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Pretty sure it is the microphone not picking up certain frequencies, guys. You can get all kinds of sounds if using the wrong mic or placing it incorrectly.

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anyone hear the faint sound of propeller driven planes, very annoying and obviously fake.

 

 

Plantation course is in the takeoff path of Kapalaua airport which is used by island hopper prop planes. So obviously not fake.

geez rock... ya set me straight. Thnx. I'll work on my fake/sarcastic thread input

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Does anyone have any video clips of these sounds? As someone with a background in audio engineering and live sound I find it extremely unlikely that they are manipulating live audio, the logistics would be too much of a headache with WAY too much risk that something doesn't line up perfectly.

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Does anyone have any video clips of these sounds? As someone with a background in audio engineering and live sound I find it extremely unlikely that they are manipulating live audio, the logistics would be too much of a headache with WAY too much risk that something doesn't line up perfectly.

https://twitter.com/...079564457713664

That is not a wedge sound at all.

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Does anyone have any video clips of these sounds? As someone with a background in audio engineering and live sound I find it extremely unlikely that they are manipulating live audio, the logistics would be too much of a headache with WAY too much risk that something doesn't line up perfectly.

https://twitter.com/...079564457713664

That is not a wedge sound at all.

 

Hah wow, you're absolutely right. It's also late in relation to the strike itself. That stumps me to be honest, because I see no point. It's not uncommon to have audio missing on the strike and no audio is certainly better than the wrong audio. Very strange, especially given that replacing live audio is not an easy thing to do.

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Does anyone have any video clips of these sounds? As someone with a background in audio engineering and live sound I find it extremely unlikely that they are manipulating live audio, the logistics would be too much of a headache with WAY too much risk that something doesn't line up perfectly.

https://twitter.com/...079564457713664

That is not a wedge sound at all.

 

Hah wow, you're absolutely right. It's also late in relation to the strike itself. That stumps me to be honest, because I see no point. It's not uncommon to have audio missing on the strike and no audio is certainly better than the wrong audio. Very strange, especially given that replacing live audio is not an easy thing to do.

 

Audio sync problems happen. Production trucks are a complex environment where many things can go wrong. And that sound is the result of a handheld parabolic mic being pointed directly at the impact by a grip standing 20 feet away.

 

Flat Earth.

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Does anyone have any video clips of these sounds? As someone with a background in audio engineering and live sound I find it extremely unlikely that they are manipulating live audio, the logistics would be too much of a headache with WAY too much risk that something doesn't line up perfectly.

https://twitter.com/...079564457713664

That is not a wedge sound at all.

 

Hah wow, you're absolutely right. It's also late in relation to the strike itself. That stumps me to be honest, because I see no point. It's not uncommon to have audio missing on the strike and no audio is certainly better than the wrong audio. Very strange, especially given that replacing live audio is not an easy thing to do.

 

Audio sync problems happen. Production trucks are a complex environment where many things can go wrong. And that sound is the result of a handheld parabolic mic being pointed directly at the impact by a grip standing 20 feet away.

 

Flat Earth.

 

I mean, it makes the most sense that its just a byproduct of equipment, but that does not explain the lack of consistency, and the fact that it only seemed to be in Round 1. Parabolic microphones don't magically capture information that isn't there and the pitch is WAY too high for it to be a wedge strike. I didn't see a single parabolic mic out there in any of the videos either, only shotgun mic. I'm not interested in conspiracy theory BS, i'm just curious as to why a few random wedge shots sounded completely different. Also, check 0:37, 0:57, and 1:07 on this video. Its a little hard to tell because the background music, but all three of those strikes sound identical to me.

 

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Jeez. Now I have to watch the rebroadcast.

 

I can’t fathom why they would take the time and effort to do it, but some of you guys sure seem convinced.

 

You honestly think some guy is in a TV production truck adding impact noices? Hum. Weird and tedious.

:cheesy: also listened for the fake bird sounds....

 

Nice FOX trick on their USGA broadcasts.

hey that was the faint shrill of the ill fated Eastern Meadow lark

 

Or, the difference between the African swallow or the European swallow

 

(Let's see who bites....)

 

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Does anyone have any video clips of these sounds? As someone with a background in audio engineering and live sound I find it extremely unlikely that they are manipulating live audio, the logistics would be too much of a headache with WAY too much risk that something doesn't line up perfectly.

https://twitter.com/...079564457713664

That is not a wedge sound at all.

 

Hah wow, you're absolutely right. It's also late in relation to the strike itself. That stumps me to be honest, because I see no point. It's not uncommon to have audio missing on the strike and no audio is certainly better than the wrong audio. Very strange, especially given that replacing live audio is not an easy thing to do.

 

Camera and mic at same distance from player, say, 100-150 m? The image reaches the camera at the speed of light, which is 299,792,458 m/s. The audio reaches at the speed of sound, which is 343 m/s. Hence the discrepancy. In any case, the whole notion of added sounds fails the test of the Law of Parsimony. The professional ball strike does sound different, and parabolic mics do sometimes select frequencies oddly.

