It just me or are a lot of pros switching to Nippon Iron Shafts?

[RobDMB]

Do any manufacturers have the 125X or 130s/x in their fitting carts? Wondering if somewhere like golf galaxy would have them that could be hit for feel.

[Warrick]

I don't think anyone carries the 125 in the fitting cart, or offers it as a "no upcharge"

 

I would think TM, would have the 130, is a standard option on their irons.

[RobDMB]

Pretty sure Srixon offers it as no upcharge.

[MJisGOAT]

I don't think anyone carries the 125 in the fitting cart, or offers it as a "no upcharge"

 

I would think TM, would have the 130, is a standard option on their irons.

 

Bridgestone offers the 125 as a no up charge.

[DNice26]

I don't think anyone carries the 125 in the fitting cart, or offers it as a "no upcharge"

 

I would think TM, would have the 130, is a standard option on their irons.

 

Warrick, would you say the 125 produces a flight closer to the traditional DG (low launch but higher spin) or the Ctaper type flight (high launch with low/ flat flight)? Just picked up some iblades and have an opportunity to grab some 125Xs. Not sure I should stray from the tapers though. The nippon are so damn smooth though.

[RobDMB]

So if I come from X100 to Modus 125, would I play X straight in? X100s are generally referred to as low launch/low spin - do people with the 125s (mid/mid) notice that big of a difference? I already hit a high ball so am not looking for more height (but don't mind the height I have and DGs can balloon on me). I do want to keep nice tight dispersion.

 

Update: To the extent it helps, I went to Golf Galaxy and tried out the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer. My averages for two sets were: (1) 93.7 - 7 - 6.67 - 7.33 - 6.67 and (2) 94.3 - 6.33 - 6 - 7 - 6.67. The recommendations were: (1) KBS Tour X; (2) C-Taper X; (3) DG Gold X SS; (4) Project X 6.5; (5) Project X LZ 6.5; (6) Dynamic Gold AMT X; (7) C-Taper Lite X; (8) Modus 105X.

 

I actually hit the 105X - felt smooth but so light compared to what I'm used to. I assume there is a period you would have to adjust. Also hit the LZs again and think I liked them a bit less this time.

[Hot Rod 71]

So if I come from X100 to Modus 125, would I play X straight in? X100s are generally referred to as low launch/low spin - do people with the 125s (mid/mid) notice that big of a difference? I already hit a high ball so am not looking for more height (but don't mind the height I have and DGs can balloon on me). I do want to keep nice tight dispersion.

 

Update: To the extent it helps, I went to Golf Galaxy and tried out the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer. My averages for two sets were: (1) 93.7 - 7 - 6.67 - 7.33 - 6.67 and (2) 94.3 - 6.33 - 6 - 7 - 6.67. The recommendations were: (1) KBS Tour X; (2) C-Taper X; (3) DG Gold X SS; (4) Project X 6.5; (5) Project X LZ 6.5; (6) Dynamic Gold AMT X; (7) C-Taper Lite X; (8) Modus 105X.

 

I actually hit the 105X - felt smooth but so light compared to what I'm used to. I assume there is a period you would have to adjust. Also hit the LZs again and think I liked them a bit less this time.

 

You should be fine with the 125 if you like the 105 performance (but not the light feel). The 105 is supposed to be a lighter version of the 125. They have the same bend profile, but the 105 may fly a little higher due to its lighter weight.

 

I think the 125 is a cross between KBS Tour and Dynamic Gold but with the trademark Nippon smooth feel.

 

Also, you may consider 125 in the short irons and 105 in the long irons for a little more elevations.

[MJisGOAT]

I don't think anyone carries the 125 in the fitting cart, or offers it as a "no upcharge"

 

I would think TM, would have the 130, is a standard option on their irons.

 

Bridgestone offers the 125 as a no up charge.

 

I also believe Srixon offers all the modus line as a custom no up charge option.

 

http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaye_prd/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-masterCatalog_ClevelandGolf/default/dw6acce370/pdf/Srixon_Irons_17.pdf

[terapins]

I am just wondering a few things about building my new irons with the 125 stiff, 4-pw. I'm a newbie but I am assuming install in head and butt trim to desired length or should there be some tip trimming. I am going for a standard stiff setup. Thanks in advance.

[Oknows]

Trim from butt if taper tip.

[RobDMB]

So if I come from X100 to Modus 125, would I play X straight in? X100s are generally referred to as low launch/low spin - do people with the 125s (mid/mid) notice that big of a difference? I already hit a high ball so am not looking for more height (but don't mind the height I have and DGs can balloon on me). I do want to keep nice tight dispersion.

