USGA? Teen DQ'd from Sectional for going to the bathroom before turning in his scorecard

[dcmidnight]

No.

 

The kid didn't just use the bathroom. He already admitted he walked to his car to get his migraine medication for his very serious migraine. Then he went to use the bathroom. Then he went outside to check out the main scoreboard and see how he was doing. Which is a really odd thing for the kid to say considering he never turned in his card, how would they have a score for me if my scorecard is in my pocket. But only when he finally went to check out the scoreboard did he see that his name was marked "NC".

 

And then he finally decided to go to the scorers area.

 

So, much like most of the misleading headlines, the kid didnt just run to the bathroom and then run right back to the scorers area and they DQd this poor little kid for taking a quick leak.

[Hawkeye77]

> @dcmidnight said:

> No.

>

> The kid didn't just use the bathroom. He already admitted he walked to his car to get his migraine medication for his very serious migraine. Then he went to use the bathroom. Then he went outside to check out the main scoreboard and see how he was doing. Which is a really odd thing for the kid to say considering he never turned in his card, how would they have a score for me if my scorecard is in my pocket. But only when he finally went to check out the scoreboard did he see that his name was marked "NC".

>

> And then he finally decided to go to the scorers area.

>

> So, much like most of the misleading headlines, the kid didnt just run to the bathroom and then run right back to the scorers area and they DQd this poor little kid for taking a quick leak.

 

Pretty much this.

 

The rest of this thread unfortunately seems to be typical USGA attacks or "it's a kid, come on" stuff and just nothing but on and on about nothing just for the sake of typing by the OP.

 

Complain about the USGA all you want for stuff that it deserves, but hardly this. You'd think between the dad and the coach micro-managing his day they could have reminded him he needed to sign/turn in a card - he blew it off and he's out.

[North Texas]

> @Hawkeye77 said:

> > @dcmidnight said:

> > No.

> >

> > The kid didn't just use the bathroom. He already admitted he walked to his car to get his migraine medication for his very serious migraine. Then he went to use the bathroom. Then he went outside to check out the main scoreboard and see how he was doing. Which is a really odd thing for the kid to say considering he never turned in his card, how would they have a score for me if my scorecard is in my pocket. But only when he finally went to check out the scoreboard did he see that his name was marked "NC".

> >

> > And then he finally decided to go to the scorers area.

> >

> > So, much like most of the misleading headlines, the kid didnt just run to the bathroom and then run right back to the scorers area and they DQd this poor little kid for taking a quick leak.

>

> Pretty much this.

>

> The rest of this thread unfortunately seems to be typical USGA attacks or "it's a kid, come on" stuff and just nothing but on and on about nothing just for the sake of typing by the OP.

>

> Complain about the USGA all you want for stuff that it deserves, but hardly this. You'd think between the dad and the coach micro-managing his day they could have reminded him he needed to sign/turn in a card - he blew it off and he's out.

 

Look, the USGA absolutely has messed things up before and they will again. No question. But, yea, every time something likes this comes up, you get your typical USGA attacks. And, by typical, I mean embellished to varying degrees including outright making things up. And this thread is a perfect example of that. Some people will just find fault with the USGA, even if they did nothing wrong.

[widow-maker]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @widow-maker said:

> > > @RobertBaron said:

> > > USGA really needs to get tighter with their wording. “Promptly” is freaking meaningless. What is that? 30 seconds? 1 minute? 10? Just make it specific. Like 10 minutes from hole out or something.

> >

> > Promptly means that you walk off the 18th green, go to the scorer's table and take care of your business. The round isn't over until the scorecards have been signed. If he walked off the 15th green and went missing for 10-15 minutes without saying anything to his competitors what would you think about that? If you've got a good reason for not going directly to the scorer's table, then it's on you to convey it to an official or your playing partners. An emergency bathroom run fits that description, but you can't just disappear for 10-15 minutes as if you're the only one that matters.

> >

> > It's tough because we're getting conflicting stories and the truth is never going to be forthcoming here. But, did the committee have ample reason to assess DQ for a player that disappeared without warning.... absolutely. Blaming the USGA for this infraction is silly. The rule is in place to protect the field and give each player equal consideration. Finish your business then tend to your needs.

