is out with an injury. Bradley and Simpson are doing just fine not anchoring and Scott is practically thriving without it. As is Langer. But then you probably already knew that.

[gvogel]

I think the rule was implemented poorly. As a result, things like this were made possible.

 

The USGA should have limited the length of the putter to the same length as the driver - 48". Then we're not having this discussion.

[Hawkeye77]

I think the rule was implemented poorly. As a result, things like this were made possible.

 

The USGA should have limited the length of the putter to the same length as the driver - 48". Then we're not having this discussion.

 

Only short guys can "cheat"? ;-)

[Whatsinthebag]

He probably urinated behind a Magnolia tree too. Let it go people

[Dpavs]

Hard to tell but it does look like he is pressing his left hand against his left pectoral and that the two are moving in unison as he putts. If that is true I believe that is clearly anchoring. Not sure I care though..lol.

 

I completely don't understand the Mickelson comparison as using a rule (or it's temporary exclusions as in his case) to your benefit is not the same as a rule infraction at all.

[Potatohead]

When Scott won The Masters while anchoring I'm sure this guy was all brown-nosing him to the max. Double standard.

[sphna12d]

Well whatever his stroke is, the USGA got a close up look at it and chose to let him use it.

[nbg352]

I think the rule was implemented poorly. As a result, things like this were made possible.

 

The USGA should have limited the length of the putter to the same length as the driver - 48". Then we're not having this discussion.

No club in the bag can exceed 48" in length, including the putter.