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[Double Mocha Man]

1 hour ago, scotee said:

 

Arrived!  But alas, I am relegated to sitting indoors stroking my Honmas (they are very pretty) dreaming of a day I can stroke a ProV1 (or even a Kirkland) with the Homnas.

 

Beautiful!  Is there not an open range with mats or a simulator in Clarkston?  Can you trek to Pullman or Spokane?

[Double Mocha Man]

43 minutes ago, touch said:

 

 

Congrats on receiving your new irons .

Scottee, did you notice that the excellent multi material (steel fiber wound combined with graphite) Vizard shafts in the Honma's were progressively weighted? I like a set that has that feature. Rather than waiting until the Washington weather gives you a halfway decent day  to play your new irons I say you fly down to Scottsdale and break them in while playing with the Engineer. You get to use your new irons and also demo a SLED. Of course we all here in the Grille would expect a newsy post after you returned home from the desert. 

 

 

 

 

 

That sounds like a great idea!  Get those suckers into action right away...  and the SLED, Soloman willing, would be a bonus.

[Double Mocha Man]

2 hours ago, scotee said:

 

Arrived!  But alas, I am relegated to sitting indoors stroking my Honmas (they are very pretty) dreaming of a day I can stroke a ProV1 (or even a Kirkland) with the Homnas.

 

I love that the box is relegated to the frigid outdoors... while the irons get the warm, cozy leather couch treatment.

Edited December 2, 2022 by Double Mocha Man

[Soloman1]

Come on down, @scotee. It’s in the 60’s (F) now, but we still manage.

 

Just don’t get mad…

 

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/mississippi-golfer-bites-off-mans-nose-in-argument-over-game-police-say

 

 

[BIG STU]

2 hours ago, touch said:

 

 

Congrats on receiving your new irons .

Scottee, did you notice that the excellent multi material (steel fiber wound combined with graphite) Vizard shafts in the Honma's were progressively weighted? I like a set that has that feature. Rather than waiting until the Washington weather gives you a halfway decent day  to play your new irons I say you fly down to Scottsdale and break them in while playing with the Engineer. You get to use your new irons and also demo a SLED. Of course we all here in the Grille would expect a newsy post after you returned home from the desert. 

 

 

 

 

Will tell you guys something I bet you did not know Honma makes their own graphite shafts in their own factory to their own tight standards. I learned this from my bud the Miura dealer a few years back. I had that new Honma G1-X driver and we were talking about puring the shaft. He told me it was not necessary that those shafts were dead on from the factory. He showed me and he was correct. The only reason I am not playing that driver now is because something happened to it as in going dead

Now I am going to blame this on you 4 horsemen--- I played today and was not getting a lot out of the Macs have not for 2 weeks. I figured it was the wet and weather. I decided WTF? went home and got my KZG one piece forged Teardrop CBs out. I had not had them out in a while. Now they are 1 piece Kyoei forged with fitted Rifle 5.5 shafts in them. As far as I remember they hit sweet. LOL I am going to blame this on LP--- They were already sitting in one of my Titleist mini staff bags with balls gloves and tees. WTF ? again I just threw all my metal woods in plus my Vokeys and my Rusty Scotty. Oh I did grab my rangefinder too. Figured I would try them in the shootout tomorrow. And no they are not jacked just stock 2* stronger than the Macs. I also have another set of Kyoei forged KZGs they are what I call progressive CBs. I have never hit those and not sure about the shafts will try them on the range next week and see. If I hit them ok I will play until at least spring But I blame the whole mess on LP mini staff and all

[touch]

Doing research on these irons I did learn Stu that all Honma's graphite shafts were made in house. That company sweats the details and has a high degree of quality control. It shows. You can even see it in the paint and lettering used on the shaft. The genuine Honma made shafts was just one more feature that made me snag a set and give them a try.

Edited December 3, 2022 by touch

[touch]

Friday Night First Date Funnies

 

* Heads-up in advance one is R rated. 😉

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2022 by touch

[scotee]

2 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

I love that the box is relegated to the frigid outdoors... while the irons get the warm, cozy leather couch treatment.

 

No, I did not hear the delivery guy and I looked out and saw my package outside just like that and took a picture before I brought it in. I did save the two nice boxes for another old set. They packaged it very nicely with 2 boxes, lots of bubble wrap and shrink wrap on the heads and grips. Just like Christmas morning opening and unwrapping it all.

[Double Mocha Man]

1 minute ago, scotee said:

 

No, I did not hear the delivery guy and I looked out and saw my package outside just like that and took a picture before I brought it in. I did save the two nice boxes for another old set. They packaged it very nicely with 2 boxes, lots of bubble wrap and shrink wrap on the heads and grips. Just like Christmas morning opening and unwrapping it all.

 

Just like unwrapping the Red Rider BB gun.

 

So which shafts do you each of you Honma Hombres have?

[scotee]

1 hour ago, Soloman1 said:

Come on down, @scotee. It’s in the 60’s (F) now, but we still manage.

