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7 minutes ago, dmeeksDC said:


Same exact blade length heel to toe? I was under the impression the Pro is slightly shorter and that the sole is slightly thinner. Not so?

Nope. At least that's what Jason told me. Offset and thinner topline are the only differences.

 

Looking at the two hand in hand, if I didn't know what I was looking for, I may not even have noticed what the difference was. It's very subtle.

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14 hours ago, dmeeksDC said:

 


One of the many reasons I love this site. You guys are giving valuable info. It is so hard to determine head size sometimes. Makes a difference to know. Made the mistake of buying a PXG 0211 without ever seeing one in hand and was surprised at how long it was heel to toe. 


The 699 looks like it is kind of a long blade. The 699 Pro seems similar in size to a TM 790 or the new 770? Is that a close comparison?
 

Also, are the 699 Pros close to as forgiving as the standard 699? Thanks!

@DMeeks17 - For reference, the 699's are clearly larger than JPX919 Hot Metal Pros ?

 

I was kind of surprised at this, and to be honest it turned me off...until I hit one. I demo'd the 699 w/ their Project X graphite offering and was hitting towering shots. Ball gets up in a hurry, with ease and that clubhead is definitely more forgiving than the smaller HMP I play today. I can't say that I saw a distance increase, but I didn't notice it was flying shorter either. I would say the 699's are relatively the same size as the regular Hot Metals for reference. If you are OK with that then by all means give them a try. They are a good looking club, but I prefer something slightly smaller (less offset, shorter blade length and slimmer sole).

 

Hoping to receive some 699 PRO demos here in the next few days and see how those compare. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, ronster said:

Didn't see this posted but here is the recent review done by TXG:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYxxxvNrB9k

 

That's awesome good for sub70.  After watching that video I can concur, the 699 pros would be better for me to fit my eye. Also that hybrid sounded sweet too.  

Taylormade M6, 9.0* head set -1.5*, Nippon Regio B+ shaft, 65 stiff at 45.5"
Cobra FLY Z+ 3 wood, orange, aldila tour blue stiff, 14.5*
Sub 70 939x, 3H(18*), Proforce V2 85 stiff
Sub 70 939x, 4H(21*), Proforce V2 85 stiff
Sub 70 699 Pros, 5-AW, Modus 120 stiff
PING glide 2.0, 54*

Taylormade MG3, 58* HB 
Scotty Select Newport, 73* lie, 1* loft, 34" (Testing Taylormade Bandon 1)
Bridgestone Tour BX (Alternate ball VICE PRO)

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3 hours ago, Mr. Blutarski said:

I've been looking at Sub 70 for about 6 months. Called Jason last Friday to inquire about why there was only 6-W and not 5-W in the 639CB on the website. He let me know that 3-5 heads were on the way. We talked for 30 minutes or so and he's a wealth of knowledge on shaft specs in relation to ball flight and workability.

 

He just texted me and let me know that 5 iron heads were in and I had another question about shaft length and he called me right away. I have to say that the service received from Jason is second to none. I wanted a different grip (CP2) than was offered and he told me it would be no problem. Made the order and he let me know my clubs would ship next week.

 

Can't wait for my clubs to get here and if you're reading this Jason, thank you so much. Can't recommend Sub 70 enough.

 

 

Jason is just genuinely fun to talk to about golf equipment... 

 

He posted on Twitter about forcing his kids to bag tees for the business... just seems like a fun guy running a golf equipment company. 
 

It helps that everything I’ve bought from them performs.

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9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

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3 hours ago, Robmc826 said:

I received my 699's today. will post a more detailed review once I get some time with them.

 

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Man those do look sexy! Love to see these head to head against my Mavrik Pro's.

 

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Was interested in trying the P770's but these have my interest as well, especially at their price. 699 Pro/639 CB combo? Hmm...

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PXG 0311 BO 18° - Tensei AV Raw White

PXG 0311 BO 22° - Tensei AV Raw White
PXG BLE 0317T - 5-PW - Project X
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PXG Sugar Daddy II - PX - 53° (54°)

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4 hours ago, eRod v1.0 said:

Was interested in trying the P770's but these have my interest as well, especially at their price. 699 Pro/639 CB combo? Hmm...


