What up with Jordan?

[Titleist_PT23]

Pretty cool. I like him a bit more and hope he'll be in contention next week.

 

His comments about the putting setup are consistent with what he said last year. This then went into his full swing and everything fell apart then. Bottom line, his game sucked then his head started to hurt. Not the other way around.

[bladehunter]

Great listen ! Anyone who is a fan or not can learn a few things about topics that are discussed here often by listening to that.

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I think he got a bad fitting at club champion, seems to be a lot of that going around

[MilkyButterCuts]

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[Shilgy]

> @tsecor said:

> I think he bounces back at the Masters.

 

And I think he gets bounced. Should be fun to watch either way.

[tsecor]

friendly wager? > @Shilgy said:

> > @tsecor said:

> > I think he bounces back at the Masters.

>

> And I think he gets bounced. Should be fun to watch either way.

 

 

[Shilgy]

> @tsecor said:

> friendly wager? > @Shilgy said:

> > > @tsecor said:

> > > I think he bounces back at the Masters.

> >

> > And I think he gets bounced. Should be fun to watch either way.

>

>

 

Sure-I will bet you 10 likes lol.

[tsecor]

sounds good....lol....> @Shilgy said:

> > @tsecor said:

> > friendly wager? > @Shilgy said:

> > > > @tsecor said:

> > > > I think he bounces back at the Masters.

> > >

> > > And I think he gets bounced. Should be fun to watch either way.

> >

> >

>

> Sure-I will bet you 10 likes lol.

 

 

[bscinstnct]

> @tsecor said:

> I think he bounces back at the Masters.

Hope so but

If he dunks one in Rae's

He might just jump in.

 

 

 

[MilkyButterCuts]

Wow that NLU podcast was so good. I miss YJS.

 

Come back to us!

[masamitsu]

Agree the NLU podcast was awesome. It shed a lot of light on his struggles and probably something we can all relate to.. just not to that degree and on that stage. I'm rooting for him in Augusta.

[MilkyButterCuts]

he's got to be _one of_ the most likable guys to ever come on tour.

[Strategery]

I'm thinking Jordan made a deal with the devil in holing so many long putts. He does nothing else well and his swing sucks. Devil backed out of the deal and is looking to sponsor somebody new.

[straightshot7]

> @MilkyButterCuts said:

> he's got to be _one of_ the most likable guys to ever come on tour.

 

He's definitely in the top 5,000 all time.

[Socrates]

Just checking back in to see if people are still talking about Jordan.

[bladehunter]

> @MilkyButterCuts said:

> he's got to be _one of_ the most likable guys to ever come on tour.

 

Going to be fun when the slump is over.

[straightshot7]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @MilkyButterCuts said:

> > he's got to be _one of_ the most likable guys to ever come on tour.

>

> Going to be fun when the slump is over.

 

We're approaching 2 years without a win (last win 7/23/17).

 

This year he appears to be regressing: T55, CUT, CUT, T35, T45, T51, T54, CUT, T24

 

How much time has to pass before it's considered worse than just a slump? Asking for a friend.

[bladehunter]

> @straightshot7 said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @MilkyButterCuts said:

> > > he's got to be _one of_ the most likable guys to ever come on tour.

> >

> > Going to be fun when the slump is over.

>

> We're approaching 2 years without a win (last win 7/23/17).

>

> This year he appears to be regressing: T55, CUT, CUT, T35, T45, T51, T54, CUT, T24

>

> How much time has to pass before it's considered worse than just a slump? Asking for a friend.

 

No real need for a rundown of the slump. We’re all well aware of its details.

 

The answer will come. All in due time.

[straightshot7]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @straightshot7 said:

> > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > @MilkyButterCuts said:

> > > > he's got to be _one of_ the most likable guys to ever come on tour.

> > >

> > > Going to be fun when the slump is over.

> >

> > We're approaching 2 years without a win (last win 7/23/17).

> >

> > This year he appears to be regressing: T55, CUT, CUT, T35, T45, T51, T54, CUT, T24

> >

> > How much time has to pass before it's considered worse than just a slump? Asking for a friend.

>

> No real need for a rundown of the slump. We’re all well aware of its details.

>

> The answer will come. All in due time.

 

I wasn't aware of his poor performance this year until I looked it up...I would have thought he had at least one top 20.

 

Either way, I don't think it's accurate to call it a slump. A slump implies nothing is wrong. A slump is when a good MLB hitter goes 10 games without a hit but we all know they will turn it around and they do.

