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Yeah I am not a fan of the built in forward press. Have a Blad and a DF 2.1.  I will try out armlock with an Evenroll and if that does not work I´ll get he Link1 which to my understanding dropped that built in forward press. They should have left it out with the Blad already as only necessary with the DF 2.1 and Mezz, if even. If armlock works for me, I will take the hand-three-axis-disable-cheat if possible, I will get a Mezz Max armlock.

The thing that bothers me is loft. That has to be fit with the putter you get not just some putter. I don't have a LAB fitter nearby. Not sure if you can bend a LAB Putter loftwise without loosing its equilibrium.

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22 minutes ago, Pexeter said:

 

I did but on the advice of the video fitting, I guess my hands looked low in the video but I couldn't mentally get over how flat it was, it's perfect now at 69.  I don't see an armlock option for the Link.1 on their website, I had a Mezz Max that was great but did not care for the look of the built in shaft lean.

I also ordered my Link.1 at a 66 degree lie angle based on the video fitting as well & eagerly awaiting its arrival.  My current mallet style putter has a 70 degree lie angle from a proper in-person fitting, so was a bit surprised at the difference. Good to know they can adjust quickly if necessary. 

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Took the plunge and picked up the last Link 1 from Golftown. Was hoping to not like it and return after a few carpet putts.  Long and behold, 18th putter is now in play.  Did the remote fitting using the stock Link 1, and happy to find that I'm just a regular guy.  Philip at  GetFit was very helpful and mentioned cutting an inch short would be fine.  Will report after a couple rounds this weekend.

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On 5/29/2023 at 4:31 AM, MaineMariner said:

Just a head's up to anyone thinking of buying a LAB putter - you're going to get very addicted to twirling the putter around in your hands when you're holding it on the green. The torque free spinning feels very cool and it will become your new thing.

 

Just an FYI.

 

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A couple questions. I have a Mezz Max that has a number written on the shaft (1199). What does that mean? Second item is that I need it shortened by an inch and the lie more upright. I think I saw somewhere in the thread that wouldn’t mess up the dynamics of the putter. True?

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I'm still loving my df 2.1.  My scoring average has gone down 2 strokes even with some lackluster ball striking.  

 

My only issue right now is what to do when just off the green putting through long areas of fringe and moderate amount of fairway.  I find it hard to get the speed right in these instances as either the ball skids more than I anticipate (comes up way short) or it jumps up and I go way long.  Has anyone figured out how to use these from off the green?  I am going to try addressing the ball further back and further forward, usually I put it right off the inside of the lead foot.  In addition to that putts up against the rough are an issue as well, i've been using a 5w instead. It seems to me so far that this is the only issue I have with this putter.   FWIW i've never had much of an issue with this type of shot before.  

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Got my KBS GPS shaft in my DF2.1 today.  Love it.  IMG_5217.jpeg.c5fe5cb285671bdff3d5cc3bf34a094f.jpegIMG_5216.jpeg.d07f71639a8812f8f50408abe32b8040.jpegIMG_5215.jpeg.c0bbc06cfff02902a849aa75a3a50f81.jpegIMG_5214.jpeg.db0ab7592c23704fbd75b289818df954.jpeg

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18 minutes ago, Southside Seminole said:

I’d love to throw one of those into my DF2.1 armlock. But everything I’ve read says don’t even attempt it & let them do it lol. Did you do it yourself?

No. Had a lab guy do it. 

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Fellas, I need some help…

 

I tried the Mezz the other day and absolutely loved the performance. I’ve never felt anything like it, I’m now a true believer in LAB.
Even though I was draining putts with it, I don’t care for the looks. The forward press is weird to me as well.
 

I prefer the look of the Link, but I’m unable to find a left handed one anywhere for demoing.

 

Does stroking the Link feel as balanced, graceful, and effortless as the Mezz?
Does it feel as good off the face?

 

I would love to hear anyone’s experiences. I’m too afraid to buy the Link without trying it first, but I may have to…

I know the Mezz would help my game, but I’m hoping I can get the best of both worlds in terms of looks and performance. Thanks!

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1 hour ago, domdomdom said:

Fellas, I need some help…

 

I tried the Mezz the other day and absolutely loved the performance. I’ve never felt anything like it, I’m now a true believer in LAB.
Even though I was draining putts with it, I don’t care for the looks. The forward press is weird to me as well.
 

I prefer the look of the Link, but I’m unable to find a left handed one anywhere for demoing.

 

Does stroking the Link feel as balanced, graceful, and effortless as the Mezz?
Does it feel as good off the face?

 

I would love to hear anyone’s experiences. I’m too afraid to buy the Link without trying it first, but I may have to…

I know the Mezz would help my game, but I’m hoping I can get the best of both worlds in terms of looks and performance. Thanks!

Imo, the Mezz is going to help more than the LINK.  The LINK, for me, is the best balanced and stable blade or answer style putter out there, so but if you want even more stability, the Mezz is your putter.  That said, is some is good, than more is better and the DF2.1 is the most stable putter you’ll find.   I get the looks for all of these is hard on some people.  It was for me at first too.  But I sold my soul.  Making putts won out.   

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On 6/30/2023 at 4:23 PM, Minarets said:

Got my KBS GPS shaft in my DF2.1 today.  Love it.  IMG_5217.jpeg.c5fe5cb285671bdff3d5cc3bf34a094f.jpegIMG_5216.jpeg.d07f71639a8812f8f50408abe32b8040.jpegIMG_5215.jpeg.c0bbc06cfff02902a849aa75a3a50f81.jpegIMG_5214.jpeg.db0ab7592c23704fbd75b289818df954.jpeg

 

Really clean from the Pilot's view. The white really POPS.

