Maltby TS2

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  • alarsen726alarsen726 Members Posts: 26 ✭✭

    Hey popeye I’ve never owned any Maltby irons but I am gaming some mp25 right now and they don’t have the forgiveness I’m looking for. Would a ts2, ptm or dbm be a better more forgiving iron? Which would you rank the most forgiving?

    Thanks

  • Sparky14Sparky14 Members Posts: 354 ✭✭

    @alarsen726 said:
    Hey popeye I’ve never owned any Maltby irons but I am gaming some mp25 right now and they don’t have the forgiveness I’m looking for. Would a ts2, ptm or dbm be a better more forgiving iron? Which would you rank the most forgiving?

    Thanks

    Most forgiving - PTM, then TS2, then DBM...but not significant enough difference in forgiveness to worry about.

  • alarsen726alarsen726 Members Posts: 26 ✭✭

    @Sparky14 said:

    @alarsen726 said:
    Hey popeye I’ve never owned any Maltby irons but I am gaming some mp25 right now and they don’t have the forgiveness I’m looking for. Would a ts2, ptm or dbm be a better more forgiving iron? Which would you rank the most forgiving?

    Thanks

    Most forgiving - PTM, then TS2, then DBM...but not significant enough difference in forgiveness to worry about.

    Would you say the ts2 is worth the extra money over the ptm?

  • Sparky14Sparky14 Members Posts: 354 ✭✭

    Tough call on the value aspect. I found the PTM to be a bit more game improvement than I like, but 6 months after I think the Recoil shafts I had may not have been best for me. The TS2 are sweet, no doubt. If you prefer the looks and specs of the TS2, I wouldn't be bothered spending $100 more to get them. And I'd also be OK with spending $150 less for the TE Forged. They are all nice heads, and all perform well.

  • Popeye64Popeye64 Members Posts: 908 ✭✭

    @alarsen726 said:
    Hey popeye I’ve never owned any Maltby irons but I am gaming some mp25 right now and they don’t have the forgiveness I’m looking for. Would a ts2, ptm or dbm be a better more forgiving iron? Which would you rank the most forgiving?

    Thanks

    That's not a cut and dry question really. A lot of times its personal preference. The DBM has the smallest head but a very low COG and will really get the ball up quickly. The PTM has an over all head size fairly similar to the TS-2. The PTM has a wider sole and a lower COG. Visually the PTM looks a lot bigger for some reason.
    I personally like the TS-2 better so I have some bias. If I had to rank them I would Go.. PTM, TS-2, and DBM. There is an argument for shuffling the PTM and the TS-2. For me it feels like you can hit the TS-2 all over the face and do pretty well. I feel the hollow head keeps ball speeds up as you really dont lose much distance on miss hits.

    As a side not I had the TS-1s in play for a while and I just haven't fallen in love with them. I'll give them some more time but I'm going to work in some MMBs with graphite shafts.. TS-1s are Good irons but I find the TS-2 to just do things better with no drama and plenty of accuracy. The TS-1s definitely stay on the players side of the line.

  • Popeye64Popeye64 Members Posts: 908 ✭✭

    @alarsen726 said:

    @Sparky14 said:

    @alarsen726 said:
    Hey popeye I’ve never owned any Maltby irons but I am gaming some mp25 right now and they don’t have the forgiveness I’m looking for. Would a ts2, ptm or dbm be a better more forgiving iron? Which would you rank the most forgiving?

    Thanks

    Most forgiving - PTM, then TS2, then DBM...but not significant enough difference in forgiveness to worry about.

    Would you say the ts2 is worth the extra money over the ptm?

    My vote is Yes.

