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On 8/9/2020 at 12:38 PM, Minarets said:

Just really starting to dig in on these irons. They look beautiful. I need to do more research. Glad this thread is here.

Agree. I got mine a couple of weeks ago on the day of the hurricane up here in NY. Lost power for five days so couldn't try them, which sort of put a damper on the golf thingie (my garage door is a steel rollup and while in theory I could open/close it manually that just wasn't going to happen).

 

Now having been able to game the 699s for a few rounds I can only say I'm extremely pleased with the purchase. No disrespect meant to Callaway (I've always been treated fairly by them), but these feel as good as my Mavriks, look great (I like the simplicity of design), are half the price with excellent customer service from Sub70 to boot (although I realize that is just my experience). Naturally we'll see how things develop, but I now have to decide if these will play backup to the Callaways or vice versa.

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2 hours ago, nlk10010 said:

Agree. I got mine a couple of weeks ago on the day of the hurricane up here in NY. Lost power for five days so couldn't try them (my garage door is a steel rollup and while in theory I could open/close it manually that just wasn't going to happen).

 

Now having been able to game the 699s for a few rounds I can only say I'm extremely pleased with the purchase. No disrespect meant to Callaway (I've always been treated fairly by them), but these feel as good as my Mavriks, look great (I like the simplicity of design), are half the price with excellent customer service from NL to boot (although I realize that is just my experience). Naturally we'll see how things develop, but I now have to decide if these will play backup to the Callaways or vice versa.

I think you mean sub70? ?

 

As of  10/11/2021

9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

SeeMore milled Tri-Mallet fit and built at SeeMore 

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Oops, yes, Sub70. Corrected now.

 

Sorry 'bout that (I have no personal experience with NL, I won't comment on what I've read).

 

Thanks.

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So, after playing a bunch of rounds with nothing but the 699 and 699 Pro 6 and 9 iron in my bag for irons, I wound up deciding to go with the 699 Pros. When my swing is going good, my miss is a pull, and the decreased offset in the 699 Pro helps mitigate that.

 

I wound up ordering them with Modus Tour 120 shafts, as I wanted something with slightly lower launch and spin.

In the end, I couldn't be happier. My iron play has become so much more consistent since I got the new irons. Because I had been playing the demo irons, there was very little adjustment to the new set, even with the new shafts. My distance has increased slightly over my Rogues, but dispersion and distance control are MUCH better. My main misses tend to be low on the face and out on the toe, and I lose almost nothing on either with the 699 Pros, both in distance and accuracy. They just feel so smooth yet solid.

Definitely loving these, and probably going to switch out my Ping Glide wedges for some new Sub 70's.

 

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I recently bought a 50 and 54 degree wedge from them, I am extremely impressed.  Almost wish I had a chance to try out their irons before I purchased my i210’s.

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Driver: Callaway Epic Flash 9°
Fairway Wood: Sub 70 Pro 14°

Hybrid: Callaway Apex, 20°
Irons: Ping i210 4-PW

Wedges: 50° Sub 70, 54° Sub 70, 58° TaylorMade Hi-Toe

Putter: EVNROLL ER2B

Ball: Snell MTB Black/Snell MTB-X

GPS/Rangefinder: Precision Pro NX7 Pro

Bag: Ping Hoofer Lite

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1 hour ago, SecondandGoal said:

So, after playing a bunch of rounds with nothing but the 699 and 699 Pro 6 and 9 iron in my bag for irons, I wound up deciding to go with the 699 Pros. When my swing is going good, my miss is a pull, and the decreased offset in the 699 Pro helps mitigate that.

 

I wound up ordering them with Modus Tour 120 shafts, as I wanted something with slightly lower launch and spin.

In the end, I couldn't be happier. My iron play has become so much more consistent since I got the new irons. Because I had been playing the demo irons, there was very little adjustment to the new set, even with the new shafts. My distance has increased slightly over my Rogues, but dispersion and distance control are MUCH better. My main misses tend to be low on the face and out on the toe, and I lose almost nothing on either with the 699 Pros, both in distance and accuracy. They just feel so smooth yet solid.

Definitely loving these, and probably going to switch out my Ping Glide wedges for some new Sub 70's.

 

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Keep us updated on how the black wears. I don't mind a little sole and face fading to gray/silver but interested to see. Also interested if the satin and black 699 pros are bendable at all. I know they offer bending in the ordering process but some golf shops won't bend a non-forged club and I don't know if these are forged.

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1 hour ago, BigCat78 said:

I recently bought a 50 and 54 degree wedge from them, I am extremely impressed.  Almost wish I had a chance to try out their irons before I purchased my i210’s.

You could probably sell the the i210s and buy the Sub 70s and have money left over and still have a great set of irons.

Driver- Tour Edge EXS 220

4W- Sub 70 949X

4H- Sub 70 949X

Utility- Sub 70 699U 21 degree

Irons- Sub 70 739 5-PW

Wedges - Sub 70 286 50+54 degree

                 Tour Edge 1 out 58 degree

Putter- Cleveland Huntington Beach #11

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6 hours ago, adamfoxman90 said:

Got a set of the 639 CB's last week. True Temper tour elevate shafts and z grips. Hit em at their simulator cuz I live within an hour drive. Jason (CEO) gave me a free fitting. Great company, built directly to my specs. 

