It just me or are a lot of pros switching to Nippon Iron Shafts?

[swizbeatz]

120 profiles pretty similar to the spo but in my hands they couldn't be more different. I did have to go back to a lil higher spin ball this year but still in love with spo a year later and did not like the 120 at all.

 

I have a set just been hesitant to put them in. Going in a different set, not breaking up the gamers yet. My swing is very much like Garcias, inside out, timing is important, rather than hit the push cut like he does I'm always shut to path afraid of the right side. That coupled with wanting more height has me thinking 130 might be better.

 

I would agree with 130 being more what you are looking for on paper. They would also be where I would go if I was looking for some more height.

 

I guess I could also get away with just a touch more spin instead of height too. I'm definitely jealous of some of the + guys I play with that hit moon balls. Have a lot of experience with this stuff? Check my swing vid in the Wrx gear trials if you think you can help. Appreciate the responses.

[MJisGOAT]

Thought stenson played st proto aka 105?

 

I still haven't been able to pull the tigger on 120 or 130, need some more time with both and frankly nervous to change. I hit all 18 greens for the first time a few days ago with super peening oranges, I would still like a little higher launch, height, or spin.

 

He's been in the 120s for a while (could be a proto of sorts).

 

If you're not satisfied with hitting all 18 greens, then there's nothing that's going to fill that void.

 

“We’re flawed because we want so much more. We’re ruined because we get these things and wish for what we had.” — Don Draper

[swizbeatz]

Thought stenson played st proto aka 105?

 

I still haven't been able to pull the tigger on 120 or 130, need some more time with both and frankly nervous to change. I hit all 18 greens for the first time a few days ago with super peening oranges, I would still like a little higher launch, height, or spin.

 

He's been in the 120s for a while (could be a proto of sorts).

 

If you're not satisfied with hitting all 18 greens, then there's nothing that's going to fill that void.

 

“We’re flawed because we want so much more. We’re ruined because we get these things and wish for what we had.” — Don Draper

 

Yea just went and saw that in his witb, could have sworn he was in the 105.

 

Sample size man, I played 200 times this year I probably have a pretty good idea of how my irons perform. I hit the ball extremely low and can't compete with high ball hitters on courses we both have 6 iron + in all day. I want to compete on those courses.

[NRJyzr]

Thought stenson played st proto aka 105?

 

I still haven't been able to pull the tigger on 120 or 130, need some more time with both and frankly nervous to change. I hit all 18 greens for the first time a few days ago with super peening oranges, I would still like a little higher launch, height, or spin.

 

 

130 would help with the height, but not with the spin.

 

I hate to say it in the glorious Nippon thread, but what you seek sounds like the KBS Tour?

 

Would one of the new TT shafts I haven't paid attention to fit that bill, also?

[mokedaddy]

120 profiles pretty similar to the spo but in my hands they couldn't be more different. I did have to go back to a lil higher spin ball this year but still in love with spo a year later and did not like the 120 at all.

 

I have a set just been hesitant to put them in. Going in a different set, not breaking up the gamers yet. My swing is very much like Garcias, inside out, timing is important, rather than hit the push cut like he does I'm always shut to path afraid of the right side. That coupled with wanting more height has me thinking 130 might be better.

 

I would agree with 130 being more what you are looking for on paper. They would also be where I would go if I was looking for some more height.

 

I guess I could also get away with just a touch more spin instead of height too. I'm definitely jealous of some of the + guys I play with that hit moon balls. Have a lot of experience with this stuff? Check my swing vid in the Wrx gear trials if you think you can help. Appreciate the responses.

 

I do not have much experience in swing help. My swing has basically been self built through many many many hours on the range. I do know I am a low spin player throughout the bag and the spo are quite low spin as well to the point I was having a lot of trouble keeping the ball in the air on the course. I do not have the as high a launch with the spo as I did with say kbs tours either but I still hit he ball quite high. Going from 2015 chrome soft to 2016 b330s has helped but maybe not as much as a shaft change would for you. I would def give the 130 a try and go from there.