>

>

> “ An emergency bathroom run fits that description, but you can't just disappear for 10-15 minutes “

>

> It can’t take 10 minutes to use the bathroom? The kid said he had to use the bathroom.

>

> So you kick him out of the tournament?

>

> What, do they need him to get into details about why it took him 10 minutes?

>

>

> I’m picturing Arnold Palmer disappearing after a round.

>

> “Where’s the King?”

>

> “He’s chatting with that blonde that was following him around all day”

>

> “Oh, ok, grab his card when you see him”

>

>

>

If he had to really make an emergency bathroom trip then he needed to say something to his playing partners. Nobody knew where he was. Then, after the fact, after he was DQ'd, the excuses started coming... bathroom, headache. lunch, scoreboard... whatever. If you want to quibble with the local officials and they called the penalty too soon, I have no problem with that. But, blaming it on the USGA's rule is ridiculous. If the rule wasn't in place, then you'd have the potential for chaos with players eating, showering, practice range and deciding to turn in their scorecards at their own convenience. The rule has a purpose and no serious player has a problem with it.

[bscinstnct]

> @widow-maker said:

> > @bscinstnct said:

> > > @widow-maker said:

> > > > @RobertBaron said:

> > > > USGA really needs to get tighter with their wording. “Promptly” is freaking meaningless. What is that? 30 seconds? 1 minute? 10? Just make it specific. Like 10 minutes from hole out or something.

> > >

> > > Promptly means that you walk off the 18th green, go to the scorer's table and take care of your business. The round isn't over until the scorecards have been signed. If he walked off the 15th green and went missing for 10-15 minutes without saying anything to his competitors what would you think about that? If you've got a good reason for not going directly to the scorer's table, then it's on you to convey it to an official or your playing partners. An emergency bathroom run fits that description, but you can't just disappear for 10-15 minutes as if you're the only one that matters.

> > >

> > > It's tough because we're getting conflicting stories and the truth is never going to be forthcoming here. But, did the committee have ample reason to assess DQ for a player that disappeared without warning.... absolutely. Blaming the USGA for this infraction is silly. The rule is in place to protect the field and give each player equal consideration. Finish your business then tend to your needs.

> >

> >

> > “ An emergency bathroom run fits that description, but you can't just disappear for 10-15 minutes “

> >

> > It can’t take 10 minutes to use the bathroom? The kid said he had to use the bathroom.

> >

> > So you kick him out of the tournament?

> >

> > What, do they need him to get into details about why it took him 10 minutes?

> >

> >

> > I’m picturing Arnold Palmer disappearing after a round.

> >

> > “Where’s the King?”

> >

> > “He’s chatting with that blonde that was following him around all day”

> >

> > “Oh, ok, grab his card when you see him”

> >

> >

> >

> If he had to really make an emergency bathroom trip then he needed to say something to his playing partners. Nobody knew where he was. Then, after the fact, after he was DQ'd, the excuses started coming... bathroom, headache. lunch, scoreboard... whatever. If you want to quibble with the local officials and they called the penalty too soon, I have no problem with that. But, blaming it on the USGA's rule is ridiculous. If the rule wasn't in place, then you'd have the potential for chaos with players eating, showering, practice range and deciding to turn in their scorecards at their own convenience. The rule has a purpose and no serious player has a problem with it.

 

 

Serious player?

 

https://www.timesonline.com/sports/20190408/riversides-skyler-fox-wins-junior-golf-tour-event

 

“Riverside's Skyler Fox won a Hurricane Junior Golf Tour event that was played Saturday and Sunday at Birdsfoot Golf Club in Freeport.

 

Fox, a junior who's won the past three WPIAL Class 2A boys championships, shot a 5-under 139 at the Pittsburgh Junior Challenge to edge Jeffrey Fang of Newmarket, Canada by one stroke.”

 

 

He went to the bathroom. And they kicked him out. And the rule says “promptly” and not “immediately “ just for situations like this. It doesn’t say you must tell someone if you have to go to the bathroom. Lol.

 

[Ashley Schaeffer]

The lesson: under the Rules, one May relieve himself but must make his intent known to a sufficient number of people before doing so. Accordingly, the best practice is to loudly announce one’s need to poop a la a toddler in a restaurant. At the very least, one must tell his daddy USGA that he needs to go poopie. The penalty for breaking this rule is disqualification.