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Thx for pics.....how are the soles/leading edge on these?  Any sort of relief?  Digger friendly?  TIA

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18 hours ago, Markrip said:

You could probably sell the the i210s and buy the Sub 70s and have money left over and still have a great set of irons.

So true and extremely tempting.  I could also just be like most WRX’ers and just have a second set laying around in case my i210’s don’t want to cooperate ?

Driver: Callaway Epic Flash 9°
Fairway Wood: Sub 70 Pro 14°

Hybrid: Callaway Apex, 20°
Irons: Ping i210 4-PW

Wedges: 50° Sub 70, 54° Sub 70, 58° TaylorMade Hi-Toe

Putter: EVNROLL ER2B

Ball: Snell MTB Black/Snell MTB-X

GPS/Rangefinder: Precision Pro NX7 Pro

Bag: Ping Hoofer Lite

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6 hours ago, BigCat78 said:

So true and extremely tempting.  I could also just be like most WRX’ers and just have a second set laying around in case my i210’s don’t want to cooperate ?

Sounds like a plan.

Driver- Tour Edge EXS 220

4W- Sub 70 949X

4H- Sub 70 949X

Utility- Sub 70 699U 21 degree

Irons- Sub 70 739 5-PW

Wedges - Sub 70 286 50+54 degree

                 Tour Edge 1 out 58 degree

Putter- Cleveland Huntington Beach #11

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8 hours ago, BigCat78 said:

So true and extremely tempting.  I could also just be like most WRX’ers and just have a second set laying around in case my i210’s don’t want to cooperate ?

 

Only two?  A true WRXer has backups for the backups of his backups...

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Driver: TM 300 Mini 11.5*, Tour Blue 85 X, 44" -or- Cobra Fly-Z+, Phenom NL 60 X, 44.5"

3w: King LTD, Aldila RIP Beta 90 X -or- TM Stage 2 Tour, NV105 X
Hybrid:  Cobra King Tec 2h, MMT 80 S -or- TEE CBX 17*, HZRDUS 85 6.0

2 iron:  Mizuno MP-20 HMB, Steelfiber i95 S, 39.5"

Irons grab bag:  1-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 1-PW Golden Ram TW282, RIP Tour 115 R; 3-AW Pinhawk Vertex irons, Apollo std stepped S
Wedges:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, SteelFiber i125 S -or- Scratch 8620 DD 53*, SteelFiber i125 S; PM Grind 19 58* -or- Wilson Staff PMP 58*, Dynamic S -or- Ram TW282 SW -or- Ram TW276 SW
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34" -or- Cleveland Huntington Beach #1, 34.5" -or- Golden Ram TW Custom, 34" -or- Rife Bimini, 34"
Balls: Chrome Soft, Kirkland Signature 3pc, Srixon Q Star Tour

Grip preference: various GripMaster leather options

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Has anyone had the opportunity to hit the Maltby TS1 irons? I was just curious to the comparison between the TS1's and the 699's? I currently game the TS1's and like them very much but the 699's look like a really sweet iron.

Ping 400 Max
Callaway Maverick 4W
Sub 70 699 Pro 2 Utility

Ping i210 4-PW
Ping Glide 3.0 50, 54, 58
Scotty Special Select Fastback

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On 8/9/2020 at 12:38 PM, Minarets said:

Just really starting to dig in on these irons. They look beautiful. I need to do more research. Glad this thread is here.

How’d the research go? 

As of  10/11/2021

9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

SeeMore milled Tri-Mallet fit and built at SeeMore 

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Tried a different DTC brand but didn't like them, looking to give the 699s a try. Can get them with the same setup as my current irons (PX 6.0, +0.5", Lamkin Crossline) for under $100 an iron. 

PXG 0811X+ 10.5* (12*)

CW Epic Flash 5W 

TM M3 3H & 4H

TM RocketBladez HL 5-PW

W/S PMP 52*, 56*, 60*

Cleveland HB Soft #1

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34 minutes ago, st8kdinr said:

Patiently (actually very impatiently) waiting for my LH 699 set to arrive.  These definitely have a great look and I'm fairly confident they'll be in one of my bags for a long time.  Will post my review once they arrive and I get to hit them.

Enjoy! I'm glad they've added some LH stuff. 

As of  10/11/2021

9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

SeeMore milled Tri-Mallet fit and built at SeeMore 

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I'm really enjoying my Sub70 hybrids.  Really have been nice additions to the bag and at a great price.  

SIM2 Max (testing Stealth and it's winning!)
Ping G410 5 wood
Ping G410 7 & 9 woods 

Titleist T200  5 & 6

Titleist T100S 7-gap 
54* SM8
Sub70 JB low bounce 58* or SM8 58*
PXG Operator H w/ BGT stability tour shaft

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4 hours ago, st8kdinr said:

Patiently (actually very impatiently) waiting for my LH 699 set to arrive.  These definitely have a great look and I'm fairly confident they'll be in one of my bags for a long time.  Will post my review once they arrive and I get to hit them.