  • alarsen726alarsen726 Members Posts: 26 ✭✭

    Sounds like either the ptm or ts2 would work good for me. Anyone have a set laying around they’d want to sell me? 😂

  • roxaldroxald ClubWRX Posts: 469 ClubWRX

    Drop me a PM.
    Rox

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  • DFinchDFinch Members Posts: 1,370 ✭✭

    I replaced my PTM's with TS-2. The PTM looks larger, has a thinner topline, and is less forgiving high on the face but more forgiving low on the face. The blade length and thinner topline makes it look longer than the TS-2 even through they are the same length. The proportions look better with the TS-2 unless you absolutely can't look at a thick topline. I used to fall into that category, but I don't even notice the topline now. I hit more toe shots with the PTM due to the longer looking blade. I can flight the TS-2's down way easier. The sole design is magical, rivalled only by Srixon.

    The TS-2 is the best iron I've ever played and I've played a bunch in every category (my 3 favorite of all time are Macgregor 1025M blades, Taylormade R7's, and new all time favorite TS-2).

    Titleist TS3 9.5* Evenflow White / Cobra F6 3W 14.5* / Cobra F6 Baffler 17.5* / Maltby TS2 DG105 X100 / Taylormade Hi-Toe 54*/60* / Evnroll ER8 Gravity Grip / Snell MTB X
  • alarsen726alarsen726 Members Posts: 26 ✭✭

    @roxald said:
    Drop me a PM.
    Rox

    Sent

  • T.B.T.B. Members Posts: 160 ✭✭

    Was at golf works and these irons look and feel wonderful. They look so much better in person than the do in catalog. Looking forward to getting a set soon. I also heard they have a new driver out this summer that is going to make a big splash,,,according to some employees who’ve seen it and hit proto types

  • KaiserSozeKaiserSoze Members Posts: 90 ✭✭

    @T.B. said:
    Was at golf works and these irons look and feel wonderful. They look so much better in person than the do in catalog. Looking forward to getting a set soon. I also heard they have a new driver out this summer that is going to make a big splash,,,according to some employees who’ve seen it and hit proto types

    Are you referring to the ISO-T currently on the website but not yet released?

  • ninjabninjab Members Posts: 125 ✭✭

    High handicapper loving TS-1 build so far, irons are hitting great, now my woods are hacking...

  • OrangeGravyOrangeGravy WAMembers Posts: 1,158 ✭✭

    Does anyone that started with a "demo" TS2 test head/shaft and moved on to the purchase the full set, still have the test club they might be willing to part with?

  • artist08artist08 Members Posts: 719 ✭✭

    I just added my demo 7-iron right into the set. I bought a TS-1 8-iron to test (in case I wanted to build a split set) but just went all TS-2. So now I have just the TS-1 8-iron head. So if anyone is interested PM me.

  • WoodrowWoodrow Members Posts: 256 ✭✭

    @roxald said:
    Drop me a PM.
    Rox

    Rox - we had discussed those and I dropped you a line as well. Perhaps the heads are gone. I was the guy looking for 2' flat.

  • BogeyParBogeyBogeyParBogey Trying to get better... northern ILMembers Posts: 143 ✭✭

    Rather than create a new thread I'm curious in this main Maltby thread if anyone can help me decode Maltby MPF measurements and understand how the MMB-17 for example compares to 716 AP2 that I already own.

    MMB-17 #6 - 1.391" C dim, 0.495" actual Rcog, 0.741" actual Vcog, MOI 11.4, blade length is 3.103" per Golfworks
    716 AP2 #6 - 1.138" C-dim, 0.489" actual Rcog, 0.779" actual Vcog, MOI 14.1, blade length is 78.5mm / 3.090" per another site

    I'm not concerned with the actual MPF bottom line number. I'm curious how the members here would assess playability of the sets. My take away is that Vcog, Rcog, and blade length are practically the same. The AP2 has much higher MOI and the MMB has the sweet spot much farther away from the hosel. My general observation through photos and reading is the MMB has a sharper leading edge and the AP2 is more rounded. Playability appears to be a push. Is this right?

