2019 Masters Tournament hosted by ANGC (merged)

[tiderider]

> @"deadsolid...shank" said:

> > > I thought it was really interesting. We were talking on here during the first opposite field event (Puerto Rico maybe). The winner of that event doesn’t get in, but the Asia-Pacific amateur runner up does? (Apologies in advance if I don’t have the exact details correct, going off a very shaky memory).

> > >

> > >

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> > Gmac should get in for sure. Opposite field event on PGA tour is a much stronger field than some of the events they let winners in from. The World Golf rankings has finally figured this out and weaker fields should be getting less points going forward. There was a great example is a thread somewhere showing a winner at some lowly event getting more points than a 5th at a tour event ..

>

> Does GMac get in? I went back and looked at the other thread, it was Puerto Rico, opposite of Mexico (easy to get swept under the rug after that fiasco). BladeHunter had asked about a Masters exemption for that tournament and the answer was no.

>

>

 

think they require the tournament to give full "points" ... pr was only 300 fedex pts ... i'm assuming they mean fedex points, but fred and i haven't talked recently ...

[deadsolid...shank]

> @3jacker said:

> This is Augusta National. Logical to the hoi poloi isn't really a concern.

> If you want in, win the right tournaments. If you're not good enough to do that, you just don't belong.

 

It is their tournament, they can do want they want. Can’t argue with you there.

 

hoi poloi, sorry, no idea what that even means.

 

As to the last sentence. You think the guy that won the PGA stop in Puerto Rico isn’t better than the Latin American amateur champion?

 

Tradition is all well and good. It doesn’t mean it make absolute sense. Really not worth arguing about because like you said, it’s their tournament and if you want in, meet their criteria.

 

[Hawkeye77]

Seriously, is The Masters this week?

 

Thought there were other tour events around the globe.

 

Tournament thread fever popping up again, lol.

[3jacker]

> @"deadsolid...shank" said:

> > @3jacker said:

> > This is Augusta National. Logical to the hoi poloi isn't really a concern.

> > If you want in, win the right tournaments. If you're not good enough to do that, you just don't belong.

>

> It is their tournament, they can do want they want. Can’t argue with you there.

>

> hoi poloi, sorry, no idea what that even means.

>

> As to the last sentence. You think the guy that won the PGA stop in Puerto Rico isn’t better than the Latin American amateur champion?

>

> Tradition is all well and good. It doesn’t mean it make absolute sense. Really not worth arguing about because like you said, it’s their tournament and if you want in, meet their criteria.

>

 

To the folks at AGNC, the PGA stop in Puerto Rico is so far down the ladder that it does not exist.

The Latin American Amateur brings with it the tradition of honoring top amateur golfers and keeping them in the mix. It's a valid tradition, and recognizing the best amateur golfer from Latin Am (or who could qualify for the Latin Am) certainly makes more sense than letting in a 3rd tier PGA stop winner.

 

In my opinion.

And ANGC's.

[deadsolid...shank]

> @3jacker said:

> > @"deadsolid...shank" said:

> > > @3jacker said:

> > > This is Augusta National. Logical to the hoi poloi isn't really a concern.

> > > If you want in, win the right tournaments. If you're not good enough to do that, you just don't belong.

> >

> > It is their tournament, they can do want they want. Can’t argue with you there.

> >

> > hoi poloi, sorry, no idea what that even means.

> >

> > As to the last sentence. You think the guy that won the PGA stop in Puerto Rico isn’t better than the Latin American amateur champion?

> >

> > Tradition is all well and good. It doesn’t mean it make absolute sense. Really not worth arguing about because like you said, it’s their tournament and if you want in, meet their criteria.

> >

>

> To the folks at AGNC, the PGA stop in Puerto Rico is so far down the ladder that it does not exist.

> The Latin American Amateur brings with it the tradition of honoring top amateur golfers and keeping them in the mix. It's a valid tradition, and recognizing the best amateur golfer from Latin Am (or who could qualify for the Latin Am) certainly makes more sense than letting in a 3rd tier PGA stop winner.