Did you try them before buying ?

Asking as being a fellow lefty the 699 is the only choice and my concern is on how big the actual club is ...i game Srixon 765 and trying to get some more forgiveness so on the lookout.

If these are the same size as callaway apex then i should be fine, any larger or more offset it would take some time getting mentally ready when standing on top of the ball.

 

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17 minutes ago, coolcucumber_1 said:

Did you try them before buying ?

Asking as being a fellow lefty the 699 is the only choice and my concern is on how big the actual club is ...i game Srixon 765 and trying to get some more forgiveness so on the lookout.

If these are the same size as callaway apex then i should be fine, any larger or more offset it would take some time getting mentally ready when standing on top of the ball.

 

I did not try them.  I've been going through irons sets lately like Skittles and what sold me on these were the fairly thin top line, overall good reviews and price.  I currently have 2016 Apex pros in one bag now and Sirxon 765's in the other (which I'm currently trying to sell).  I haven't played much with the "injected head" design much but am definitely looking forward to it.  I understand the offset but in all the reviews and videos, I didn't notice anything that was off-putting.  I'll definitely report back and try to do some comparisons with whatever irons I've got in hand ? 

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1 hour ago, coolcucumber_1 said:

Did you try them before buying ?

Asking as being a fellow lefty the 699 is the only choice and my concern is on how big the actual club is ...i game Srixon 765 and trying to get some more forgiveness so on the lookout.

If these are the same size as callaway apex then i should be fine, any larger or more offset it would take some time getting mentally ready when standing on top of the ball.

 

699's are bigger than the Z's. You'll want to check out 699 Pros if headsize is a concern

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1 hour ago, gbartko said:

I bought the 4-7 in 699 and 8-A in 699 pro. After playing and some range time I think I should’ve went all 699 pro.

 

1 hour ago, rondre3000 said:

699's are bigger than the Z's. You'll want to check out 699 Pros if headsize is a concern


One of the many reasons I love this site. You guys are giving valuable info. It is so hard to determine head size sometimes. Makes a difference to know. Made the mistake of buying a PXG 0211 without ever seeing one in hand and was surprised at how long it was heel to toe. 


The 699 looks like it is kind of a long blade. The 699 Pro seems similar in size to a TM 790 or the new 770? Is that a close comparison?
 

Also, are the 699 Pros close to as forgiving as the standard 699? Thanks!

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12 hours ago, larryd3 said:

I'm really enjoying my Sub70 hybrids.  Really have been nice additions to the bag and at a great price.  

Hey @larryd3 I thing a lot of us would enjoy a quick review if you could spare a moment. I've heard a lot of praise about the irons but can't find much on the hybrids. I'm in the market for an adjustable one and the TS2 and Callaway Super are at the top of my list but If I could save a $100 or 2 that would be great.

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go back a few pages I posted 699 vs my cobra forged tecs.  The 699's slightly bigger but still pleasing to the eye.  I think the 699 pros would be a great combination of looks and forgiveness and appeal to the players distance crowd but I did not demo them...yet. 

Taylormade M6, 9.0* head set -1.5*, Nippon Regio B+ shaft, 65 stiff at 45.5"
Cobra FLY Z+ 3 wood, orange, aldila tour blue stiff, 14.5*
Sub 70 939x, 3H(18*), Proforce V2 85 stiff
Sub 70 939x, 4H(21*), Proforce V2 85 stiff
Sub 70 699 Pros, 5-AW, Modus 120 stiff
PING glide 2.0, 54*

Taylormade MG3, 58* HB 
Scotty Select Newport, 73* lie, 1* loft, 34" (Testing Taylormade Bandon 1)
Bridgestone Tour BX (Alternate ball VICE PRO)

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14 hours ago, gbartko said:

I bought the 4-7 in 699 and 8-A in 699 pro. After playing and some range time I think I should’ve went all 699 pro.

I considered going the combo route, but in the end, decided to go all 699 Pro, and I'm glad I did.

 

13 hours ago, dmeeksDC said:

 


One of the many reasons I love this site. You guys are giving valuable info. It is so hard to determine head size sometimes. Makes a difference to know. Made the mistake of buying a PXG 0211 without ever seeing one in hand and was surprised at how long it was heel to toe. 


The 699 looks like it is kind of a long blade. The 699 Pro seems similar in size to a TM 790 or the new 770? Is that a close comparison?
 

Also, are the 699 Pros close to as forgiving as the standard 699? Thanks!

The 699 and 699 Pro are literally exactly the same head, except for slightly less offset and a slightly thinner topline in the Pro. Same materials, same size, same weight, same construction.

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51 minutes ago, SecondandGoal said:

I considered going the combo route, but in the end, decided to go all 699 Pro, and I'm glad I did.

 

The 699 and 699 Pro are literally exactly the same head, except for slightly less offset and a slightly thinner topline in the Pro. Same materials, same size, same weight, same construction.


Same exact blade length heel to toe? I was under the impression the Pro is slightly shorter and that the sole is slightly thinner. Not so?

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