Johnny laughs at 63

[youdamantiger]

Only two players in the first 116 US Opens ever reached 10 under par. Tiger in 2000 and Rory in 2011.

Gil Morgan in 1992 @ Pebble Beach was the first player to reach 10 under par in the US Open and got it to 12 under by the 7th hole.

Then the wheels fell off finishing 77-81 in rounds 3 & 4.

 

Only two players in the first 116 US Opens ever reached 10 under par. Tiger in 2000 and Rory in 2011. There are currently five players at 10 under par or better through three rounds. But do tell me again how this course is super difficult.

read the thread. Course was set up based on normal wiscy winds and not being soft. If winds were up and not soft scores would be half of what they are now

That and if is was being played as a par 70.

 

I won't be too hard on myself for forgetting Morgan considering the self-immolation that took place in the ensuing rounds. Point still stands, this course is giving up scores at a record pace.

[dan360]

Johnny Miller says,

Whoever mowed the fescue,

Is my friend for life.

[dlygrisse]

One more reason to dislike Johnny Miller.

no it's not.

[grm24]

Only two players in the first 116 US Opens ever reached 10 under par. Tiger in 2000 and Rory in 2011.

Gil Morgan in 1992 @ Pebble Beach was the first player to reach 10 under par in the US Open and got it to 12 under by the 7th hole.

Then the wheels fell off finishing 77-81 in rounds 3 & 4.

 

Only two players in the first 116 US Opens ever reached 10 under par. Tiger in 2000 and Rory in 2011. There are currently five players at 10 under par or better through three rounds. But do tell me again how this course is super difficult.

read the thread. Course was set up based on normal wiscy winds and not being soft. If winds were up and not soft scores would be half of what they are now

That and if is was being played as a par 70.

 

I won't be too hard on myself for forgetting Morgan considering the self-immolation that took place in the ensuing rounds. Point still stands, this course is giving up scores at a record pace.

If the USGA had set the course up as a par 70 and only 6 under was leading after 3 rounds instead of 12 under how would you view it?

[dlygrisse]

The golfers of today are better athletes. They are in better physical condition. The fields are deeper. The world is much smaller with modern day air travel. It is truly a global game at the highest level. There are more better players that train more and are the fields are much deeper.

 

Loved the old days, but it is a new era. That doesn't diminish Millers accomplishment or Thomas's accomplishment today. Both are remarkable.

Today's golf course was nearly 1,000 yards longer than Oakmont in 1973. Not saying it as hard as Oakmont, but that is worth noting.

wrong. Not worth noting. JM used balata and persimmon. Has fairways 1/2 the width and faster firmer greens with rough around the greens. Try again.

[freelanceterry]

Actually JM didn't use balata for 73 Oakmont....

The golfers of today are better athletes. They are in better physical condition. The fields are deeper. The world is much smaller with modern day air travel. It is truly a global game at the highest level. There are more better players that train more and are the fields are much deeper.

 

Loved the old days, but it is a new era. That doesn't diminish Millers accomplishment or Thomas's accomplishment today. Both are remarkable.

Today's golf course was nearly 1,000 yards longer than Oakmont in 1973. Not saying it as hard as Oakmont, but that is worth noting.

wrong. Not worth noting. JM used balata and persimmon. Has fairways 1/2 the width and faster firmer greens with rough around the greens. Try again.

[youdamantiger]

If the USGA had set the course up as a par 70 and only 6 under was leading after 3 rounds instead of 12 under how would you view it?

 

That's a great question. I'll have to think on that. As far as the course I probably would have a kinder view. But I would still be disappointed in the leaderboard. I do think it would have been more demanding if they used the forward tees on a couple of the par 5s and turned them into par 4s. I think the USGA's first (and perhaps biggest) mistake was seriously misjudging how easily these guys could reach 650 yard par 5s.

[ray9898]

Great round.....but not the round played in 63 when compared to difficulty and the related competitors scores.

[buckeyefl]

If touring pros can't put up good scores in soft, receptive conditions, you've built a bad golf course.