[nsxguy]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @widow-maker said:

> > > @bscinstnct said:

> > > > @widow-maker said:

> > > > > @RobertBaron said:

> > > > > USGA really needs to get tighter with their wording. “Promptly” is freaking meaningless. What is that? 30 seconds? 1 minute? 10? Just make it specific. Like 10 minutes from hole out or something.

> > > >

> > > > Promptly means that you walk off the 18th green, go to the scorer's table and take care of your business. The round isn't over until the scorecards have been signed. If he walked off the 15th green and went missing for 10-15 minutes without saying anything to his competitors what would you think about that? If you've got a good reason for not going directly to the scorer's table, then it's on you to convey it to an official or your playing partners. An emergency bathroom run fits that description, but you can't just disappear for 10-15 minutes as if you're the only one that matters.

> > > >

> > > > It's tough because we're getting conflicting stories and the truth is never going to be forthcoming here. But, did the committee have ample reason to assess DQ for a player that disappeared without warning.... absolutely. Blaming the USGA for this infraction is silly. The rule is in place to protect the field and give each player equal consideration. Finish your business then tend to your needs.

> > >

> > >

> > > “ An emergency bathroom run fits that description, but you can't just disappear for 10-15 minutes “

> > >

> > > It can’t take 10 minutes to use the bathroom? The kid said he had to use the bathroom.

> > >

> > > So you kick him out of the tournament?

> > >

> > > What, do they need him to get into details about why it took him 10 minutes?

> > >

> > >

> > > I’m picturing Arnold Palmer disappearing after a round.

> > >

> > > “Where’s the King?”

> > >

> > > “He’s chatting with that blonde that was following him around all day”

> > >

> > > “Oh, ok, grab his card when you see him”

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > If he had to really make an emergency bathroom trip then he needed to say something to his playing partners. Nobody knew where he was. Then, after the fact, after he was DQ'd, the excuses started coming... bathroom, headache. lunch, scoreboard... whatever. If you want to quibble with the local officials and they called the penalty too soon, I have no problem with that. But, blaming it on the USGA's rule is ridiculous. If the rule wasn't in place, then you'd have the potential for chaos with players eating, showering, practice range and deciding to turn in their scorecards at their own convenience. The rule has a purpose and no serious player has a problem with it.

>

>

> Serious player?

>

> https://www.timesonline.com/sports/20190408/riversides-skyler-fox-wins-junior-golf-tour-event

>

> “Riverside's Skyler Fox won a Hurricane Junior Golf Tour event that was played Saturday and Sunday at Birdsfoot Golf Club in Freeport.

>

> Fox, a junior who's won the past three WPIAL Class 2A boys championships, shot a 5-under 139 at the Pittsburgh Junior Challenge to edge Jeffrey Fang of Newmarket, Canada by one stroke.”

>

>

> He went to the bathroom. And they kicked him out. And the rule says “promptly” and not “immediately “ just for situations like this. It doesn’t say you must tell someone if you have to go to the bathroom. Lol.

>

 

He didn't say the kid wasn't a serious player.

 

"He went to the bathroom and they kicked him out" LMAO

[bscinstnct]

> @nsxguy said:

> > @bscinstnct said:

> > > @widow-maker said:

> > > > @bscinstnct said:

> > > > > @widow-maker said:

> > > > > > @RobertBaron said:

> > > > > > USGA really needs to get tighter with their wording. “Promptly” is freaking meaningless. What is that? 30 seconds? 1 minute? 10? Just make it specific. Like 10 minutes from hole out or something.

> > > > >

> > > > > Promptly means that you walk off the 18th green, go to the scorer's table and take care of your business. The round isn't over until the scorecards have been signed. If he walked off the 15th green and went missing for 10-15 minutes without saying anything to his competitors what would you think about that? If you've got a good reason for not going directly to the scorer's table, then it's on you to convey it to an official or your playing partners. An emergency bathroom run fits that description, but you can't just disappear for 10-15 minutes as if you're the only one that matters.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's tough because we're getting conflicting stories and the truth is never going to be forthcoming here. But, did the committee have ample reason to assess DQ for a player that disappeared without warning.... absolutely. Blaming the USGA for this infraction is silly. The rule is in place to protect the field and give each player equal consideration. Finish your business then tend to your needs.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > “ An emergency bathroom run fits that description, but you can't just disappear for 10-15 minutes “

> > > >

> > > > It can’t take 10 minutes to use the bathroom? The kid said he had to use the bathroom.

