New TM p790 irons ???

[BiggErn]

> @scratchswinger said:

> > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > @mBiden2 said:

> > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > @rkelso184 said:

> > > > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > > > @rkelso184 said:

> > > > > > > New irons are pretty much the same just more compact. Not as long but claim still as forgiving. Very very clean looking. Release September.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Changes in short.

> > > > > > > Shorter blade length. More compact

> > > > > > > Taylormade writting replaced with T logo

> > > > > > > Tungsten text removed on short irons so I assume the comment above is correct

> > > > > > > Look like a different finish (not so

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Great info. Did they keep the muscleback look in the back? Did they keep the P790 name?

> > > > >

> > > > > Yep looks almost identical. Little bit tiddier with the logo not text and just a tad more compact hey.

> > > >

> > > > This sounds like everything we have been asking for, hopefully less offset too. Speedfoam through the entire set?

> > >

> > > Yeah I hope so too. Can’t wait to see some pics. Hopefully speedfoam only in long irons.

> >

> > I don’t think TM will abandon the speed foam in this set unfortunately. I could be wrong but that’s the major marketing hype around the P790’s. Maybe fix it to where you do not get hot fliers anymore.

>

>

> Exactly. If you don’t want the speed foam then get different irons.

>

 

I don’t get it either. The 760s are exactly what some are asking for but want them to be called 790s.

[ASN21]

> @BiggErn said:

> > @scratchswinger said:

> > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > @mBiden2 said:

> > > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > > @rkelso184 said:

> > > > > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > > > > @rkelso184 said:

> > > > > > > > New irons are pretty much the same just more compact. Not as long but claim still as forgiving. Very very clean looking. Release September.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Changes in short.

> > > > > > > > Shorter blade length. More compact

> > > > > > > > Taylormade writting replaced with T logo

> > > > > > > > Tungsten text removed on short irons so I assume the comment above is correct

> > > > > > > > Look like a different finish (not so

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Great info. Did they keep the muscleback look in the back? Did they keep the P790 name?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yep looks almost identical. Little bit tiddier with the logo not text and just a tad more compact hey.

> > > > >

> > > > > This sounds like everything we have been asking for, hopefully less offset too. Speedfoam through the entire set?

> > > >

> > > > Yeah I hope so too. Can’t wait to see some pics. Hopefully speedfoam only in long irons.

> > >

> > > I don’t think TM will abandon the speed foam in this set unfortunately. I could be wrong but that’s the major marketing hype around the P790’s. Maybe fix it to where you do not get hot fliers anymore.

> >

> >

> > Exactly. If you don’t want the speed foam then get different irons.

> >

>

> I don’t get it either. The 760s are exactly what some are asking for but want them to be called 790s.

 

The 760’s look terrible IMO and the top line is nearly as thick as the P790 IMO.

 

[BiggErn]

> @ASN21 said:

> > @BiggErn said:

> > > @scratchswinger said:

> > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > @mBiden2 said:

> > > > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > > > @rkelso184 said:

> > > > > > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > > > > > @rkelso184 said:

> > > > > > > > > New irons are pretty much the same just more compact. Not as long but claim still as forgiving. Very very clean looking. Release September.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Changes in short.

> > > > > > > > > Shorter blade length. More compact

> > > > > > > > > Taylormade writting replaced with T logo

> > > > > > > > > Tungsten text removed on short irons so I assume the comment above is correct

> > > > > > > > > Look like a different finish (not so

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Great info. Did they keep the muscleback look in the back? Did they keep the P790 name?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yep looks almost identical. Little bit tiddier with the logo not text and just a tad more compact hey.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This sounds like everything we have been asking for, hopefully less offset too. Speedfoam through the entire set?

> > > > >

> > > > > Yeah I hope so too. Can’t wait to see some pics. Hopefully speedfoam only in long irons.

> > > >

> > > > I don’t think TM will abandon the speed foam in this set unfortunately. I could be wrong but that’s the major marketing hype around the P790’s. Maybe fix it to where you do not get hot fliers anymore.

> > >

> > >

> > > Exactly. If you don’t want the speed foam then get different irons.

> > >

> >

> > I don’t get it either. The 760s are exactly what some are asking for but want them to be called 790s.

>

> The 760’s look terrible IMO and the top line is nearly as thick as the P790 IMO.

>

 

And? I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you’ll never get a razor thin top line on a hollow iron and I highly doubt TM is gonna get too far away from something that was a huge success just to pander to a small handful of people. They did it already with the 760. I doubt the new version is gonna be dramatically smaller in any regard and I’m banking on foam being in every head.

