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Bob Toski golf. Had a set of cavity back irons....not so bad. Had the 3W .....terrible.

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> @Strategery said:

> Daiwa. E.g. Advisor and Hi-Trac irons.

 

Daiwa were excellent clubs.... and still are.

 

For those who stumble on to this thread - Daiwa golf is now known as OnOff since about 2009.

Info here

https://onoff.globeride.co.jp/global/about/brand/index.html

 

Some excellent Japanese golf brand names have made bizarre decisions to jettision a well known name - I'll post a pic of some recent luvverly forged OnOff irons to show you how they still are wonderful. The most recent ridonculous move was Bridgestone deciding to do away with the hugely respected and excellent golf club brand 'Tourstage' to rebrand as wholly Bridgestone golf... and then after doing that and alienating their Asian fans you still can't find 'Bridgestone' irons (or woods) in any major (or minor) mainstream retailer in the States... so why bother? (My cycnical brain thinks they assume the US consumer thinks Bridgestone is a 'Merricun company so that'll be the just the ticket to boost sales... ;) )

 

 

OnOff - Kuro irons are the ones to drool over

![](http://image.rakuten.co.jp/ezaki-g/cabinet/onoff/kuro-ir-02.jpg "")

 

 

 

 

ps I'd not been aware that 7-Eleven has been Japanese owned since 1990 - 7-11 is popular here and everywhere here in Thailand too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Eleven

"In October 1990, the heavily indebted Southland Corp. filed a pre-packaged Chapter 11 bankruptcy in order to transfer control of 70% of the company to Japanese affiliate Ito-Yokado.[20]"

 

Good luck finding any reference to Japan in 7-11's US corporate website ;-)

https://corp.7-eleven.com/corp/about

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Glad to see Wilson Golf make a resurgence. Wilson Staff and MacGregor Tourney were the top brands from the 60's through the 70's.

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Driver: Callaway Epic Flash 10.5 w/ Project X Evenflow Green 55 R shaft Fairway woods: Callaway Epic Flash 5 and 7 wood Hybrids: Callaway Big Bertha 4i and 5i Irons: Srixon ZX5 6-AW, Wedges: Cleveland RTX Zipcore 54 and 58 degree Putter: mySpider X

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> @txgolfer45 said:

> Glad to see Wilson Golf make a resurgence. Wilson Staff and MacGregor Tourney were the top brands from the 60's through the 70's.

 

Wilson staff make some outstanding irons, seem to be cheaper too but they are fine clubs still. Lynx are making a god comeback in the uk, making some very good irons at a lower price

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Anyone remember Anvil and their Par Saver? One of Gary Players many attempts to crack the club market, its one of the few clubs that came with an instructional video on how to use it.

 

Pretty sure I still have one back at my parents house. Worth trying? Or completely outclassed by a modern wedge?

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Henrik - Titleist 917 F3 15 deg, Rogue Max 75x, B2 Setting

The Walking Stick - Titleist 818 H2 19 deg, Rogue Max 85x, B2 Setting

The Interloper - TaylorMade P770 3 iron, S400 Tour Issue, +0.5inch +1 deg loft

The Blades - Nike VR Pro 4 - AW, S400 Tour Issue, +0.5 inch

The Sand Iron - TaylorMade MG2 TW-12 Grind, 56 degree, S400 Tour Issue

The Flopper - TaylorMade MG2 TW-11 Grind, 60 Degree, S400 Tour Issue

The Putter - Nike Method 003 from The Oven

 

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Liquid Metal looked cool, not a fan of its feel or performance.

Sonartec. JP liked their steel fairways a great deal.

Taylormade M5 Tour 10.5* 

Taylormade 300 Series 15*

Taylormade Sim2 Max 18*

Titleist 818H2  21*

Titleist 718 TMB 4 24*

Titleist 718 AP2  5-PW

Mizuno T20  54*   58*

Taylormade Spider GT  #3

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Loomis shafts, they were the first graphite in a driver I really liked, heavier than others but with "feel". They kept breaking just above the hosel though....not sure what wassup with that

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Callaway X Forged CB 21' 4-PW Modus 120

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> @MountainGoat said:

> So, what’s the common feature that links all of these failures?

Great question, I'm not sure why brands like wilson, Hogan, and MacGregor dropped off the map so sharply

 

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Those copper bracelets that were supposed to increase circulation and prevent injury.....lol

TM Stealth Plus 10.5 Ventus TR Velocore Red 5

Ping G425 Max 5 FW 17.5 Ventus Velocore Red 7

Srixon ZX MKII 3UT MMT 95

Callaway X Forged CB 21' 4-PW Modus 120

Yururi Tataki 52.5, 56.5 and 60.5 DG S200
Ping Anser 2
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Tommy Armour....remember when the 845 irons were all the rage? Then I think they came out with some humongous all titanium model....lol

TM Stealth Plus 10.5 Ventus TR Velocore Red 5

Ping G425 Max 5 FW 17.5 Ventus Velocore Red 7

Srixon ZX MKII 3UT MMT 95

Callaway X Forged CB 21' 4-PW Modus 120

Yururi Tataki 52.5, 56.5 and 60.5 DG S200
Ping Anser 2
MCC +4 Grips
Kirkland Performance+ Ball

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Founders club made some great clubs. Wonderful forged blades.

