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No. It's not about ranking the Tour, it's about ranking the events. I'm a big fan of the ET and generally think it's a better run tour, but compare the strength of fields of the events and you will see why people might feel that generally the PGA Tour events rank more.

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The "strongest" non-major, non-WGC field on the ET for 2018 in would have ranked 16th on the PGA Tour, just below the Valspar.

More stats. Just what we need. There's more to enjoying a tournament or whether it's even a good event than the strength of the field. It's not that simple. The US PGA claims the strongest field in golf, every year and the players always makes a similar argument. Does that make them the best tournaments? Hardly. I'd say most people on here including you would laugh at that suggestion.

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Good grief. Nobody (except for you just now) said anything about enjoyment, quality of entertainment, or "best". those are subjective to the viewer. The conversation was regarding relative strength of the events, and where they could be ranked, yes, using statistical measures. Because how else would you quantify them?

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And by the way, The PGA Championship IS the strongest field in golf. Year in and year out. The PGA Tour's claim is directly attributed to its ongoing war to make it "the fifth Major". Sure it's the strongest non Major field (usually) but often times The Open Championship is stronger, field wise. And the Masters? The tradition unlike any other? The one that everyone wants to win? Weakest field of the Majors and even weaker than some WGC, but it's regarded as the "best". There's nothing wrong with that, because it's subjective.

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Ranking events based on strength of field was not how this discussion started. It was rankings of events based on someone's opinion. You introduced the strength of field metric for the basis of YOUR point to the discussion so maybe read it again before you "roll your eyes" at what I've said.

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And as far as The Masters goes, it's not "the" one major everyone wants to win. There's plenty of players out there that put The Open on the top of the "if I could win one major" list or the US Open. The Masters would have you believe it's always them on the top of that list, but just because they say it's true, doesn't mean it is.

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No. It's not about ranking the Tour, it's about ranking the events. I'm a big fan of the ET and generally think it's a better run tour, but compare the strength of fields of the events and you will see why people might feel that generally the PGA Tour events rank more.

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The "strongest" non-major, non-WGC field on the ET for 2018 in would have ranked 16th on the PGA Tour, just below the Valspar.

More stats. Just what we need. There's more to enjoying a tournament or whether it's even a good event than the strength of the field. It's not that simple. The US PGA claims the strongest field in golf, every year and the players always makes a similar argument. Does that make them the best tournaments? Hardly. I'd say most people on here including you would laugh at that suggestion.

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Good grief. Nobody (except for you just now) said anything about enjoyment, quality of entertainment, or "best". those are subjective to the viewer. The conversation was regarding relative strength of the events, and where they could be ranked, yes, using statistical measures. Because how else would you quantify them?

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And by the way, The PGA Championship IS the strongest field in golf. Year in and year out. The PGA Tour's claim is directly attributed to its ongoing war to make it "the fifth Major". Sure it's the strongest non Major field (usually) but often times The Open Championship is stronger, field wise. And the Masters? The tradition unlike any other? The one that everyone wants to win? Weakest field of the Majors and even weaker than some WGC, but it's regarded as the "best". There's nothing wrong with that, because it's subjective.

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Ranking events based on strength of field was not how this discussion started. It was rankings of events based on someone's opinion. You introduced the strength of field metric for the basis of YOUR point to the discussion so maybe read it again before you "roll your eyes" at what I've said.

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And as far as The Masters goes, it's not "the" one major everyone wants to win. There's plenty of players out there that put The Open on the top of the "if I could win one major" list or the US Open. The Masters would have you believe it's always them on the top of that list, but just because they say it's true, doesn't mean it is.

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I didn't roll my eyes. You keep making things up. But its cool. See ya around

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hal sutton beat jack to win a major and tiger to win a players. pretty impressive.

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..reminds me of a story about Hal Sutton during the World Amateurs in Pinehurst in 1980 I think..

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one of our Philippine team members who was a good friend was playing with him and he was hitting 7-irons for his 2nd shots on par4s while my friend was hitting 4-wood..

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Lets say you were goin to fly down to da Players for the weekend?

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What airport do you fly into?

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Any good recommendation on where to stay?

