Byron or Lajosi???

[LionGolfer]

Per MattM97, if you really want a bespoke custom, go Lajosi.  For me between the 2, its Lajosi any day.

[fharbist]

Byron Order Form 2015.pdf

[SoonerRack]

2 minutes ago, fharbist said:

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[nuclei]

On 4/15/2021 at 6:08 PM, LionGolfer said:

Per MattM97, if you really want a bespoke custom, go Lajosi.  For me between the 2, its Lajosi any day.

 

Couldn't agree more.  I'm partial to old school blade designs, I have a couple from both guys, both were easy to communicate with, but Kari was extra engaged and his milling is second to none IMHO.  But that's splitting hairs, both are true craftsman.  I even gave Kari specs to the millimeter and degree, and he nailed them all.  (middle one in pic)

 

[j.a.]

Kari Lajosi mills everything in house. I’ve been in his workshop whose main business is engineering work. He has fantastic machines that he uses for building complex pieces or putters, that’s why he can do whatever customised request that anyone may have. Kari even forge his own Damascus in house.

 

I have three great putters from him, a DD201WB and two L-blade flange (aka Bullseye flange) one in CS and the second in SS.

 

Contrary to most of you that prefer Byron because he is in the US, I’m in Australia, so for me it’s easier to deal with Kari.

[MattM97]

46 minutes ago, j.a. said:

Kari Lajosi mills everything in house. I’ve been in his workshop whose main business is engineering work. He has fantastic machines that he uses for building complex pieces or putters, that’s why he can do whatever customised request that anyone may have. Kari even forge his own Damascus in house.

 

I have three great putters from him, a DD201WB and two L-blade flange (aka Bullseye flange) one in CS and the second in SS.

 

Contrary to most of you that prefer Byron because he is in the US, I’m in Australia, so for me it’s easier to deal with Kari.

 

I'm in Canada so do I go with my neighbor to the south or cousin countrymen?

 

But in reality I'm really leaning on going with Kari just based on his work and the exchange rate is basically on part. I've also heard nothing but quality things from Kari and what I want done next Kari can do but Byron can't. I guess that's the good thing about where we are at, basically endless options for putter sources.

[tleader]

Kari is a brilliant machinist and craftsman. The sky’s the limit. Makes it complicated to narrow down a design at times. 
 

Byron is “limited” to his handstamps, which I actually prefer. 
 

I’ve ordered two from Kari and 1 Byron.   Can’t go wrong with either builder. 

[th6252]

On 4/25/2021 at 9:24 PM, MattM97 said:

 

I'm in Canada so do I go with my neighbor to the south or cousin countrymen?

 

But in reality I'm really leaning on going with Kari just based on his work and the exchange rate is basically on part. I've also heard nothing but quality things from Kari and what I want done next Kari can do but Byron can't. I guess that's the good thing about where we are at, basically endless options for putter sources.

If you’re willing to be patient, Kari’s work is outstanding.  Got a custom DD201 WB a few years back as a wedding gift and it is still my favorite putter of all time.

mid I ever get a chance to do another custom from him, the LP421 is next in the list.

[MattM97]

40 minutes ago, th6252 said:

If you’re willing to be patient, Kari’s work is outstanding.  Got a custom DD201 WB a few years back as a wedding gift and it is still my favorite putter of all time.

mid I ever get a chance to do another custom from him, the LP421 is next in the list.

 

I'll be contacting him soon about a custom Sensor. I'm not going to worry about the time cause I know it will be good, plus I have other stuff in the works to keep me occupied.

[th6252]

1 hour ago, MattM97 said:

 

I'll be contacting him soon about a custom Sensor. I'm not going to worry about the time cause I know it will be good, plus I have other stuff in the works to keep me occupied.

To be fair to Kari, he initially quoted me 12 weeks, but I received my putter in 10.

[MattM97]

32 minutes ago, th6252 said:

To be fair to Kari, he initially quoted me 12 weeks, but I received my putter in 10.

 

That's nothing right now. Most guys are 8-12 if you're lucky, some longer and some shorter but that's rare. 

[th6252]

10 hours ago, MattM97 said:

 

That's nothing right now. Most guys are 8-12 if you're lucky, some longer and some shorter but that's rare. 

Good point, didn't even think about the fact it was pre-covid.