>

> In my opinion.

> And ANGC's.

 

And theirs is the only one that matters. ?

 

[3jacker]

They probably don't even _really _want to let the Latin Am champ in. lol

[dropkicked]

Am champ exemptions are because of beloved Bobby, no?

 

Still a special week in golf..even if it's another week away. :)

[North Texas]

The Masters is run differently from any other tournament. And that's a good thing.

[bscinstnct]

 

 

Masters 2019: When is it time for a past champion to say goodbye?

 

The Masters is the lone major championship—much less the only significant professional golf tournament—where past champions get to decide when it’s time to stop playing. The U.S. Open gives its winners a 10-year exemption. Victors of the Open Championship are exempt until age 60, and the PGA Championship allows its champions to play until they are 65.

 

When you win the Masters, the exemption is for life.

 

“Which means it’s up to you, as a player, to know when it’s time,” said Tom Watson, who won the tournament in 1977 and 1981. “I always felt like if you couldn’t compete anymore—and I don’t mean make the cut, I mean compete to win—then you shouldn’t be playing. I probably hung around a couple of years too long.”

 

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/masters-2019-when-is-it-time-for-a-masters-champion-to-say-goodbye-to-the-masters

[CCTxGolf]

Screw that needing to move on crap. You win the masters you earned the right to show up and take a spot. EARNED IT!!

[Birdie Mac]

> @CCTxGolf said:

> **** that needing to move on ****. You win the masters you earned the right to show up and take a spot. EARNED IT!!

Granted you've earned the right, but to what end? Why continue to show up with more of a chance of missing the cut than contending? Sometimes the worst reason to do something is because you can. You might check out the GC article bscinstinct posted. It's a good read.

 

[johnseg]

> @"deadsolid...shank" said:

> > @3jacker said:

> > You guys complaining of the small field totally don't get the premise and tradition of this tournament.

> > It's not the Open (either or any of them).

>

> I think you can understand, and even appreciate, the premise and tradition of the tournament while at the same time wishing the field was better.

>

>

>

 

I guess my question for you is, what player are you missing from the 2019 field that needs to be there?

[gatorpedsMD]

> @johnseg said:

> > @"deadsolid...shank" said:

> > > @3jacker said:

> > > You guys complaining of the small field totally don't get the premise and tradition of this tournament.

> > > It's not the Open (either or any of them).

> >

> > I think you can understand, and even appreciate, the premise and tradition of the tournament while at the same time wishing the field was better.

> >

> >

> >

>

> I guess my question for you is, what player are you missing from the 2019 field that needs to be there?

 

JOHN DALY

[gatorpedsMD]

let''s try to keep this thread at least mostly positive u northern cooped up complainers. lol

 

can't wait to watch the cute am ladies te it up.

[gatorpedsMD]

 

[Darth Putter]

> @cardoustie said:

> Well they have another field that is way too small .... AGAIN

 

BAH!

[cardoustie]

Everyone from 51-70 not in now, should be in ... YMMV

 

