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Dang those look good PXG!

On the list to try.

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PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317CB, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN6 0311XP, Double Black, 4 -LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

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1 minute ago, boggyman said:

I was thinking Cobra….

Maybe. I cant remember who did the little fin thingy first. I was thinking Taylormade but it could have been Cobra. 

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Angles may be influencing the look but is the BOT1 with the top crown seam look smaller than the BOT3 on the right?  The back weights also appear to be different with the BOT 1 having a seam vs the BOT3.

 

Perhaps a 430cc vs 460cc.....this write-up seems to think the same idea......

 

The most glaring difference between the standard and the TOUR-1 model is the position of the weights. The TOUR-1 still offers a 3-weight system, but in this version, the heel and to weights are placed more centrally, while the rear weight is posited behind the pulled down section of the sole.

To me, this suggests a more forward center of gravity design, which presumably offers lower spin albeit with lower MOI.

While the USGA’s photos are anything but conclusive (scale is always a challenge), the could suggest a driver that is a bit more compact front-to-back- than the others.

The current 0311 lineup doesn’t offer anything that would challenge the lowest spinning drivers on the market, so there is room in the PXG lineup.

 

-Also wondering why not call these Black Ops Tour Drivers 0317 instead of 0311 which would fit for the Players segment of PXG clubs?

 

 

 

 

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PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317CB, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN6 0311XP, Double Black, 4 -LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

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I like PXG’s weighting system

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16 hours ago, boggyman said:

I was thinking Cobra driver…..

I immediately thought of Cobra Fly-Z. Best looking PXG drivers to date.

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On 11/14/2023 at 12:05 PM, RH82 said:

I like the cleaner crown on the "3" model.

I agree.

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Great looking drivers. Looking forward to testing the 2024 drivers and seeing how they all stack up. 

Driver = Ping 430 LST

Hybrid = Cobra LTDX 
Irons = 4 iron Callaway TCB

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On 11/14/2023 at 10:02 AM, BirdieBob said:

Angles may be influencing the look but is the BOT1 with the top crown seam look smaller than the BOT3 on the right?  The back weights also appear to be different with the BOT 1 having a seam vs the BOT3.

 

Perhaps a 430cc vs 460cc.....this write-up seems to think the same idea......

 

The most glaring difference between the standard and the TOUR-1 model is the position of the weights. The TOUR-1 still offers a 3-weight system, but in this version, the heel and to weights are placed more centrally, while the rear weight is posited behind the pulled down section of the sole.

To me, this suggests a more forward center of gravity design, which presumably offers lower spin albeit with lower MOI.

While the USGA’s photos are anything but conclusive (scale is always a challenge), the could suggest a driver that is a bit more compact front-to-back- than the others.

The current 0311 lineup doesn’t offer anything that would challenge the lowest spinning drivers on the market, so there is room in the PXG lineup.

 

-Also wondering why not call these Black Ops Tour Drivers 0317 instead of 0311 which would fit for the Players segment of PXG clubs?

 

 

 

 

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“Also wondering why not call these Black Ops Tour Drivers 0317 instead of 0311 which would fit for the Players segment of PXG clubs?”


I see your point, but guess one can argue that similar heads in the low spinning and compact category aren’t just reserved/targeted for “player” or “tour” type categories. On the flip side larger heads with max forgiveness, high MOI aren’t just reserved/targeted to inconsistent or moderate swing ball strikers. Using TSR line for example; many tour pros are using the bigger and higher MOI TSR2. Mid handicappers or inconsistent ball strikers who need to drop spin, are fitted into TSR3s. Thinking since the 0317 naming convention in the irons are specifically targeting “players” or “better players” category. PXG (in terms of both marketing and target players), didn’t want to throw the 0317 label and scare off the non-players categories or put them in the 0311 box IMO.

 

My personal preference, now that they have a distinction in the iron category of 0317 vs. 0311 player, is to just remove 0311 from the metal woods and hybrid line. Maybe just call it something else with a “LS” designation or number/alpha indicated that indicates it’s an LS vs. higher MOI/forgiveness model. 

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5 hours ago, HarborMike said:

“Also wondering why not call these Black Ops Tour Drivers 0317 instead of 0311 which would fit for the Players segment of PXG clubs?”


I see your point, but guess one can argue that similar heads in the low spinning and compact category aren’t just reserved/targeted for “player” or “tour” type categories. On the flip side larger heads with max forgiveness, high MOI aren’t just reserved/targeted to inconsistent or moderate swing ball strikers. Using TSR line for example; many tour pros are using the bigger and higher MOI TSR2. Mid handicappers or inconsistent ball strikers who need to drop spin, are fitted into TSR3s. Thinking since the 0317 naming convention in the irons are specifically targeting “players” or “better players” category. PXG (in terms of both marketing and target players), didn’t want to throw the 0317 label and scare off the non-players categories or put them in the 0311 box IMO.