> > > >

> > > > So you kick him out of the tournament?

> > > >

> > > > What, do they need him to get into details about why it took him 10 minutes?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I’m picturing Arnold Palmer disappearing after a round.

> > > >

> > > > “Where’s the King?”

> > > >

> > > > “He’s chatting with that blonde that was following him around all day”

> > > >

> > > > “Oh, ok, grab his card when you see him”

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > If he had to really make an emergency bathroom trip then he needed to say something to his playing partners. Nobody knew where he was. Then, after the fact, after he was DQ'd, the excuses started coming... bathroom, headache. lunch, scoreboard... whatever. If you want to quibble with the local officials and they called the penalty too soon, I have no problem with that. But, blaming it on the USGA's rule is ridiculous. If the rule wasn't in place, then you'd have the potential for chaos with players eating, showering, practice range and deciding to turn in their scorecards at their own convenience. The rule has a purpose and no serious player has a problem with it.

> >

> >

> > Serious player?

> >

> > https://www.timesonline.com/sports/20190408/riversides-skyler-fox-wins-junior-golf-tour-event

> >

> > “Riverside's Skyler Fox won a Hurricane Junior Golf Tour event that was played Saturday and Sunday at Birdsfoot Golf Club in Freeport.

> >

> > Fox, a junior who's won the past three WPIAL Class 2A boys championships, shot a 5-under 139 at the Pittsburgh Junior Challenge to edge Jeffrey Fang of Newmarket, Canada by one stroke.”

> >

> >

> > He went to the bathroom. And they kicked him out. And the rule says “promptly” and not “immediately “ just for situations like this. It doesn’t say you must tell someone if you have to go to the bathroom. Lol.

> >

>

> He didn't say the kid wasn't a serious player.

>

> "He went to the bathroom and they kicked him out" LMAO

 

They did , nsx!

 

Kicked him out for going to the bathroom!

 

It’s like the Seinfeld where George is like,

 

“My poor sister died. She was standing and then she was laughing and then they SHOT her! That's the kind of sick city that we're livin' in. They shoot you for laughing.”

 

[bladehunter]

So.... the moral to this story is ...

 

When you have a migraine or bathroom emergency on course. Don’t stick it out and finish. Call an official. Cite the rule. And ask for time to take care of it. Make everybody wait while you go or send someone to get it , and /or go to the head. 15 minutes delay on the back 9 is obviously better for the field than a 10 minute delay in the scoring tent. Per the stated logic.

 

Per rule 5.6 he could ask and get the full 15 minutes during a round for relief from either.

[HitEmTrue]

> @bladehunter said:

> So.... the moral to this story is ...

>

> When you have a migraine or bathroom emergency on course. Don’t stick it out and finish. Call an official. Cite the rule. And ask for time to take care of it. Make everybody wait while you go or send someone to get it , and /or go to the head. 30 minutes delay on the back 9 is obviously better for the field than a 10 minute delay in the scoring tent. Per the stated logic.

 

If he really needed to take care of business before signing the card, he could have done so. It has already been stated that the same exceptions that help the player in that scenario help at the scoring table.

 

But it requires telling someone about. One of the officials seemed to indicate that he could have explained that AFTER getting the table late. Which means he didn’t do that, either.

 

 

[rangersgoalie]

NC

Was changed to DQ

 

He went to the car, went to the bathroom, and then

The player went to the board and saw “NC” ?

His fellow competitors worked out their score on a blank card?

 

Way too many weird parts......

[bscinstnct]

> @HitEmTrue said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > So.... the moral to this story is ...

> >

> > When you have a migraine or bathroom emergency on course. Don’t stick it out and finish. Call an official. Cite the rule. And ask for time to take care of it. Make everybody wait while you go or send someone to get it , and /or go to the head. 30 minutes delay on the back 9 is obviously better for the field than a 10 minute delay in the scoring tent. Per the stated logic.