 

Just don’t get mad…

 

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/mississippi-golfer-bites-off-mans-nose-in-argument-over-game-police-say

 

 

 

Thank you Solo. If I could find someone to watch my dad I would do it.

Wow! I think a lawyer just got himself Tesla and a whole lot more.

 

[scotee]

16 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Just like unwrapping the Red Rider BB gun.

 

So which shafts do you each of you Honma Hombres have?

 

I had this discussion with Rad. I was torn and went back and forth but ended up with the graphite stiff. They package them in 4-10 in stiff and 5-11 in regular. All the regulars were sold out at the good price. I have never hit hybrids very well and still hit my 4 iron well and thought I would like that.  I still carry the MP 53 7 iron 150+ with a light weight steel shaft. GS 95 S 300. This is very unlike me to buy before I try but the price was very good. I did find another 5-11 set in regular for $200 more. If I hate these I can sell and buy again like a real club ho.  

[touch]

On 12/2/2022 at 7:27 PM, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Just like unwrapping the Red Rider BB gun.

 

So which shafts do you each of you Honma Hombres have?

 

Stock R flex for me and I believe they play a touch on the weak side say compared to a Mitsubishi Tensei Red or similar shaft.  I have always enjoyed Recoils and they sort of have that kind of smooth feel but with a wee higher kick point. You can tell they have been constructed similarly to MMT's and Steel Fibers as they have that added strength and offer more consistency. 

Remember I have a slow iron swing speed and I possess a smooth tempo (ask Rad) 75 mph is max for me. I should be playing a 60- 65 gram shaft in my irons but I just take one more club with my Honmas and they get the job done real well with magical feel at impact.  The stock shafts are so stable and consistent that I couldn't even think of dancing with another girl. 

 

 

Here is a photo from my first range session with them on October 29, 2021. ⚡

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by touch

[touch]

 

 

 

scotee

 

Thank you    If I could find someone to watch my dad I would do it.

 

 

 

 

Family first of course L Scott. Glad to hear that were it not for taking care of dad it would have happened. 👍

 

Still expecting to collect my $25 suggestion fee from somebody.    😁

 

Edited December 3, 2022 by touch

[Double Mocha Man]

1 minute ago, touch said:

 

Stock R flex for me and I believe they play a touch on the weak side say compared to a Mitsubishi Tensei Red or similar shaft.  I have always enjoyed Recoils and they sort of have that kind of smooth feel but with a wee higher kick point. You can tell they have been constructed similarly to MMT's and Steel Fibers as they have that added strength and offer more consistency. 

Remember I have a slow iron swing speed and I possess a smooth tempo (ask Rad) 75 mph is max for me. I should be playing a 60- 65 gram shaft in my irons but I just take one more club with my Honmas and they get the job done real well with magical feel at impact.  The stock shafts are so stable and consistent I couldn't even think of dancing with another girl. 

 

I bought my set as a gift to myself for my milestone 60th birthday. 

Here is a photo from my first range session with them on October 29, 2021. 

After two buckets hit off of nice green turf I knew they would be in my bag for a few seasons. ⚡

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks.  So R with the graphite shaft that Honma makes.  Just trying to get a quorum on the shaft you 4 honbres are using.  I'm still trying to wrap my golfing brain around those very wide soles.  My XR Pros are very narrow, clip the ball nicely.

[touch]

1 hour ago, scotee said:

 

I had this discussion with Rad. I was torn and went back and forth but ended up with the graphite stiff. They package them in 4-10 in stiff and 5-11 in regular. All the regulars were sold out at the good price. I have never hit hybrids very well and still hit my 4 iron well and thought I would like that.  I still carry the MP 53 7 iron 150+ with a light weight steel shaft. GS 95 S 300. This is very unlike me to buy before I try but the price was very good. I did find another 5-11 set in regular for $200 more. If I hate these I can sell and buy again like a real club ho.  

 

That was no great leap of faith my Pacific NW Grille brother, and I'm not buying it for one minute.  😅 

You sir just caved to my salesmanship that was combined with Conrad's fine field reporting. 😄

 

In a few months you too will be singing the praise of having these irons in your bag.    💥

 

Thank me now.  ⚡

Edited December 3, 2022 by touch

[Double Mocha Man]

22 minutes ago, scotee said:

If I hate these I can sell and buy again like a real club ho.  

 

Scotee, thanks for your input.  I've always had good luck on eBay buying and selling clubs... because I don't need the money right away I'll post the clubs for more than I paid for them.  It usually works.  

 

I once bought a set of Titleist AP2 irons.  The guy who sold them was a CFO for an insurance company in San Antonio, and a state amateur champion.  Only after the sale did he tell me he was once invited to play Augusta National and those were the clubs that went around that historic layout.

 

Two years later I sold them with the mention of their personal history, also stating that it didn't make them any better, but was a great story.  I marked them up 10% over what I paid for them... they went quick.