 

I don't really care for the text all along the right side of the grip. I had same in my WRX tester Mezz.1 but I ended up using a black sharpie to tone it way down. I really wished they made that text smaller, less distracting but alas. However, the center line works.

 

Yeah, as a DF owner since 2017 the putter brings LOTS of comments but it rolls so true. Mezz makes it more "mainstream" for the non-LAB knowledgeable golfers but the DF is still the most PURE and utilitarian of all the Lie Angle Balance putters.

 

Roll it straight,enjoy the pics, thanks 🍻

 

 

 

 

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For those that haven't seen it, LAB posted an interesting video with a putting board training aid. 

 

 

@labgolf this seems to suggest that a steeper lie angle will result in less 'arc' in putter face if shaft goes straight back and through on the plane. 

 

So while the goal is always to take the shaft straight back and through, it follows that there will be more margin for error with a steeper lie angle? 

 

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23 minutes ago, PlsPlsGoStraight said:

For those that haven't seen it, LAB posted an interesting video with a putting board training aid. 

 

 

@labgolf this seems to suggest that a steeper lie angle will result in less 'arc' in putter face if shaft goes straight back and through on the plane. 

 

So while the goal is always to take the shaft straight back and through, it follows that there will be more margin for error with a steeper lie angle? 

 

Interesting synopsis. Maybe why my putting has struggled as I am flatter than fit and that what I usually played. 😩

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On 7/2/2023 at 9:00 PM, PlsPlsGoStraight said:

For those that haven't seen it, LAB posted an interesting video with a putting board training aid. 

 

 

@labgolf this seems to suggest that a steeper lie angle will result in less 'arc' in putter face if shaft goes straight back and through on the plane. 

 

So while the goal is always to take the shaft straight back and through, it follows that there will be more margin for error with a steeper lie angle? 

 

Why would It be more Margin for error ?  Less face rotation is less margin for error. No ?  
 

I haven’t seen this video yet. But I assume it will show what I know. The more upright the lie angle , the better this tech works.  It’s a straight line deal.  You need to get up over the ball , and track the head down the line. Not arcing left .  People that struggle with this are mostly those that try to stand away from the ball with a flat lie angle. Get it up there 77-79 and see it come out dead online everytime.  

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30 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

Why would It be more Margin for error ?  Less face rotation is less margin for error. No ?  
 

I haven’t seen this video yet. But I assume it will show what I know. The more upright the lie angle , the better this tech works.  It’s a straight line deal.  You need to get up over the ball , and track the head down the line. Not arcing left .  People that struggle with this are mostly those that try to stand away from the ball with a flat lie angle. Get it up there 77-79 and see it come out dead online everytime.  


It’s a matter of point of view or perspective. It’s really both staying on plane and putter face stays square on that plane.  When you do this, the club face seems like it’s arcing left on the backswing.  The video shows this we’ll. 

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On 7/2/2023 at 8:00 PM, PlsPlsGoStraight said:

For those that haven't seen it, LAB posted an interesting video with a putting board training aid. 

 

 

@labgolf this seems to suggest that a steeper lie angle will result in less 'arc' in putter face if shaft goes straight back and through on the plane. 

 

So while the goal is always to take the shaft straight back and through, it follows that there will be more margin for error with a steeper lie angle? 

 

Best video I have seen explaining arc vs SBST putting.  David Orr gets into this.  As the video says, nobody swings the shaft on an arc, the head appears to arc, but only because the shaft is on a tilted plane.  If you could have a 90 lie angle a SBST stroke would have the face always pointed on the target line

 

Now I want to try a Link.1.  

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On 6/30/2023 at 4:58 PM, B_of_H said:

I'm still loving my df 2.1.  My scoring average has gone down 2 strokes even with some lackluster ball striking.  

 

My only issue right now is what to do when just off the green putting through long areas of fringe and moderate amount of fairway.  I find it hard to get the speed right in these instances as either the ball skids more than I anticipate (comes up way short) or it jumps up and I go way long.  Has anyone figured out how to use these from off the green?  I am going to try addressing the ball further back and further forward, usually I put it right off the inside of the lead foot.  In addition to that putts up against the rough are an issue as well, i've been using a 5w instead. It seems to me so far that this is the only issue I have with this putter.   FWIW i've never had much of an issue with this type of shot before.  

 

Interestingly, I never (not an exaggeration) putted from off the green before I got my DF 2.1

I always used a hybrid on really long ones or chipped with something between a 7i and PW depending on distance etc.

 

Now I am putting a lot from of the greens and just focus on making the same stroke as on the green (which is a slight "hitting up on the ball" feeling for me). This launches the ball slightly of the ground and makes it start rolling immediately. So maybe check if you are hitting down a little when off the green? I only see my ball skid when I make a poor stroke. DF just rolls the ball so beautifully...

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8 hours ago, Mike_C said:

Best video I have seen explaining arc vs SBST putting.  David Orr gets into this.  As the video says, nobody swings the shaft on an arc, the head appears to arc, but only because the shaft is on a tilted plane.  If you could have a 90 lie angle a SBST stroke would have the face always pointed on the target line

 

Now I want to try a Link.1.  

Another reason why a hands high stroke is theoretically better as well. Much less face rotation relative to target. I miss my L.A.B. 😔. Gonna have to pick one up soon.

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53 minutes ago, sheppick.dan said:

Will someone tell me how big the 2.1 is? I know it’s much bigger but what are the measurements?

 

what are your feeling of firmness off the face? I really like my white hot insert feeling. Is it a ton harder than that?

Driver to scale with ball. 
Feel is subjective. I do leave more balls short with it. The song is a little clicky

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