[mrmikeac]

> @ASN21 said:

> > @BiggErn said:

> > > @scratchswinger said:

> > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > @mBiden2 said:

> > > > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > > > @rkelso184 said:

> > > > > > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > > > > > @rkelso184 said:

> > > > > > > > > New irons are pretty much the same just more compact. Not as long but claim still as forgiving. Very very clean looking. Release September.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Changes in short.

> > > > > > > > > Shorter blade length. More compact

> > > > > > > > > Taylormade writting replaced with T logo

> > > > > > > > > Tungsten text removed on short irons so I assume the comment above is correct

> > > > > > > > > Look like a different finish (not so

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Great info. Did they keep the muscleback look in the back? Did they keep the P790 name?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yep looks almost identical. Little bit tiddier with the logo not text and just a tad more compact hey.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This sounds like everything we have been asking for, hopefully less offset too. Speedfoam through the entire set?

> > > > >

> > > > > Yeah I hope so too. Can’t wait to see some pics. Hopefully speedfoam only in long irons.

> > > >

> > > > I don’t think TM will abandon the speed foam in this set unfortunately. I could be wrong but that’s the major marketing hype around the P790’s. Maybe fix it to where you do not get hot fliers anymore.

> > >

> > >

> > > Exactly. If you don’t want the speed foam then get different irons.

> > >

> >

> > I don’t get it either. The 760s are exactly what some are asking for but want them to be called 790s.

>

> The 760’s look terrible IMO and the top line is nearly as thick as the P790 IMO.

>

 

 

I had the 760’s for a quick minute before switching to Apex Pro 19’s, now I’m waiting on my Mizuno’s to come in. I have problems yes but aside from that, the P760’s were some of the purest irons I’ve ever played, if I could go back in time I would have never sold them for my Apex Pro 19’s and I probably wouldn’t have ever gone to the Mizuno fitting.

 

With that being said, you’re being enormously picky, the top line is not as thick as you think and the iron plays like a blade with the chamfered leading edge.

 

People are literally on here asking for another P760....

[ASN21]

> @BiggErn said:

> > @ASN21 said:

> > > @BiggErn said:

> > > > @scratchswinger said:

> > > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > > @mBiden2 said:

> > > > > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > > > > @rkelso184 said:

> > > > > > > > > @TheMoneyShot said:

> > > > > > > > > > @rkelso184 said:

> > > > > > > > > > New irons are pretty much the same just more compact. Not as long but claim still as forgiving. Very very clean looking. Release September.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Changes in short.

> > > > > > > > > > Shorter blade length. More compact

> > > > > > > > > > Taylormade writting replaced with T logo

> > > > > > > > > > Tungsten text removed on short irons so I assume the comment above is correct

> > > > > > > > > > Look like a different finish (not so

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Great info. Did they keep the muscleback look in the back? Did they keep the P790 name?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yep looks almost identical. Little bit tiddier with the logo not text and just a tad more compact hey.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This sounds like everything we have been asking for, hopefully less offset too. Speedfoam through the entire set?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yeah I hope so too. Can’t wait to see some pics. Hopefully speedfoam only in long irons.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don’t think TM will abandon the speed foam in this set unfortunately. I could be wrong but that’s the major marketing hype around the P790’s. Maybe fix it to where you do not get hot fliers anymore.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Exactly. If you don’t want the speed foam then get different irons.

> > > >

> > >

> > > I don’t get it either. The 760s are exactly what some are asking for but want them to be called 790s.

> >

> > The 760’s look terrible IMO and the top line is nearly as thick as the P790 IMO.

> >

>

> And? I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you’ll never get a razor thin top line on a hollow iron and I highly doubt TM is gonna get too far away from something that was a huge success just to pander to a small handful of people. They did it already with the 760. I doubt the new version is gonna be dramatically smaller in any regard and I’m banking on foam being in every head.

 

Oh really? How about the i500 irons. Nice try though.

[rkelso184]

I can guarantee you to most they wouldn't even be able to tell the difference if it wasn't for the new logo.

[Cottonseed.]

> @rkelso184 said:

> I can guarantee you to most they wouldn't even be able to tell the difference if it wasn't for the new logo.

 

You're messing with some hungry wolves here man...be careful about anything else you say.

[RobYakes]

Anybody having issues with spin on the shorter irons (8-PW)? For the life of me I'm trying to spin them but they continue to roll out on greens. Went from JPX 900 Hot Metals to P790s and the roll out is night and day. Also went from Modus 105s in the Mizzys to Modus 120s in my P790s but my fitter and club builder said it's not the shaft. He mentioned that the foam in the short irons has led to the spin issues and that others had mentioned spin problems with the short irons as well.