I think many of these companies just missed on new technology. They had clubmakers not so much club techs. They rested on the players profiles and the GI advancements they attempted normally were a whiff. I’m looking at a lot of these ...they never made a good wood or one that gained serious momentum when drivers went bigger and badder they got lapped.

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Honma TR21X 5-11 VIZARD IBWF 100

HighToe MG3 54* VIZARD IB 120

HighToe MG3 58*/13 VIZARD IB 120

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I think Wilson failed due to their inability to figure out how to design and make game improvement cavity back irons and the competition quickly took over their market share when they could only sell their blades.

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> @JD3 said:

> Penley shafts too, had a good following

 

> @JD3 said:

> Penley shafts too, had a good following

 

Have a STEALTH 70 in my driver, Tour Light in a hybrid and a Penley Light in a Zebra 7 wood.

 

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KE4 5 wood 17* 43”
Maltby MXU 23* 
Maltby Tricept TU 5 Iron
Wilson Pi5 6-PW
Wilson JP 55* SW
Ram Watson Troon Grind 58
Ray Cook M2 Mallet

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I don't remember the name, not even enough details to try and do a search, but years ago I remember an infomercial kind of thing selling a driver from a guy touted as former chief engineer from taylormade (or one of the other major brands). Probably around time of skinny headed fairway w/ alpha maraging whatever, when they thought these one-off clubs built around one guys personal brand would take off. Be interested if anyone can remember that one.

TM Stealth Plus 10.5 Ventus TR Velocore Red 5

Ping G425 Max 5 FW 17.5 Ventus Velocore Red 7

Srixon ZX MKII 3UT MMT 95

Callaway X Forged CB 21' 4-PW Modus 120

Yururi Tataki 52.5, 56.5 and 60.5 DG S200
Ping Anser 2
MCC +4 Grips
Kirkland Performance+ Ball

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> @JD3 said:

> I don't remember the name, not even enough details to try and do a search, but years ago I remember an infomercial kind of thing selling a driver from a guy touted as former chief engineer from taylormade (or one of the other major brands). Probably around time of skinny headed fairway w/ alpha maraging whatever, when they thought these one-off clubs built around one guys personal brand would take off. Be interested if anyone can remember that one.

 

Bobby Jones? The fairway woods? Jesse Ortiz from Orlimar started those. Not sure if that’s who you were thinking of.

Cobra Aero LS 9 Fuji Evo IV 569 X

Honma TR21 15* VIZARD FP7 Stiff

Honma TR21 HY 18* VIZARD UT 7

Honma TR21 HY 21* VIZARD UT 8

Honma TR21X 5-11 VIZARD IBWF 100

HighToe MG3 54* VIZARD IB 120

HighToe MG3 58*/13 VIZARD IB 120

MackMade custom Slide MMT putter                         

 

 

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> > @JD3 said:

> > I don't remember the name, not even enough details to try and do a search, but years ago I remember an infomercial kind of thing selling a driver from a guy touted as former chief engineer from taylormade (or one of the other major brands). Probably around time of skinny headed fairway w/ alpha maraging whatever, when they thought these one-off clubs built around one guys personal brand would take off. Be interested if anyone can remember that one.

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> Bobby Jones? The fairway woods? Jesse Ortiz from Orlimar started those. Not sure if that’s who you were thinking of.

 

No it was a different guy. But I think trying to mimic ortiz' success. Guy in the seemed kind of chunky, balding, may have had a gotee

TM Stealth Plus 10.5 Ventus TR Velocore Red 5

Ping G425 Max 5 FW 17.5 Ventus Velocore Red 7

Srixon ZX MKII 3UT MMT 95

Callaway X Forged CB 21' 4-PW Modus 120

Yururi Tataki 52.5, 56.5 and 60.5 DG S200
Ping Anser 2
MCC +4 Grips
Kirkland Performance+ Ball

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Controller driving iron --

Other than odd groove pattern, looks pretty much like modern driving irons

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202704838605

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Ping G425 Max 5 FW 17.5 Ventus Velocore Red 7

Srixon ZX MKII 3UT MMT 95

Callaway X Forged CB 21' 4-PW Modus 120

Yururi Tataki 52.5, 56.5 and 60.5 DG S200
Ping Anser 2
MCC +4 Grips
Kirkland Performance+ Ball

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