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8 hours ago, Lemonde said:

I’m thinking the fairway will be that 340cc Mini driver that Xander was testing. Someone posted the serial # on his tester was retail.  Anyone know if the S model will be 420cc like last year? 

Yes, but it's seriously low spin.  I've seen a 10.5 in lefty recently.  Couldn't play it, so I have the TD model with a bit of tour sauce added.

Ai Smoke 💎💎💎 9*, Diamana PD 60TX (D3) 8GF, 18GB 44.5"

ST-G Ti 15*, Ventus TR Red 7X, 43"

Apex UW 19* (bent to 20*, 1* flat), AV Raw White 85X, 41" or

X-Forged UT 2i (18*) CK PW 90TX

Callaway TCB 4-PW, Accra Tour 110i (TX)

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Toulon San Diego 34" Stability Tour, Chrome Tour X

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On 2/1/2024 at 9:26 PM, third-times-a-charm said:

The TD Max is just another iteration of the old Mavrik Max Single Diamond tour-only model. CPO actually had 1 left in stock in 8.5*

 

450CC, neutral bias, taller face like a TD, but a little more stretched back for slightly more MOI. Obviously tweaks here and there due to the weight distribution and chassis difference.

 

The MOI difference is only to the tune of several hundred points if that at all.

 

You would need to be really pedantic to NEED this model. Current comps (10cc more) that are easily available and very similar are the Max LS models and the Paradym standard 'tour only' front weight model from last year....or just find a Mavrik Max Single Diamond TC on ebay for $200. The only thing you're exchanging between all these is the 10CC of volume and face height. Marginal differences in adjustability and F/D bias.

 

So how does this compare to the Smoke Max in playing or performance terms?

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1 hour ago, junkfry said:

 

So how does this compare to the Smoke Max in playing or performance terms?

My head pro has the TD MAX  and let me hit 20 balls at the range.  The best way to describe it is it's a blend of the TD and the MAX.  TD is pretty fade biased and the MAX is neutral to slightly draw biased.  TD MAX is dead neutral much like the Paradym TD from last year.  It's low spin and slightly more forgiving than the TD.  Smoke TD MAX also looks slightly different from the TD in that it doesn't quite look as deep faced. 

Callaway AI Smoke Paradym 💎💎💎9* - Tour AD VF-7TX

TM Qi10 Tour 15* - Diamana GT 80TX

TM Tour Issue Rescue 11 TP Deep Face Proto 16* - Ventus Black HB 9TX

New Level NLU-01 21* - KBS Hybrid Proto 105X

New Level 623-M 5-PW - MMT 125TX

Miura Tour 54* HB - KBS 610 125 S+, New Level SPN forged M-grind 58* - KBS Tour 130X

Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, belh22 said:

So this is coming to retail? 

There's a good chance it will hit retail within the next few months.  That's all I will say about it. 

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Callaway AI Smoke Paradym 💎💎💎9* - Tour AD VF-7TX

TM Qi10 Tour 15* - Diamana GT 80TX

TM Tour Issue Rescue 11 TP Deep Face Proto 16* - Ventus Black HB 9TX

New Level NLU-01 21* - KBS Hybrid Proto 105X

New Level 623-M 5-PW - MMT 125TX

Miura Tour 54* HB - KBS 610 125 S+, New Level SPN forged M-grind 58* - KBS Tour 130X

Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2

 

 

 

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Apparently clay was able to get his hands on one and took very detailed measurements against the other models on this Instagram post 

 

The ai smoke heads are higher lofted than stated apparently - and the triple diamond max model is only 100pts less in moi but about 800 more than the regular Td model 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6XRj_FPIYH/?igsh=MTN6YmZtbmEzbXd2ZA==

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On 5/1/2024 at 7:58 AM, Brooks_Cupcake said:


Not too sure. Just know that it’s “limited”

I purchased the limited release Rogue TD “S” from an online retailer FairwayGolfUSA.  My Paradym TD “S” came from Will.  