[touch]

2 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Thanks.  So R with the graphite shaft that Honma makes.  Just trying to get a quorum on the shaft you 4 honbres are using.  I'm still trying to wrap my golfing brain around those very wide soles.  My XR Pros are very narrow, clip the ball nicely.

 

DMM if you have not read it yet please read this WRX review thread about these irons. That was the first argument I had  that was the soles were far too generous in width. Playing my set early on I found out this was a non an issue for me and many other's stated this same fact. So I pulled the trigger on a set. It is really no issue DMM,  the turf interaction is way solid. The shortish blade length and the little offset amount frames the ball well.

 

GO FOR IT  DMM  ! and don't be sorry , because before too very long they will be unobtainable.

 

I'll once again I say that these Honma's hit the ultimate bullseye for the mid handicapper market.

 

And with 40+ years in the game this old boy knows something about about golf equipment. 💥  😉 ⛳

 

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2022 by touch

[Double Mocha Man]

18 minutes ago, touch said:

... the soles were far too generous in width.

 

https://golf.com/gear/wide-sole-irons-arent-just-for-higher-handicap-golfers/

[braincramp52]

1 hour ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Just like unwrapping the Red Rider BB gun.

 

So which shafts do you each of you Honma Hombres have?

Regular flex for me and they seem to fit me well. 

[Double Mocha Man]

19 minutes ago, braincramp52 said:

Regular flex for me and they seem to fit me well. 

 

Steel or graphite?

[Conrad1953]

 

 

5 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

https://golf.com/gear/wide-sole-irons-arent-just-for-higher-handicap-golfers/

 

These Honma irons have leading edge relief that I measured at 1/4" width from the leading

edge to the slight V where the relief stops. These irons will work for a wide variety of golfers

and a wide range of attack angles I would think.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Conrad1953]

I have the R flex Honma graphite shafts. They work perfectly for me as I like a higher ball flight.

I am on the cusp with a 7 iron swing speed average of 81 mph when last measured. I can play

a stiff; I just mainly get a lower ball flight and slightly better dispersion. Being that my swing 

speed is on the decline an R flex is probably my best option anyway, looking forward.

 

I was playing stiff in my driver and FWs, etc. but now have gone to R flex in everything. 

[Double Mocha Man]

10 minutes ago, Conrad1953 said:

I have the R flex Honma graphite shafts. They work perfectly for me as I like a higher ball flight.

I am on the cusp with a 7 iron swing speed average of 81 mph when last measured. I can play

a stiff; I just mainly get a lower ball flight and slightly better dispersion. Being that my swing 

speed is on the decline an R flex is probably my best option anyway, looking forward.

 

I was playing stiff in my driver and FWs, etc. but now have gone to R flex in everything. 

 

Thank you.

[touch]

On 8/21/2022 at 8:38 PM, Double Mocha Man said:

It's been a calm and lazy Sunday, with a little range time this morning after coffee.  I hit them well in advance of tomorrow's 18 holes.  I had the patience to make the labor-intensive seafood skewers tonight, grilled. Shrimp, scallops, green peppers, tomatoes, onions, mushrooms. After grilling I spread them over a dollop of angel hair pasta. A little olive oil with crushed garlic and Parmigiano-Reggiano over the top. This only happens maybe three times a summer. Just finished, I'm a fat cat chillin' on the Mexican patio.

 

 

 

 

With these kinds of shared photos I knew back in mid August I was a newbie in the right group. ⭐

Edited December 3, 2022 by touch

[miamistomp]

 

Edited December 3, 2022 by miamistomp

[braincramp52]

10 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Steel or graphite?

I've got the graphite Vizard

Edited December 3, 2022 by braincramp52

[miamistomp]

[Conrad1953]

3 minutes ago, miamistomp said:

 

The beer that made Milwaukee famous!😀

[BIG STU]

2 hours ago, miamistomp said:

OHH and I see a Bock one too---- Used to love PBR Bock

[BIG STU]

5 hours ago, touch said:

 

Stock R flex for me and I believe they play a touch on the weak side say compared to a Mitsubishi Tensei Red or similar shaft.  I have always enjoyed Recoils and they sort of have that kind of smooth feel but with a wee higher kick point. You can tell they have been constructed similarly to MMT's and Steel Fibers as they have that added strength and offer more consistency. 

Remember I have a slow iron swing speed and I possess a smooth tempo (ask Rad) 75 mph is max for me. I should be playing a 60- 65 gram shaft in my irons but I just take one more club with my Honmas and they get the job done real well with magical feel at impact.  The stock shafts are so stable and consistent that I couldn't even think of dancing with another girl. 

 

 

Here is a photo from my first range session with them on October 29, 2021. ⚡

 

 

 

 

The consistency of the shafts are due to Honma's tight tolerances on their in house made graphite shafts. I have seen the numbers on 2 different sets and I will tell you the numbers are tight right out of the box