2019 Masters Tournament hosted by ANGC (merged)

[MilkyButterCuts]

> @Christosterone said:

> 2006 Open Championship was the greatest golf I’ve ever seen...

>

> http://youtu.be/CNKx_am69dU

>

> -Chris

 

Every time I watch that one it gives me chills. It's so cool to go inside his mind and hear his perspective. I love that series more than words can describe. They are SO WELL put together, it blows my mind.

 

Edit: Especially if you've been to Scotland and played links golf or even St Andrews.

[MilkyButterCuts]

> @gatorMD said:

> The ladies only play ANGc the final day. What a rip off lol.

 

Agree. They should have done it AFTER the masters and made the entire tournament there.

[BlackM00Nlight]

Can’t wait for Masters week! So stoked

[deadsolid...shank]

> @BlackM00Nlight said:

> Can’t wait for Masters week! So stoked

 

What are you doing here Moonlight, don’t you still have unfinished business over in the Dell Technology Match Play thread!??

 

 

[BlackM00Nlight]

> @"deadsolid...shank" said:

> > @BlackM00Nlight said:

> > Can’t wait for Masters week! So stoked

>

> What are you doing here Moonlight, don’t you still have unfinished business over in the Dell Technology Match Play thread!??

>

>

???‍♂️??‍♂️

 

[BlackM00Nlight]

I’ve been here a few times ;)

[Roadking2003]

Another very interesting stat;

 

TOP 10s

22, Jack Nicklaus

17, Ben Hogan

15, Gary Player

15, Sam Snead

15, Tom Watson

15, Phil Mickelson

14, Byron Nelson

[Hawkeye77]

> @Roadking2003 said:

> Another very interesting stat;

>

> TOP 10s

> 22, Jack Nicklaus

> 17, Ben Hogan

> 15, Gary Player

> 15, Sam Snead

> 15, Tom Watson

> 15, Phil Mickelson

> 14, Byron Nelson

 

Somebody isn't in there!

[BlackM00Nlight]

Tiger has 13 top 10’s with 3 missed events throughout his career from injury.

[Hawkeye77]

Wow, Jack had 17 by age 43 (and a big bunch of wins) including a 7th place as an am. Pretty salty. Nothing against anyone else, that's just pretty salty.

[cougarthesecond]

Not too far off topic but Peter Kessler is BY FAR the most entertaining golf follow on Twitter. Right now he is running some really cool stuff with the Masters and Jack Nicklaus. I have read here that some CANT STAND THAT EGOTISTICAL, SELF-CENTERED Kessler. That's part of his schtick...think of him as a golf version of Stephen A. but with some game. Kessler can back it up.

[Hawkeye77]

> @cougarthesecond said:

> Not too far off topic but Peter Kessler is BY FAR the most entertaining golf follow on Twitter. Right now he is running some really cool stuff with the Masters and Jack Nicklaus. I have read here that some CANT STAND THAT EGOTISTICAL, SELF-CENTERED Kessler. That's part of his schtick...think of him as a golf version of Stephen A. but with some game. Kessler can back it up.

 

As long as he doesn't fall too far off the wagon!

[Golfnutgalen]

> @Roadking2003 said:

> Another very interesting stat;

>

> TOP 10s

> 22, Jack Nicklaus

> 17, Ben Hogan

> 15, Gary Player

> 15, Sam Snead

> 15, Tom Watson

> 15, Phil Mickelson

> 14, Byron Nelson

 

Let's make this a bit more comparable. Woods has played in 21 Masters and finished in the top 10 13 times or 61.9% of the time. Jack played in 24 by age 42 with 17 top 10s or 70.8%. Both of those figures are dwarfed by Hogan who debuted with a T25 and then reeled off 14 straight top 10s from 1939-1956 (age 26 - 43) missing out on 3 war years. In Hogan's case none of those events had a cut which was introduced the following year in 1957. Byron Nelson's 13/14 from 1935-1951 is insane as well.

 

I'm surprised that Arnie isn't in that list. He top 10'd every year except for one 12 times total from 1955-1967 (age 25- 37) missed the cut the following year and never contended again.