51 47 Thorbjørn Olesen 50 2.40 120.20 -26.81 13.62 DEN

52 54 Jim Furyk 40 2.38 95.07 -6.39 69.97 USA

53 60 Kevin Na 51 2.33 118.69 -27.45 20.14 USA

54 51 Byeong Hun An 52 2.31 120.08 -26.15 25.52 KOR

55 53 Andrew Putnam 52 2.30 119.35 -16.76 40.74 USA

56 55 Emiliano Grillo 52 2.19 114.07 -25.45 13.41 ARG

57 59 Sungjae Im 52 2.18 113.19 -17.95 56.23 KOR

58 61 Abraham Ancer 52 2.17 112.89 -17.62 22.96 MEX

59 58 Keith Mitchell 52 2.16 112.06 -12.55 67.18 USA

60 57 Chez Reavie 52 2.14 111.51 -24.41 32.81 USA

61 56 Si Woo Kim 52 2.14 111.23 -29.58 43.19 KOR

62 62 Russell Knox 52 2.07 107.49 -19.83 26.75 SCO

63 63 Tom Lewis 50 2.03 101.73 -13.17 30.74 ENG

64 65 Lee Westwood 44 2.02 89.05 -17.92 14.97 ENG

65 67 Satoshi Kodaira 52 2.00 103.91 -28.57 9.21 JPN

66 64 Aaron Wise 51 2.00 101.85 -21.49 11.43 USA

67 69 Luke List 52 1.97 102.25 -24.57 17.78 USA

67 66 Joost Luiten 40 1.97 78.65 -14.25 38.57 NED

69 68 Jason Kokrak 52 1.96 101.99 -15.46 53.26 USA

70 70 Adam Hadwin 52 1.91 99.39 -27.67 28.43 CAN

 

 

[Darth Putter]

> @bscinstnct said:

>

>

> Masters 2019: When is it time for a past champion to say goodbye?

>

> The Masters is the lone major championship—much less the only significant professional golf tournament—where past champions get to decide when it’s time to stop playing. The U.S. Open gives its winners a 10-year exemption. Victors of the Open Championship are exempt until age 60, and the PGA Championship allows its champions to play until they are 65.

>

> When you win the Masters, the exemption is for life.

>

> “Which means it’s up to you, as a player, to know when it’s time,” said Tom Watson, who won the tournament in 1977 and 1981. “I always felt like if you couldn’t compete anymore—and I don’t mean make the cut, I mean compete to win—then you shouldn’t be playing. I probably hung around a couple of years too long.”

>

> https://www.golfdigest.com/story/masters-2019-when-is-it-time-for-a-masters-champion-to-say-goodbye-to-the-masters

 

 

The changes in the golf course in the last decade is what's really driven off a lot of former champions.

If The Masters limited it to age 60, the only people effected this year would be Woosnam, Lyle and Langer all at age 61. Mize is 60 and Couples is 59.

[FIRs&GIRs&3-Putts]

I just can’t wait.

 

Predictions:

 

Spieth will contend but *only* get a top-10 and then we won’t here from him for the rest of the year.

 

Tiger will play a poor first round, a decent second, a great third and a good fourth earning him something like a T8.

 

Rory will contend but get beaten (not throw it away) by the unexpected winner (not sure who it will be yet).

 

Patrick Reed will miss the cut — okay that’s more a hope than a prediction but I still think it will happen.

 

Tommy Fleetwood will do something similar to what Rickie Fowler did last year, i.e. quitely perform great but leave it too long to post a number that can win on Sunday.

 

Cool Runnings will get into an argument.

[Roadking2003]

> @cardoustie said:

> I count a minimum of12 players with a less than zero chance. Add 1 for winner this week and we have a field of 75

> That's less than half the size of the other majors

> Time to change old boys club! You've over done the exclusivity part

 

That's 11 more than the WGC events.

[Darth Putter]

> @cardoustie said:

