Tour Ping G430 LST and Max drivers, G430 Max fairway wood & G430 hybrid – 2022 Shriners Children's Open

[Pleasedwith3putts]

Headweight is the whole reason I've been trying to get this thread off the ground

 

You've got to factor in that Ping has a lighter adaptor and tends to use heavier removable weights into the equation, as that defines the ability to achieve similar weights to other brands. So for instance the one contributor so far to 430 max head-weight measured 180g with no weights and it coming as 199g including the 19g weight. Throw in 4g for the adapter and that's 203g. Separate feedback is target weight for TSR2 / 3 are around 187g mark without weights, the adapter is about 4g heavier so the stock weight of 9g takes it to the same ballpark.

[ukbigbluechad]

4 minutes ago, Pleasedwith3putts said:

Headweight is the whole reason I've been trying to get this thread off the ground

 

You've got to factor in that Ping has a lighter adaptor and tends to use heavier removable weights into the equation, as that defines the ability to achieve similar weights to other brands. So for instance the one contributor so far to 430 max head-weight measured 180g with no weights and it coming as 199g including the 19g weight. Throw in 4g for the adapter and that's 203g. Separate feedback is target weight for TSR2 / 3 are around 187g mark without weights, the adapter is about 4g heavier so the stock weight of 9g takes it to the same ballpark.

Understood. I have a TSR with a VR 60TX tipped 1” playing at 45.75”. The 430 was suited with a Kai’li blue 60TX tipped 1” playing at 45.75”. The difference in head weight is unreal. The 430 is a sledge hammer and I lost 5 mph club head speed. I’ve ordered a 14g weight for the ping to see if it helps. Someone commented that the normal LST head weight is 208. That’s closer to a fairway wood than competitors driver. Too heavy for me 

[Pleasedwith3putts]

Ping quote 206g for the max and 208g for the LST on their website. They have a habit of doing things "their way" like having the weight of the cut not raw shaft. So not certain if that might include 4g for the adapter, to date I've heard of a Max at 199g and LST at 205g both without adaptor. All additional feedback appreciated, I'm still using a G410 at 199g without adapter.

[ukbigbluechad]

31 minutes ago, Pleasedwith3putts said:

Ping quote 206g for the max and 208g for the LST on their website. They have a habit of doing things "their way" like having the weight of the cut not raw shaft. So not certain if that might include 4g for the adapter, to date I've heard of a Max at 199g and LST at 205g both without adaptor. All additional feedback appreciated, I'm still using a G410 at 199g without adapter.

The 430 LST I have is 205 without adapter. 

[70sinsight]

2 minutes ago, ukbigbluechad said:

The 430 LST I have is 205 without adapter. 

One thing I've noticed also is that it might depend on swing weight. My previous 425 LST was 206g without the adapter and came with the 17 gram weight. I cracked the face and received a replacement, still with the 17 gram weight but this one weighed in at 200. When I called Ping, they told me they had melted the additional 6g to reach my swingweight, but did not do it on the replacement head 🤦‍♂️

[Mp14forlife]

Is the heavy head weight all predicated on the ping counterbalanced shaft? Deviate from that shaft and you may run into swing weight issues? 

[Strategery]

5 minutes ago, Mp14forlife said:

Is the heavy head weight all predicated on the ping counterbalanced shaft? Deviate from that shaft and you may run into swing weight issues? 

It may be partially compensated for by club length.

For example, if you order the Max with Alta CB, you get 45.75" @ D3. If you order with Tour 2.0 Chrome, you get 45.25" @ D3. I wonder if there is other trickery since the Alta CB is a heavily counterbalanced shaft.

[pmang]

Does anyone find the new version of the Ping Tour Chrome shaft a lot smoother/softer than the prior generation? 

[Drew-1986]

1 hour ago, Pleasedwith3putts said:

Ping quote 206g for the max and 208g for the LST on their website. They have a habit of doing things "their way" like having the weight of the cut not raw shaft. So not certain if that might include 4g for the adapter, to date I've heard of a Max at 199g and LST at 205g both without adaptor. All additional feedback appreciated, I'm still using a G410 at 199g without adapter.

If you go look at the specs of the shafts in G430 fairway woods you’ll notice there’s a difference in the weights of the same shafts driver to fairway wood, like 5 grams plus in the Ping shafts

[webber]

You guys crack me up complaining about 6 or so grams.  A penny is roughly 2g.  You lost 5mph of swingspeed cause you had the equivalent of 3 pennies in headweight?  Ping's drivers are a bit heavier swingweight than most typically because they feel it's a better MOI.  But nowadays Titleist is D5 at 45.5" right?  Taylormade is D5 at 45.75" right?  

[JourdanM]

TLDR, has anyone compared the tour chrome and black ?

[AzSuperHack76]

2 hours ago, pmang said:

Does anyone find the new version of the Ping Tour Chrome shaft a lot smoother/softer than the prior generation? 

100%. I felt the old Tour shaft was a little stiff/boardy. 

[AzSuperHack76]

Woo hoo!!! Just got my shipping notification. Sign up for a FedEx acct., enter your address, it should pop up if you preordered. Looks like label was created, boxed up and date looks to be 1/26. I’m local to Ping so I’m guessing it will be here the day of the release.