[pitchinwedge]

What's the closest non-Nippon shaft most similar to the Modus 120? Thinking about how the shaft bends and flexes (EI profile?) not ball flight.

[mokedaddy]

Thought stenson played st proto aka 105?

 

I still haven't been able to pull the tigger on 120 or 130, need some more time with both and frankly nervous to change. I hit all 18 greens for the first time a few days ago with super peening oranges, I would still like a little higher launch, height, or spin.

 

 

130 would help with the height, but not with the spin.

 

I hate to say it in the glorious Nippon thread, but what you seek sounds like the KBS Tour?

 

Would one of the new TT shafts I haven't paid attention to fit that bill, also?

 

Kbs tour was actually the first thing that came to my mind for him as well but I was afraid to utter such words on this hollowed thread.

[J_Birdie]

I currently play 120S in my wedges and I am not sure if I like that approach too much playing 120X in my irons.

 

I could go for 120X but I see NS makes wedge shafts. Any feedback on how those play compared to my 120S/120X?

 

How does the s feel in the wedges? A lot of players prefer softer in their wedges to induce better feel on feel shots. I believe it was Butch who convinced Tiger to play softer shafts in his wedges than in his irons.

 

Feels fine but sometimes I don't get the bite I expect on some of my better struck shots and I wonder if the stiff tip is killing too much spin

[jj9000]

What's the closest non-Nippon shaft most similar to the Modus 120? Thinking about how the shaft bends and flexes (EI profile?) not ball flight.

 

In terms of EI profile only, DG R300 is almost identical to Modus 120 Stiff.

[swizbeatz]

Thought stenson played st proto aka 105?

 

I still haven't been able to pull the tigger on 120 or 130, need some more time with both and frankly nervous to change. I hit all 18 greens for the first time a few days ago with super peening oranges, I would still like a little higher launch, height, or spin.

 

 

130 would help with the height, but not with the spin.

 

I hate to say it in the glorious Nippon thread, but what you seek sounds like the KBS Tour?

 

Would one of the new TT shafts I haven't paid attention to fit that bill, also?

 

Kbs tour was actually the first thing that came to my mind for him as well but I was afraid to utter such words on this hollowed thread.

 

I'll check those out too, have a set of mp5s with kbs tour in the garage for some reason :)

 

My affinity for Nippon started when I had bad elbow pain and the SPO with prosoft inserts immediately fixed that.

[hurricanes7]

What's the closest non-Nippon shaft most similar to the Modus 120? Thinking about how the shaft bends and flexes (EI profile?) not ball flight.

 

In terms of EI profile only, DG R300 is almost identical to Modus 120 Stiff.

 

 

then what does s300 play similiar to? and what does 120x play like

[Kscarguy]

I really do not want to read the entire thread. I play 120 stiff and wanting to get some shafts for my wedges. Which weight should I go with the same or different?

[hurricanes7]

how do u like the 120s

[Kscarguy]

Love them, used c taper the past but they felt harsh

[Hot Rod 71]

It's crazy how there really aren't any highlights of that monumental win. I did find a ridiculous video on a conspiracy theory on they used magnets to rig the win for him.

 

Huh??? How is that even possible?

 

You gotta post a link to this.

[MJisGOAT]

It's crazy how there really aren't any highlights of that monumental win. I did find a ridiculous video on a conspiracy theory on they used magnets to rig the win for him.

 

Huh??? How is that even possible?

 

You gotta post a link to this.

 

No credibility whatsoever, but here it is for your viewing pleasure. I haven't watched it, so don't really know the full scope of his alleged theory.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUSc8Z2FdtE

[hurricanes7]

what does the 130s play similiar to, i hit the 120 and it was very low

[sethdavidsdad]

It's crazy how there really aren't any highlights of that monumental win. I did find a ridiculous video on a conspiracy theory on they used magnets to rig the win for him.