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Best way to get tickets?

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And any other tips on generally getting around?

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If TW is doing well in Friday, thinking of makin the trip.

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Any help appreciated ; )

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Lets say you were goin to fly down to da Players for the weekend?

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What airport do you fly into?

jax or orlando

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Any good recommendation on where to stay?

lots of hotels in jax

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Best way to get tickets?

the internet

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And any other tips on generally getting around?

a car

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If TW is doing well in Friday, thinking of makin the trip.

HELL YES

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Any help appreciated ; )

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Jax=jacksonville

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No. It's not about ranking the Tour, it's about ranking the events. I'm a big fan of the ET and generally think it's a better run tour, but compare the strength of fields of the events and you will see why people might feel that generally the PGA Tour events rank more.

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The "strongest" non-major, non-WGC field on the ET for 2018 in would have ranked 16th on the PGA Tour, just below the Valspar.

More stats. Just what we need. There's more to enjoying a tournament or whether it's even a good event than the strength of the field. It's not that simple. The US PGA claims the strongest field in golf, every year and the players always makes a similar argument. Does that make them the best tournaments? Hardly. I'd say most people on here including you would laugh at that suggestion.

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Good grief. Nobody (except for you just now) said anything about enjoyment, quality of entertainment, or "best". those are subjective to the viewer. The conversation was regarding relative strength of the events, and where they could be ranked, yes, using statistical measures. Because how else would you quantify them?

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And by the way, The PGA Championship IS the strongest field in golf. Year in and year out. The PGA Tour's claim is directly attributed to its ongoing war to make it "the fifth Major". Sure it's the strongest non Major field (usually) but often times The Open Championship is stronger, field wise. And the Masters? The tradition unlike any other? The one that everyone wants to win? Weakest field of the Majors and even weaker than some WGC, but it's regarded as the "best". There's nothing wrong with that, because it's subjective.

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Ranking events based on strength of field was not how this discussion started. It was rankings of events based on someone's opinion. You introduced the strength of field metric for the basis of YOUR point to the discussion so maybe read it again before you "roll your eyes" at what I've said.

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And as far as The Masters goes, it's not "the" one major everyone wants to win. There's plenty of players out there that put The Open on the top of the "if I could win one major" list or the US Open. The Masters would have you believe it's always them on the top of that list, but just because they say it's true, doesn't mean it is.

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I didn't roll my eyes. You keep making things up. But its cool. See ya around

I didn't think you'd bother checking your facts so I'm not surprised you've become dismissive. Cheers.
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Good grief. Nobody (except for you just now) said anything about enjoyment, quality of entertainment, or "best". those are subjective to the viewer. The conversation was regarding relative strength of the events, and where they could be ranked, yes, using statistical measures. Because how else would you quantify them?

Β 

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And by the way, The PGA Championship IS the strongest field in golf. Year in and year out. The PGA Tour's claim is directly attributed to its ongoing war to make it "the fifth Major". Sure it's the strongest non Major field (usually) but often times The Open Championship is stronger, field wise. And the Masters? The tradition unlike any other? The one that everyone wants to win? Weakest field of the Majors and even weaker than some WGC, but it's regarded as the "best". There's nothing wrong with that, because it's subjective.

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Ranking events based on strength of field was not how this discussion started. It was rankings of events based on someone's opinion. You introduced the strength of field metric for the basis of YOUR point to the discussion so maybe read it again before you "roll your eyes" at what I've said.

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And as far as The Masters goes, it's not "the" one major everyone wants to win. There's plenty of players out there that put The Open on the top of the "if I could win one major" list or the US Open. The Masters would have you believe it's always them on the top of that list, but just because they say it's true, doesn't mean it is.

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I didn't roll my eyes. You keep making things up. But its cool. See ya around

I didn't think you'd bother checking your facts so I'm not surprised you've become dismissive. Cheers.

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get a room u two. lol

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Good grief. Nobody (except for you just now) said anything about enjoyment, quality of entertainment, or "best". those are subjective to the viewer. The conversation was regarding relative strength of the events, and where they could be ranked, yes, using statistical measures. Because how else would you quantify them?