Callaway Paradym TD “S” 420cc 8.5 @ 10.5 Project X Evenflow Riptide MX 60TX @45.25

Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Mini 340 Shaft TBD @ 43.75”

Callaway OG Apex UW 21.0 MCA MMT 80X

Mizuno Pro 243 5-GW Nippon Modus Pro 120X

Mizuno T24 56/12S Nippon Modus Pro 120X

Cleveland RTX Full Face 2 58/8 DG Spinner

Scotty Cameron Phantom 5S 34” (Yes the Rife Phenom.Z 34” of 10+ years may be retired) 
 
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7 minutes ago, third-times-a-charm said:

Depends on your viewpoint about why something is "tour issue" at all and why you should own it, but yes.


There’s so much misinformation on here regarding TC vs TS that it is moot. It makes no difference if you’re not getting one off the Tour Truck with known specs. 
 

The goal shouldn’t be to flip this because it has a TI or TC on it.

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3 minutes ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:


There’s so much misinformation on here regarding TC vs TS that it is moot. It makes no difference if you’re not getting one off the Tour Truck with known specs. 
 

The goal shouldn’t be to flip this because it has a TI or TC on it.

I agree, but the whole point of a tour issued head regardless of model in question is the specs. Without the specs it might as well say F or V and not TC or TA.

 

The distinction lies mostly with the sticker that comes with the TC heads from the truck as the reason for getting the hard to find item.

 

So for those who just want a tweener head between the TD and Max model and dont care about FA or loft then this will be great. For those who want specifically an open face at a certain angle or etc, this release is not as exciting.

 

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Just now, third-times-a-charm said:

I agree, but the whole point of a tour issued head regardless of model in question is the specs. Without the specs it might as well say F or V and not TC or TA.

 

The distinction lies mostly with the sticker that comes with the TC heads from the truck as the reason for getting the hard to find item.

 

So for those who just want a tweener head between the TD and Max model and dont care about FA or loft then this will be great. For those who want specifically an open face at a certain angle or etc, this release is not as exciting.

 


Exactly 👍 my point. Well summed up. Only thing I don’t agree with about the excitement around the release - the excitement will come from the price point and as close to TI without the sticker.

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On 4/30/2024 at 9:36 PM, Brooks_Cupcake said:


Consumer Release May 21
Pre-Sale sometime shortly after 

 

I'm misunderstanding your comment.  Wouldn't pre-sale precede the release?  Or does the term "release" just indicate a date that it's being announced by Callaway as a thing.  Then you can order it shortly thereafter?

 

And lastly, are you sure of this date of the 21st?  I'm holding off on buying the current TD based on this notion.  I prefer a driver like the TSR3 that is a 'better player's' moderately low spin, neutral face example.  The thought of a TD Max scratches me where I itch.

 

tnx

 

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8 minutes ago, underwater said:

 

I'm misunderstanding your comment.  Wouldn't pre-sale precede the release?  Or does the term "release" just indicate a date that it's being announced by Callaway as a thing.  Then you can order it shortly thereafter?

 

And lastly, are you sure of this date of the 21st?  I'm holding off on buying the current TD based on this notion.  I prefer a driver like the TSR3 that is a 'better player's' moderately low spin, neutral face example.  The thought of a TD Max scratches me where I itch.

 

tnx

 


My order is already in 

 

Consumer Intro - May 21
Pre-Sale - May 28

 

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16 minutes ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:


My order is already in 

 

Consumer Intro - May 21
Pre-Sale - May 28

 

 

 

Looks like I'm going to be using my 3w as my driver for the next month.  Why even have a "pre-sale"?  Just announce it and sell it.  

 

Callaway always imparts every tactic from marketing playbook.

 

 

 

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On 5/3/2024 at 11:21 AM, Brooks_Cupcake said:


My order is already in 

 

Consumer Intro - May 21
Pre-Sale - May 28

 

Where did you get your order in? Help a brother out 🙂

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On 5/6/2024 at 1:51 PM, double or triple? said:

Reps will sometimes take orders ahead of time and submit them first thing day of pre order. 

Nvm found someone to take my pre-order! 

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