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Curious to hear from people what their favorite new players irons are from the new releases. I am looking to upgrade my set of irons that I've played for the last 5 seasons. I am currently gaming the Apex cf16's. I have loved these irons however I am looking for something in a smaller package with regards to PW - 6 iron. I am curious about the X forged cb's, t100's, p7mc, Zx7, 921 tour's, King Tour MiM's, mp 20 mmc, and any suggestions. I am absolutely going to get fitted when I do get new irons, but I enjoy seeing what people have to say. I currently play off a 9.6 HC, and I would say ball striking is a strength. 

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Following are my top 3:   1. Srixon ZX7 2. Titleist T100s 3. Titleist CB 620

921 tour are my favorite so far, waiting to see the new Apex pro before pulling the trigger 

I always add 1k-1.5k spin going from mats to outdoors. Any irons I've spun at 6500+ off mats balloon and spin at around 8k outdoors. Don't trust mat spin.

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921 tour are my favorite so far, waiting to see the new Apex pro before pulling the trigger 

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Driver - Srixon Z785 / Evenflow Blue  

3 wood - Cobra F9 / Oban Kiyoshi Gold

5wood - TaylorMade M6 / Tour Ad FWY

Hybrid - PXG 0811 22deg / MMT 

Irons - Cobra Forged Tech 5-G / DG105

Sand Wedge - Vokey SM 7 54 S Grind / DG 115

Lob Wedge - Vokey SM 6 58 M Grind / DG115

Putter - PXG Closer Slant <> Goodwood G7

Ball - Bridgestone Tour Bx
 

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I made the jump from CF16 to MP20 MMC/MB combo to T100S. I ordered the Mizunos all the way back in August after hitting them, but they didn’t arrive until last week due to delays in production and shipping. While I was waiting for them I happened to fall in love with the T100S and they seem to suit my swing a bit better. 

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Ping G410 LST / Ventus Black 7x

Titleist TSi2 16.5* / Fujikura Ventus Black 8x

Titleist TSi2 21* / Fujikura Ventus Red 9x

Titleist T100-S 4-W / True Temper DG X7

Vokey SM8 54-12 D Grind / True Temper DG TI X1

Vokey SM8 WW 58-6 LB K Grind / True Temper DG TI X1


 

Scotty Cameron Special Select Fastback 1.5 Dual Balance / KBS CT Tour

PXG One and Done

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P7MC is butter but at a 9 I’d go at least 4 and 5 but probably 4-6 in the 770 to combo in. 

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Taylormade Sim 9* Ventus Velo Blue 7x 

Taylormade Sim Max 3W Ventus Velo Blue 7x

Taylormade Sim UDI 2i Hzrdus Handcrafted Black 105x

Callaway Tour Issue Apex 2019 Hybrid @ 19* Veylix Rome 988X

Miura Tour Issue MC-501 (Low Offset) DG Pro X100

Taylormade MG2 51* SB Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Taylormade MG2 TW 56* + 60* Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Byron Morgan DH89 34.75/70*/2*

Titleist Pro -V1x  or Bridgestone Tour BXS

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1 hour ago, Theweekday said:

@MPAndreassi What made the T100S better for you?


I think the head design in general. TXG has a great video on YouTube comparing the T100S and T100. That’s what really pushed me to try them. I’ve always played flat lie angles and the extra tungsten in the toe helps me. I’m playing them at 2* weak so the same lofts as regular T100. My tendency is to get a little steep as a miss so the extra bounce from bending them weak helps also. The sole on the Mizunos, just like ones in the past, were a bit too diggy for my miss. 

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Ping G410 LST / Ventus Black 7x

Titleist TSi2 16.5* / Fujikura Ventus Black 8x

Titleist TSi2 21* / Fujikura Ventus Red 9x

Titleist T100-S 4-W / True Temper DG X7

Vokey SM8 54-12 D Grind / True Temper DG TI X1

Vokey SM8 WW 58-6 LB K Grind / True Temper DG TI X1


 

Scotty Cameron Special Select Fastback 1.5 Dual Balance / KBS CT Tour

PXG One and Done

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2 hours ago, MPAndreassi said:


I think the head design in general. TXG has a great video on YouTube comparing the T100S and T100. That’s what really pushed me to try them. I’ve always played flat lie angles and the extra tungsten in the toe helps me. I’m playing them at 2* weak so the same lofts as regular T100. My tendency is to get a little steep as a miss so the extra bounce from bending them weak helps also. The sole on the Mizunos, just like ones in the past, were a bit too diggy for my miss. 

Ok that makes sense, I have hit the 919 Tour's before and I loved the ball flight, however it was on a mat and not on real grass. I have heard that mizuno's tend to suit sweepers more so than diggers. 