> Everyone from 51-70 not in now, should be in ... YMMV

>

> 51 47 Thorbjørn Olesen 50 2.40 120.20 -26.81 13.62 DEN

> 52 54 Jim Furyk 40 2.38 95.07 -6.39 69.97 USA

> 53 60 Kevin Na 51 2.33 118.69 -27.45 20.14 USA

> 54 51 Byeong Hun An 52 2.31 120.08 -26.15 25.52 KOR

> 55 53 Andrew Putnam 52 2.30 119.35 -16.76 40.74 USA

> 56 55 Emiliano Grillo 52 2.19 114.07 -25.45 13.41 ARG

> 57 59 Sungjae Im 52 2.18 113.19 -17.95 56.23 KOR

> 58 61 Abraham Ancer 52 2.17 112.89 -17.62 22.96 MEX

> 59 58 Keith Mitchell 52 2.16 112.06 -12.55 67.18 USA

> 60 57 Chez Reavie 52 2.14 111.51 -24.41 32.81 USA

> 61 56 Si Woo Kim 52 2.14 111.23 -29.58 43.19 KOR

> 62 62 Russell Knox 52 2.07 107.49 -19.83 26.75 SCO

> 63 63 Tom Lewis 50 2.03 101.73 -13.17 30.74 ENG

> 64 65 Lee Westwood 44 2.02 89.05 -17.92 14.97 ENG

> 65 67 Satoshi Kodaira 52 2.00 103.91 -28.57 9.21 JPN

> 66 64 Aaron Wise 51 2.00 101.85 -21.49 11.43 USA

> 67 69 Luke List 52 1.97 102.25 -24.57 17.78 USA

> 67 66 Joost Luiten 40 1.97 78.65 -14.25 38.57 NED

> 69 68 Jason Kokrak 52 1.96 101.99 -15.46 53.26 USA

> 70 70 Adam Hadwin 52 1.91 99.39 -27.67 28.43 CAN

>

>

 

Olesen (top 50 end of year), Mitchell (tour winner), Grillo (top 50 again), Kim (TPC winners get 3 years), Na (tour winner) and Wise (tour winner) are already in the field.

 

 

 

 

[CircleC29]

> @"FIRs&GIRs&3-Putts" said:

> I just can’t wait.

>

> Predictions:

>

> Spieth will contend but *only* get a top-10 and then we won’t here from him for the rest of the year.

>

> Tiger will play a poor first round, a decent second, a great third and a good fourth earning him something like a T8.

>

> Rory will contend but get beaten (not throw it away) by the unexpected winner (not sure who it will be yet).

>

> Patrick Reed will miss the cut — okay that’s more a hope than a prediction but I still think it will happen.

>

> Tommy Fleetwood will do something similar to what Rickie Fowler did last year, i.e. quitely perform great but leave it too long to post a number that can win on Sunday.

>

> Cool Runnings will **ruin the entire thread**

 

Fixed that for ya

[jmvargas]

based on descending order these are the Masters scenarios I would most like to see once the smoke has cleared after this year's Masters:

 

1. Tiger winning his 15th major.

2. Rory completing his personal Grand Slam.

3. Jordan Spieth winning his 4th major.

4. an Asian golfer winning the Masters

5. an amateur finishing in the top 10.

[gatorpedsMD]

> @jmvargas said:

> based on descending order these are the Masters scenarios I would most like to see once the smoke has cleared after this year's Masters:

>

> 1. Tiger winning his 15th major.

> 2. Rory completing his personal Grand Slam.

> 3. Jordan Spieth winning his 4th major.

> 4. an Asian golfer winning the Masters

> 5. an amateur finishing in the top 10.

 

 

yessss

[gatorpedsMD]

where is CR? Miss that chap.

[gatorpedsMD]

Masters wardrobe:

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/masters-2019-i-got-wardrobe-scripted-for-a-major-and-my-head-is-still-spinning

 

If millennials ran the Masters:

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/masters-2019-if-millennials-ran-the-masters

[North Texas]

> @jmvargas said:

> based on descending order these are the Masters scenarios I would most like to see once the smoke has cleared after this year's Masters:

>

> 1. Tiger winning his 15th major.

> 2. Rory completing his personal Grand Slam.

> 3. Jordan Spieth winning his 4th major.

> 4. an Asian golfer winning the Masters

> 5. an amateur finishing in the top 10.

 

 

If #3 doesn't happen, then I'm pulling for #2. Then Rickie.

[bspn]

> @"FIRs&GIRs&3-Putts" said:

> Cool Runnings will get into an argument.

And then repeat that argument 1000x over the course of the weekend

 

[gatorpedsMD]

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[Darth Putter]

Let me rewrite the late Dan Jenkins for the #1 scenario above.

 

"If you want to put golf back on the front pages again and you don't have a Jack Nicklaus or an Arnold Palmer handy, here's what you do: You send an aging Tiger Woods out in the last round of the Masters and let him kill more foreigners than a general named Eisenhower."

 

 

Hey the avatars are getting bigger. I can tell GatorMD is a goat again.