 

Jordan not winning in almost 2 years is just him not being good enough to win. There's a definite cause to it and it's evident in all of his stats. I believe he will turn it around and win again but it's not really fair to diminish it when we bash other players for not winning for long periods of time.

 

 

[Titleist_PT23]

I think a legitimate question is will he get to 5 majors and 20 wins. For those that think he'll be back as good as before (not saying 2015 pace), that should be doable (majors maybe less so). For those that think he was a 3 year wonder, that would be nearly impossible to reach.

 

I don't think anyone would bet serious money he won't win again, will be 100 on the money list etc for next 10 years.

 

Would be interesting to see how the bets lined up...

 

 

[bladehunter]

> @straightshot7 said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > @MilkyButterCuts said:

> > > > > he's got to be _one of_ the most likable guys to ever come on tour.

> > > >

> > > > Going to be fun when the slump is over.

> > >

> > > We're approaching 2 years without a win (last win 7/23/17).

> > >

> > > This year he appears to be regressing: T55, CUT, CUT, T35, T45, T51, T54, CUT, T24

> > >

> > > How much time has to pass before it's considered worse than just a slump? Asking for a friend.

> >

> > No real need for a rundown of the slump. We’re all well aware of its details.

> >

> > The answer will come. All in due time.

>

> I wasn't aware of his poor performance this year until I looked it up...I would have thought he had at least one top 20.

>

> Either way, I don't think it's accurate to call it a slump. A slump implies nothing is wrong. A slump is when a good MLB hitter goes 10 games without a hit but we all know they will turn it around and they do.

>

> Jordan not winning in almost 2 years is just him not being good enough to win. There's a definite cause to it and it's evident in all of his stats. I believe he will turn it around and win again but it's not really fair to diminish it when we bash other players for not winning for long periods of time.

>

>

 

Yep. Dominant players of every sport since say age 14 routinely forget how to play and realize they were just never really good enough and all their USga am titles , ncaa champs , 3 majors , masters birdie record , tie masters low score record , and on and on. Yep. All flukes. Time to go sleep it off. Loll

 

 

[Shilgy]

This conversation could have been about Arnie, Watson, Seve and, maybe, Tiger. Granted it's about Spieth at a younger age but it does happen. The players mentioned won their last major in their early 30's and no one would have believed it at the time.

Ralph Guldahl was YJS before Spieth was a twinkle in Grandpa's eye. At the age of 29 he had 16 wins and 3 majors including back to back US Opens.

Guess what his career totals are...16&3. So it does happen.

[bladehunter]

> @Shilgy said:

> This conversation could have been about Arnie, Watson, Seve and, maybe, Tiger. Granted it's about Spieth at a younger age but it does happen. The players mentioned won their last major in their early 30's and no one would have believed it at the time.

> Ralph Guldahl was YJS before Spieth was a twinkle in Grandpa's eye. At the age of 29 he had 16 wins and 3 majors including back to back US Opens.

> Guess what his career totals are...16&3. So it does happen.

 

Sure. Never said it didn’t. What I said was talent doesn’t just leave. “Want to “ maybe ( see Rory ). But also see Rory it can be rekindled.

 

This idea of “ this isn’t a slump he’s just never been good enough “ is pure lunacy of you look at the resume.

[Shilgy]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @Shilgy said:

> > This conversation could have been about Arnie, Watson, Seve and, maybe, Tiger. Granted it's about Spieth at a younger age but it does happen. The players mentioned won their last major in their early 30's and no one would have believed it at the time.

> > Ralph Guldahl was YJS before Spieth was a twinkle in Grandpa's eye. At the age of 29 he had 16 wins and 3 majors including back to back US Opens.

> > Guess what his career totals are...16&3. So it does happen.

>

> Sure. Never said it didn’t. What I said was talent doesn’t just leave. “Want to “ maybe ( see Rory ). But also see Rory it can be rekindled.

>

> This idea of “ this isn’t a slump he’s just never been good enough “ is pure lunacy of you look at the resume.

 

Luckily I'm not a lunatic as I've never said he never was good enough. But he has lost "it". That confidence needed to hit the shot at the big moment.

Will he get it back?

 

Who knows is the only correct answer.

[Cool Runnings]

I think this is my first post I’ve flat-out agreed with you on something. I guess miracles do happen! ;)

 

It’s certainly been a humbling past 2 years for Jordan, and he’s had to strip things back mentally and technically and re-learn how he use to do things naturally, and why they worked in the first place. There is a danger all this extra analysis (even for a heavy thinking Jordan) might create some additional paralysis. I expect / hope Spieth at some point this year to start contending again, but I’ve still got my doubts he’ll ever find his way out back to the worlds top 3 players.