That’s the setup I like. 699 Pro 5-6, 639 CB 7-PW. Seems like the right blend for my game. I like the sole and low bounce of the CBs. 
 

Though I also like the look of the 639 MB or MB Plus and it is gaining a Srixon-like rep as an easy to hit muscleback. I can see why the CB/MB combo has sold so well for them. 

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PXG GEN6 5 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Yamaha RMX VD 7 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Callaway Mavrik Pro hybrid (22) w/Aldila Tour Blue 85 stiff hybrid

Wilson Staff Model CB 5-G w/DG s300 shafts

Edel T grind 54 w/Nippon 125 wedge shaft

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7 hours ago, Mr. Blutarski said:

When did you order? I know it says 8-10 days but was wondering how long they took to get to you.

They took a month to get to me. I ordered a shaft that had to be ordered. In that time the 699 heads went out of stock. I would say the 8-10 sounds about right if everything is in stock. 

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I've ordered from them twice this year, and both times the turn around was decent.. even with them being on lockdown.

 

Overall availability is weird, but it sounds like they are stocked up again.

As of  10/11/2021

9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

SeeMore milled Tri-Mallet fit and built at SeeMore 

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I received my hybrids in under 2 weeks and I also ordered a 6 iron 699 pro black and got it in 1 week.  They are really quick.  Great service.  

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Ping G410 5 wood
Ping G410 7 & 9 woods 

Titleist T350 irons
54* & 58* Sub70 JB Wedges
PXG Operator H w/ BGT stability tour shaft or  SIK FLO C with LAGP shaft

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7 minutes ago, larryd3 said:

I received my hybrids in under 2 weeks and I also ordered a 6 iron 699 pro black and got it in 1 week.  They are really quick.  Great service.  

How'd you like the hybrids? I think they are coming out with a "pro" model that isn't adjustable... I'd rather play fixed hosel everything, so I'm excited to try it and their operation allows them to actually hand select heads to my specs.

As of  10/11/2021

9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

SeeMore milled Tri-Mallet fit and built at SeeMore 

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2 hours ago, Myherobobhope said:

How'd you like the hybrids? I think they are coming out with a "pro" model that isn't adjustable... I'd rather play fixed hosel everything, so I'm excited to try it and their operation allows them to actually hand select heads to my specs.

I really like the hybrids.  I started out ordering 1 and then ended up scrapping my Titleist 816 H1s for Sub70s.  For me a better ball flight and spec'd out how I want them.  On the adjustability of the hybrids, I believe it's only 1* upright or 1* flat.  no adjustment for lofts.  I haven't messed with it, just have mine on standard.  

Ping G400 max
Ping G410 5 wood
Ping G410 7 & 9 woods 

Titleist T350 irons
54* & 58* Sub70 JB Wedges
PXG Operator H w/ BGT stability tour shaft or  SIK FLO C with LAGP shaft

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16 hours ago, VA_Astra said:

Man those do look sexy! Love to see these head to head against my Mavrik Pro's.

 

Yea, I have Mavriks as well (the standard version) and these and I just love the "elegant simplicity" of the 699. Of course everyone's different but they're hard to kick out of the bag.

 

As to customer service, I can only say that my experience mimics that of most of the other posters on this thread. Exactly what I was hoping for:  It's not a matter of good or bad, it's a matter of responsive and efficient. My clubs took a bit longer than I was expecting but I was informed as to the reason and the situation was resolved to my satisfaction. It's valuable to know how a company responds when things don't go exactly as expected, plus the price is hard to beat.

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2 hours ago, larryd3 said:

I really like the hybrids.  I started out ordering 1 and then ended up scrapping my Titleist 816 H1s for Sub70s.  For me a better ball flight and spec'd out how I want them.  On the adjustability of the hybrids, I believe it's only 1* upright or 1* flat.  no adjustment for lofts.  I haven't messed with it, just have mine on standard.  

Yeah, my generic problem with adjustable is I never use it, it takes up weight and thus I’m compromising performance for no utility.

 

ill likely end up in the pro version whenever they release it.

As of  10/11/2021

9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

SeeMore milled Tri-Mallet fit and built at SeeMore 

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7 hours ago, larryd3 said:

. . .I believe it's only 1* upright or 1* flat.  no adjustment for lofts.  . . .

