Titleist T400 irons

[TomBomb51]

 

 

[StarFleetGolfer]

Where's the 3i?

[1s1k]

For when you need to hit that PW from 170yds out

[TomBomb51]

My thoughts as well. There is a quote from an unnamed Titleist employee: "Look, we already know what people are going to think when they see these loft specs, but they have to consider the target market and what we are trying to accomplish."

My thing is...Is he just saying the target market is stupid? A lot of people know 38* is pretty much a standard 8 iron. And for Titleist to call it the ultimate distance iron is again, assuming the public is stupid. You can bend a Mizuno MP20 PW to 38* (if it didnt snap right off) and it would go the same distance as a T400.

[1s1k]

It's right there, its says 5 on the bottom of the club.

[BirdieBob]

A first...…...38* PW!!

[mackepa]

20* 5 Iron and a 38* Pitching wedge. What are we even doing anymore? I get that these are designed for distance but that is an absolute joke. This does absolutely nothing to help the high handicapper play better golf. you cannot convince me that a 20 handicap is going to be able to hit that 7 iron high enough with enough spin to be able to hold greens let alone the 20* 5 iron. Sure it's going to go farther but at what costs?

[vman]

I'm going to hang fire for the T500 super power irons.

[mtiger10]

So my first thoughts when I heard about the T400 : "can't wait to try those, certainly fits my player profile" but then I see the specs. I thought my 43* PW was a little extreme but 38* ??

[Carolina Golfer 2]

I just don't get it. All the same BS complaining about lofts. If you don't like them, then simply move on to something else. What good does your complaining do anybody. AS for if the 38 degree PW will hold the green, well did a 38 degree 9 iron hold a green, then why wouldn't this, just because of the number on the bottom. Sure you may need to add the 43 W2, but My guess is most players that these clubs are designed for will begin the set at the 6 versus the 5, so they are still buying the same number of clubs.

It amazes me how the go to post here is, to criticize and say they will never help anyone, well before anyone has struck a shot with them.

[mackepa]

I'm critical because it's my job as a teacher and fitter to put the best golf clubs in peoples hands. Its really easy for a player to try these and think "wow, I love the extra distance" and not think twice about how this club is going to react once its on the actual course. This isn't me just being critical of Titleist. I'm a big Callaway supporter but I do not like the EPIC Forged irons for the average joe either. We sell a bunch of them because they just flat out go far but It's not actually helping scores improve.

[RonSwanson]

Adding the two additional "wedges" says everything that needs to be said. The numbers on the sole are for vanity purposes only.

 

They took the T300 lofts, which were already very strong, and stamped one club down on everything.

[axrh87]

Don’t see how this could benefit anyone, ball would be coming in so low and flat with zero spin. My home course has 23/27 elevated greens so that would be a rough combo ha

[BigHook25]

Titleist...shooting from classic looking clubs to some of the ugliest on the market. And if that isn't enough then just jack the lofts the same as everyone used to hate about Callaway and TaylorMade. Way to be a follower.

 

[cradd10]

I'm gonna order them 2* strong and 2" longer. Can't wait to hit wedge from 195

[GoGoErky]

And there’s a vast majority of golfers who play just to play golf and don’t look to improve or even keep score bit want to get some help in getting the ball in the air and some rh at want to say they hit their X club so far.

Options in golf aren’t bad

[doctorbloor]

Have you had the chance to put these through the paces on Trackman to see what the numbers look like, or had clients demo them yet?

[Titletown]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA those lofts HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Carolina Golfer 2]

I get that, and I'd be interested to see what actual spin, apex and decent angle numbers they have. Is that something you typically go over with your students? Do you ever take them out to a hole when they are deciding between say a Epic Forged and another GI club to see how they perform in holding a green or the height they reach. Of course these are all player dependent as well, you could give the highest lofted 7 iron to some players and they would still hit line drives with it. Me, I consider myself a high handicapper at 14.9, I have a relatively slow 7 iron swing speed of 75 to 77 MPH but I have no problem getting the ball high enough to hold greens, I also use the ProV1x, so that is a factor as well.

I just ask all these questions out of genuine curiosity, not to argue.

[msd71]

Just go straigt to the endgame, a single 20* PW, and be done with it.

[boggyman]

It’s the one with a 5 on the sole ??

[msd71]

If I combo these with my 620MBs I'll have to go P, 9, 8, 7, 6, 7, 6, 5.

[gator]

Maybe the target market is senoir golfers that have to hit an 8 iron now for the PW distance they used to get? Doesn’t bother me because I don’t worry about what distance my playing partner hits each club. When I get to the age where I hit my 8 iron 20 yds shorter than I’m used to I may consider irons like this. If you’ve been playing golf for 50 yrs it may be easier to associate a 160 yd shot with an 8 iron rather than a 5 iron.

[SubaruWRX]

Looks like Callaway Rogue or AP3

[Marco Colo]

It became 3 wood ??

[TomBomb51]

This is where my father falls. He has been golfing for 40+ years now, plays to about an 8 handicap, has a bad back and needs all the help he can get. He is also good enough to know what "gapping" is and literally couldnt care less what the number on the bottom of the club says. His setup now is driver, 3w, 5w, 3h, 4h, 5h, 6h, 7-PW, GW, SW and a putter. The hybrids help with launch and forgiveness. Can you imagine if someone like him, who hits the ball shorter and lower than most people around his skill level, switched into these? You know that they wont launch as easily as a hybrid, plus he would be EXTREMELY confused about the number on the bottom of the club vs how far he is hitting it and in a bad way, because why would he switch to something other than what hes been used to for 40 years? It literally is just a change of a number and it isnt always a positive change.

[Dpavs]

I'm definitely going to wait for the T400S to come out.

[ronstars]

Well done Sir! Haha

[DFS PFD]

I can't wait for a set that starts with a 20* PW and has 8 Bob Vokey gap wedges.

[TomBomb51]

"hey man, what did you hit?"

"wedge"

"well, thats half your bag..."