 

 

 

Edited January 20, 2023 by AzSuperHack76

[Gareth]

23 minutes ago, AzSuperHack76 said:

100%. I felt the old Tour shaft was a little stiff/boardy. 

Agreed. The old Tour 65 was (in stiff flex) hard work indeed.

[Grouchykona]

Nice surprise . .  just picked up my pre-ordered G430 driver (ordered on 1/10):

G430 Max 10.5 with HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX 60 6.5 flex. Ordered standard specs. For those wondering, the HZRDUS shaft is real (Hexcel-Hextow) and not “made-for”. 
 

@Pleasedwith3putts here are some specs:

Headweight without rear tungsten = 178g

Rear tungsten = 25g

Total weight with tungsten = 203g

[Brooks_Cupcake]

Spent time hitting about 10 balls today with the 9* 430LST with my buddy’s OG blue 7x and the feel was the best I have felt with any Ping driver, maybe ever.

4th ball in…

Obviously need 10.5 at -1 but pretty amazing for me with no warmup and getting it out there.

[JungleJimbo]

On 1/20/2023 at 1:00 PM, beluga99 said:

 

Rick is a genuine 8-10 HC with a lot of club head speed, so his G430 review should be a real litmus test.  Be interesting to see if he can straighten out his hooky tee ball.  This club should be right up his alley.

 

 

 

[Pleasedwith3putts]

I've seen a couple of reviews now suggesting higher spin with 430 Max than 425. Might be because of heavier weight at the back as part of adding even more forgiveness

[elwhippy]

Watched a selection of online reviews and not one extra yard. TBH Stealth 2 and Paraglider are the same. 

[cflo2382]

1 hour ago, elwhippy said:

Watched a selection of online reviews and not one extra yard. TBH Stealth 2 and Paraglider are the same. 

Paraglider! 😆

[BubbaBallesteros]

3 hours ago, Pleasedwith3putts said:

I've seen a couple of reviews now suggesting higher spin with 430 Max than 425. Might be because of heavier weight at the back as part of adding even more forgiveness

The G430 Max back weight is actually 1g less than the G425 Max (25g vs. 26g). I'd say the extra spin has to do with the new spinsistancy face curvature and the reviewer's strike location. 

[Morry]

1 hour ago, BubbaBallesteros said:

The G430 Max back weight is actually 1g less than the G425 Max (25g vs. 26g). I'd say the extra spin has to do with the new spinsistancy face curvature and the reviewer's strike location. 

Higher Spin is the BEST news I have heard 

Cannot wait to try mine - ships next week I am told 

[pmang]

26 minutes ago, Morry said:

Higher Spin is the BEST news I have heard 

Cannot wait to try mine - ships next week I am told 

Yes, correct amount of spin is more important than low spin. I like Rocco Mediate’s opinion on this.

[JourdanM]

Can anyone comment on and / or compare the tour 2.0 shaft options to other aftermarket shafts?

[Grouchykona]

This driver is good. REALLY good!  Played a round today with my G430Max, Ventus Red 6x @44.75” D3.
Currently playing to 8 hdcp so not finding center of face as much as I’d like, here’s my initial comparison to my G425Max. 

 

SOUND: Way better and I mean WAY better. My G425Max was hotmelted (about 5 grams) and I thought it sounded pretty good but the G430 still sounds so much better. My regular playing partner even commented on how good it sounded. 
 

SPIN:  Without launch monitor I can’t tell you specifically how much, but the G430 is definitely higher spin for me.  A good thing for me cuz I’m a low-spin player and sometimes my miss with G425 was too low spin and fell out of air too quickly. Didn’t have that problem with G430. 
 

FORGIVENESS:  Due to a bit higher spin, G430 felt more forgiving. Kept spin up nicely on off center hits. I think I pulled driver on 9 holes today and only missed 2 fairways and those misses were not by much. 

Although both my G425 and G430 heads weighs exactly 203 grams without adapter, the G430 felt easier to swing and faster. Maybe the turbulators are more aerodynamic this year 😀

I think Ping has a winner with the G430. Gonna have a hard time resisting upgrading my G425 FW and hybrid next. 

 

[JourdanM]

Is the max closed / draw biased? Left miss guys having success ?

[Strategery]

56 minutes ago, Grouchykona said:

SOUND: Way better and I mean WAY better. My G425Max was hotmelted (about 5 grams) and I thought it sounded pretty good but the G430 still sounds so much better. My regular playing partner even commented on how good it sounded.

You *added* 5g to that sledgehammer? What did you do to manage swingweight?

 

[pmang]

1 minute ago, Strategery said:

You *added* 5g to that sledgehammer? What did you do to manage swingweight?

 

Most folks order a lighter back weight then add hotmelt so you don’t make it a sledgehammer. 

[Grouchykona]

2 minutes ago, Strategery said:

You *added* 5g to that sledgehammer? What did you do to manage swingweight?

 

Played it with a 23g rear tungsten weight (instead of factory 26g)

[pmang]

1 minute ago, Grouchykona said:

Played it with a 23g rear tungsten weight (instead of factory 26g)

Correct.