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3 hours ago, TigerInTheWoods said:

P7MC is butter but at a 9 I’d go at least 4 and 5 but probably 4-6 in the 770 to combo in. 

Yea I have certainly thought of doing a combo set that way with the TM's, I would probably go the 4-5 route, or depending maybe 3-5. I currently game the cf16 3 iron and love it, my 5 wood and 3 wood were too similar, and my 3 iron is my 220 - 230 club off the tee. I have considered going the combo route with most of the OEM's iron line up other than Titleist. 

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7 minutes ago, No_Catchy_Nickname said:

So many good irons in this category this year. The Srixon SX7s are fine irons, but I've been really taken with the Honma offerings, especially the TR20V and TR20B. I also liked the Titleist T100s. Strangely (for me), I haven't tried any of the Mizuno offerings.

I’m definitely interested in the Zx7’s. I don’t believe the club where I last got fit carries Srixon, which means I may have to get fit somewhere else. That’s a bummer though because I really liked my last fit. 

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39 minutes ago, No_Catchy_Nickname said:

So many good irons in this category this year. The Srixon SX7s are fine irons, but I've been really taken with the Honma offerings, especially the TR20V and TR20B. I also liked the Titleist T100s. Strangely (for me), I haven't tried any of the Mizuno offerings.

 

I used to be a die hard Mizuno iron user but I don't know what has changed in the MP 20 range... Didn't like them at all. I never looked at Titleist irons until I tried the T100/T100S and 620 CB. Srixon?? Never even considered them but now they are in my bag... A strange year for me...

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10 hours ago, hypergolf said:

 

I used to be a die hard Mizuno iron user but I don't know what has changed in the MP 20 range... Didn't like them at all. I never looked at Titleist irons until I tried the T100/T100S and 620 CB. Srixon?? Never even considered them but now they are in my bag... A strange year for me...

A strange year for everyone.. what was the difference from the cb to the t100?

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2 hours ago, Theweekday said:

A strange year for everyone.. what was the difference from the cb to the t100?

 

First of all you will have slight distance loss with 620 CB compared to T100 although CB edges in feel when you pure it. 

Spin rate is more consistent and slightly higher (tested both with same shafts) with 620CB.  

 

Turf interaction was better with T100 on grass by hair. 

 

Overall, 620 CB is slightly more demanding compared to T100. 

 

I would have considered 620 CB from 4 to 6 irons and 7 to PW in 620 MB if Titleist didn't charge for every shaft & grip upgrade on top of the premium they charge for their brand recognition.

 

Mizuno and Srixon offer free upgrades to most shafts and grips which I think is fantastic.

 

Because at the end of the day, most clubs are so good and perform well regardless from which company these days that every little offer from the manufacturer tips over the consumers.

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This subject is of great interest to me as I'm debating whether or not I need to replace my Nike Pro Combo (2014) set. Honestly, how can any of these irons improve on what Nike did? I'm no Nike fanboy by the way. 

 

However, I've had them for 4+ seasons and all the these new models are stirring my interest. Plus, let's keep the economy going!

 

Is there anyone out there who gamed the Nikes previously who could be of help? The Nikes feel awesome, sound great and are forgiving enough that I rarely need to practice to maintain a decent handicap. The only issues I have with the Nikes are the size of the shorter irons being little large and I'm not a real fan of the hosel flow.

 

Sorry, I'm not trying to thread jack, but trying to get more information.

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57 minutes ago, hypergolf said:

 

First of all you will have slight distance loss with 620 CB compared to T100 although CB edges in feel when you pure it. 

Spin rate is more consistent and slightly higher (tested both with same shafts) with 620CB.  

 

Turf interaction was better with T100 on grass by hair. 

 

Overall, 620 CB is slightly more demanding compared to T100. 

 

I would have considered 620 CB from 4 to 6 irons and 7 to PW in 620 MB if Titleist didn't charge for every shaft & grip upgrade on top of the premium they charge for their brand recognition.

 

Mizuno and Srixon offer free upgrades to most shafts and grips which I think is fantastic.

 

Because at the end of the day, most clubs are so good and perform well regardless from which company these days that every little offer from the manufacturer tips over the consumers.

I agree...except from what I have seen the new Srixon’s won’t be giving Project LZ as a free shaft where Titleist does (did a Titleist Thursday and the 6.0 were money). Have to try the ZX7 and see if Modus 120 give the same feel/numbers. 

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4 hours ago, Theweekday said:

A strange year for everyone.. what was the difference from the cb to the t100?

They literally look identical at setup. Fractionally larger with the t100 but again most people wont notice. The biggest difference for me, is the feel. T100 has that hollow pop feel too it. Cb is more solid feeling like a blade type feel. 

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1 hour ago, Red4282 said:

They literally look identical at setup. Fractionally larger with the t100 but again most people wont notice. The biggest difference for me, is the feel. T100 has that hollow pop feel too it. Cb is more solid feeling like a blade type feel. 