 

[bscinstnct]

> @Golfnutgalen said:

> > @Roadking2003 said:

> > Another very interesting stat;

> >

> > TOP 10s

> > 22, Jack Nicklaus

> > 17, Ben Hogan

> > 15, Gary Player

> > 15, Sam Snead

> > 15, Tom Watson

> > 15, Phil Mickelson

> > 14, Byron Nelson

>

> Let's make this a bit more comparable. Woods has played in 21 Masters and finished in the top 10 13 times or 61.9% of the time. Jack played in 24 by age 42 with 17 top 10s or 70.8%. Both of those figures are dwarfed by Hogan who debuted with a T25 and then reeled off 14 straight top 10s from 1939-1956 (age 26 - 43) missing out on 3 war years. In Hogan's case none of those events had a cut which was introduced the following year in 1957. Byron Nelson's 13/14 from 1935-1951 is insane as well.

>

> I'm surprised that Arnie isn't in that list. He top 10'd every year except for one 12 times total from 1955-1967 (age 25- 37) missed the cut the following year and never contended again.

>

 

The less deep the fields are

The more 2nds/top 5s the best guys will get. No surprise nearly all the guys with the most 2nds played so many decades ago.

[cougarthesecond]

And he's replaying some of the interviews he did with Nicklaus re: the Masters. Does GC even show Kessler stuff since he got the axe?

 

[Hawkeye77]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > Another very interesting stat;

> > >

> > > TOP 10s

> > > 22, Jack Nicklaus

> > > 17, Ben Hogan

> > > 15, Gary Player

> > > 15, Sam Snead

> > > 15, Tom Watson

> > > 15, Phil Mickelson

> > > 14, Byron Nelson

> >

> > Let's make this a bit more comparable. Woods has played in 21 Masters and finished in the top 10 13 times or 61.9% of the time. Jack played in 24 by age 42 with 17 top 10s or 70.8%. Both of those figures are dwarfed by Hogan who debuted with a T25 and then reeled off 14 straight top 10s from 1939-1956 (age 26 - 43) missing out on 3 war years. In Hogan's case none of those events had a cut which was introduced the following year in 1957. Byron Nelson's 13/14 from 1935-1951 is insane as well.

> >

> > I'm surprised that Arnie isn't in that list. He top 10'd every year except for one 12 times total from 1955-1967 (age 25- 37) missed the cut the following year and never contended again.

> >

>

> The less deep the fields are

> The more 2nds/top 5s the best guys will get. No surprise nearly all the guys with the most 2nds played so many decades ago.

 

Hmmmmm, I’m engaging in a little find my filter time so I’m not touching that!

 

Get to play Friday - focusing on that, then I’m Augusta 24/7/9!

 

[Golfnutgalen]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > Another very interesting stat;

> > >

> > > TOP 10s

> > > 22, Jack Nicklaus

> > > 17, Ben Hogan

> > > 15, Gary Player

> > > 15, Sam Snead

> > > 15, Tom Watson

> > > 15, Phil Mickelson

> > > 14, Byron Nelson

> >

> > Let's make this a bit more comparable. Woods has played in 21 Masters and finished in the top 10 13 times or 61.9% of the time. Jack played in 24 by age 42 with 17 top 10s or 70.8%. Both of those figures are dwarfed by Hogan who debuted with a T25 and then reeled off 14 straight top 10s from 1939-1956 (age 26 - 43) missing out on 3 war years. In Hogan's case none of those events had a cut which was introduced the following year in 1957. Byron Nelson's 13/14 from 1935-1951 is insane as well.

> >

> > I'm surprised that Arnie isn't in that list. He top 10'd every year except for one 12 times total from 1955-1967 (age 25- 37) missed the cut the following year and never contended again.

> >

>

> The less deep the fields are

> The more 2nds/top 5s the best guys will get. No surprise nearly all the guys with the most 2nds played so many decades ago.

I don't disagree with you. Also those early Masters had far fewer competitors in the field usually between 40 and 70 which explains why there was not cut line. Then again there is also the situation where a course is just perfect for a certain player, even today Jordan Spieth has had only one finish outside of the top 3 in 4 starts.