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And by the way, The PGA Championship IS the strongest field in golf. Year in and year out. The PGA Tour's claim is directly attributed to its ongoing war to make it "the fifth Major". Sure it's the strongest non Major field (usually) but often times The Open Championship is stronger, field wise. And the Masters? The tradition unlike any other? The one that everyone wants to win? Weakest field of the Majors and even weaker than some WGC, but it's regarded as the "best". There's nothing wrong with that, because it's subjective.

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Ranking events based on strength of field was not how this discussion started. It was rankings of events based on someone's opinion. You introduced the strength of field metric for the basis of YOUR point to the discussion so maybe read it again before you "roll your eyes" at what I've said.

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And as far as The Masters goes, it's not "the" one major everyone wants to win. There's plenty of players out there that put The Open on the top of the "if I could win one major" list or the US Open. The Masters would have you believe it's always them on the top of that list, but just because they say it's true, doesn't mean it is.

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I didn't roll my eyes. You keep making things up. But its cool. See ya around

I didn't think you'd bother checking your facts so I'm not surprised you've become dismissive. Cheers.

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get a room u two. lol

Lol!
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I'm not his type.

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Lol, Vin Dieseldog!

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Cheers ; )

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Taco Tuesday, spring greens, nice and snappy. Not really spring yet though. But there is some melting!

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Peace out!

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A major is a major an Players aint a major. But it is one of the top-two tournaments in the world played on the same course annually. Very arguably the best. The finishing holes on a course should be great and the finishing holes at Sawgrass are great.

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The Heritage is a better tournament on a better Dye course imho, also Crans, difference is just money.

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A major is a major an Players aint a major. But it is one of the top-two tournaments in the world played on the same course annually. Very arguably the best. The finishing holes on a course should be great and the finishing holes at Sawgrass are great.

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The Heritage is a better tournament on a better Dye course imho, also Crans, difference is just money.

And money means field. I agree that Crans is spectacular and maybe the only mastership course with no yawn holes back 9, also in a crazy beautiful landscape, but the field isnt simply top notch. Quail Hollow is another example.One that really gets an all-the-best field and is played on a super course is Memorial. Austin CC for the match play was a happy surprise. But I do not like East Lake, especially since they swapped the out-in.

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A major is a major an Players aint a major. But it is one of the top-two tournaments in the world played on the same course annually. Very arguably the best. The finishing holes on a course should be great and the finishing holes at Sawgrass are great.

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The Heritage is a better tournament on a better Dye course imho, also Crans, difference is just money.

And money means field. I agree that Crans is spectacular and maybe the only mastership course with no yawn holes back 9, also in a crazy beautiful landscape, but the field isnt simply top notch. Quail Hollow is another example.One that really gets an all-the-best field and is played on a super course is Memorial. Austin CC for the match play was a happy surprise. But I do not like East Lake, especially since they swapped the out-in.

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It's a vicious circle ;)

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hal sutton beat jack to win a major and tiger to win a players. pretty impressive.

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A major is a major an Players aint a major. But it is one of the top-two tournaments in the world played on the same course annually. Very arguably the best. The finishing holes on a course should be great and the finishing holes at Sawgrass are great.

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The Heritage is a better tournament on a better Dye course imho, also Crans, difference is just money.

And money means field. I agree that Crans is spectacular and maybe the only mastership course with no yawn holes back 9, also in a crazy beautiful landscape, but the field isnt simply top notch. Quail Hollow is another example.One that really gets an all-the-best field and is played on a super course is Memorial. Austin CC for the match play was a happy surprise. But I do not like East Lake, especially since they swapped the out-in.

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It sure does. Money brings the top players to the field, beating the top players will legitimize the win, and for most events increase the OWGR points that come with it. Maybe a little sad, but it is what it is. The FedEx Cup purse sparked many of the top ET players to take up their PGA Tour Card, and it wasn't because of the courses.

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I'll miss Friday being away with work but looking forward to some decent viewing over the weekend.

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Got to think that the course sets up well for someone like JT given where he is in performance rankings at the moment. He would have had a couple of wins already this season if a balky putter hadn't appeared in the final rounds at Phoenix and LA.

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