Blade users thread (NO DEBATING CLUBHEADS! NO Buy Sell Trade!)

[revanant]

> @Bigmean said:

>

> I tried to explain this in that other blade argument thread, and truly truly what I believe most is that your mentality and mental perceptions will always be such a higher percentage of difference than physics when hitting 2 conforming clubs.

>

> So my answer to you is, what clubs do you feel you will be better with? Unfortunately, that answer can change after 9 holes let alone a day hahahaha.

100% agree with this. The other thread has a lot of stories about how a cavity back saved a certain shot.

 

But my experience has been that I'm a much better ball striker with a blade in my hands, because I'm more focused and connected to my setup and swing thoughts. Looking at a thin topline is "centering" for me, and I'm more conscious about swinging easy and not overswinging.

 

Not to get overly zen about it, but even though it seems like you should be able to project how a certain shot would perform if you were holding a blade and made the same strike, there's an argument to be made that you might have had a very different swing if you were holding a blade instead of the iron you actually swung with.

 

So yeah, while the mental part is "subjective" and less able to prove on an online forum, I'm lucky that the only audience I need to convince is myself, and I've seen firsthand that taking my T-Zoids and MP-4s to the course leads to markedly better rounds with more ball-striking control than I have previously experienced with my AP-1s.

[uwhockey14]

> @MKPAPA said:

> > @uwhockey14 said:

> > I have a set of mizuno MP-67 Cut Muscles arriving today. Too good of a deal to pass up, eventually I'll send them off to get some sort of re-finishing done on them, what can I expect from these clubs?! Obviously its hard to find a bad mizuno Iron but anyone have any experience playing these that wants to provide some feedback?! Thanks

>

> I played a set of MP-67's for many seasons and they are one of my favorite irons. They're not terribly forgiving, but well struck shots feel amazing, as they should.

 

Just got them, love the look of them, in better condition than they looked too.... little sweet spot wear but plenty of grooves left...> @MKPAPA said:

> > @uwhockey14 said:

> > I have a set of mizuno MP-67 Cut Muscles arriving today. Too good of a deal to pass up, eventually I'll send them off to get some sort of re-finishing done on them, what can I expect from these clubs?! Obviously its hard to find a bad mizuno Iron but anyone have any experience playing these that wants to provide some feedback?! Thanks

>

> I played a set of MP-67's for many seasons and they are one of my favorite irons. They're not terribly forgiving, but well struck shots feel amazing, as they should.

 

Just got them, love the look. My last set of Mizuno's were MP-33's for about a week, everything i've heard these are close to the same clubhead except they have the cut muscle for lower ball flight....

[revanant]

Unrelated--I really, really want to hit those Taylormade P-7TW irons.

I've never spent more than $300 on irons--but I'd really love to see what Tiger prefers to hit. Hopefully I don't get tempted.

[Golfingfanatic]

> @revanant said:

> Unrelated--I really, really want to hit those Taylormade P-7TW irons.

> I've never spent more than $300 on irons--but I'd really love to see what Tiger prefers to hit. Hopefully I don't get tempted.

 

If you want to save yourself some cash: Try to find a set of Nike VR Pro Blades and have them bent to Tiger lofts by a local builder.

[revanant]

> @Golfingfanatic said:

> > @revanant said:

> > Unrelated--I really, really want to hit those Taylormade P-7TW irons.

> > I've never spent more than $300 on irons--but I'd really love to see what Tiger prefers to hit. Hopefully I don't get tempted.

>

> If you want to save yourself some cash: Try to find a set of Nike VR Pro Blades and have them bent to Tiger lofts by a local builder.

 

It's not bad advice, but are we sure that the VR Pro Blades are a true representation of Tiger's specs?

 

The truth is, I need new irons like I need a hole in the head. My apartment is tiny and can't fit another iron set, and my MP-4s have only seen half a round of play.

 

But I still want to give those Taylormades a swing. :)

[Golfingfanatic]

> @revanant said:

> > @Golfingfanatic said:

> > > @revanant said:

> > > Unrelated--I really, really want to hit those Taylormade P-7TW irons.

> > > I've never spent more than $300 on irons--but I'd really love to see what Tiger prefers to hit. Hopefully I don't get tempted.

> >

> > If you want to save yourself some cash: Try to find a set of Nike VR Pro Blades and have them bent to Tiger lofts by a local builder.

>

> It's not bad advice, but are we sure that the VR Pro Blades are a true representation of Tiger's specs?