[EricWGolf]

> @RobYakes said:

> Anybody having issues with spin on the shorter irons (8-PW)? For the life of me I'm trying to spin them but they continue to roll out on greens. Went from JPX 900 Hot Metals to P790s and the roll out is night and day. Also went from Modus 105s in the Mizzys to Modus 120s in my P790s but my fitter and club builder said it's not the shaft. He mentioned that the foam in the short irons has led to the spin issues and that others had mentioned spin problems with the short irons as well.

 

I have not had any spin issues in shorter irons.

 

But the Modus 120 is lower launching/lower spinning than the 105.

 


 

[MizunoMac72]

> @RobYakes said:

> Anybody having issues with spin on the shorter irons (8-PW)? For the life of me I'm trying to spin them but they continue to roll out on greens. Went from JPX 900 Hot Metals to P790s and the roll out is night and day. Also went from Modus 105s in the Mizzys to Modus 120s in my P790s but my fitter and club builder said it's not the shaft. He mentioned that the foam in the short irons has led to the spin issues and that others had mentioned spin problems with the short irons as well.

 

You are not alone, it appears that many have issues with the spin rates on the short irons, they attribute it to the 'SpeedFoam'.

 

 

[EricWGolf]

> @rkelso184 said:

> New irons are pretty much the same just more compact. Not as long but claim still as forgiving. Very very clean looking. Release September.

>

> Changes in short.

> Shorter blade length. More compact

> Taylormade writting replaced with T logo

> Look like a different finish (not so shiney)

>

> Other then that I had to look at new and old pic to compare the look so def no major changes

 

P780s would be perfect!

[RobYakes]

> @EricWGolf said:

> > @RobYakes said:

> > Anybody having issues with spin on the shorter irons (8-PW)? For the life of me I'm trying to spin them but they continue to roll out on greens. Went from JPX 900 Hot Metals to P790s and the roll out is night and day. Also went from Modus 105s in the Mizzys to Modus 120s in my P790s but my fitter and club builder said it's not the shaft. He mentioned that the foam in the short irons has led to the spin issues and that others had mentioned spin problems with the short irons as well.

>

> I have not had any spin issues in shorter irons.

>

> But the Modus 120 is lower launching/lower spinning than the 105.

>

>

That was my worry too, but my builder said 120 has actually been higher spin/launch than 105 for most of the ppl he's fit them into. Also Nippon has the 120 both higher and lower than 105 depending on player...

 

[MizunoMac72]

> @RobYakes said:

> Anybody having issues with spin on the shorter irons (8-PW)? For the life of me I'm trying to spin them but they continue to roll out on greens. Went from JPX 900 Hot Metals to P790s and the roll out is night and day. Also went from Modus 105s in the Mizzys to Modus 120s in my P790s but my fitter and club builder said it's not the shaft. He mentioned that the foam in the short irons has led to the spin issues and that others had mentioned spin problems with the short irons as well.

 

 

 

 

[ASN21]

> @RobYakes said:

> Anybody having issues with spin on the shorter irons (8-PW)? For the life of me I'm trying to spin them but they continue to roll out on greens. Went from JPX 900 Hot Metals to P790s and the roll out is night and day. Also went from Modus 105s in the Mizzys to Modus 120s in my P790s but my fitter and club builder said it's not the shaft. He mentioned that the foam in the short irons has led to the spin issues and that others had mentioned spin problems with the short irons as well.

 

Sounds like you should be playing the TP5 and not X. I have had no issues with my irons..

[RichieHunt]

I struggled with the 8-iron thru PW as well. I then bought the P760 8-PW and the problems were pretty much solved.

 

I think the spin played a role in my issues with the P790's 8-PW, but it was more the launch angle was too high.

 

I hit my 7-iron about 180-185 yards. With the 8-iron I would I might hit it 165-170 yards...and then I might hit it 140 yards. If it was into even the slightest breeze...fuhgetaboutit.

 

The 9-iron and PW were ridiculously short. I would hit the 9-iron 145...tops. More like 135. And the PW about 120-125 yards.

 

So I went to the P760's in the 8-PW. I hit the 8-iron about 165. I still have some issues in the wind, but a slight breeze may knock that back down to about 150-155 yards instead of 130 yards. The P760 9-iron goes about 145-155 and the PW goes about 135-140 yards.

 

The P790's got so bad that I brought my Srixon Z945's with TT DG X100 shafts and was hitting them a little further than the P790 short irons.