>

> If he really needed to take care of business before signing the card, he could have done so. It has already been stated that the same exceptions that help the player in that scenario help at the scoring table.

>

> But it requires telling someone about. One of the officials seemed to indicate that he could have explained that AFTER getting the table late. Which means he didn’t do that, either.

>

>

 

So, what did he say? The father said he did say he went to the bathroom. USGS guy said he went to lunch?

 

I think we got some dB officials trying to play hall monitor and refusing to back down.

 

But then again, I had sun, Tito’s, and a beer with a crazy dog on it ; )

 

 

[deadsolid...shank]

> @bladehunter said:

> So.... the moral to this story is ...

>

> When you have a migraine or bathroom emergency on course. Don’t stick it out and finish. Call an official. Cite the rule. And ask for time to take care of it. Make everybody wait while you go or send someone to get it , and /or go to the head. 30 minutes delay on the back 9 is obviously better for the field than a 10 minute delay in the scoring tent. Per the stated logic.

 

C’mon Blade, you’re really reaching there. Honestly, if he had told someone prior, do you think it would have resulted in a DQ? All he had to do was communicate what was going on. No one knew, what were they supposed to do.

 

If one of your employees disappears for 10-15 minutes without telling you, is that OK with you? If you’re waiting for them to deal with a time sensitive issue.

 

[North Texas]

> @rangersgoalie said:

> NC

> Was changed to DQ

>

> He went to the car, went to the bathroom, and then

> The player went to the board and saw “NC” ?

> His fellow competitors worked out their score on a blank card?

>

> Way too many weird parts......

 

Agree, too many weird parts which equals too many unknown parts. And yet, posters on here have all the answers. Never fails.

[bladehunter]

> @"North Texas" said:

> > @rangersgoalie said:

> > NC

> > Was changed to DQ

> >

> > He went to the car, went to the bathroom, and then

> > The player went to the board and saw “NC” ?

> > His fellow competitors worked out their score on a blank card?

> >

> > Way too many weird parts......

>

> Agree, too many weird parts which equals too many unknown parts. And yet, posters on here have all the answers. Never fails.

 

That’s all I’ve said. That everybody has acted in a less than appropriate manner. This story has it all. Even USga opinions from folks who weren’t on property ? It’s nuts.

 

There’s literally no known parts really. Just the incorrect quotes from officials and that the kid left to go retrieve meds and to the bathroom. That’s all we know.

[bladehunter]

> @"deadsolid...shank" said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > So.... the moral to this story is ...

> >

> > When you have a migraine or bathroom emergency on course. Don’t stick it out and finish. Call an official. Cite the rule. And ask for time to take care of it. Make everybody wait while you go or send someone to get it , and /or go to the head. 30 minutes delay on the back 9 is obviously better for the field than a 10 minute delay in the scoring tent. Per the stated logic.

>

> C’mon Blade, you’re really reaching there. Honestly, if he had told someone prior, do you think it would have resulted in a DQ? All he had to do was communicate what was going on. No one knew, what were they supposed to do.

>

> If one of your employees disappears for 10-15 minutes without telling you, is that OK with you? If you’re waiting for them to deal with a time sensitive issue.

>

Maybe ask a question ? It was posted as NC , assumingely to me to signal that player that he needed to do so.when he shows back up they throw the DQ. No quotes from anyone saying they asked anything. Much less “ do you have an issue “ etc. sure. I wish the kid had yelled to high heaven that he was ill. But I know me at 16. Id have just silently took it ( believe it or not ). I didn’t gain a voice until at least age 21-22. Which is another side topic. But short version is that most adults listen very little. Give them some authority and they listen less.

Not reaching. Rule 5.6 says you can ask and get time for treatment or relief.

 

Far as my kids go ( which is what I usually call my employees as most are 16-21) You’d be hard pressed to find one the would tell you I didn’t listen to them. Sure I’d question them. But a simple “ man I had to go “ and I don’t want to hear anymore. Now sure. Make it a habit and that’s different.

 

I’d love 1 minute with the official and the kid separately. That’s all I’d need to see the truth here.