>

> The truth is, I need new irons like I need a hole in the head. My apartment is tiny and can't fit another iron set, and my MP-4s have only seen half a round of play.

>

> But I still want to give those Taylormades a swing. :)

 

Haven't seen the TMs in the flesh, but to my eye the muscle, top line and overall shape is very similiar to the Nikes. Possible differences could be the tungsten weights and the grind on the sole. The question is whether those differences are worth more than a 1000 dollars to you. I know I wouldn't pay 2K for the TMs, especially given the fact that they don't even offer his exact lofts.

[MKPAPA]

In regards to Tiger's lofts. If the lofts on the new release are accurate to Tiger's spec sheet, the Vapor Pro irons come at the same exact lofts. Big difference of course would be the fact that the VP's have a cavity blade design and have less offset than the P7TW's

[LowAndLeft32]

I really enjoy this thread. What I love to hear are the stories of people switching from GIs to blades and saw their scores drop.

[Bigmean]

There is only one set of tiger woods speced irons that are worth over $1000........not even a close second.

[Bigmean]

> @LowAndLeft32 said:

> I really enjoy this thread. What I love to hear are the stories of people switching from GIs to blades and saw their scores drop.

 

Despite how impossible this forum makes it sound, I found wrx and started this thread after making a comeback from back surgery and 5 years off. After starting ground up, many rounds with my 962 DCIs (great irons btw, I may get them again eventually if my cb hunt keeps failing) I started hitting my mp14s, and those helped me get back into shape and those were the set I using when I broke 80 again for the first time since the surgery. After that I decided to treat myself to the best blades I could get....i went through a lot of sets, found wrx, and found a blade that makes me not care about my beloved mp14s.

 

There is a feel good blades story for anyone not up to speed on the first 150 pages of this thread :smile:

[wmblake2000]

> @Bigmean said:

 

> So my answer to you is, what clubs do you feel you will be better with? Unfortunately, that answer can change after 9 holes let alone a day hahahaha.

 

That right there is the truth for me. I’m as stable as a leaf in the wind when it comes to irons. Every other club is totally reliable. I never think of changing them. But ... irons...aarrggh. I’d love to have that same sense with them as with the rest of the bag.

 

And... I’m really glad you’re back to playing, posting.

[Kingcat990]

I'm kinda riding the wave Kaaayelll is on with those TEE CBX blades. He may be onto something with those. Worth a look C. Could be the dark horse out there nobody is gaming

[dpb5031]

> @uwhockey14 said:

> I have a set of mizuno MP-67 Cut Muscles arriving today. Too good of a deal to pass up, eventually I'll send them off to get some sort of re-finishing done on them, what can I expect from these clubs?! Obviously its hard to find a bad mizuno Iron but anyone have any experience playing these that wants to provide some feedback?! Thanks

 

I have a single 6 iron that I've practiced with extensively along with an MP33 and 68. The cut in the muscle doesn't do much to help...or hurt... for that matter. No easier to hit or launch than the others and still has great Mizuno feel, even with some of that meat missing from directly behind the sweetspot.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

> @revanant said:

> > @Golfingfanatic said:

> > > @revanant said:

> > > Unrelated--I really, really want to hit those Taylormade P-7TW irons.

> > > I've never spent more than $300 on irons--but I'd really love to see what Tiger prefers to hit. Hopefully I don't get tempted.

> >

> > If you want to save yourself some cash: Try to find a set of Nike VR Pro Blades and have them bent to Tiger lofts by a local builder.

>

> It's not bad advice, but are we sure that the VR Pro Blades are a true representation of Tiger's specs?

>

> The truth is, I need new irons like I need a hole in the head. My apartment is tiny and can't fit another iron set, and my MP-4s have only seen half a round of play.

>

> But I still want to give those Taylormades a swing. :)

 

Same here. I'd like to give them a swing, even though there's no way I'm shelling out that much for a set of irons.

 

Aren't the Nike OG blades pretty much Tiger's Specs? S400 shaft, weak-lofted PW of 49* or 50* and so on down through the set?

[wmblake2000]

> @Kingcat990 said:

> I'm kinda riding the wave Kaaayelll is on with those TEE CBX blades. He may be onto something with those. Worth a look C. Could be the dark horse out there nobody is gaming

 

if I play blades I like both that I have. But I went to precision golf centers here in the South Bay who rent G.C. quads by the hour (great place if any people live in the area). I think the thing I need to look at more closely is the shaft weight. They have a TM fitting cart and I ended up with a very light Fuji atmos in the p790 and they were awesome. Shocked me, to be sure, but then the guy that runs the place also hit them (with a whole lot more speed than me) and he also really liked the dispersion.