 

 

 

 

RH

[EricWGolf]

> @RobYakes said:

> > @EricWGolf said:

> > > @RobYakes said:

> > > Anybody having issues with spin on the shorter irons (8-PW)? For the life of me I'm trying to spin them but they continue to roll out on greens. Went from JPX 900 Hot Metals to P790s and the roll out is night and day. Also went from Modus 105s in the Mizzys to Modus 120s in my P790s but my fitter and club builder said it's not the shaft. He mentioned that the foam in the short irons has led to the spin issues and that others had mentioned spin problems with the short irons as well.

> >

> > I have not had any spin issues in shorter irons.

> >

> > But the Modus 120 is lower launching/lower spinning than the 105.

> >

> >

> That was my worry too, but my builder said 120 has actually been higher spin/launch than 105 for most of the ppl he's fit them into. Also Nippon has the 120 both higher and lower than 105 depending on player...

>

>

That is one of the most baffling graphics I’ve ever seen a shaft company use.

 

So, the 120 is low to mid, and the 105 is mid ... but the 120 “mid” line is significantly higher than the 105 “mid” line? If you are going to show a range, show the range for all compared shafts. And if you are setting the ceiling for one shaft at “mid” then don’t show it significantly higher than a different shaft rated at “mid”.

 

And because the 120 trajectory and spin will vary with each golfer’s unique swing ... as if the 105 won’t?

 

Obviously I can’t speak for everyone, I can only relay my own personal experiences and observations: the 120 is heavier and more tip-stiff, so it launches the ball lower and spins less than the 105.

 

 

[BiggErn]

No problem with spin in the short irons or playing shots with them.

[driveandputtmachine]

> @BirdieBob said:

> > @driveandputtmachine said:

> > > @BirdieBob said:

> > > Maybe a real forged head like PXG! That would be a plus and have me looking closer.

> >

> > Because you can tell a difference between a fully forged and then welded head filled with vibration dampening foam and a cast head/forged face with vibration dampening foam?

>

> Owned both sets of clubs...yes definited difference!

> Several improvements that can be made to the P790..this is just one.

> The difference between the mid and short irons was just one of those...

 

 

Definite difference between the two heads, it has absolutely nothing to do with the back of the 790 being cast though.

[mrmikeac]

I have a gut feeling the new P790’s are going to look very similar to Parson’s 0211’s

Like, VERY similar.

 

[Asiangolfer1995]

> @mrmikeac said:

> I have a gut feeling the new P790’s are going to look very similar to Parson’s 0211’s

> Like, VERY similar.

>

 

Doubling Down on this feeling as well^ my guess is pictures will leak somewhere near Fedex Cup Playoffs time, and announcements of the official products to come shortly after.

[rkelso184]

> @Asiangolfer1995 said:

> > @mrmikeac said:

> > I have a gut feeling the new P790’s are going to look very similar to Parson’s 0211’s

> > Like, VERY similar.

> >

>

> Doubling Down on this feeling as well^ my guess is pictures will leak somewhere near Fedex Cup Playoffs time, and announcements of the official products to come shortly after.

 

They look identical to the old one. Different logo and a little more compact.

[rkelso184]

 

[BostonWRX]

> @rkelso184 said:

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>

 

Are those actually the new ones?

[Divot2]

?....I was hoping they kept the brushed looked. If these are more compact, I will preorder the day they are available!!!

[SoloShot84]

is it really necessary to have that cutout badge plating for "P790"?

that was the main drawback for me

 

and I love the look of P760. really need to see them in person.

[Divot2]

> @SoloShot84 said:

> is it really necessary to have that cutout badge plating for "P790"?

> that was the main drawback for me

>

> and I love the look of P760. really need to see them in person.

 

I hope that wasn’t the only thing that kept you from playing them.

[Divot2]

> @HackATK said:

> > @SoloShot84 said:

> > is it really necessary to have that cutout badge plating for "P790"?

> > that was the main drawback for me

> >

> > and I love the look of P760. really need to see them in person.

>

> I hope that wasn’t the only thing that kept you from playing them. ?

 

 

[SoloShot84]

> @HackATK said:

> > @SoloShot84 said:

> > is it really necessary to have that cutout badge plating for "P790"?

> > that was the main drawback for me

> >

> > and I love the look of P760. really need to see them in person.

>

> I hope that wasn’t the only thing that kept you from playing them.

 

That and head size (and some low spin gossip)

certainly happy with my current set P760/P730 combo

kinda considering adding P790 4iron but really that badge thing does not suite my eyes

[BiggErn]

> @rkelso184 said:

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>

 

Nice photoshop but I’m sure they’ll make some other aesthetic modifications.

[BiggErn]

> @HackATK said:

> ?....I was hoping they kept the brushed looked. If these are more compact, I will preorder the day they are available!!!

 

 

If they’re more compact they won’t be P790.