 

This is correct, no loft adjustment, just lie adjustment

Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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8 hours ago, nlk10010 said:

Yea, I have Mavriks as well (the standard version) and these and I just love the "elegant simplicity" of the 699. Of course everyone's different but they're hard to kick out of the bag.

 

As to customer service, I can only say that my experience mimics that of most of the other posters on this thread. Exactly what I was hoping for:  It's not a matter of good or bad, it's a matter of responsive and efficient. My clubs took a bit longer than I was expecting but I was informed as to the reason and the situation was resolved to my satisfaction. It's valuable to know how a company responds when things don't go exactly as expected, plus the price is hard to beat.

 

How are they in distance, looks and feel compared to your Mav's?

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VA_Astra:  Honestly, as far as looks go, I really love the simplicity of the Sub70 heads (and I think the Mavriks are one of the best looking irons I've seen). But of course that's personal.

 

Feel is really about the same, if anything, a bit softer feel on the Sub70 (and a slightly more muted sound on the shorter irons, 8 and up). Distance is tricky as the build specs for the two sets were slightly different and I have a heavier shaft in the Sub70s (Callaway Project X 55g vs UST Recoil 68g, both A flex). I would probably say the Mavriks are a bit more forgiving but, again, there's not much in it.

 

As I say, if I only wanted one set then I would be happy with either, which is a funny thing to say as the Callaways were almost twice the price (albeit with one more club). But I wanted two sets and I don't regret either purchase.

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Well my 699s arrived today and I just got back from a quick range session. I’m in the same boat as many others, extremely impressed and happy I made the purchase. I can’t find anything to dislike about these. I got the 5-pw and these things definitely got some power. The closest flag was 136 with a slight 5-8 mph breeze into me and the PW was getting there. They launched much higher than I’m used to but I’m putting a lot of that into the fact I got these with project x graphite shafts. They just hung in the air and kept going forward.
 

Below are some comparison pics that may help. 
1. 5 irons of L to R

Srixon 765, Sub70, AP3

2. 5 irons of L to R

AP3, Sub70, Srixon

3. AP3 and Sub70

4. Sub70 and Srixon 

5. PW of Sub70

6. Top- 6 iron of Callaway 2018 X-Forged, Bottom 6 iron of Sub70

7. Goodie box!

 

more than happy to answer any questions if I can!  Definitely a brand I’ll be hoping to see more lefty options of!

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Bit the bullet, just ordered a set of Combos today, will be here next week. Will play against Gen 1 PXG's and Mav Pro irons.

 

Ordered 4-6 699 and 7-pw Pro

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9 hours ago, VA_Astra said:

Bit the bullet, just ordered a set of Combos today, will be here next week. Will play against Gen 1 PXG's and Mav Pro irons.

 

Ordered 4-6 699 and 7-pw Pro

Nice! 
 

let us know how they do!

As of  10/11/2021

9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

SeeMore milled Tri-Mallet fit and built at SeeMore 

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13 hours ago, Myherobobhope said:

Nice! 
 

let us know how they do!

Of course, ill do a post with pics, feel etc.

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My 639CB/MB combo set is (hopefully) coming in next week. A couple of the heads went OOS filling orders ahead of mine due to some holdups at customs. Bummed as I was hoping to get them out this week but anxiously awaiting. I'm moving off of an ancient set of Ping G5s that are way too offset and chunky for my liking.

I'll post pictures when they come in. 3-8 in CB and 9-PW MB with loft adjustments on pretty much all of them to try and get my gaps where I want them. It was great working with the whole team to get everything exactly how I want it.

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I wish I could have looked at these before getting fitted to my i500's. Now, I love my i500s, but I would have loved a chance at these first. 

 

Mid quarantine I did order a 48* from sub 70 and a 56* from Haywood. I bent the 56 to a 54 before I ever even hit it. I did order both raw. I'm loving both clubs differently. The 70 is a great 110 club, bump and run, and over all utility club. The Haywood has been great in the sand and good for open face shots around the green. They've also both rusted out pretty sweet. The clubs are in my car and I'm not going out to snap a pic, but I took this yesterday playing a par 3 course and you can see the good patina on both. 

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