 

Update: To the extent it helps, I went to Golf Galaxy and tried out the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer. My averages for two sets were: (1) 93.7 - 7 - 6.67 - 7.33 - 6.67 and (2) 94.3 - 6.33 - 6 - 7 - 6.67. The recommendations were: (1) KBS Tour X; (2) C-Taper X; (3) DG Gold X SS; (4) Project X 6.5; (5) Project X LZ 6.5; (6) Dynamic Gold AMT X; (7) C-Taper Lite X; (8) Modus 105X.

 

I actually hit the 105X - felt smooth but so light compared to what I'm used to. I assume there is a period you would have to adjust. Also hit the LZs again and think I liked them a bit less this time.

 

 

Gonna give the Nippons a try. I think I read every Nippon thread on the Board over the weekend. So it looks like:

 

1) Coming from DG X100 I would go Nippon 125 X straight in?

 

2) Seems a lot of people recommend using the Nippon 125X iron wedge shaft in wedges instead of the Nippon wedge specific 125 shaft? Is that the case?

 

Thanks again for everyone's assistance. Taking a bit of a leap of faith with the Nippon 125 instead of PX LZ or DG X100.

[gjunky]

Hey markheardjr,

 

I'm looking for some help on my wedge shafts for my 52 and 58. In this thread I saw that you mentioned that players using the Modus 105 shaft in there irons may like the Modus 115 wedge shaft. I am currently playing the old Nippon WV wedge shaft in similar weight and not a big fan of it. Seems to have a really weird kick to it on anything past a half shot. Not sure if the new 115 wedge shaft is the same?

 

I play a lot of full shots with my 52* as well as partial. I try to never take a full swing with the 58* but sometimes its unavoidable when your only playing 2 wedges off a pitching wedge but hardly ever. My thinking is that the 105s in my gap wedge may be to light and it would definitely be to light for my 58*. If I like the feel and the performance of the 105s in my irons what about 125r wedge shaft (not the wedge specific shaft) in my wedges? Seems it might be close in weight to the 115 wedge shaft.

 

Thanks,

Dave

[RobDMB]

Dug through this thread, so if I am reading the shaft comparison correctly Dynamic Gold X100 should play equal to Modus 125X straight in?

[Hot Rod 71]

So if I come from X100 to Modus 125, would I play X straight in? X100s are generally referred to as low launch/low spin - do people with the 125s (mid/mid) notice that big of a difference? I already hit a high ball so am not looking for more height (but don't mind the height I have and DGs can balloon on me). I do want to keep nice tight dispersion.

 

Update: To the extent it helps, I went to Golf Galaxy and tried out the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer. My averages for two sets were: (1) 93.7 - 7 - 6.67 - 7.33 - 6.67 and (2) 94.3 - 6.33 - 6 - 7 - 6.67. The recommendations were: (1) KBS Tour X; (2) C-Taper X; (3) DG Gold X SS; (4) Project X 6.5; (5) Project X LZ 6.5; (6) Dynamic Gold AMT X; (7) C-Taper Lite X; (8) Modus 105X.

 

I actually hit the 105X - felt smooth but so light compared to what I'm used to. I assume there is a period you would have to adjust. Also hit the LZs again and think I liked them a bit less this time.

 

 

Gonna give the Nippons a try. I think I read every Nippon thread on the Board over the weekend. So it looks like:

 

1) Coming from DG X100 I would go Nippon 125 X straight in?

 

2) Seems a lot of people recommend using the Nippon 125X iron wedge shaft in wedges instead of the Nippon wedge specific 125 shaft? Is that the case?

 

Thanks again for everyone's assistance. Taking a bit of a leap of faith with the Nippon 125 instead of PX LZ or DG X100.

 

I play the 120X in my irons and use the 125X soft stepped in my wedges. The 125 is really good in the wedges.

 

I've also played the 125 Wedge shaft, but I like the 125X soft stepped better.

[RobDMB]

Officially going all in on Nippon! Ordered the Tour125X in Srixon irons (coming from DG X100) and Modus 125X Wedge shaft in some RTX 3 wedges. Will post some thoughts once clubs arrive.

[Skydiver22]

Alright Modus guru's... I have been playing PING for the last decade and the shafts in every iron set has been ZZ65's.

Thinking about moving to the Modus 3. Handicap is a 3 and swing in the low 90's and hit my 8 iron 155, and hit it high. Closest Modus shaft for me???

[Titleist_242]

Alright Modus guru's... I have been playing PING for the last decade and the shafts in every iron set has been ZZ65's.

Thinking about moving to the Modus 3. Handicap is a 3 and swing in the low 90's and hit my 8 iron 155, and hit it high. Closest Modus shaft for me???

 

What are you trying to accomplish? Lower traj? Less spin?

 

8 iron 155 is pretty beastly I'd stick with the zz65. Is low 90s your iron ss or driver ss?