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Does anyone have any video clips of these sounds? As someone with a background in audio engineering and live sound I find it extremely unlikely that they are manipulating live audio, the logistics would be too much of a headache with WAY too much risk that something doesn't line up perfectly.

https://twitter.com/...079564457713664

That is not a wedge sound at all.

 

Hah wow, you're absolutely right. It's also late in relation to the strike itself. That stumps me to be honest, because I see no point. It's not uncommon to have audio missing on the strike and no audio is certainly better than the wrong audio. Very strange, especially given that replacing live audio is not an easy thing to do.

 

Maybe they accidentally had the audio running from a mic somewhere else on the course while he was hitting that wedge, and the sound happened to almost sync up. I know I’ve heard that happen before when watching golf. People make mistakes.

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Does anyone have any video clips of these sounds? As someone with a background in audio engineering and live sound I find it extremely unlikely that they are manipulating live audio, the logistics would be too much of a headache with WAY too much risk that something doesn't line up perfectly.

https://twitter.com/...079564457713664

That is not a wedge sound at all.

 

Hah wow, you're absolutely right. It's also late in relation to the strike itself. That stumps me to be honest, because I see no point. It's not uncommon to have audio missing on the strike and no audio is certainly better than the wrong audio. Very strange, especially given that replacing live audio is not an easy thing to do.

 

Camera and mic at same distance from player, say, 100-150 m? The image reaches the camera at the speed of light, which is 299,792,458 m/s. The audio reaches at the speed of sound, which is 343 m/s. Hence the discrepancy. In any case, the whole notion of added sounds fails the test of the Law of Parsimony. The professional ball strike does sound different, and parabolic mics do sometimes select frequencies oddly.

 

That explains the delay, sure as heck does not explain the sound though. That was straight up the sound of a fairway wood being hit off the deck from only several feet away. NO mic captures audio like that from 100m+ without an amount of gain that would leak a lot more background noise, parabolic or otherwise, and even then it sound significantly different from that range.

 

Maybe they accidentally had the audio running from a mic somewhere else on the course while he was hitting that wedge, and the sound happened to almost sync up. I know I've heard that happen before when watching golf. People make mistakes.

 

If it was a one off, maybe, but check the video time stamps above. The same sound for 3 different people, all with no camera on the ground nearby? Pretty clear that they had no audio for those shots so they popped a placeholder sound in there. Those shots probably weren't broadcast live so they would have had time to fly on some quick audio edits. Mics nearby almost always capture ambient movement sounds and pretty much any talking right after the shot. The sounds over those 3 shots sound like tee shots with the mic 10 feet from the ball, and as I said above, with a fairway wood of some sort, and are completely isolated.

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Jeez. Now I have to watch the rebroadcast.

 

I can’t fathom why they would take the time and effort to do it, but some of you guys sure seem convinced.

 

You honestly think some guy is in a TV production truck adding impact noices? Hum. Weird and tedious.

:cheesy: also listened for the fake bird sounds....

 

Nice FOX trick on their USGA broadcasts.

hey that was the faint shrill of the ill fated Eastern Meadow lark

 

Or, the difference between the African swallow or the European swallow

 

(Let's see who bites....)

 

Is that a coconut laden swallow?

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The audio of the Leishman clip sounds like that particular strike made by Leishman and recorded in that particular manner. It does not, in my opinion, sound like a fairway wood, but if it sounds like that to you, it is a far simpler explanation that your perception of the audio or your expectation of what that particular shot should sound like is skewed. We see handheld parabolic mics all over the course and stationary mics at every tee and green; that is where the audio comes from. The theory being advanced would require that either the mics are just for show and NO audio of the strike is real, or that someone in the truck decides during the seven-second delay which strikes are inadequate and pushes the appropriate button at approximately the right time to replace the mic audio with the drop. And then back to the mic to catch the player's comments. And this elaborate ruse gains what? Nobody cares that much. I don't even care enough to argue further, it just pains me to see reason abandoned so giddily.

 

I have hopes that the OP was made for cynical amusement, and those agreeing how terrible the practice is are simply playing along to wind up nerds like me.

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This reminds me of the people complaining of the fake bird sounds at the US Open. Then I went Saturday and watched birds in the long grass all day and heard them chirping. Just like in the broadcast. I actually didn’t notice them much on tv because it’s just a normal sound on Midwest courses.

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Jeez. Now I have to watch the rebroadcast.

 

I can’t fathom why they would take the time and effort to do it, but some of you guys sure seem convinced.

 

You honestly think some guy is in a TV production truck adding impact noices? Hum. Weird and tedious.

:cheesy: also listened for the fake bird sounds....

 

Nice FOX trick on their USGA broadcasts.

hey that was the faint shrill of the ill fated Eastern Meadow lark

 

Or, the difference between the African swallow or the European swallow

 

(Let's see who bites....)

 

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