[Judge Smales]

This may not be appropriate for this thread, but what is the lead time on Byron putters right now?

[Rory4Pres]

On 4/15/2021 at 2:34 PM, Phabs said:

 

 

Kari does a comparable milling he calls Ultra fine.  I went with that on several putters and love it.

 

I haven't used Byron but I think you are a safe bet using either of these guys.  Both are outstanding.

[Fairway14]

On 4/30/2021 at 10:12 AM, Judge Smales said:

This may not be appropriate for this thread, but what is the lead time on Byron putters right now?

 

My experience with ordering Byron putters is that stock stainless heads with a polished or bead blast finish are produced and shipped within 2 to 3 weeks. Byron produces the above at his shop.

However, if the order is for a carbon head with finishes such as black oxide, oil can, copper plate etc...Byron sends those heads out to be finished and that process can take one month to several months or more. I believe he collects at least a few putter head orders for a specific finish before he sends them out together to be finished.

The above is the way Byron did things a couple of years ago, but I have not ordered any putters from him during 2020 or 2021, so I am not sure about his current procedures. For sure he knows how to design and produce sensational quality putters, no doubt about that.

[DannyNoonin]

On 4/30/2021 at 11:12 AM, Judge Smales said:

This may not be appropriate for this thread, but what is the lead time on Byron putters right now?

Mine took 17 weeks. Stainless 620. Blue oil finish (in house). But hey, at least when I got the putter it was made incorrectly. 

[Judge Smales]

3 minutes ago, DannyNoonin said:

Mine took 17 weeks. Stainless 620. Blue oil finish (in house). But hey, at least when I got the putter it was made incorrectly. 

Exact same experience. Just got my putter last week. I had to hound them for updates. Then I was finally emailed that it had shipped, but no tracking. Hounded then for that and got a screenshot of a FedEx receipt. Finally got the damn thing. Wrong weight, no stability shaft as requested (and for which I paid), and wrong grip. Biggest waste of $1,000+ ever. If I cared enough, I’d raise hell. But the putter is already on my bench. Total disaster. 

[MattM97]

26 minutes ago, DannyNoonin said:

Mine took 17 weeks. Stainless 620. Blue oil finish (in house). But hey, at least when I got the putter it was made incorrectly. 

 

19 minutes ago, Judge Smales said:

Exact same experience. Just got my putter last week. I had to hound them for updates. Then I was finally emailed that it had shipped, but no tracking. Hounded then for that and got a screenshot of a FedEx receipt. Finally got the damn thing. Wrong weight, no stability shaft as requested (and for which I paid), and wrong grip. Biggest waste of $1,000+ ever. If I cared enough, I’d raise hell. But the putter is already on my bench. Total disaster. 

 

Neither of those experiences sound good, I would be extremely upset. I was possibly thinking of the 620 when Byron got some in LH but I think I'm just going to skip that. Would buy a used Byron but they never show up for some reason. 

 

Hope you guys get that straightened out. 

[MPAndreassi]

28 minutes ago, DannyNoonin said:

Mine took 17 weeks. Stainless 620. Blue oil finish (in house). But hey, at least when I got the putter it was made incorrectly. 

 

22 minutes ago, Judge Smales said:

Exact same experience. Just got my putter last week. I had to hound them for updates. Then I was finally emailed that it had shipped, but no tracking. Hounded then for that and got a screenshot of a FedEx receipt. Finally got the damn thing. Wrong weight, no stability shaft as requested (and for which I paid), and wrong grip. Biggest waste of $1,000+ ever. If I cared enough, I’d raise hell. But the putter is already on my bench. Total disaster. 

This is making me nervous. Ordered mine back in February. A carbon 620 in oil can. Nothing really special about it except for the weight I requested. Haven’t received any communication from them unless I reached out first. 

[DannyNoonin]

21 minutes ago, Judge Smales said:

Exact same experience. Just got my putter last week. I had to hound them for updates. Then I was finally emailed that it had shipped, but no tracking. Hounded then for that and got a screenshot of a FedEx receipt. Finally got the damn thing. Wrong weight, no stability shaft as requested (and for which I paid), and wrong grip. Biggest waste of $1,000+ ever. If I cared enough, I’d raise hell. But the putter is already on my bench. Total disaster. 