[bscinstnct]

> @"deadsolid...shank" said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > So.... the moral to this story is ...

> >

> > When you have a migraine or bathroom emergency on course. Don’t stick it out and finish. Call an official. Cite the rule. And ask for time to take care of it. Make everybody wait while you go or send someone to get it , and /or go to the head. 30 minutes delay on the back 9 is obviously better for the field than a 10 minute delay in the scoring tent. Per the stated logic.

>

> C’mon Blade, you’re really reaching there. Honestly, if he had told someone prior, do you think it would have resulted in a DQ? All he had to do was communicate what was going on. No one knew, what were they supposed to do.

>

> If one of your employees disappears for 10-15 minutes without telling you, is that OK with you? If you’re waiting for them to deal with a time sensitive issue.

>

 

What!?

 

I’d love to see anybody tell me

 

They got an issue if I go somewhere for 10 minutes! Or 2 hours...

 

I be like,

 

I went to drink a Tito’s and a beer with a crazy dog on it.

 

You got a problem?

 

Lol, dss, it’s

 

Finally summer in the NE ; )

 

 

[jdl]

> @bladehunter said:

> There’s literally no known parts really.

> That’s all we know.

 

 

[nsxguy]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @nsxguy said:

 

> > "He went to the bathroom and they kicked him out" LMAO

>

> They did , nsx!

>

> Kicked him out for going to the bathroom!

>

> It’s like the Seinfeld where George is like,

>

> “My poor sister died. She was standing and then she was laughing and then they SHOT her! That's the kind of sick city that we're livin' in. They shoot you for laughing.”

>

 

They DID kick him out and he DID go to the bathroom.

 

It's the part where you conjoin the 2 where you "fail". LOL

 


 

[sui generis]

Anyone notice a pattern here? A handful of players with experience in competitive golf understand the problem and the Committee's action. Then, there's a boatload (including the OP) of posters with no experience of competitive golf but nonetheless feel compelled to weigh in with uninformed opinions and find fault with the Committee all because of some third hand stuff they read on the internet.

[RobertBaron]

Rory just holed out on 18 and went straight to interview with Balionis before turning in his card. Is that considered prompt?

[nsxguy]

> @bladehunter said:

> So.... the moral to this story is ...

>

> When you have a migraine or bathroom emergency on course. Don’t stick it out and finish. Call an official. Cite the rule. And ask for time to take care of it. Make everybody wait while you go or send someone to get it , and /or go to the head. 15 minutes delay on the back 9 is obviously better for the field than a 10 minute delay in the scoring tent. Per the stated logic.

>

> Per rule 5.6 he could ask and get the full 15 minutes during a round for relief from either.

 

So the moral of the story is to "Play by the Rules ?

 

I agree.

[nsxguy]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @"North Texas" said:

> > > @rangersgoalie said:

> > > NC

> > > Was changed to DQ

> > >

> > > He went to the car, went to the bathroom, and then

> > > The player went to the board and saw “NC” ?

> > > His fellow competitors worked out their score on a blank card?

> > >

> > > Way too many weird parts......

> >

> > Agree, too many weird parts which equals too many unknown parts. And yet, posters on here have all the answers. Never fails.

>

> That’s all I’ve said. That everybody has acted in a less than appropriate manner. This story has it all. Even USga opinions from folks who weren’t on property ? It’s nuts.

>

> **There’s literally no known parts** really. Just the **incorrect quotes from officials** and that the kid left to go retrieve meds and to the bathroom. That’s all we know.

 

LOL

 

 

[Ashley Schaeffer]

> @"sui generis" said:

> Anyone notice a pattern here? A handful of players with experience in competitive golf understand the problem and the Committee's action. Then, there's a boatload (including the OP) of posters with no experience of competitive golf but nonetheless feel compelled to weigh in with uninformed opinions and find fault with the Committee all because of some third hand stuff they read on the internet.

 

Totally agree. Those who may take issue with the ruling are relying on third hand info on the internet, whereas those who “understand” are relying on much better info as competitive golfers who were evidently on site. Further, there’s definitely no irony in concluding that anyone who takes issue with the ruling must have no experience in competitive golf, given that the information to form said conclusion comes from anonymous comments on the internet.