Interesting to see that perspective.. the cf16’s I own felt similar (in my

mind) to my buddies 718 ap2’s. I would definitely like something softer or less clicky in the short irons for my next set. 

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2 hours ago, kepeollie said:

I agree...except from what I have seen the new Srixon’s won’t be giving Project LZ as a free shaft where Titleist does (did a Titleist Thursday and the 6.0 were money). Have to try the ZX7 and see if Modus 120 give the same feel/numbers. 

 If you are Project X LZ type of guy, make sure you demo Modus 120 X flex.

 

Edit: Even if Srixon upcharges on certain shafts it will still turn out to be cheaper than Titleist's.

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16 hours ago, hypergolf said:

 

I used to be a die hard Mizuno iron user but I don't know what has changed in the MP 20 range... Didn't like them at all. I never looked at Titleist irons until I tried the T100/T100S and 620 CB. Srixon?? Never even considered them but now they are in my bag... A strange year for me...

 

In my case, it's mainly because my regular golf shopping haunt doesn't carry any new Mizuno stuff, but does have new Srixon, Bridgestone, and Honma product. I'm interested in trying the MP20 range, but I'm not so bothered by it that I'll go out of my way to do it. That said, I did recently pick up a current model Flight-hi #4, though I got it secondhand.

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4 hours ago, hypergolf said:

 

First of all you will have slight distance loss with 620 CB compared to T100 although CB edges in feel when you pure it. 

Spin rate is more consistent and slightly higher (tested both with same shafts) with 620CB.  

 

Turf interaction was better with T100 on grass by hair. 

 

Overall, 620 CB is slightly more demanding compared to T100. 

 

I would have considered 620 CB from 4 to 6 irons and 7 to PW in 620 MB if Titleist didn't charge for every shaft & grip upgrade on top of the premium they charge for their brand recognition.

 

Mizuno and Srixon offer free upgrades to most shafts and grips which I think is fantastic.

 

Because at the end of the day, most clubs are so good and perform well regardless from which company these days that every little offer from the manufacturer tips over the consumers.

Consistent spin rate is definitely something I’m looking for as well. I also have absolutely 0 brand loyalty, and agree that pretty much all club makers make pretty equal products in their respective categories. The one club I wish that there was more reviews on is the X forged CB. The reviews I have seen have shown a pretty consistent spin rate and decent forgiveness. The only downside is that I have held those irons (didn’t get to hit them) and they do have considerably visible offset, which is a turn off for me. However maybe getting them bent 1* weak would do the trick. 

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I vote for the MMC; I have hit a bunch of irons and they work best for my swing.  I keep trying others for the heck of it and nothing I have found is better. 

 

they are all great sets: whether they are great for you is what you really need to determine 

 

BTW, I have found the entire range of MMC irons to be easy to hit. I am confident teeing off from our 220 yd par 3 with my 4-iron.  Granted, it is a big green, but I hit it more often than not.  I bought a hot metal pro 4-iron as a test and returned it: it wasn't any more forgiving than the MMC 4-iron  

 

You should be fine if you are a good ball striker; they have been nothing but easy to hit for me. 

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I'd say so far the late 2020/21 release has been pretty darn awesome!!!! You got Taylormade's P7MC/MB, Srixon's ZX5/7, Mizuno's JPX 921/Tour, Callaway's X Forged CB / Apex MB, and the list goes on and on. I honestly wasn't due for a new set of irons this year, but with all the great options I couldn't resist! I ended up ordering a very special set of Callaway Apex MB 21 irons that I am waiting to arrive. It will be really interesting to see if these kick my old faithful Miura TB's out the bag!   

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Wondering if anyone here has followed a similar path.  I'm back in the game after a decade long layoff and have really wanted to dedicate the next 2 years to improving my ball striking and scoring with a single digit HC goal.  Played a bunch of rounds this summer with my old GI Pings and got my HC down to ~16, former baseball player, good eye hand coordination long off the tee and a ~175 7i distance, the problem is I have a very steep swing and a nasty slice/push slice so I am rebuilding my swing from the ground up.

 

The old Pings shovels I was playing are very forgiving with mis-hits but with my goal of fixing a broken swing and not just hitting the most forgiving iron I picked up a set of MP20 MMCs from someone here for a smoking deal with the logic that if I'm determined to fix my ball striking I should have a set of irons that highlight my misses.

 

I have lots of time to practice and live <5 minutes from my club, so I guess what I'm asking is has anyone here played irons likely out of their league and successfully practiced their way in to them?  Fixing my slice and ball striking is my number 1 priority over immediate scoring. It took me a few weeks to get used to the thin topline and smaller body but I'm confident taking them on the course now but my scoring has definitely taken hit.

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