[jmvargas]

the Masters has the weakest field among the 4 majors but seems the one most pros want to win..

 

why?

[mukster]

> @jmvargas said:

> the Masters has the weakest field among the 4 majors but seems the one most pros want to win..

>

> why?

 

Possibly because it has the weakest field, easier to win :smiley: :smiley:

[OrangeGravy]

> @legitimategolf said:

>

 

I think Mike Stone loves a lot more than just the Masters

[PZero]

> @jmvargas said:

> the Masters has the weakest field among the 4 majors but seems the one most pros want to win..

>

> why?

 

Money.

 

A Masters win is worth at least $13 Million in endorsements, more than any other major.

[Hankshank]

> @Hawkeye77 said:

> > @Hankshank said:

> > Any plans for the 17th hole? The second last hole shouldn't be the one most commonly ranked lowest. The Eisenhower Tree made it at least nice to look at. Really, the party is kind of over after the 16th. I have never understood why Jones didn't make anything about it when it was decided to swap in-out. Holes designed to be finale is probably not designed like holes to be somewhere in the middle. Last holes should be top ranked holes.

>

> 17 and 18 hardly birdie fests, lol, especially on Sunday. Having seen them both, I think 18 is a far superior finishing hole than 9. Sometimes I think folks find out they switched the nines and just want to make more out of it than is is - good-bye Amen corner, good-bye Sunday back nine charges, etc.

>

> I know you are talking about 17 and 18 specifically, but still, you think the 17th green Sunday placement is a piece of cake? You think that hole isn't a tough hole to consistently play well, taking green and surroundings, etc. into consideration? I think it doesn't get enough credit.

>

> No right or wrong answers on design discussion, but curious where you are coming from other than "ranking".

>

18 can be debated, for sure, some people like it, I don't. But as for 17, it gets constantly low ratings, and apart from that it is also my impression. It is basically a putting competition. No matter where the tee shot lands, guys seem to get on the right or wrong side of ridges and nooks on the green. And it is plain not very nice to look at.

Thing is, 10-13 and 15-16 are epic holes, each with their own history, Phil from the needles in the wood, Spieth in the creek, Larry Mize jumping around, The Shot that was heard all over the world and what not. And last two holes does not create anything of this really. Ok, on the green you will se happy faces of Nicklaus with his tounge out, and of course guys will be happy if they win masters, but no excitement is really up to the design of the holes. They are not bad holes. And not easy holes. But last two holes on the course of the greatest club in the world with a tournament played annually deserve holes that create history due to the design of the holes. Or at least have some visual grandeur. Granted, they might be nice to play for members, 350 and 375 sounds pretty reachable for the average member, supposedly with the same ability as mine to get distance from the tee. And 17 maybe gives fewer problems now that that infamous tree is gone. So supposedly its the way they want it.

 

But from a TV spectators view I have never heard a comment about 17 or 18 that even remotely compares to the comments about the more epic holes. Sawgrass have their stock holes on 14 and 15, seems more fitting.

[gatorpedsMD]

> @Hawkeye77 said:

> > @bscinstnct said:

> > > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > Another very interesting stat;

> > > >

> > > > TOP 10s

> > > > 22, Jack Nicklaus

> > > > 17, Ben Hogan

> > > > 15, Gary Player

> > > > 15, Sam Snead

> > > > 15, Tom Watson

> > > > 15, Phil Mickelson

> > > > 14, Byron Nelson

> > >

> > > Let's make this a bit more comparable. Woods has played in 21 Masters and finished in the top 10 13 times or 61.9% of the time. Jack played in 24 by age 42 with 17 top 10s or 70.8%. Both of those figures are dwarfed by Hogan who debuted with a T25 and then reeled off 14 straight top 10s from 1939-1956 (age 26 - 43) missing out on 3 war years. In Hogan's case none of those events had a cut which was introduced the following year in 1957. Byron Nelson's 13/14 from 1935-1951 is insane as well.

> > >

> > > I'm surprised that Arnie isn't in that list. He top 10'd every year except for one 12 times total from 1955-1967 (age 25- 37) missed the cut the following year and never contended again.