 

So... who knows?!

 

Ah, I saw the wrong irons... thought these were blades. Now i see they are cb’s... thx

 

Edit#2. Now I have looked a little closer. Those are interesting! Kaaayell, did you get these! Sort of a ‘hybrid’ looking blade/cb, reminds me a little of Shinagawa blades I never should have sold.

 

[Golfingfanatic]

Just had a look at the specs of the CBX blades. These look really interesting. Constant offset from 3i to PW - you don't see that very often anymore. I'd probably bend them 2° weak and play them from there with very little offset throughout the set.

[bodhi555]

> @No_Catchy_Nickname said:

> > @revanant said:

> > > @Golfingfanatic said:

> > > > @revanant said:

> > > > Unrelated--I really, really want to hit those Taylormade P-7TW irons.

> > > > I've never spent more than $300 on irons--but I'd really love to see what Tiger prefers to hit. Hopefully I don't get tempted.

> > >

> > > If you want to save yourself some cash: Try to find a set of Nike VR Pro Blades and have them bent to Tiger lofts by a local builder.

> >

> > It's not bad advice, but are we sure that the VR Pro Blades are a true representation of Tiger's specs?

> >

> > The truth is, I need new irons like I need a hole in the head. My apartment is tiny and can't fit another iron set, and my MP-4s have only seen half a round of play.

> >

> > But I still want to give those Taylormades a swing. :)

>

> Same here. I'd like to give them a swing, even though there's no way I'm shelling out that much for a set of irons.

>

> Aren't the Nike OG blades pretty much Tiger's Specs? S400 shaft, weak-lofted PW of 49* or 50* and so on down through the set?

 

Yep, the OG Blades came with Tiger's preferred lofts out of the factory, only difference from Tiger spec was the shafts - R300, S400 and X100 as standard - pretty sure Tiger's are hard stepped twice, which may be a bit much for us mere mortals :) They did release a limited edition set with Tiger's full specs including shafts, but they will be $$$$$ now, and somewhat challenging to find a set of.

 

I've got the OG Blades in Tiger lofts and the VR Pros with slightly more typical lofts (47 deg PW) and I think I prefer the slightly stronger lofts of the VR's - I find them much more playable in the wind, and give me a proper gap to my 50/54/58 wedge set up. The long irons of the OG are slightly easier to launch consistently, but there is not a huge amount in it.

 

Little advertised fact that always makes me smile whenever TM are going on about how revolutionary putting a Tungsten plug in a set of MB's is - the Nike OG and VR models all had exactly the same Tungsten plug, which moved the sweetspot away from the heel and into the centre of the face, which I credit with making them so damn easy to transition to after the TM 300 Forged I had previously.

 

I think only the milled grind on the sole is new for the TM models - but is that worth £1800 over the VR Pros I bought last season? Not in the slightest. Plus, he played his best golf with the OG Blades in the mid 00's, and Rory and Fleetwood tore it up with the VR Pros, so I'm quite comfortable with my blade options at the mo :)

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

> @bodhi555 said:

> > @No_Catchy_Nickname said:

> > > @revanant said:

> > > > @Golfingfanatic said:

> > > > > @revanant said:

> > > > > Unrelated--I really, really want to hit those Taylormade P-7TW irons.

> > > > > I've never spent more than $300 on irons--but I'd really love to see what Tiger prefers to hit. Hopefully I don't get tempted.

> > > >

> > > > If you want to save yourself some cash: Try to find a set of Nike VR Pro Blades and have them bent to Tiger lofts by a local builder.

> > >

> > > It's not bad advice, but are we sure that the VR Pro Blades are a true representation of Tiger's specs?

> > >

> > > The truth is, I need new irons like I need a hole in the head. My apartment is tiny and can't fit another iron set, and my MP-4s have only seen half a round of play.

> > >

> > > But I still want to give those Taylormades a swing. :)

> >

> > Same here. I'd like to give them a swing, even though there's no way I'm shelling out that much for a set of irons.

> >

> > Aren't the Nike OG blades pretty much Tiger's Specs? S400 shaft, weak-lofted PW of 49* or 50* and so on down through the set?

>

> Yep, the OG Blades came with Tiger's preferred lofts out of the factory, only difference from Tiger spec was the shafts - R300, S400 and X100 as standard - pretty sure Tiger's are hard stepped twice, which may be a bit much for us mere mortals :) They did release a limited edition set with Tiger's full specs including shafts, but they will be $$$$$ now, and somewhat challenging to find a set of.