 

Erin Hills will be a different animal if the wind blows tomorrow. But a 63 is a 63 at a major, no matter the course.

 

I'm getting tired of the "it's just another tour event" narrative going around just because it's not a bloodbath. This is a monster of a course, and these guys are playing great. And you have a mix of playing styles at the front.

 

No a certain score is never a certain score as courses, conditions etc change. Not a bloodbath, its a scoring bonanza? Its a freaking typical your event.

[buckeyefl]

The golfers of today are better athletes. They are in better physical condition. The fields are deeper. The world is much smaller with modern day air travel. It is truly a global game at the highest level. There are more better players that train more and are the fields are much deeper.

 

Loved the old days, but it is a new era. That doesn't diminish Millers accomplishment or Thomas's accomplishment today. Both are remarkable.

Today's golf course was nearly 1,000 yards longer than Oakmont in 1973. Not saying it as hard as Oakmont, but that is worth noting.

 

You forgot the equipment.

[Shankieboink]

Well, why talk about Millers 63 when we had Stensons 63 last year, or even Phils.. Great round by JT, but if we are going to compare. Anyone has the score relative to field for those btw? Also, Jim Furyks -59 was awsome, but that wasn't even close to a Major field. Strength of field is everything. Would also be interesting to see what Stenson and Phil had relative to field for whole tournament and compare that to other wins. Must have been close to the top of all time?

 

In the end. Most important thing to remember is that we will never see a 62 in a Major. It was decided by some golf god, long time ago...

[buckeyefl]

Only two players in the first 116 US Opens ever reached 10 under par. Tiger in 2000 and Rory in 2011. There are currently five players at 10 under par or better through three rounds. But do tell me again how this course is super difficult.

read the thread. Course was set up based on normal wiscy winds and not being soft. If winds were up and not soft scores would be half of what they are now

So the USGA has no access to the Weather Channel

[playa]

Johnnys 63 at Oakmont certainly was a greater accomplishment as it was at Oakmont on Sunday, but he came out early and came from way back without the pressure the last groups feel. Not trying to diminish the greatness of his round, just saying he could freewheel it without the pressure of the title being on the line til probably the last few holes when he knew he was doing something special.

[glk]

Johnnys 63 at Oakmont certainly was a greater accomplishment as it was at Oakmont on Sunday, but he came out early and came from way back without the pressure the last groups feel. Not trying to diminish the greatness of his round, just saying he could freewheel it without the pressure of the title being on the line til probably the last few holes when he knew he was doing something special.

Johnny was tied for 13th going into the final round. 6 back. Like Hideki, and a bunch of others at -6 today.

 

Only 3 other players broke par that day. Quite different than yesterday when the field shot even par.

[Night train]

Different time, different equipment, different courses...........both fabulous rounds, as is any 63 shot in a major

 

Just be happy you got to see it.

Well done Justin Thomas!

[dpb5031]

I just saw Johnny Miller's comments on GC.

 

There will be plenty of writers and other pundits who will agree with Johnny and continue to support his round at Oakmont as the greatest in a major, and they're probably correct in that assessment.

 

I just can't believe that Miller isn't emotionally intelligent enough to simply keep his mouth shut and let others boast for him, as they undoubtedly will. JM has made himself look like an azz with those comments.

[shortgame85]

Johnny laughs at 63: Miller was certainly a great player, and his 63 at Oakmont was a round for the ages. However, Miller's comments and, most especially, the tone of his comments regarding Thomas' achievement is nothing less than boorish. He could have left it at, "Congratulations to Justin. He had a great round and I wish him well." But he cannot resist pointing out, in whatever oblique way, that his 63 was different. Of course it was different: it was for the win, at Oakmont on Sunday. But he didn't have to rain on Justin's parade. It was not only unnecessary, it displayed a lack of graciousness. In this way, Miller indeed sets himself apart from many of the game's greatest, such as Nicklaus and Palmer, who invariably deferred to a learned or inherent graciousness and let the obviousness of their glorious achievements speak for itself.

[NoTalentLefty]

I just saw Johnny Miller's comments on GC.