> > >

> >

> > The less deep the fields are

> > The more 2nds/top 5s the best guys will get. No surprise nearly all the guys with the most 2nds played so many decades ago.

>

> Hmmmmm, I’m engaging in a little find my filter time so I’m not touching that!

>

> Get to play Friday - focusing on that, then I’m Augusta 24/7/9!

>

NEVER FORGET WHEN THE GOAT GOATED ANGC!

 

[beluga99]

> @PZero said:

> > @jmvargas said:

> > the Masters has the weakest field among the 4 majors but seems the one most pros want to win..

> >

> > why?

>

> Money.

>

> A Masters win is worth at least $13 Million in endorsements, more than any other major.

 

Because it's a tradition like no other?

[gatorpedsMD]

 

[Rangeballz]

> @gatorMD said:

> why doesn't agusta host any USGA events? Like a 4ball or mid am?

 

Despite the fact that the course is closed and the fact that ANGC has zero interest in hosting anything but their events, imagine if you will Mike Davis attempting to "prep" AN for a USGA event. I suspect Fred Ridley would have him removed from the grounds and banned for life.

[Roadking2003]

Another interesting stat;

TOP 5s

15, Jack Nicklaus

11, Tiger Woods

11, Phil Mickelson

9, Ben Hogan

9, Tom Kite

9, Arnold Palmer

9, Sam Snead

9, Tom Watson

 

[Roadking2003]

And another interesting stat;

**Most birdies in a tournament**

28 Jordan Spieth, 2015

25 Phil Mickelson, 2001

24 Jose Maria Olazabal, 1991

24 Tiger Woods, 2005

24 Justin Rose, 2015

[pheenomz4774]

> @Roadking2003 said:

> And another interesting stat;

> **Most birdies in a tournament**

> 28 Jordan Spieth, 2015

> 25 Phil Mickelson, 2001

> 24 Jose Maria Olazabal, 1991

> 24 Tiger Woods, 2005

> 24 Justin Rose, 2015

 

Phil 25 birdies and didn't win that year. What a 2001 with Phil, Duval, and Tiger down the home stretch. What would be this years equivalent of that? Rory, Jordan, and DJ all within 1 as they start Amen Corner?

Edit: I am implying non-Tiger edition as we saw him and Phil in it in 2001

[bscinstnct]

> @gatorMD said:

> > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > @bscinstnct said:

> > > > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > > > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > > > Another very interesting stat;

> > > > >

> > > > > TOP 10s

> > > > > 22, Jack Nicklaus

> > > > > 17, Ben Hogan

> > > > > 15, Gary Player

> > > > > 15, Sam Snead

> > > > > 15, Tom Watson

> > > > > 15, Phil Mickelson

> > > > > 14, Byron Nelson

> > > >

> > > > Let's make this a bit more comparable. Woods has played in 21 Masters and finished in the top 10 13 times or 61.9% of the time. Jack played in 24 by age 42 with 17 top 10s or 70.8%. Both of those figures are dwarfed by Hogan who debuted with a T25 and then reeled off 14 straight top 10s from 1939-1956 (age 26 - 43) missing out on 3 war years. In Hogan's case none of those events had a cut which was introduced the following year in 1957. Byron Nelson's 13/14 from 1935-1951 is insane as well.

> > > >

> > > > I'm surprised that Arnie isn't in that list. He top 10'd every year except for one 12 times total from 1955-1967 (age 25- 37) missed the cut the following year and never contended again.

> > > >

> > >

> > > The less deep the fields are

> > > The more 2nds/top 5s the best guys will get. No surprise nearly all the guys with the most 2nds played so many decades ago.

> >

> > Hmmmmm, I’m engaging in a little find my filter time so I’m not touching that!

> >

> > Get to play Friday - focusing on that, then I’m Augusta 24/7/9!

> >

> NEVER FORGET WHEN THE GOAT GOATED ANGC!

>

>

 

TW largest margin of victory (12 strokes!), youngest to win, lowest score to par, -18, (tied with YJS)