>

> I've got the OG Blades in Tiger lofts and the VR Pros with slightly more typical lofts (47 deg PW) and I think I prefer the slightly stronger lofts of the VR's - I find them much more playable in the wind, and give me a proper gap to my 50/54/58 wedge set up. The long irons of the OG are slightly easier to launch consistently, but there is not a huge amount in it.

>

> Little advertised fact that always makes me smile whenever TM are going on about how revolutionary putting a Tungsten plug in a set of MB's is - the Nike OG and VR models all had exactly the same Tungsten plug, which moved the sweetspot away from the heel and into the centre of the face, which I credit with making them so **** easy to transition to after the TM 300 Forged I had previously.

>

> I think only the milled grind on the sole is new for the TM models - but is that worth £1800 over the VR Pros I bought last season? Not in the slightest. Plus, he played his best golf with the OG Blades in the mid 00's, and Rory and Fleetwood tore it up with the VR Pros, so I'm quite comfortable with my blade options at the mo :)

 

I didn't know about the tungsten in the OG blades.

Actually, what I like about the weak PW in the OGs is that I don't need a 50* or 52*, I just go 54* & 60*.

 

So the VRs have a 47*? My fg62s also have a 47* PW, and I toyed with weakening it to 48* or more so I could go to a 52* and 58* wedge set up, giving me more room at the top (or less room at the top and 52* 56* and 60*). However, as it is, the PW is easy to control, and functions well enough as a wedge for me. I'm a big fan of weaker PW lofts.

 

[Nard_S]

I'm leery that the new TW is exact to his spec even though you can order his loft configuration which is weaker. They're saying it is and it might be but the 681 was not, so there's that. I would love to have them though. The Tungsten thing came in with VR Pro. The real big stand out thing with the 681 is the heft and tight weighting from top to bottom, my Mac-Cobra's are like this too and so are my Pro spec Maruman's. It's a subtle difference but hitting from top to bottom of bag is so much more fluid,I don't ever want to change that aspect again.

 

 

[bodhi555]

> @No_Catchy_Nickname said:

> > @bodhi555 said:

> > > @No_Catchy_Nickname said:

> > > > @revanant said:

> > > > > @Golfingfanatic said:

> > > > > > @revanant said:

> > > > > > Unrelated--I really, really want to hit those Taylormade P-7TW irons.

> > > > > > I've never spent more than $300 on irons--but I'd really love to see what Tiger prefers to hit. Hopefully I don't get tempted.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you want to save yourself some cash: Try to find a set of Nike VR Pro Blades and have them bent to Tiger lofts by a local builder.

> > > >

> > > > It's not bad advice, but are we sure that the VR Pro Blades are a true representation of Tiger's specs?

> > > >

> > > > The truth is, I need new irons like I need a hole in the head. My apartment is tiny and can't fit another iron set, and my MP-4s have only seen half a round of play.

> > > >

> > > > But I still want to give those Taylormades a swing. :)

> > >

> > > Same here. I'd like to give them a swing, even though there's no way I'm shelling out that much for a set of irons.

> > >

> > > Aren't the Nike OG blades pretty much Tiger's Specs? S400 shaft, weak-lofted PW of 49* or 50* and so on down through the set?

> >

> > Yep, the OG Blades came with Tiger's preferred lofts out of the factory, only difference from Tiger spec was the shafts - R300, S400 and X100 as standard - pretty sure Tiger's are hard stepped twice, which may be a bit much for us mere mortals :) They did release a limited edition set with Tiger's full specs including shafts, but they will be $$$$$ now, and somewhat challenging to find a set of.

> >

> > I've got the OG Blades in Tiger lofts and the VR Pros with slightly more typical lofts (47 deg PW) and I think I prefer the slightly stronger lofts of the VR's - I find them much more playable in the wind, and give me a proper gap to my 50/54/58 wedge set up. The long irons of the OG are slightly easier to launch consistently, but there is not a huge amount in it.

> >

> > Little advertised fact that always makes me smile whenever TM are going on about how revolutionary putting a Tungsten plug in a set of MB's is - the Nike OG and VR models all had exactly the same Tungsten plug, which moved the sweetspot away from the heel and into the centre of the face, which I credit with making them so **** easy to transition to after the TM 300 Forged I had previously.