 

There will be plenty of writers and other pundits who will agree with Johnny and continue to support his round at Oakmont as the greatest in a major, and they're probably correct in that assessment.

 

I just can't believe that Miller isn't emotionally intelligent enough to simply keep his mouth shut and let others boast for him, as they undoubtedly will. JM has made himself look like an azz with those comments.

 

This!

[upndowninthree]

Johnny is doing what he's paid to do, he's giving his opinion on a subject that he was asked about, stye is irrelevant. If he was to have the reaction of say , Nicklaus, that would be no fun. Classy, yeah, Jack is aways all class, but again a little boring. Miller like's to stir it up. And comparing things from different era's is always difficult.

[golfheaven69]

When more than a handful of players are close to the number it speaks for itself. Nice score but this is an everyday tour setup.

[Ignatius Reilly]

Johnny Miller looks,

Down Erin Hills fairways and

Says, fake U.S. Open.

 

Haikudos for that!

[DivitsInTheGreen]

And considering what the USGA did the next year at Winged Foot where Hale won with something like 7 over - anyone playing tomorrow might be in for some surprises.

 

I think the USGA will definitely be looking for some payback next year at Shinnecock but there's not a lot they can do for tomorrow. The course really handcuffs them. Not a lot you can do to Erin to trick it up. The fairways are just too wide and the fescue won't have time to grow in from where they cut it on Wednesday. About the only thing they can do is set the tees back as far as they'll go and tuck the pins. And that won't be enough. They'll need some help from Mother Nature.

 

If the USGA is smart, theyll set up the course to be as gettable as they can.

 

We've got record scoring and about 16 guys with a legit shot to win. Dont muck it up now. Let these guys put on a show.

 

These guys put on a show every week. I'd rather see how they handle penal conditions.

 

I chuckle whenever someone says penal conditions. Yes, I'm immature.

 

I do too! And I'm getting old. I did notice that you are SERIOUSLY JACKED! as well.

[glm]

records are made to be broken

even johnny would have to agree with that

 

also johnny did not play any 500+ yard par 4's or 600+ yard par 5's

 

JMO

[Ajit]

Justin Thomas was 9.2 shots better than the field average for the day as compared to Miller's 10.8 shots better. They are both remarkable, in fact Thomas' round was even better (by fractions) than his 59 earlier this season as compared to the field.

 

Neither of those quite compare to the 59 Jim Furyk shot in 2013 which was a staggering 12.1 shots better than the field average. Of course it wasn't at a major which probably does diminish it just a bit.

 

Great post. You win this thread.

[WilCox]

Thomas could have shot 59 and Miller would still have reacted the same.

 

Face it, Johnny, you've been bumped.

[kg92lefty]

Thomas could have shot 59 and Miller would still have reacted the same.

 

Face it, Johnny, you've been bumped.

 

Little early to be drinking that hard. Any records or scores this week are a joke.

[Llortamaisey]

I think it should also be pointed out to help Miller's argument that the Lakers of the early 70s would smoke this years Warriors team. Everything was better back then.

[Golfnutgalen]

Justin Thomas was 9.2 shots better than the field average for the day as compared to Miller's 10.8 shots better. They are both remarkable, in fact Thomas' round was even better (by fractions) than his 59 earlier this season as compared to the field.

 

Neither of those quite compare to the 59 Jim Furyk shot in 2013 which was a staggering 12.1 shots better than the field average. Of course it wasn't at a major which probably does diminish it just a bit.

 

Great post. You win this thread.

 

Thanks man!

 

I could not find the field average for the 2016 final round which I was curious about as well...I had to just add them all up myself to find out. Stenson's 63 was 9.8 shots better than the field that day which was 72.80.

[jslane57]

Miller should tell the truth. These kids play a different game completely. With today's equipment, he would have shot a 53!

[WilCox]

Thomas could have shot 59 and Miller would still have reacted the same. Face it, Johnny, you've been bumped.

Little early to be drinking that hard. Any records or scores this week are a joke.

 

#1 Dustin Johnson, #2 Rory McIlroy and #3 Jason Day all missed the cut. I guess they weren't in on the joke.