[bscinstnct]

> @nsxguy said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > @rangersgoalie said:

> > > > NC

> > > > Was changed to DQ

> > > >

> > > > He went to the car, went to the bathroom, and then

> > > > The player went to the board and saw “NC” ?

> > > > His fellow competitors worked out their score on a blank card?

> > > >

> > > > Way too many weird parts......

> > >

> > > Agree, too many weird parts which equals too many unknown parts. And yet, posters on here have all the answers. Never fails.

> >

> > That’s all I’ve said. That everybody has acted in a less than appropriate manner. This story has it all. Even USga opinions from folks who weren’t on property ? It’s nuts.

> >

> > **There’s literally no known parts** really. Just the **incorrect quotes from officials** and that the kid left to go retrieve meds and to the bathroom. That’s all we know.

>

> LOL

>

>

 

USGA manager of championship communications,

 

“went to lunch and did not enter the scoring area until the following group had returned their cards.”

 

Fact?

 

Here is a fact.

 

Kid kicked out of tournament for going to the bathroom.

 

These officials. Need to stop eatin so many donuts and go see what’s happening ; )

 

[bladehunter]

> @"sui generis" said:

> Anyone notice a pattern here? A handful of players with experience in competitive golf understand the problem and the Committee's action. Then, there's a boatload (including the OP) of posters with no experience of competitive golf but nonetheless feel compelled to weigh in with uninformed opinions and find fault with the Committee all because of some third hand stuff they read on the internet.

 

Rules official ^. Exhibit A.

 

You know I love you. But you’re proving my point.

[bladehunter]

> @nsxguy said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > @rangersgoalie said:

> > > > NC

> > > > Was changed to DQ

> > > >

> > > > He went to the car, went to the bathroom, and then

> > > > The player went to the board and saw “NC” ?

> > > > His fellow competitors worked out their score on a blank card?

> > > >

> > > > Way too many weird parts......

> > >

> > > Agree, too many weird parts which equals too many unknown parts. And yet, posters on here have all the answers. Never fails.

> >

> > That’s all I’ve said. That everybody has acted in a less than appropriate manner. This story has it all. Even USga opinions from folks who weren’t on property ? It’s nuts.

> >

> > **There’s literally no known parts** really. Just the **incorrect quotes from officials** and that the kid left to go retrieve meds and to the bathroom. That’s all we know.

>

> LOL

>

>

 

Typo. Should have read “ incoherent “

 

A joke of course.

But I meant that we “ know” that some of the official quotes can’t be correct. It obvious he didn’t “ go to lunch “. And he obviously couldn’t have came back “ after the group behind him finished 18 and left the scoring area “ inside of 10-14 minutes.

[bladehunter]

> @"Ashley Schaeffer" said:

> > @"sui generis" said:

> > Anyone notice a pattern here? A handful of players with experience in competitive golf understand the problem and the Committee's action. Then, there's a boatload (including the OP) of posters with no experience of competitive golf but nonetheless feel compelled to weigh in with uninformed opinions and find fault with the Committee all because of some third hand stuff they read on the internet.

>

> Totally agree. Those who may take issue with the ruling are relying on third hand info on the internet, whereas those who “understand” are relying on much better info as competitive golfers who were evidently on site. Further, there’s definitely no irony in concluding that anyone who takes issue with the ruling must have no experience in competitive golf, given that the information to form said conclusion comes from anonymous comments on the internet.

 

 

Lmao.

[bladehunter]

> @nsxguy said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > So.... the moral to this story is ...

> >

> > When you have a migraine or bathroom emergency on course. Don’t stick it out and finish. Call an official. Cite the rule. And ask for time to take care of it. Make everybody wait while you go or send someone to get it , and /or go to the head. 15 minutes delay on the back 9 is obviously better for the field than a 10 minute delay in the scoring tent. Per the stated logic.

> >

> > Per rule 5.6 he could ask and get the full 15 minutes during a round for relief from either.

>

> So the moral of the story is to "Play by the Rules ?

>

> I agree.

 

 

Agreed that’s the moral of the story. The title of the story could be “ when the rules and common sense collide “.

[North Texas]

The people criticizing the officials in this case don't realize that sometimes you don't know what you don't know. Just need to apply Occam's Razor.