> >

> > I think only the milled grind on the sole is new for the TM models - but is that worth £1800 over the VR Pros I bought last season? Not in the slightest. Plus, he played his best golf with the OG Blades in the mid 00's, and Rory and Fleetwood tore it up with the VR Pros, so I'm quite comfortable with my blade options at the mo :)

>

> I didn't know about the tungsten in the OG blades.

> Actually, what I like about the weak PW in the OGs is that I don't need a 50* or 52*, I just go 54* & 60*.

>

> So the VRs have a 47*? My fg62s also have a 47* PW, and I toyed with weakening it to 48* or more so I could go to a 52* and 58* wedge set up, giving me more room at the top (or less room at the top and 52* 56* and 60*). However, as it is, the PW is easy to control, and functions well enough as a wedge for me. I'm a big fan of weaker PW lofts.

>

 

I am 100% certain the OG's had the Tungsten plug also - not quite in the centre of the face as in the TM models, but closer to the toe to move the sweet spot a bit more centrally. Finding any marketing material online for a club released in 2001 is proving difficult, but I am pretty sure the plugs featured even back then.

 

The 49 degree PW did mean that I could drop the 50 degree wedge, however I went the other way and dropped the PW for a 50 degree Engage - full swings were similar, but I had more control round the greens. Plus the Engages have a wonderful head heavy feel, almost as if you just have to drop the club on the ball and it will behave. My VR Pros are an inch longer per club than my OG's, so as a result they are almost exactly a club longer as you go through the bag (OG PW was good for 110, the VR Pro 125, up to 130 if I step on it), so they have fit into my bag perfectly. I think the OG's just had the edge on feel as they were slightly softer - but the VR's work so much better in wind that they are currently in the bag. For instance, last time I played on our 9th, I was faced with 175 yards over water to a raised green. With the OG's I would have been thinking of pulling even a 3 iron, but with the VR's I choked down slightly on a 5 iron, and hit a lovely baby draw to 4 feet away. Where the OG's balloon, I find the VR's tend to cut through the wind far better.

[Nard_S]

> @bodhi555 said:

> I am 100% certain the OG's had the Tungsten plug also - not quite in the centre of the face as in the TM models, but closer to the toe to move the sweet spot a bit more centrally. Finding any marketing material online for a club released in 2001 is proving difficult, but I am pretty sure the plugs featured even back then.

 

I'm basing what I said on a press release for the VR's that I read, they might have done it on the OG's but that's the first I heard them talk about it.

 

 

[revanant]

Cool! I had no idea the Nike irons had a tungsten plug.

 

How do they rank, feel-wise? Super-soft on the Mizuno spectrum, or a bit more firm?

 

Separately, there are a handful of video reviews up. Neither focus a ton on the irons themselves—most I got is that the topline looks nice and thin. :)

 

 

 

 

 

[Z4Z3R]

I'm a weak man.... Pulled the triggger on custom spec'd P7TW 4-pw. Wanted the 3i but thought I'd try to limit the damage by $250

[Bigmean]

 

This is the TW set to have....

[NRJyzr]

Friends don't let friends play Titleist >:)

[Nard_S]

> @NRJyzr said:

> Friends don't let friends play Titleist >:)

Lol, you have no idea.....

[Bigmean]

That’s cool, those aren’t Titleist, they are miuras with fake news stampings ?

[Bigmean]

Speaking Of tiger and Titleist, Nard didn’t you have the 681s? I seem to recall you stealing a set in auction a while ago, or someone here?

[Bigmean]

More Titleist JDM kryptonite for NR.....

 

 

[bodhi555]

> @revanant said:

> Cool! I had no idea the Nike irons had a tungsten plug.

>

> How do they rank, feel-wise? Super-soft on the Mizuno spectrum, or a bit more firm?

>

> Separately, there are a handful of video reviews up. Neither focus a ton on the irons themselves—most I got is that the topline looks nice and thin. :)

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The bulk of the retail Nike blades were forged by Endo in Thailand, so whilst not as buttery as a Mizuno, they are definitely a softer forging - I found them closer to Hogan or even Vega if I'm honest. I must admit at this stage I've only really got in depth experience of Nike blades, the others have been a quick demo or trying out a friend's. I liked the feel enough to keep the first set in the bag for 13 years, so can't have been too bad :wink:

 

Just back from a lesson, where my coach was showing me the full Fleetwood sawn off follow through to go with the VR Pros, and it's definitely I can see myself using more often. It's a great drill to encourage me to turn through it properly, and the resulting ball flight is to die for. Low, penetrating and stops dead. The wind at the range was ugly (into and off the left) but it was incredible how the ball held its line when a full shot was getting blown around.