[noodle3872]

Further to my post with my 105 and 120 numbers, my best ball striking in terms of center face contact has come while using Project X 6.0 soft stepped once. The ball flight may be a touch low on the PX 6.0 SS1x and spin seems to be pretty good. Should I be considering the Tour 130?

[Skydiver22]

Alright Modus guru's... I have been playing PING for the last decade and the shafts in every iron set has been ZZ65's.

Thinking about moving to the Modus 3. Handicap is a 3 and swing in the low 90's and hit my 8 iron 155, and hit it high. Closest Modus shaft for me???

 

What are you trying to accomplish? Lower traj? Less spin?

 

8 iron 155 is pretty beastly I'd stick with the zz65. Is low 90s your iron ss or driver ss?

 

Iron ss. Last time out at PING the driver ss was around 107. Would like to lower it a bit, 4 iron flys like a PW. And my spin rate is a little high usually. Steep AoA.

[DNice26]

Further to my post with my 105 and 120 numbers, my best ball striking in terms of center face contact has come while using Project X 6.0 soft stepped once. The ball flight may be a touch low on the PX 6.0 SS1x and spin seems to be pretty good. Should I be considering the Tour 130?

In my opinion, PX shafts are pretty wildly different in feel and performance to the modus 130. If you like PX, I personally don't see how you would like the modus 130. The ball flights they produce may....may be similar....but the feel, swing and release zone kick with each are wildly different. YMMV i suppose.

[jj9000]

Further to my post with my 105 and 120 numbers, my best ball striking in terms of center face contact has come while using Project X 6.0 soft stepped once. The ball flight may be a touch low on the PX 6.0 SS1x and spin seems to be pretty good. Should I be considering the Tour 130?

In my opinion, PX shafts are pretty wildly different in feel and performance to the modus 130. If you like PX, I personally don't see how you would like the modus 130. The ball flights they produce may....may be similar....but the feel, swing and release zone kick with each are wildly different. YMMV i suppose.

 

Modus 130s are the closest to PX 6.0 in the Nippon line.

 

You get a long-time...hard loading...late releasing...PX 6.0 player set up with something like 120 Stiff...and watch those suckers get pulled after one range session.

[Roadking_6]

Further to my post with my 105 and 120 numbers, my best ball striking in terms of center face contact has come while using Project X 6.0 soft stepped once. The ball flight may be a touch low on the PX 6.0 SS1x and spin seems to be pretty good. Should I be considering the Tour 130?

In my opinion, PX shafts are pretty wildly different in feel and performance to the modus 130. If you like PX, I personally don't see how you would like the modus 130. The ball flights they produce may....may be similar....but the feel, swing and release zone kick with each are wildly different. YMMV i suppose.

 

Modus 130s are the closest to PX 6.0 in the Nippon line.

 

You get a long-time...hard loading...late releasing...PX 6.0 player set up with something like 120 Stiff...and watch those suckers get pulled after one range session.

HAHA I was a 6.5 late release player and my first experiment with MOdus was the 120X. 1 round and sold the clubs.......got fit into 130X and it was lights out. Night and day difference

[DNice26]

Interesting you guys would find the 130s comparable to PX. Not my personal experience. The soft tips of the 130s kick VERY differently for me compared to PX. Not even close in my opinion....

[RobDMB]

I received a call regarding my Order which was for Srixin Z765 w/ Modus 125X and RTX3 with Modus 125 Wedge.

 

I didnt realize there were not different flexes to the 125 Wedge Shaft. So my options are just the 125 Wedge or to use the Tour125X. Torn which do to - does the Wedge Flex play similar to a S400 or softer?

 

If I use the Tour125X wedge shaft, should I put it straight into match irons or softstep it?

 

 

Edit: These will be for sand and lob wedges. I will use the Tour125X in the AW regardless since that is a full swing club.

[Titleist_242]

Alright Modus guru's... I have been playing PING for the last decade and the shafts in every iron set has been ZZ65's.

Thinking about moving to the Modus 3. Handicap is a 3 and swing in the low 90's and hit my 8 iron 155, and hit it high. Closest Modus shaft for me???

 

What are you trying to accomplish? Lower traj? Less spin?

 

8 iron 155 is pretty beastly I'd stick with the zz65. Is low 90s your iron ss or driver ss?

 

Iron ss. Last time out at PING the driver ss was around 107. Would like to lower it a bit, 4 iron flys like a PW. And my spin rate is a little high usually. Steep AoA.

 

i don't think anything in the modus line will lower your traj drastically from ZZ65. maybe try C-tapers?

[Skydiver22]

Alright Modus guru's... I have been playing PING for the last decade and the shafts in every iron set has been ZZ65's.

Thinking about moving to the Modus 3. Handicap is a 3 and swing in the low 90's and hit my 8 iron 155, and hit it high. Closest Modus shaft for me???

 

What are you trying to accomplish? Lower traj? Less spin?