 

Huh??? How is that even possible?

 

You gotta post a link to this.

 

No credibility whatsoever, but here it is for your viewing pleasure. I haven't watched it, so don't really know the full scope of his alleged theory.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUSc8Z2FdtE

That guy is freaking nuts. Think he watched the movie 23 too much

[pitchinwedge]

What's the closest non-Nippon shaft most similar to the Modus 120? Thinking about how the shaft bends and flexes (EI profile?) not ball flight.

 

In terms of EI profile only, DG R300 is almost identical to Modus 120 Stiff.

 

 

Had no idea... Thought the 120 had a unique EI profile given how Nippon describes them.

[TyY89]

Mark,

 

Thanks for sharing all your knowledge on here. I'm looking at switching to Nippon next season. Currently play KBS Tour S+ in 716 AP2 but will be switching to the Apex Pro's. I was almost a spot-on match for the KBS Tour X using the newest version of Mizuno's shaft optimizer software. 2nd reccomemdation was PX LZ 6.5, 3rd was PX 6.0 (I played 6.0's for several years and played the original

Rifle's before that.) I have 88mph 6 iron swing speed with a strong load, quick tempo/transition and mid release. Definitely more of an aggressive hitter than a swinger and I have a tendency to get pretty steep. I've always played a penetrating ball...looking to launch it a bit higher, especially in the long irons, but have found my dispersion is best with a stiffer tip section. Been finding that in general I launch X better/higher than S. I've been experimenting with the Nippon 105X in MP-5 from Mizuno fit cart (only Nippon Modus they offer) and I absolutely love the feel of the shaft and launch/spin is great but I'm worried it's too light. From everything I've read I'm leaning towards the 125X but I wanted to get your insight. I'd appreciate any input you can offer. Thanks!

[markheardjr]

Mark,

 

Thanks for sharing all your knowledge on here. I'm looking at switching to Nippon next season. Currently play KBS Tour S+ in 716 AP2 but will be switching to the Apex Pro's. I was almost a spot-on match for the KBS Tour X using the newest version of Mizuno's shaft optimizer software. 2nd reccomemdation was PX LZ 6.5, 3rd was PX 6.0 (I played 6.0's for several years and played the original

Rifle's before that.) I have 88mph 6 iron swing speed with a strong load, quick tempo/transition and mid release. Definitely more of an aggressive hitter than a swinger and I have a tendency to get pretty steep. I've always played a penetrating ball...looking to launch it a bit higher, especially in the long irons, but have found my dispersion is best with a stiffer tip section. Been finding that in general I launch X better/higher than S. I've been experimenting with the Nippon 105X in MP-5 from Mizuno fit cart (only Nippon Modus they offer) and I absolutely love the feel of the shaft and launch/spin is great but I'm worried it's too light. From everything I've read I'm leaning towards the 125X but I wanted to get your insight. I'd appreciate any input you can offer. Thanks!

Absolutely, the whole time I was reading your post i was thinking 125 before you mentioned it at the end. I think the 125X is going to be a great fit for what you described. Possibly soft-stepped, but if you like X flex and feel it launches better for you then by all means try it out. It isn't a demanding xflex to begin with. The stiff tip feels great and has just the right amount of impact response I want. The mid kick is great. It will be similar to the PX LZ but from what I've heard feels a tad heavier and a tad less spin.

[Shapland]

Keeping this rock rolling. I tried the 105, didn't like it but I was having a bad swing day at the range. Went to a proper fitting and hit the 120 S, 130 S, Project x LZ 6.0, up against my Black golds and my S300's. Mine are set up +1/2" in the mizuno mp33 and titleist 670. I was fit using the mizuno MP4 head at standard length.

 

Couldn't get on with the project x but hit the 120 and the 130 well. Both felt great and both had a better ball flight than the black golds or the DG's. Initially the fitter recommended I stay with the black golds. He mainly looked at the acceleration profile using flightscope and the DG's showed a clear flip release whereas the black golds showed a nice steady release action.