 

My personal preference, now that they have a distinction in the iron category of 0317 vs. 0311 player, is to just remove 0311 from the metal woods and hybrid line. Maybe just call it something else with a “LS” designation or number/alpha indicated that indicates it’s an LS vs. higher MOI/forgiveness model. 

 

Since they are calling the new drivers Black Ops "TOUR" seems sufficient reason to move them to the 0317 line instead of keeping them as 0311 Drivers.  The standard Black Ops could remain as the 0311 line Driver.

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FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

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I 1st I thought it had a similar look to a PING but the more I look at pictures they must have worked out a deal with TaylorMade

 

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On 11/14/2023 at 1:47 PM, puresurfr said:

 

I think Ryoma did that before TM

Maybe so to their 2011 model but please don't compare PXG to Ryoma  at least no to the Maxima Type V or Type D. 

 

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43 minutes ago, mtnbiker5 said:

Try the new PXG drivers.  They’re hands down the best.  Black Ops can’t launch soon enough so I can throw my Paradym in my fire pit  

Prove it!  Want to see this fire pit of yours.

 

PXG is going to come out with a new driver next year.  Are you going to throw the Black Ops in the fire pit when that comes out?

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Gen 6 0311 XF i put against my current Paradym at my local PXG store.  Key take aways which surprised me was dispersion.  Distance was almost on par to where I am now with Callaway averaging 270-280.   PXG was clearly tighter for me.  Same exact shaft as well in both.  Sound and feel very good.   My PXG rep said hold off for now.  Black Ops coming and already it’s being called their best to date.  I believe early 2024 launch.  Worst case scenario, I pay full price on Black Ops but get a driver I absolutely love over my Paradym or, I buy Gen 6 at a discounted price.  Win win.  

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On 11/15/2023 at 2:01 AM, QuigleyDU said:

Maybe. I cant remember who did the little fin thingy first. I was thinking Taylormade but it could have been Cobra. 

 

On 11/15/2023 at 2:47 AM, puresurfr said:

 

I think Ryoma did that before TM

 

 

 

@hammergolf Do you still have the photo attached to this post of yours w.r.t. the Adams 2008 driver with the weight Low & Back, that inspired Taylormade's "Inertia Generator"?
(i.e. from this 13 Jan 2022 post ... somehow it's just showing as a broken Link ... see screenshot #1).

 

...e.g. might be as easy as viewing "My Attachments" in your Golfwrx profile

(see screenshot #2 ... Top-Right of your GolfWrx forums page, via dropdown menu, there's a "My Attachments" button).

 

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1 hour ago, JungleJimbo said:

 

 

 

 

@hammergolf Do you still have the photo attached to this post of yours w.r.t. the Adams 2008 driver with the weight Low & Back, that inspired Taylormade's "Inertia Generator"?
(i.e. from this 13 Jan 2022 post ... somehow it's just showing as a broken Link ... see screenshot #1).

 

...e.g. might be as easy as viewing "My Attachments" in your Golfwrx profile

(see screenshot #2 ... Top-Right of your GolfWrx forums page, via dropdown menu, there's a "My Attachments" button).

 

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Sorry to interrupt, and go off topic.  Dark mode golfwrx? Is that a browser extension?

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6 minutes ago, Puttersaurus Rex said:

Sorry to interrupt, and go off topic.  Dark mode golfwrx? Is that a browser extension?

 

yes it's a google chrome extension called "Dark Reader" & it's fabulous.

 

Here's the Link (usual caveat i.e. "do your own due-diligence" before downloading).

 

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/dark-reader/eimadpbcbfnmbkopoojfekhnkhdbieeh 

 

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    • 2024 The American Express - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2024 The American Express - Monday #1
      2024 The American Express - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Carl Yuan - WITB - 2024 The American Express
      Hayden Buckley - WITB - 2024 The American Express
      Parker Coody - WITB - 2024 The American Express
      Pierceson Coody - WITB - 2024 The American Express
      Will Zalatoris - WITB - 2024 The American Express
      Andrew Novak - WITB - 2024 The American Express
      Joe Highsmith - WITB - 2024 The American Express
      Jason Dufner - WITB - 2024 The American Express
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 The American Express
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      ProTec irons - 2024 The American Express
      New Cameron putters - 2024 The American Express
      New Ping PLD putters - 2024 The American Express
      Rickie Fowler's 3D printed 60* wedge - 2024 The American Express
      Jason Dufner with new putter device - 2024 The American Express
      New Bettinardi putters - 2024 The American Express
      Custom Cameron Putters - 2024 The American Express
       
       
       
       
       
       
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