    I read Howard Jones', obviously a very respected member here, comments in post #10 at the link, https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/476991/maltby-playability-factor/p1, Howard basically thought Rcog and Vcog were the most important measurements regarding toe hits over the MOI or C dimension.

    Regards
    Dave

  • ThertyTherty SDMembers Posts: 75 ✭✭
    edited May 11, 2019 4:28am #739

    I believe Maltby puts a big emphasis on the C-Dimension, I.e. the distance of the COG from the hosel. I think the bigger C-dimension, the better you are going to be out of a toe strike, because you'll have more mass closer to the impact, and less gear effect. I think if your miss is out of the toe you want to pay attention to Rcog (MOI) and C-Dimm.

    Unless I've completely misunderstood C-dimm.

    @BogeyParBogey said:
    Rather than create a new thread I'm curious in this main Maltby thread if anyone can help me decode Maltby MPF measurements and understand how the MMB-17 for example compares to 716 AP2 that I already own.

    MMB-17 #6 - 1.391" C dim, 0.495" actual Rcog, 0.741" actual Vcog, MOI 11.4, blade length is 3.103" per Golfworks
    716 AP2 #6 - 1.138" C-dim, 0.489" actual Rcog, 0.779" actual Vcog, MOI 14.1, blade length is 78.5mm / 3.090" per another site

    I'm not concerned with the actual MPF bottom line number. I'm curious how the members here would assess playability of the sets. My take away is that Vcog, Rcog, and blade length are practically the same. The AP2 has much higher MOI and the MMB has the sweet spot much farther away from the hosel. My general observation through photos and reading is the MMB has a sharper leading edge and the AP2 is more rounded. Playability appears to be a push. Is this right?

    I read Howard Jones', obviously a very respected member here, comments in post #10 at the link, https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/476991/maltby-playability-factor/p1, Howard basically thought Rcog and Vcog were the most important measurements regarding toe hits over the MOI or C dimension.

    Regards
    Dave

    Post edited by Therty on
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  • Popeye64Popeye64 Members Posts: 908 ✭✭

    I just have to say after really trying to work in the TS-1s as a split set I just cant commit to them. They are good but the TS-2s just outshine them. In feel, forgiveness, consistency. I actually am doing far better with the MMBs in the short irons. I just cant get comfortable with the TS-1s.
    The TS-2s in the top of the bag continue to be amazing. I actually have a pretty interesting mixed bag right now. Maltby M+ mid sole 58 and 54. MMB Black Gw-6 iron. 6 and 5 TS-2. (TS-2 6 iron is the loft of the MMB 5 iron.) The only chage I will make is adding the TS-2 7 iron. Right now those irons blend perfectly with lofting and the MMbs have some very tight gapping in play. Adding the 7 iron TS-2 is a 3.5° loft gap to the MMB 6 so its close enough. I have been able to hammer my irons dead on the numbers with great consistency. It's not that the TS1s were bad for me..Its just that the MMBs are THAT good still. The MMBs are a little tough at the 6 iron and up so that's where the change happens. An HDI 3 iron sits above the 5 iron before I go to 4 wood and driver. So far scoring extremely well with this setup.

  • Golf4liferGolf4lifer Members Posts: 524 ✭✭

    @Popeye64 I am loving the TS1’s so far. They look and feel great and I’m hitting them really well. I couldn’t get along with the size of the PTM’s they just look huge to me. I am now debating getting the TS2 4 iron to complete my set.

  • Popeye64Popeye64 Members Posts: 908 ✭✭

    @Golf4lifer you wont regret that choice. As long irons I have never hit anything as well as I do the TS-2.

  • Popeye64Popeye64 Members Posts: 908 ✭✭

    Well I had a long head to head range session with an MMB 6 iron and the TS-1 7 iron and the MMB won. My TS-1 heads are up on BST. Just couldnt get along with them. I'll be replacing them with the TS-2s. If anyone wants to make a demo TS-1 it's a good opportunity

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