 

> @straightshot7 said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > @MilkyButterCuts said:

> > > > > he's got to be _one of_ the most likable guys to ever come on tour.

> > > >

> > > > Going to be fun when the slump is over.

> > >

> > > We're approaching 2 years without a win (last win 7/23/17).

> > >

> > > This year he appears to be regressing: T55, CUT, CUT, T35, T45, T51, T54, CUT, T24

> > >

> > > How much time has to pass before it's considered worse than just a slump? Asking for a friend.

> >

> > No real need for a rundown of the slump. We’re all well aware of its details.

> >

> > The answer will come. All in due time.

>

> I wasn't aware of his poor performance this year until I looked it up...I would have thought he had at least one top 20.

>

> Either way, I don't think it's accurate to call it a slump. A slump implies nothing is wrong. A slump is when a good MLB hitter goes 10 games without a hit but we all know they will turn it around and they do.

>

> Jordan not winning in almost 2 years is just him not being good enough to win. There's a definite cause to it and it's evident in all of his stats. I believe he will turn it around and win again but it's not really fair to diminish it when we bash other players for not winning for long periods of time.

>

>

 

 

[bladehunter]

> @Shilgy said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @Shilgy said:

> > > This conversation could have been about Arnie, Watson, Seve and, maybe, Tiger. Granted it's about Spieth at a younger age but it does happen. The players mentioned won their last major in their early 30's and no one would have believed it at the time.

> > > Ralph Guldahl was YJS before Spieth was a twinkle in Grandpa's eye. At the age of 29 he had 16 wins and 3 majors including back to back US Opens.

> > > Guess what his career totals are...16&3. So it does happen.

> >

> > Sure. Never said it didn’t. What I said was talent doesn’t just leave. “Want to “ maybe ( see Rory ). But also see Rory it can be rekindled.

> >

> > This idea of “ this isn’t a slump he’s just never been good enough “ is pure lunacy of you look at the resume.

>

> Luckily I'm not a lunatic as I've never said he never was good enough. But he has lost "it". That confidence needed to hit the shot at the big moment.

> Will he get it back?

>

> Who knows is the only correct answer.

 

Sure. So we agree. He’s in a slump. Lol. I’m not sure why anyone would disagree with that idea. It’s simply a term to describe someone who is down who was once up. That’s all.

 

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[WidespreadPanic]

Everyone wondering about (Y)JS’s game should listen to his NoLayingUp podcast. Whether you believe what he says about having figured out how to fix his problems, it’s a good listen and he gives great insight into his game.

[pendodave]

> @WidespreadPanic said:

> Everyone wondering about (Y)JS’s game should listen to his NoLayingUp podcast. Whether you believe what he says about having figured out how to fix his problems, it’s a good listen and he gives great insight into his game.

 

I listened to it and it sounded like a guy trying to talk his way into a game!

It's really interesting though, a little bit 'stream of consciousness'. Would be good if someone qualified in shrinkage gave a breakdown of his state of mind.

"Tell me about your childhood...."

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmGxh1FhtxE](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmGxh1FhtxE "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmGxh1FhtxE")

[tsecor]

When Spieth first came onto the scene, he was killing it and winning quite often. Then it seemed he became slightly arrogant to me. Not saying he definitely was, but a few things kind of gave me that opinion. It seems a lot of superstars struggle with balancing their superstar status and winning consistently.....unless you are Tiger. Rory is a great example of this. 4 majors at a very early age and then he went into a few slumps....but a lot of these guys are doing talk shows, podcasts and trying to balance all the public stuff with the golf. It must be very hard. That being said, I saw Spieths video with the child who has had cancer twice and it was heartwarming and beautiful. The kid used Jordans putter and drained one and Spieth says "I could use some of that magic in this putter" He made a few references to his game struggles and then gave the kid his personal number so they could play a round of golf at some point. It was really nice and showed you Spieths true nature. I am pulling for him and I think some good karma is headed his way. Id like to see Spieth in Rory in the final pairing next week.

[gvogel]

> @Shilgy said:

> This conversation could have been about Arnie, Watson, Seve and, maybe, Tiger. Granted it's about Spieth at a younger age but it does happen. The players mentioned won their last major in their early 30's and no one would have believed it at the time.

> Ralph Guldahl was YJS before Spieth was a twinkle in Grandpa's eye. At the age of 29 he had 16 wins and 3 majors including back to back US Opens.

> Guess what his career totals are...16&3. So it does happen.

 

Ralph Guldahl is said to have lost his game when he dissected his swing to write a book. He started playing golf swing instead of golf.

That could be Jordan's problem.