 

8 iron 155 is pretty beastly I'd stick with the zz65. Is low 90s your iron ss or driver ss?

 

Iron ss. Last time out at PING the driver ss was around 107. Would like to lower it a bit, 4 iron flys like a PW. And my spin rate is a little high usually. Steep AoA.

 

i don't think anything in the modus line will lower your traj drastically from ZZ65. maybe try C-tapers?

 

Ok Thanks

[BigHook25]

Alright Modus guru's... I have been playing PING for the last decade and the shafts in every iron set has been ZZ65's.

Thinking about moving to the Modus 3. Handicap is a 3 and swing in the low 90's and hit my 8 iron 155, and hit it high. Closest Modus shaft for me???

 

What are you trying to accomplish? Lower traj? Less spin?

 

8 iron 155 is pretty beastly I'd stick with the zz65. Is low 90s your iron ss or driver ss?

 

Iron ss. Last time out at PING the driver ss was around 107. Would like to lower it a bit, 4 iron flys like a PW. And my spin rate is a little high usually. Steep AoA.

 

i don't think anything in the modus line will lower your traj drastically from ZZ65. maybe try C-tapers?

 

Not necessarily true. In my fitting I got lower spin with modus 125x then with project x 6.5, dg x100, and c taper x-flex. The only shaft that was consistently as low was steelfiber i125. The trajectory was also slightly lower with the modus 125x. I know Nippon says they are mid launch shafts, but I've also read they are supposed to be like the super peening blue shafts, just with the modus feel.

[DNice26]

Alright Modus guru's... I have been playing PING for the last decade and the shafts in every iron set has been ZZ65's.

Thinking about moving to the Modus 3. Handicap is a 3 and swing in the low 90's and hit my 8 iron 155, and hit it high. Closest Modus shaft for me???

 

What are you trying to accomplish? Lower traj? Less spin?

 

8 iron 155 is pretty beastly I'd stick with the zz65. Is low 90s your iron ss or driver ss?

 

Iron ss. Last time out at PING the driver ss was around 107. Would like to lower it a bit, 4 iron flys like a PW. And my spin rate is a little high usually. Steep AoA.

 

i don't think anything in the modus line will lower your traj drastically from ZZ65. maybe try C-tapers?

 

Not necessarily true. In my fitting I got lower spin with modus 125x then with project x 6.5, dg x100, and c taper x-flex. The only shaft that was consistently as low was steelfiber i125. The trajectory was also slightly lower with the modus 125x. I know Nippon says they are mid launch shafts, but I've also read they are supposed to be like the super peening blue shafts, just with the modus feel.

 

I like reading this. My iblades are in for the modus 125X treatment....

[Morry]

Interesting you guys would find the 130s comparable to PX. Not my personal experience. The soft tips of the 130s kick VERY differently for me compared to PX. Not even close in my opinion....

I went pxi 6.0 to 130s and i have found Utopia!

Reality is that 130s are for LATE RELEASE swings period - if you have one, the match is heaven

if the release is mid or early, i would agree the tip will not suit and the difference to the PX family will be stark

[DNice26]

Interesting you guys would find the 130s comparable to PX. Not my personal experience. The soft tips of the 130s kick VERY differently for me compared to PX. Not even close in my opinion....

I went pxi 6.0 to 130s and i have found Utopia!

Reality is that 130s are for LATE RELEASE swings period - if you have one, the match is heaven

if the release is mid or early, i would agree the tip will not suit and the difference to the PX family will be stark

Fair enough. Yeah, you don't ever want to release a bit early with the 130s or you will not be pleased. I have a mid to later release, so i likely could have grooved my swing into them (as Mark rightfully suggested). I just noticed that when I'd try and hit certain shots (low, fade etc.) I apparently change my release point and the shaft wouldn't react well to me. When i would make my stock, standard swing though, with the right timing, no problem at all.

 

Funny enough, the clubs I struggle with the most are the wedges. I put the 130 shafts in my MG 50, 54 and 58. With full swing shots out of the fairway with the LW, often times....i would get the most uncomfortable feeling around and through impact, as if I couldn't feel the shaft properly. Such an odd feeling. I also noticed that i had more accuracy with the wedges if i setup for them to fade a bit. Typically, I'd setup more for a straight or tiny draw shot with my wedges, but the 130s would have none of that swing. Odd. Odd in the pitching and chipping department too....they are so insanely buttery soft, that you can hardly feel the ball hit the club face. I'd like to think I'm joking here, but I'm not. It is nice in many respects, but not when you are trying to feel your chips for distance control. I'm not sure if i love them for this or dislike them for it.

 

Maybe i would have gotten along a bit better with the X flex in the 130s? Dunno. Anyway, 130s are slowly leaving the bag for 125X. I do think I've become a modus fan. i get along well with the 125.