Yep. Horrible communication with numerous excuses that made no sense. Was told it was needing to go off for finish, but I knew it was an in house finish as its my 4th one. Mine was supposed to be two tone, but was made all one color. The stamping was wrong. The lie angle was off 4* and the loft was off. Didn't bother checking the weight. Also got the wrong headcover. After all the headaches I'll never use the putter. Sweet paper weight though. 

[Judge Smales]

19 minutes ago, MattM97 said:

 

 

Neither of those experiences sound good, I would be extremely upset. I was possibly thinking of the 620 when Byron got some in LH but I think I'm just going to skip that. Would buy a used Byron but they never show up for some reason. 

 

Hope you guys get that straightened out. 

I’ve got a very lightly used one…

[MattM97]

I just have to say I just realized it's a Caddyshack reunion in here with Danny and Judge Smalls. 

 

2 minutes ago, Judge Smales said:

I’ve got a very lightly used one…

 

Probably not left handed I assume? 

[DannyNoonin]

7 minutes ago, MattM97 said:

I just have to say I just realized it's a Caddyshack reunion in here with Danny and Judge Smalls. 

 

 

Probably not left handed I assume? 

That's hilarious. I didn't even notice. 

[DannyNoonin]

40 minutes ago, MattM97 said:

 

 

Neither of those experiences sound good, I would be extremely upset. I was possibly thinking of the 620 when Byron got some in LH but I think I'm just going to skip that. Would buy a used Byron but they never show up for some reason. 

 

Hope you guys get that straightened out. 

In terms of it getting straightened out. I will be careful in what I say here, but I reached out to tell them it was incorrect. I was basically told I was wrong and just be cool with how great it looks despite the order form being clear as day. No type of offer to fix it or make it right. Needless to say it's the last time I ever order anything from them. 

[MattM97]

Just now, DannyNoonin said:

In terms of it getting straightened out. I will be careful in what I say here, but I reached out to tell them it was incorrect. I was basically told I was wrong and just be cool with how great it looks despite the order form being clear as day. No type of offer to fix it or make it right. Needless to say it's the last time I ever order anything from them. 

 

Wow what a crock of sh*t. I'd be going to my bank with my order form, with my putter and with all the emails and begin a charge back. Watch how much they laugh when they get hit with that. 

[LionGolfer]

On 6/4/2021 at 11:10 PM, DannyNoonin said:

Mine took 17 weeks. Stainless 620. Blue oil finish (in house). But hey, at least when I got the putter it was made incorrectly. 

Did the Blue oil stay blue for long?  

[Scotty1140]

13 hours ago, LionGolfer said:

Did the Blue oil stay blue for long?  

I can’t imagine it would. Doesn’t seem to take well to stainless. Most seem to fade and turn a bit brownish over time. 
 

Blue Oil over carbon is miles better. 

[RobotDoctor]

Was the communication when ordering done directly with Byron or with one of his sales people?  I have ordered several putters directly from Byron and every one was made exactly to the specification and stampings I wanted.  Also, the time frame was always less than 8-10 weeks and that was due to copper plating.  Byron has always been upfront with me regarding the plating process and that he will send off a lot of putters to be plated and that would add to the delay.  I have always accepted delays due to copper plating.

It is very unfortunate about the bad experiences others have had.  My experience, and many others as well, has been nothing but exceptional time and time again.  Good luck to those trying to work out their issues.

[Judge Smales]

4 minutes ago, RobotDoctor said:

Was the communication when ordering done directly with Byron or with one of his sales people?  I have ordered several putters directly from Byron and every one was made exactly to the specification and stampings I wanted.  Also, the time frame was always less than 8-10 weeks and that was due to copper plating.  Byron has always been upfront with me regarding the plating process and that he will send off a lot of putters to be plated and that would add to the delay.  I have always accepted delays due to copper plating.

It is very unfortunate about the bad experiences others have had.  My experience, and many others as well, has been nothing but exceptional time and time again.  Good luck to those trying to work out their issues.

Sales people. I won’t name names, but he was garbage. 

[RobotDoctor]

3 minutes ago, Judge Smales said:

Sales people. I won’t name names, but he was garbage. 

 

With respects to the sales people, I would recommend talking directly to Byron Morgan.  I have always done that and he's been great.