 

When I hot the nippons the 120 acceleration profiles were good and almost traced each other they were so consistent. The I hit the 130's which also had a good acceleration profile but went a full club further!

 

The numbers were 90mph speed, spin around 6000-6500 for the shafts with the 130 a bit lower at 56-800. The smash factor and ball speed was better on the 130s so the carry went from 160yds to 170 yds.

 

Based on this he is sending me a 130s in my 6 iron and a 125s in my 7 iron for a trial. I'm left kicking myself I didn't hit the 120X or the 130X and a couple of questions about my numbers that I may quiz him on.

[hurricanes7]

let us know how that works out

[Brompton]

Can anyone recommend some "modus" shafts to try out?

 

I currently have ns pro 1150gh tour shafts in stiff flex. I really like the way this shaft feels, everything about it is perfect apart from the ball flight, I can't keep it down!

 

I have tried as much as possible to learn how to hit the ball lower but I still struggle and on windy days I would like a shaft that will help me a bit

 

My SS with 6iron is 86-88

Driver 105

Mid everything really, tempo, transition, release but I would say slightly more of a hitter than swinger

 

Any recommendations are appreciated, I want to narrow my choice down to two shafts ideally that I can test over the winter against my current ns pro shaft

[Rogtsaamokin66]

Anyone got any feedback on Nippon Modus 105 wedge shafts?? Looking for some shafts to put in my Mac daddy 2 heads.

[JDogg206]

Which profile has the highest kick point?

[32quattro]

Can anyone recommend some "modus" shafts to try out?

 

I currently have ns pro 1150gh tour shafts in stiff flex. I really like the way this shaft feels, everything about it is perfect apart from the ball flight, I can't keep it down!

 

I have tried as much as possible to learn how to hit the ball lower but I still struggle and on windy days I would like a shaft that will help me a bit

 

My SS with 6iron is 86-88

Driver 105

Mid everything really, tempo, transition, release but I would say slightly more of a hitter than swinger

 

Any recommendations are appreciated, I want to narrow my choice down to two shafts ideally that I can test over the winter against my current ns pro shaft

Similar numbers. 125 stiff

[markheardjr]

Can anyone recommend some "modus" shafts to try out?

 

I currently have ns pro 1150gh tour shafts in stiff flex. I really like the way this shaft feels, everything about it is perfect apart from the ball flight, I can't keep it down!

 

I have tried as much as possible to learn how to hit the ball lower but I still struggle and on windy days I would like a shaft that will help me a bit

 

My SS with 6iron is 86-88

Driver 105

Mid everything really, tempo, transition, release but I would say slightly more of a hitter than swinger

 

Any recommendations are appreciated, I want to narrow my choice down to two shafts ideally that I can test over the winter against my current ns pro shaft

I'd say 125S or 120S hardstepped / 120X softstepped. The 1150 to me had a real snap/thump feel like DG and was oddly balanced to me. Felt a lot tip heavy. That makes me lean more towards the Tour120 for you to try.

[cbus74]

Mark,

 

I have read many of these pages and will be switching to Nippon in my Srixon Z745's. I currently play KBS Tour S+ and they spin way to much and I can hook them two states over at times. My 6i SS is 95 with a 190-195 carry. I have a late release and can have a tendency to come too far from the inside. I was fitted into KBS Tour X early in the year but never made the change. I am not a PX fan and have typically played DG before switching to the KBS in Jan. I love the feel, but the ballooning and spin are just too much. I was thinking 125X, but wanted to get your thoughts on this as well. If I go that route, what Nippon shaft would be a god match for my wedges? Thanks!

[hurricanes7]

Anyone got any feedback on Nippon Modus 105 wedge shafts?? Looking for some shafts to put in my Mac daddy 2 heads.

 

i have the 115 in my 56 and the 125 in my 52 and they are awesome, great flight